: CTS-V vs BMW M3 or Audi RS 5......... this guy said it best!!!



Mr.MPH
08-31-11, 12:06 AM
By Dan Neil

2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe

Controversy can be a good thing, and thereís a fair bit of it surrounding the 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe, the new two-door version of the Caddy sedan with a 556-hp supercharged V8 forged in Mount Doom.

Is it better than a BMW M3 or Audi RS 5? Is it, or is it not, pathetic that Motor Trend and Car and Driver this month attempt to compare the CTS-V with these European performance coupes? Is the CTS-Vís styling Ė as angular as early Kraftwerk, a strange splintered diamond chip of a car Ė wonderful and heroic, or a fugly waste of photons?

Iíve just spent a week in the CTS-V and, while debate can be bracing and informative, I hereby invoke cloture. Hereís the cold-blooded, clear-eyed, un-debatable bottom line about the CTS-V:

Styling: Not even close. The CTS-V is a visual event, an annunciation, a car that radiates masculinity and soul as if it were a fresh fuel rod. Go ahead and park the CTS-V next to the German rivals. Open yourself up to the melancholic moment when the two other cars seem to shrink, to shrivel into ordinariness, to waste away like a worm on a hot muffler. Iím not saying the CTS-V is aesthetically perfect. Iím saying it makes the German cars look like taxis. End of debate.

Driving: The CTS-V is more fun to drive than the M3 or the RS 5. Importantly, Iím not saying itís a finer, more advanced performance machine, even though the Caddy Ė bigger and heavier Ė is quicker around the Nurburgring than those two cars, and anyone who says American cars donít handle is a pathetic hater. Iíve driven lots of performance automobiles, from Alfa 8C Competiziones to Zondas, and I can assure you, the CTS-V Ė with the big racy rubber, the magnetic dampers, the limited-slip diff, the Brembo land anchors, the gut-bucket torque Ė gets around corners wonderfully.

But, never mind: I said fun. The entertainment factor is off the charts in the CTS-V. Why? Well, first, because itís a dancing bear. This is a big, steel-bodied front-engine coupe, and that means, when you dive into a corner, a lot of weight transfers, so you feel like youíve really got a hold of something. But because of Caddyís superb chassis tuning and 1-g lateral grip, the car take a nice firm suspension set early and affirmatively. Now itís locked down, shoulder to the ground, effortlessly predictable. From this posture you can tuck in, chase the apex and let the car understeer through the corner or you can pick up the throttle early and help it rotate with power-on oversteer. The CTS-V makes it easy for mere civilians to drift like Tanner Foust. Itís the fact that you have such a broad range of options Ė and therefore cornering lines Ė that makes the car fun.

And then thereís corner exit. Itís true that the CTS-V supercharged V8 isnít quite the wraith-shrieking wundermill of a German sports coupe. But the grunt Ė peak torque is 551 pound-feet at 3,800 rpm Ė is galling, enormous, awesome. And Caddy engineers specifically tuned the traction management to wring the last Mu of grip out of the asphalt before the computer steps in to feather, ever so slightly, the output. The result is a car that absolutely digs for China as you unwind the wheel on corner exit.

And, oh yeah, itís fast. This is a car that effortlessly reaches 100 mph in about 9 seconds and when the supercharger is fully angered, you can well and truly smoke the baloneys in third gear. Oh my. I need a moment.

Other indisputable facts: The Recaro seats are splendid. Herman Miller never sold a chair half its equal.

The overrun engines noises are delirious, a lush, pyrotechnic cackle, like the rewarding sound of a distant string of Daisy Cutter munitions falling on Al Qaeda hideouts.

The Caddyís suede steering wheel rim is so much better than the BMWís Nerf-y, thick-sectioned wheel, it isnít even funny.

The Caddy is Ė at the risk of being political incorrectness Ė a manís car. Hefty steering, locking rear diff, glowering aesthetics. This car isnít going to appeal to everybody. Only a few good men.

As I said, these are the facts of the case and they are not in dispute.


http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2010/08/06/cadillacs-cts-v-coupe-makes-german-rivals-look-like-taxis/



I just had to post this.........makes me kinda a a a tear up a bit

smackdownCTSV
08-31-11, 12:18 AM
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GM-4-LIFE
08-31-11, 01:56 AM
I agree 100%!!! Very well put and very well said. I never understood why Car and Driver and Motor Trend rate it last in that comparo.

translux
08-31-11, 02:03 AM
Would not have expected this from the ascot wearing Dan Neil but when it's this great it's hard to deny.
BTW he's on the car show with Adam Corolla, John Sally and Matt Farah -sorry I'd I spelled all their names wrong too tired to check.

M5eater
08-31-11, 09:56 AM
I agree 100%!!! Very well put and very well said. I never understood why Car and Driver and Motor Trend rate it last in that comparo.

comming from two magazines that once considered the E90 the best car in the world, is it so surprising?

buddyg
08-31-11, 12:13 PM
I have to agree completely with his assesment.

I also think the styling is awesome. Distinct, different, somewhat flamboyant but not boring at all like the other sedans out there.

translux
08-31-11, 12:39 PM
I have to agree completely with his assesment.

I also think the styling is awesome. Distinct, different, somewhat flamboyant but not boring at all like the other sedans out there.

Yah everything else looks the same.
The V looks like what cars of the future were going to look like when I was a kid.