: ?? Best Radar Detector ???



Mr.MPH
08-31-11, 12:44 AM
"A Swiss Army knife is a great tool. But exploring each of its 17 functions while driving is probably not a good idea. The same can be said for a badly-designed radar detector with fussy controls."


ANY real world pro's or cons??

I would like to see what you guys are using????:cop:

translux
08-31-11, 12:57 AM
Valentine One-I have tried most of them and none come close IMHO.
I have one that 15 years old that I use as a backup and another that is maybe 6 years old.
Should probably get them both updated.
Also used to have a laser Blinder but have not installed anything like this on the V.

e6t
08-31-11, 01:03 AM
Passport 8500ix.

Bought a V1 and returned it. The passport seems to work best for me where I live. WEnt on a road trip last month and this thing wasn't even fair. It picked up LEOs from so far away I thought it was falling.

Junkie414
08-31-11, 01:29 AM
I had a V1, trying out an Passport 9500ix or something this time around. Its all getting installed tomorrow so I can give you some feedback

LitiGATOR
08-31-11, 01:31 AM
For radar, I don't think you can do better than the Valentine-1. It almost pays for itself every day!

thebigjimsho
08-31-11, 01:58 AM
V1. Hands down. Have had multiple V1s for years. Got my first one in Nov of '94...

GMX322V S/C
08-31-11, 02:20 AM
Custom installed Bel STi-R NA. I've owned a V1 and Escort 8500 in the past, but the STi-R is in a league of its own.

dcc8203
08-31-11, 07:44 AM
a V1 with the Blendmount, FTW.

khoeysr
08-31-11, 09:24 AM
I have three that I use, a Valentine 1, a Passport 9500ix and Beltronics GX65. I should mention that the Passport and the Beltronics are essentially the same detector. I rotate them over time.

All three are excellent. The V1 has the directional indicators. The other two have GPS integrated and can display vehicle speed and can "learn" trouble spots.

As to which is the best, I think I definitely have it in this group, but can't offer my opinion as to which it is. All are excellent.

Since I have owned a V (July 2009) I have been lucky enough to not have been stopped for speeding.

ptevo03
08-31-11, 09:39 AM
I have the escort 9500ix and love it.

dqw1
08-31-11, 09:54 AM
Valentine 1!

keithsm2
08-31-11, 10:01 AM
I have the two different escorts....9500xi and 9500x(?) .... They are great.....one problem....I have it mounted to the mirror....and anytime the nav screen is up and in the daylight brightness.....it sets off the Laser detection...... work around..is to either unplug detector....switch nav to night time brightness....or disable laser detection......

Anyone else see this?? Ive been on Escorts forums for another fix....but no word .

Nutz
08-31-11, 10:12 AM
I own 2 Valentine 1 units, I love one, I hate the other. Do not buy a Valentine 1 newer than 2008 if you live near a major city with traffic counting devices (small solar panels visible on top of street lights). The detector will go off non-stop every 30 seconds and drive you crazy. They are dealing with this now but offer NO refunds for this problem. The temporary fix is to put a delay in the programming. I absolutely LOVE my older one that was purchased on E-Bay.


Here's a vid of a comparison of BOTH old and new showing the false LEO issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQX-AvgQXkc

Cub Cadet
08-31-11, 10:33 AM
Passport 8500ix.

Bought a V1 and returned it. The passport seems to work best for me where I live. WEnt on a road trip last month and this thing wasn't even fair. It picked up LEOs from so far away I thought it was falling.

I second this one... I had a V1 and also returned it to get the Escort Passport. The Passport is a phenomenal radar detector that worked well, had a nice display and also looked nice. One thing I hated about the V1 was its antiquated looks... it looked like an original fuzz buster.
79720

sykoV
08-31-11, 10:41 AM
Passport QI45 mounts in the grill.

JFJr
08-31-11, 11:13 AM
I read the comparisons and decided to stay away from the V1 because of too many false alerts and because it hasn't been significantly updated. I've been using the Passport 9500ix for months and can recommend it without reservation. I particularly like its GPS technology, false target suppression, sensitivity that increases with vehicle speed, the long range, the ability to update it regularly over the internet and the smart cord that allows muting from the connector without having to reach for the detector. I considered the custom installed version, too, but was afraid of interfering with cool air flow to the LSA. :lildevil:

Jud

cdog533
08-31-11, 01:44 PM
V1's are great, but if you live in a metro area your need to really tame them down with some K-band automuting. They false A LOT, probably 100:1 versus the 9500ix.

To summarize:

Metro area - Passport 9500ix
HIghways - V1

cruiser68
08-31-11, 01:54 PM
a V1 with the Blendmount, FTW.

+1 A little sensitive but has saved me MANY times.

Mr. P.
08-31-11, 02:46 PM
Custom installed Bel STi-R NA. I've owned a V1 and Escort 8500 in the past, but the STi-R is in a league of its own.
Bel STi-Driver has never let me down in 3-years of service; IMO its performance is better than the V1 (but not by much) and definitely better in my experience with false alerts. The STi-driver Ka band performance is so good I have no fear driving 25-over on the freeway, it has never ever failed with Ka-band. The only thing I fear is laser - whacha gonna do?!

RE Passport 9500 - I like the idea of GPS integration, but the antenna on this unit is the same as the old Bel Vector; to compare my Vector 990 used to give me a few seconds alert for Ka band, the STi-driver gives 20+ seconds. If they integrated GPS with the better STi antenna it would be badass... oh well.

Mr. P. :)

thebigjimsho
08-31-11, 02:59 PM
I second this one... I had a V1 and also returned it to get the Escort Passport. The Passport is a phenomenal radar detector that worked well, had a nice display and also looked nice. One thing I hated about the V1 was its antiquated looks... it looked like an original fuzz buster.
79720You sound like the turds at Motor Trend(I believe) that docked it major points on how it looked. And this was about 10+ years ago when NOTHING could come close. They gave aesthetics something like a 30% share of the score and ranked the V1 second overall to a clearly inferior piece.

The V1 is rugged, dark and purpose built. If you care that much on how a revenue saving device looks, go buy yourself a different detector and put it in a pretty little Beetle...

thebigjimsho
08-31-11, 03:01 PM
I'm kidding, of course. But as for the V1, some people may prefer something else, but the V1 is always respected and acknowledged as a 1st class piece. Except for the occasional contrarian and fashion guru.

JFJr
08-31-11, 05:17 PM
Don't get cocky, guys. An instant-on trap will nail you every time if no one has gone through a minute or so before you, to trigger the gun. Laser is even worse. But you amateur EWO's with other (legal) countermeasures, hmm ...

sapugh
08-31-11, 06:02 PM
I went from a Valentine in my old car to a Passport 9500CI with Laser shifters in my 2011 V Coupe. They hid the displays in the ashtray with the power switch and USB ports under the steering column. I have a 9500ix in my wife's Lexus and really liked some of the features. Coming from a Valentine the BEST feature is AutoNoX. I HATE the damn thing going off for X Band. Also the memory for location based radars like speed limit signs in my neighborhood that constantly broadcast. The 9500 will save the location and frequency and NOT go off if you tell it to memorize the location.

Actual detecter is behind the front Grill with a pair of laser shifters and another laser shifter mounted to the rear license plate

Luna.
08-31-11, 08:55 PM
Fair to say that you can't go wrong with either the V1 or the Passport 9500CI?

I need to get one, so this is a good thread for me as well.

Andy@A&ACorvette
08-31-11, 10:38 PM
I have V1s in my other cars and love them. I have not installed one in my V yet, so I am open to other suggestions.
And what the heck is a "laser shifter" ?

Phil Raymond
08-31-11, 10:49 PM
Fair to say that you can't go wrong with either the V1 or the Passport 9500CI?

I need to get one, so this is a good thread for me as well.

Correct. If you are looking for a clean winner it doesn't exist...however, both of these detectors (and the GX65) are kick ass detectors. But they won't save you on POP (instant on radar) and only alert you that a cop just pinged your car with laser. What I found in my research is that the V1 has an issue with false alarms (urban driving) but the directional signals are very helpful (I agree), and the Passport based devices are very sensitive but have good ability to reduce false alarms (GPS, learning, etc.). All of them (yes, all of them) will detect Ka band from a long distance.

Pick your poison..

Prof
09-01-11, 01:02 AM
:stirpot:Passport 8500 red in truck. Passport 8500 blue in the CTS V. Wife has Passport 9500 in her asphalt ripping Prius...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cruiser68
09-01-11, 01:09 AM
asphalt ripping Prius...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Never thought I would ever see those 3 words together :)

rgp6373
09-01-11, 01:26 AM
Passport ci with laser shifter , works great plus because it is installed looks way cleaner than a detector stuck on your windshield . Yes the laser shifters work, i have tested it with a friend of mine who is a cop . you just bought a $60000 car buy the detector that matches . i will try to post a pic of my install later

sapugh
09-01-11, 01:58 AM
They jam laser detectors, There are receivers/emitters in the front and back of the car. When hit they cause the cops gun to error out.

Prof
09-01-11, 07:34 AM
Never thought I would ever see those 3 words together :)

My students occasionally call me over dramatic...and I do tend to exaggerate...occasionally.

JFJr
09-01-11, 09:02 AM
Passport ci with laser shifter , works great plus because it is installed looks way cleaner than a detector stuck on your windshield . Yes the laser shifters work, i have tested it with a friend of mine who is a cop . you just bought a $60000 car buy the detector that matches . i will try to post a pic of my install laterWhich of the recommended installers did yours? Any issues with the installation?

Wannago
09-01-11, 10:41 AM
The Beltronics STi-R Plus is the undisputed king of RDs, and many feel it is the best RD ever made. Check out http://www.radardetectorforum.org

As for laser jammers, the Laser Intereceptor brand has been proven time and time again to be the best on the market.

I'm not just saying that because I own both...I could have bought whatever make / model I wanted, and after months of research, there was no doubt.

Here's a vid from a recent road trip of an encounter with constant on Ka band (Sti-R +) and a laser trap at the same time (Laser Interceptor). The cop wasn't too bright....picked a decent spot in the middle of nowhere, where a divided highway speed was reduced from 110 km/h to 80 km/h for a distance of 37 kms. As this was a Sunday and there were no crews working, obviously people would be inclined to ignore the speed reduction. Bozo cop parks his cruiser and pulls out the Lidar gun, but leaves his radar on! As you can see, I picked the radar up a long way in advance and was only doing about 5 over when he hit me with the laser (the siren sound you hear near the end). I quickly made sure to slow down to the PSL and then turned off the jammer (always practice responsible jamming kiddies!).

Pardon the lame music....XM 80's on 8...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmR4BnCpKe8

NROTIK
09-01-11, 10:52 AM
A badge!!!

thebigjimsho
09-01-11, 11:06 AM
"undisputed king of RD"

lulz...

Wannago
09-01-11, 12:28 PM
"undisputed king of RD"

lulz...

Huh? You know otherwise? Please...do tell....the numerous forums I visit re. RDs all seem to say the same thing, so I'm dying to learn what you know that all the experts don't.

lulz


http://www.radardetector.org/reviews/bel-sti-r-plus-radar-detector-review/


Now for you Road Warriors who need the best radar detection and laser protection money can buy.

We have chosen the Beltronics STi R Plus to be our radar detector of choice in our Mercedes C300 Sports Sedan.

Why you may ask?

Well we choose the Bel STi R Plus as it is the very best remote mounted radar detection system on the market today, and combined it with the Laser Interceptor laser jamming system, which is my #1, pick for lidar protection....

Oh I see...you're a V1 zombie...makes perfect sense now...

Wannago
09-01-11, 12:59 PM
A badge!!!

Problem NROTIK? OP asked a legitimate question as to what is the best radar detector. I responded, posting my opinion, as unlike others around here, this is something I know about. Should I not be able to respond and actually provide some real-world proof, trying to help others out...or would it be better for me to hide behind the anonymity of the internet and try to be an amusing e-comedian, thus detracting from the OP's thread? Got something useful to say, then speak up...if not, well you know the rest.....

thebigjimsho
09-01-11, 02:47 PM
Huh? You know otherwise? Please...do tell....the numerous forums I visit re. RDs all seem to say the same thing, so I'm dying to learn what you know that all the experts don't.

lulz


http://www.radardetector.org/reviews/bel-sti-r-plus-radar-detector-review/



Oh I see...you're a V1 zombie...makes perfect sense now...hahaha

I'd like to know how I'm a zombie. I bought a V1 in '94, when it was THE UNDISPUTED KING of detectors. It sent the detector market reeling. Since then, I've seen it at the top and, once in awhile, fighting for the top. No matter the test, it's measurables are tops or close to it, so much of what makes one detector or another chosen as favorite is subjective.

I drive 70,000 miles per year for work and tack on another 15-20,000 on my personal cars. I've got about 1,000,000 miles with a V1, chump. I used to say I've been saved dozens, then hundreds of times. Now, it's probably quite a few hundred times. Combined with a good knowledge of LEO locations and tactics, I've been subjected to 2 laser tickets. Both fought and won. So you can take your ignorant zombie comment and stick em up your tailpipe.


BTW, I love the zombie comment when you're just a "independent" website shill. Why don't you show me a site that doesn't make money off selling detectors? And since V1s are only sold through their company or second-hand, those "independent" sites will always operate with a conflict of interest.

Radar Roy. Cute name. Type Valentine 1 into the search and what do you get? BTW, how does he make money?

If you support my quest as being an independent reviewer of the radar detector industry and wish to support me in my journey, please do me one favor, consider purchasing it at Radarbusters.com (http://go.radardetector.org/radarbusters). As an affiliate and I earn a commission from them if you do make a purchase from them utilizing the links within this website that offsets my costs and time and supports my cause.

Again, they can't sell Valentine 1 detectors at radarbusters.com. So again, conflict of interest.



To anyone else trying to wade through this muck left behind, know that the V1 always rates highly and if it's not getting top marks on the measurables, it's always damn close. And the arrows and bogey counters are also very useful. V1 all the way.

Wannago
09-01-11, 04:07 PM
hahaha

I'd like to know how I'm a zombie. I bought a V1 in '94, when it was THE UNDISPUTED KING of detectors. It sent the detector market reeling. Since then, I've seen it at the top and, once in awhile, fighting for the top. No matter the test, it's measurables are tops or close to it, so much of what makes one detector or another chosen as favorite is subjective.

I drive 70,000 miles per year for work and tack on another 15-20,000 on my personal cars. I've got about 1,000,000 miles with a V1, chump. I used to say I've been saved dozens, then hundreds of times. Now, it's probably quite a few hundred times. Combined with a good knowledge of LEO locations and tactics, I've been subjected to 2 laser tickets. Both fought and won. So you can take your ignorant zombie comment and stick em up your tailpipe.


BTW, I love the zombie comment when you're just a "independent" website shill. Why don't you show me a site that doesn't make money off selling detectors? And since V1s are only sold through their company or second-hand, those "independent" sites will always operate with a conflict of interest.

Radar Roy. Cute name. Type Valentine 1 into the search and what do you get? BTW, how does he make money?

If you support my quest as being an independent reviewer of the radar detector industry and wish to support me in my journey, please do me one favor, consider purchasing it at Radarbusters.com (http://go.radardetector.org/radarbusters). As an affiliate and I earn a commission from them if you do make a purchase from them utilizing the links within this website that offsets my costs and time and supports my cause.

Again, they can't sell Valentine 1 detectors at radarbusters.com. So again, conflict of interest.



To anyone else trying to wade through this muck left behind, know that the V1 always rates highly and if it's not getting top marks on the measurables, it's always damn close. And the arrows and bogey counters are also very useful. V1 all the way.

tsk tsk...obviously by the tone of your response (and recognizing that you're the local e-mouthpiece who has a comment on everything) you took V1 zombie to be a negative...hahaha...I think a little more research might do you good.

Sure RadarRoy sell Beltronics. So what? That was just one example. Look around some of the other resources available out there, he is not alone in his opinion and neither are several independent and very experienced users / testers who do more than stick a unit to a windshield and drive billions of miles. Cute name? Ummm...okay(?) Not sure what that has to do with me? You might want to check his credentials though...

Show you another site that doesn't sell Beltronics? Hmmm, let's see.....here's one:

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2011/08/beltronics-sti-r-plus-review-part-ii.html


The Beltronics STi-R Plus remote radar detector is by far the greatest radar detector of all time. If you are fortunate enough to be able to afford one, by all means, acquire one and marvel at its performance, as there is nothing else (remotely) like it on the planet. It is as close to perfection as anything I have ever driven with. Currently, the Beltronics STiR Plus has no equal and sits at the top of the radar detector food-chain.

There you go. He also has videos to prove it.

I never said there was anything wrong with your V1. Sensitive much? As well, while I don't have the data to prove it, but I'm sure that 17 years ago the V1 could have been the undisputed king of RDs. But I'm also sure you can actually prove that, because surely you wouldn't come on here and state something you couldn't prove. As the saying goes, put up or shut up!

In case you haven't noticed, things have changed quite a bit since 1994 "chump". Arrows....wow! Bogey counter....double wow!! How many times have I seen that lame argument used? How original.

While your doing some research, perhaps look up the word "shill" as well...'cuz you missed the mark there too.

To anyone who is looking for real advice, do yourselves a favor and do some thorough research. There are several independent forums that will give you all the information you need to make the right decision for you. I have no loyalty to any brand. I don't sell 'em, and I don't run a website. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what you buy. thebigjimmouth loves V1s, and has had good luck with them, so for him that's all he needs. I have had good luck with a different product. Do your own research; or not and simply buy a V1 'cuz the bigjimsho says so and will berate you if you don't. Arrows and bogey counter...really...that's it?...ok...

I'm not here to bash the V1. It has its strengths. But do yourself a favour and do your own research before you buy.

The-Dullahan
09-01-11, 05:58 PM
I concur. I have never had to use a detector, but everyone I know swears by the V1. Personally, I have never been stopped by a police officer in a situation that a radar detector would have helped me prevent, so I see them as entirely useless and would not bother getting one, but if this is not the case with you, I would go with the V1. When I am on the interstate, I think the best solution is a CB Radio. Nine times out of ten you can pinpoint the exact location of every state trooper within twenty miles.

It is fun however top use radar emitters from your car whenever a you are passing a riced out Toyota, because they always slow down immediately when they detector blips on, even if they are only doing 45. This works with particular success in West Palm Beach and Miami.

Most of the work-related driving I do is on rural route 474, which has probably never had a single officer on it, since it was first paved. Every car on that road has a CB Radio (Pirate capital of Florida) there are truckers everywhere and most people have stationary mounts in their houses (Even a few people with lookout towers) so I've never bothered with jammers or detectors and while I will not advocate it, as it is entirely illegal, tail-light cutoff switches have proven to be very successful means of avoiding just about anyone, not just the authorities.

ThumperPup
09-01-11, 06:23 PM
best one hands down is called Yous your Brain don't speed then you won't do anything to need to worry about cops
don't drink and drive and you won't need a radar detector to tell you when a cop is around to get yoru game back on
don''t drive stupid and you won't need one period

just my .02 cnets
in 16 years have never used one and never needed one and never will

JFJr
09-01-11, 08:38 PM
Ha haa! I've run across you guys who proudly proclaim that you don't use radar detectors. It's either stupidity or luck, but luck can and will run out. As long as you always stay within 2 or 3 mph from the speed limit, you may be safe, but if you screw up, the price of one ticket could be close to the cost of a premier detector. How can you be so smug with a car that is so sneaky quick as the "V," particularly when ticket fines are now for improving the bottom line and have nothing to do with safety?

Jud

ThumperPup
09-01-11, 09:04 PM
iv just never needed a Radar Dector and never plan on needing one
and all my real life in real life friends that have them tell me they never helped them they still got tikets they never worked properly and well hey i don't need one

JFJr
09-01-11, 09:15 PM
iv just never needed a Radar Dector and never plan on needing one
and all my real life in real life friends that have them tell me they never helped them they still got tikets they never worked properly and well hey i don't need oneHa haa! Good luck and maybe reality will never visit you like the rest of us mere mortals.

Wannago
09-01-11, 09:59 PM
Keep in mind Jud that we are on a Cadillac forum, and this isn't in the V section, so many of these folks are from an entirely different demographic from, let's say, the "enthusiast" demographic we are used to. Obviously many are content to chug along at the posted speed limit, and that's fine, just as long as they keep outta the left lane so I can put my countermeasures (and my 556 HP engine) to good use!

79808

Night Wolf
09-01-11, 09:59 PM
I've had my Escort Passport 8500 X50 since '04. It's been in every single one of my vehicles and halfway around the world with me. It shows its' age but still works well. Laser falsing from the horn/nav is due to the cars electrical system mostly. You can get a choke from rat shack that may help it or open it up and reattach the sheild. If you send it back to Escort they will slightly de-sensitize the laser portion. There is a short in the RJ11 plug on the smart cord, I'll be cutting it back and putting a new end on it. Now and then it says "service required" so I'm thinking about sending it back to Escort and having them go through the whole thing for $80.

In NY the troopers on the thruway always used Ka and it worked excellent. When I moved to the Tampa Bay area, it seemed like most cops weren't running any sort of radar as it'd hardly go off, nor did cops seem to care about speed much unless it was very obvious.

I was used to not using it so when I moved to GA I didn't use it much. I really don't have a need for it in the Jeep as I usually set the cruise at, or under the speed limit on the interstate. It'll reach triple digits but it isn't exactly made for it. However the old Passport has a new lease on life in the 528e, as I've found the clapped out looking 25yo 121hp Panzer is very effective for flying, well, under the radar - and it does it so well, easily crusing at speeds the Jeep has never seen.

Bowtye8
09-01-11, 10:07 PM
I second this one... I had a V1 and also returned it to get the Escort Passport. The Passport is a phenomenal radar detector that worked well, had a nice display and also looked nice. One thing I hated about the V1 was its antiquated looks... it looked like an original fuzz buster.
79720
Cub Cadet- I sitll have that detector with the original box. Price tag on it back then was 99.00. Dont know why I still have ...just for nostalga reasons like this....Too funny

I currently use a V1 and love it.

JFJr
09-01-11, 11:01 PM
Keep in mind Jud that we are on a Cadillac forum, and this isn't in the V section, so many of these folks are from an entirely different demographic from, let's say, the "enthusiast" demographic we are used to. Obviously many are content to chug along at the posted speed limit, and that's fine, just as long as they keep outta the left lane so I can put my countermeasures (and my 556 HP engine) to good use!

79808Yeah, but even a Prius can exceed posted speed limits pretty easily, so how does that mentality work in the real world? I forgot we're off the "V" forum, so I'm finished with this discussion. It's time for old working farts like me to go to bed.

thebigjimsho
09-01-11, 11:17 PM
tsk tsk...obviously by the tone of your response (and recognizing that you're the local e-mouthpiece who has a comment on everything) you took V1 zombie to be a negative...hahaha...I think a little more research might do you good.

Sure RadarRoy sell Beltronics. So what? That was just one example. Look around some of the other resources available out there, he is not alone in his opinion and neither are several independent and very experienced users / testers who do more than stick a unit to a windshield and drive billions of miles. Cute name? Ummm...okay(?) Not sure what that has to do with me? You might want to check his credentials though...

Show you another site that doesn't sell Beltronics? Hmmm, let's see.....here's one:

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2011/08/beltronics-sti-r-plus-review-part-ii.html



There you go. He also has videos to prove it.

I never said there was anything wrong with your V1. Sensitive much? As well, while I don't have the data to prove it, but I'm sure that 17 years ago the V1 could have been the undisputed king of RDs. But I'm also sure you can actually prove that, because surely you wouldn't come on here and state something you couldn't prove. As the saying goes, put up or shut up!

In case you haven't noticed, things have changed quite a bit since 1994 "chump". Arrows....wow! Bogey counter....double wow!! How many times have I seen that lame argument used? How original.

While your doing some research, perhaps look up the word "shill" as well...'cuz you missed the mark there too.

To anyone who is looking for real advice, do yourselves a favor and do some thorough research. There are several independent forums that will give you all the information you need to make the right decision for you. I have no loyalty to any brand. I don't sell 'em, and I don't run a website. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what you buy. thebigjimmouth loves V1s, and has had good luck with them, so for him that's all he needs. I have had good luck with a different product. Do your own research; or not and simply buy a V1 'cuz the bigjimsho says so and will berate you if you don't. Arrows and bogey counter...really...that's it?...ok...

I'm not here to bash the V1. It has its strengths. But do yourself a favour and do your own research before you buy.Well, i tried to find a comparison of the great Beltronics but couldn't find one on veilguy's blog. In the process, however, his blog did point me out to this product...



http://radaractive.com/v1

thebigjimsho
09-01-11, 11:19 PM
And I'm not supposed to get offended by being called a V1 zombie? Whatever...

Wannago
09-01-11, 11:49 PM
It's simply a slang term for loyal, die hard Valentine 1 users....having used one since the 90's, you certainly qualify. Its not a derogatory term nor was it meant to be.

thebigjimsho
09-02-11, 12:00 AM
Well, if it's not, than OK. I take back the chump stuff. Kinda. lulz.

Wannago
09-02-11, 12:35 AM
And likewise I'll retract my negative comments. Peace...

The-Dullahan
09-02-11, 02:04 AM
Ha haa! I've run across you guys who proudly proclaim that you don't use radar detectors. It's either stupidity or luck, but luck can and will run out. As long as you always stay within 2 or 3 mph from the speed limit, you may be safe, but if you screw up, the price of one ticket could be close to the cost of a premier detector. How can you be so smug with a car that is so sneaky quick as the "V," particularly when ticket fines are now for improving the bottom line and have nothing to do with safety?

Jud

I see where you are coming from there, but you think it's stupidity or luck. Well, let's review.

There is no such thing as being too stupid to get a ticket. That makes no sense.

As for Luck, I am Irish, meaning I have a constant stream of bad luck that flows like a river, so I should be getting tickets all the time, right? Therefore, it is not luck.

Besides. I speed. A lot. In fact, all the roads I use in a typical day have a speed limit of 55 or LESS...But I only do under 70 if the car in front of me prevents that and hey, two weeks ago, I hopped a curb and passed someone on the sidewalk. Even when I am not doing my usual 75-80 range, I am NEVER doing as low as 55. I know quite a few people with radar detectors and while I am not sure if all of them have received tickets while the radar detector was in use, I know that MOST of them have. As for me, I am not going to say I have never gotten a ticket for anything. When I do, I fight them and get them dismissed, but that has nothing to do with having or not having a detector. The thing is, not ONE ticket that I have ever received could have been prevented by my having a detector. Not one. Every time I have ever received a ticket in my life I was aware of the officer, probably longer than they were aware of me and there is no way having a radar detector would have helped me out of a ticket. I HAVE however driven cars with radar detectors in them and I think the best example is the following story.

Last October I drove a CTS from Clermont FL to Asheville NC and came back in a CTS-V, all in one day. My average speed for the entire trip TO NC, which brings me through MANY states, was over 100 mph, all up I-95 and across 26. Georgia's section of this trip was a major construction project, but there was still no traffic and there were times I opened the throttle and pushed beyond 100, but tried to keep it between 100 and 105 for the most part. Several times, the detector blipped or really started beeping and actually had a spoken message, but it did not effect my driving. I arrived in NC, traded for the CTSV and made the trip back to Clermont, in much the same fashion as the trip up. I passed construction and detour zones, all with Highway Patrol officers present. I saw more than a few police cars on my journey and not once did I have a problem. THis was the longest trip I have ever had to make in a vehicle with a police radar detector and my conclusion is that the device was pointless.

The way I see it, I speed frequently, I use wig-wags, sirens or PA systems to pull over tourists who are in the same lane as me if they are moving slower than me and I cannot get around them, my stereo is louder than it is supposed to be in residential areas and my car even has a cutoff switch for all of the rear lamps, to avoid detection at night, which is HIGHLY illegal. In fact, multiple officers have spoken to me and told me that they actually see me and WANT to pull me over, just to get a better look at my car, but I have never received so much as a WARNING for any of those things and would I invest in a radar detector? No, because for the most part, I do NOT get pulled over. If you offered me a free detector, yeah, I would take it, but only because it has resale value. I would not waste the space.

I know some people swear by them, but maybe they are just not for everyone and if this offended you in any way, I am sorry you feel that way, but I do not think you can legitimately brand others as "stupid" because they don't make a habit of getting speeding tickets.

Jesda
09-02-11, 02:30 AM
After a while I lost interest in the radar and nodded my head to the catchy tune.

mberisha
09-02-11, 05:54 AM
The Beltronics STi-R Plus is the undisputed king of RDs, and many feel it is the best RD ever made. Check out http://www.radardetectorforum.org

As for laser jammers, the Laser Intereceptor brand has been proven time and time again to be the best on the market.

I'm not just saying that because I own both...I could have bought whatever make / model I wanted, and after months of research, there was no doubt.

Here's a vid from a recent road trip of an encounter with constant on Ka band (Sti-R +) and a laser trap at the same time (Laser Interceptor). The cop wasn't too bright....picked a decent spot in the middle of nowhere, where a divided highway speed was reduced from 110 km/h to 80 km/h for a distance of 37 kms. As this was a Sunday and there were no crews working, obviously people would be inclined to ignore the speed reduction. Bozo cop parks his cruiser and pulls out the Lidar gun, but leaves his radar on! As you can see, I picked the radar up a long way in advance and was only doing about 5 over when he hit me with the laser (the siren sound you hear near the end). I quickly made sure to slow down to the PSL and then turned off the jammer (always practice responsible jamming kiddies!).

Pardon the lame music....XM 80's on 8...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmR4BnCpKe8

Just a quick question.....(I have no need for a detector in Europe)...but all those single beeps that seemed to be at the same long spaced intervals in the beginning of the vid...what does that mean....?

BTW....like the comment....."got laser'd....eh...".....ahhahaha.....

JFJr
09-02-11, 08:18 AM
Ha haa! That will teach me not to stray from the "V" forum.

Wannago
09-02-11, 11:29 AM
mberisha,

The long slow beeps are the RD alerting to a weak radar signal.

Yeah...I let my "Canadianism" slip there "eh"?

ThumperPup
09-02-11, 12:09 PM
Ha haa! Good luck and maybe reality will never visit you like the rest of us mere mortals.

hey your talking to someone who had at least 3 x 12point suspensions when i was a teenager from 16-18
the last one was the last time i saw the Juvenile court trafice judge
she hit me had i was just before i turned 18 and she gave me a Indefinate suspension
i had petitioned the courts from the time i was 18-21 she would not give me my license back frinaly when she got off the docket another judge gave me my license back
between those 3 years i had been pulled over with atleast a 10 driving under suspensions
then 2 days after i got my license back April 3 2001 i got pulled over DUI for taking a Meidcation with out a prescription that a friend snagged form his moms sample pack for my allergies at the time so i could go to a rave
they found sugar coupes doced in acid in his record bag
he fenced up to that
they couldn't charge me for them for reasons that he said i had no idea they where there but they tested me found alegra in my system no prescriotiipn and a DUI came next

this was 2 days after i got my License back from not having it for over 3 years
imagine how i was feeling after that
well never the less
that was the last time i ever screwed up on anything with traffic anywhere

I have had 3 speeding tickets in the last 9 years each one was in the same Month each one was in Michigan just after a MSU / OSU game and i had my OSU flagg on my car
figure that
lol and the tickets where for 5 over the speed limit each time and just outside of the stadium

gary88
09-02-11, 01:50 PM
What?

mberisha
09-02-11, 01:58 PM
:bulging::bulging:

Stingroo
09-02-11, 02:13 PM
:food-snacking:

JFJr
09-02-11, 07:59 PM
Wow! With your command of the English language, how can you not succeed during any encounter. You'll have to come over to the "V" forum and enlighten all of us. We all need your "help." I'm through with this virtual tour of the Cadillac customer lounge. Ha haa!

Stingroo
09-02-11, 08:22 PM
Cheerio, chap!

:rolleyes:

The-Dullahan
09-02-11, 10:11 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/13/useless-troll.jpg




















Sorry, but there is no way this JFjr guy is being serious.

Jesda
09-02-11, 10:59 PM
So does anyone have a substantive explanation for why the V1 is better or worse than what's out there, or is everyone content with bloviating?

Wannago
09-02-11, 11:47 PM
The V1 is a very good detector, of that there is no doubt.

It's biggest knock is its lack of filtering technology which is a big problem in urban centres, as it becomes very noisy (i.e. lots of false alerts). If it is only going to be used on highways, then it is easily in the top 3 with respect to range and sensitivity. The "Belscort" (Beltronics and Escort) products utilize a very effective algorithm which incorporates GPS data to recognize false alerts and automatically ignore them (or you can maually lock them out as well). While many feel it is the best on the market, it is also a custom installed model worht $1200.00 (plus installation if you can't do it yourself). The V1 is a dahs mount model and is considerbly cheaper. Is the performance improvement of my Sti-R Plus over a V1 woth the ~800.00 difference? No, as the V1 is quite close in its performace. I wanted a custom installed unit, so for me, it was worth it. As well, the Sti-R Plus has many additional features that the V1 doesn't have (nor does any other detector out there). Top dash mount models are the V1, Escort 9500ix, Escort Redline (probably the most sensitive dash mount model available) and the Beltronics STi Driver. Custom installed units are the Beltronics Sti-R Plus and the Escort 9500ci. They are in many ways very similar, but the STI-R Plus has more features and is a better performer than the 9500ci, and the 9500ci comes with laser shifters, and on the STi-R Plus they are an optional add-on. As far as shifters / jammers goes (same thing), the Belscort products are good, but they are not the best on the market. Laser Interceptor leads the way in that regard.

All in, I have about 2500.00 includin install in my countermeasures. Since having them installed in Maarch, I estimate I have saved probably close to that amount in tickets, and even moreif you take into consideration the impact tickets have on insurance.

Unlike most people on this thread, I don't drive your typical Cadillac, and I certainly didn't buy a 556 hp V and mod it to always drive the speed limit. Anyone who says detectors don't work is quite frankly, as Jud mentioned, an idiot! People can't be so naive as to think they can go out to Radio Shack and buy that Cobra RD on sale for 59 bucks and think they can drive any speed, anywhere, at any time. If you use your head (and aren't an idiot), you can drive considerably over the speed limit with a very good cahnce you won't get a ticket, but there is always that possibilty. In a nutshell, never spped all alone on a highway. Cops know how RDs work and frequently hide in a tricky spot with the radar off and use the instant on / quick trigger funtionality to nail you. Regardless of the type of RD you use, you will get a ticket in that scneario. If you let someone else go ahead of use and use them as a "rabbit", your detector will alert to the cop radar'ing the car ahead of you allowing you time to slow down (IF you have a decent RD that is reactive enough to repsond to the short quick burst).

Check out places like: http://www.radardetectorforum.org and http://www.radardetector.net and you will find everyhting you need to know.

Anyway, that's it for RD 101.

Dullhan, I do believe Jud was serious. Some of the comments / posts in this particular thread really are quite embarassing.

thebigjimsho
09-03-11, 12:43 AM
As for the V1, you can tailor how much/little you want in sensitivity to help eliminate falses, if you choose.


http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/TechReport3.asp

The-Dullahan
09-03-11, 02:53 AM
So does anyone have a substantive explanation for why the V1 is better or worse than what's out there, or is everyone content with bloviating?

Primarily, most of the sales of the item that I am aware of are sparked by word of mouth, a google image search and a purchase.

In short, it sells because it looks "cool"

S70RMP
09-03-11, 09:47 AM
The V1 is simply awesome, Ive been using radar dectectors for years and the V1 out works the rest of them. Dont waste money on another just get a V1

Wannago
09-03-11, 11:12 AM
The V1 is simply awesome, Ive been using radar dectectors for years and the V1 out works the rest of them. Dont waste money on another just get a V1

There ya go. All your questions have been answered; look no further!

S70RMP
09-03-11, 11:28 AM
there's nothing muich to say it does the job - it does excatly what is says it will and damn well

S70RMP
09-03-11, 11:31 AM
The Range of the V1 is stunning, I've picked up radar from over a mile away. laser it will pick up from cars being hit in front of you.

If you want one get one and try it, it has a 30 day money back Guarantee.

CIWS
09-05-11, 09:07 AM
If you're really looking for a truthful answer spend some time and watch several of this guys videos that cover the models you are interested in or comparing. This is real world driving on real roads in various conditions. Not test setups to compare absolutes. While watching ask yourself if any of the detectors shown did not provide an adequate warning. One will always go off first, but which if any are simply too late in warning you or not at all.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpeedTrapHunter





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(http://www.youtube.com/user/SpeedTrapHunter)

mberisha
09-05-11, 09:19 AM
Wow....that is a good site....like the "real-world" testing of the detectors....thanks for the link.....

Jesda
09-05-11, 10:35 AM
Oh my god, the beeping.

Just give me the ticket.

Stingroo
09-05-11, 10:55 AM
That gave me a massive headache. I couldn't imagine being in that car during the test.

Wannago
09-05-11, 12:05 PM
Wow....that is a good site....like the "real-world" testing of the detectors....thanks for the link.....

Speedtraphunter = The Veil Guy, whose blog I linked to above. You're right though, probably the best "independent" tester there is, although he does own the Comapny that makes Veil anti laser coating.

mberisha
09-05-11, 01:09 PM
Speedtraphunter = The Veil Guy, whose blog I linked to above. You're right though, probably the best "independent" tester there is, although he does own the Comapny that makes Veil anti laser coating.

hmmmm....interesting.....

thebigjimsho
09-05-11, 11:21 PM
We have some LEOs here. We should have a Caddy Forums RD test...

tomm
09-07-11, 06:39 PM
Best radar detector depends on your individual needs and your location. Give me a PM and we can discuss the best unit for you and your budget.

The-Dullahan
09-07-11, 08:32 PM
http://www.giantoutfitters.com/product_images/a/634/1000x1000_CBR25LTD__46453_zoom.jpg

I always know the exact location of ever police officer within twenty miles.

drewsdeville
09-07-11, 09:26 PM
^^^I took mine out of my '95 before I sold it and it still sits downstairs :/

The-Dullahan
09-08-11, 01:18 AM
^^^I took mine out of my '95 before I sold it and it still sits downstairs :/

My entire crew has them in our cars, so when we're heading down rural 474, I always know what's ahead and what's ahead of me, due to the spotters or whomever is in our trucks. We also have stationary units in the docks, so I can yell at people for stuff.

Likewise, since most business is conducted late at night/early in the morning, there are a hundred other trucks, both commercial big-rigs and standard Chevy/Ford work trucks heading down the road, all of them more than willing to tell us who is ahead of us, help spot any trouble or just talk. Locals in the area also use them at home, including two in particular, one of whom has a massive watchtower that overlooks the highway. If you switch between infrequent channels or get a handheld that operates on different frequencies and pick up other conversations. Rural 474 goes around the state park and past rural and historic Groveland/Clermont and most people who live there own a dozen acres, so there is never traffic, so it is better than 27 and all it's traffic lights. If you go to the South end of it heading into Polk City, you need "spotters" in front of and behind your rig.

:pirate2:

The Pirates don't just harass truckers though and several times in the past, faux-unmarked cars were used to set up blockades or pull people over to rob them.

Police on that end always LOVE me, because my car makes me look like a smuggler and/or highway-pirate, but I bet it's just racial profiling of the Irish, because that's one of our few traditional occupations, because I bed they don't pick on every Hearse with wig-wags, sirens and a flip-down plate that comes through there. Honestly, I hope none of them are reading this,because they aren't aware of that.

:hide:

In spite of this, I consider radar detectors to be impractical nonsense.

Wannago
09-08-11, 10:45 AM
You're probably right...better keep this "CB" stuff to yourself, otherwise it could put all the RD manufacturers out of business!

The-Dullahan
09-08-11, 03:38 PM
It's more than it they realize I'm driving the most cliche smuggling vehicle AND it has Sirens,wig-wags, brakelamp cutoff switches and whatnot...They may get a bit suspicious.

thebigjimsho
09-08-11, 05:34 PM
I also have my Uniden BCT-10...

The-Dullahan
09-08-11, 08:35 PM
I have a friend who collects antique radios. Never tried opening a chat with him. I also used to work with a Mad Russian who had a series of antenna on his car for his Radios. As usual, Cadillacs are Superior. I can use my hood ornament as a functional CB antenna.

brandondeleo
09-09-11, 08:24 AM
I can use my hood ornament as a functional CB antenna.Bad ass much? I think so!

tomm
09-09-11, 11:19 AM
As for the V1, you can tailor how much/little you want in sensitivity to help eliminate falses, if you choose.

http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/TechReport3.asp

Not really. You can either turn on or turn of complete bands and you can only Auto Mute on K band. Why you cant automute on all bands in beyond me. Dont get me wrong the V1 is a great windshield mounted HIGHWAY detector but if you want to use it in the city as well get a GX65 or Escort 9500ix (If you want a windshield mounted detector) where you can mark and ignore all false alerts. Also if you travel through Virginia or Washington DC where they use RDD's (Radar Detector Detectors) to find cars that have radar detectors they can easily detect the V1 from as far away as 1000FT.

tomm
09-09-11, 11:22 AM
The V1 is a very good detector, of that there is no doubt.

It's biggest knock is its lack of filtering technology which is a big problem in urban centres, as it becomes very noisy (i.e. lots of false alerts). If it is only going to be used on highways, then it is easily in the top 3 with respect to range and sensitivity. The "Belscort" (Beltronics and Escort) products utilize a very effective algorithm which incorporates GPS data to recognize false alerts and automatically ignore them (or you can maually lock them out as well). While many feel it is the best on the market, it is also a custom installed model worht $1200.00 (plus installation if you can't do it yourself). The V1 is a dahs mount model and is considerbly cheaper. Is the performance improvement of my Sti-R Plus over a V1 woth the ~800.00 difference? No, as the V1 is quite close in its performace. I wanted a custom installed unit, so for me, it was worth it. As well, the Sti-R Plus has many additional features that the V1 doesn't have (nor does any other detector out there). Top dash mount models are the V1, Escort 9500ix, Escort Redline (probably the most sensitive dash mount model available) and the Beltronics STi Driver. Custom installed units are the Beltronics Sti-R Plus and the Escort 9500ci. They are in many ways very similar, but the STI-R Plus has more features and is a better performer than the 9500ci, and the 9500ci comes with laser shifters, and on the STi-R Plus they are an optional add-on. As far as shifters / jammers goes (same thing), the Belscort products are good, but they are not the best on the market. Laser Interceptor leads the way in that regard.

All in, I have about 2500.00 includin install in my countermeasures. Since having them installed in Maarch, I estimate I have saved probably close to that amount in tickets, and even moreif you take into consideration the impact tickets have on insurance.

Unlike most people on this thread, I don't drive your typical Cadillac, and I certainly didn't buy a 556 hp V and mod it to always drive the speed limit. Anyone who says detectors don't work is quite frankly, as Jud mentioned, an idiot! People can't be so naive as to think they can go out to Radio Shack and buy that Cobra RD on sale for 59 bucks and think they can drive any speed, anywhere, at any time. If you use your head (and aren't an idiot), you can drive considerably over the speed limit with a very good cahnce you won't get a ticket, but there is always that possibilty. In a nutshell, never spped all alone on a highway. Cops know how RDs work and frequently hide in a tricky spot with the radar off and use the instant on / quick trigger funtionality to nail you. Regardless of the type of RD you use, you will get a ticket in that scneario. If you let someone else go ahead of use and use them as a "rabbit", your detector will alert to the cop radar'ing the car ahead of you allowing you time to slow down (IF you have a decent RD that is reactive enough to repsond to the short quick burst).

Well said and very correct.

thebigjimsho
09-09-11, 01:27 PM
I drive with a V1 in and out of Boston all the time and don't get a lot of falses at all. And it's still working properly...

CIWS
09-11-11, 10:05 AM
Not really. You can either turn on or turn of complete bands and you can only Auto Mute on K band. Why you cant automute on all bands in beyond me. Dont get me wrong the V1 is a great windshield mounted HIGHWAY detector but if you want to use it in the city as well get a GX65 or Escort 9500ix (If you want a windshield mounted detector) where you can mark and ignore all false alerts. Also if you travel through Virginia or Washington DC where they use RDD's (Radar Detector Detectors) to find cars that have radar detectors they can easily detect the V1 from as far away as 1000FT.


I tried a V1 in the city where I live and it was horrible with falses no matter what setting it was put on. I had passengers making comments about how much it kept going off. I sent it back one week later and they provided a prompt refund no questions. So points to Valentine for good customer service.

thebigjimsho
09-11-11, 02:49 PM
I tried a V1 in the city where I live and it was horrible with falses no matter what setting it was put on. I had passengers making comments about how much it kept going off. I sent it back one week later and they provided a prompt refund no questions. So points to Valentine for good customer service.Yeah, they certainly are quality there...

The-Dullahan
09-12-11, 04:32 AM
Down here, every interstate has YOUR SPEED signs, which set off radar detectors. People eventually learn this and just ignore it while they are on the interstate. Good hiding spot for the police, though.

FL interstates are just weird. in Orlando, the speed limit is displayed digitally, so they can change it depeding on time of day/day of week.

I prefer northern interstates.

thebigjimsho
09-12-11, 12:53 PM
Down here, every interstate has YOUR SPEED signs, which set off radar detectors. People eventually learn this and just ignore it while they are on the interstate. Good hiding spot for the police, though.

FL interstates are just weird. in Orlando, the speed limit is displayed digitally, so they can change it depeding on time of day/day of week.

I prefer northern interstates.That situation is where the V1's signal counter and directional arrows come in handy...

CIWS
09-12-11, 11:05 PM
Or an Escort's GPS blocking feature to blank out the speed signs vs the cops.

evois
07-08-12, 10:55 PM
Not really. You can either turn on or turn of complete bands and you can only Auto Mute on K band. Why you cant automute on all bands in beyond me. Dont get me wrong the V1 is a great windshield mounted HIGHWAY detector but if you want to use it in the city as well get a GX65 or Escort 9500ix (If you want a windshield mounted detector) where you can mark and ignore all false alerts. Also if you travel through Virginia or Washington DC where they use RDD's (Radar Detector Detectors) to find cars that have radar detectors they can easily detect the V1 from as far away as 1000FT.

I thought the V1 had VG2 technology that keeps it invisible from radar detector detector. In fact I get a lot of falsies from other detectors.

brandondeleo
07-09-12, 04:07 AM
Holy crap, talk about thread resurrection.

The-Dullahan
07-09-12, 06:42 AM
http://image.synnex.com/image_technote/I190243292.jpg

...Just saying.

cadillac kevin
07-09-12, 09:19 AM
...Just saying.

That looks very similar to a radio shack unit I have

Wannago
07-09-12, 12:20 PM
I thought the V1 had VG2 technology that keeps it invisible from radar detector detector. In fact I get a lot of falsies from other detectors.

The big worry is the Spectre radar detector detectors. I believe they are the most common and they DO pickup the V1. You are probably getting falses from Cobra detectors, they usually leak in the 33.7 ghz range.

The-Dullahan
07-09-12, 03:06 PM
Or pick up a CB radio and drive as fast as you like forevermore without any alarm or concern about where police are, due to the grid system.

Even better, do like me and develop a mutually beneficial relationship with the local authorities and they only time you'll see one in your mirror is as he drives up to beep his horn at you and wave. I used to get pulled over constantly, just for looking suspicious (kids my age are not normally expected to drive cars like my collection, as we are not known for being able to afford them and the Cadillac just looks suspect in particular) but I was always polite and kind to them, making jokes and conversation, even when I was not being pulled over, but simply ran into them as I was out doing whatever I do, when I am out for a walk at 3 AM and they are doing patrols through the neighbourhoods (now they just stop and say hello, then go on their way) or the times I have had to call them for one reason or another (which, you can believe me...that has happened dozens of times) and now they just know me and understand I am not actually up to no good, but very much an upright citizen and not only on their side, but specifically out to help them.