: Cadillac Ciel - With a top and door handles



Lord Cadillac
08-24-11, 05:00 PM
Any thoughts?

hueterm
08-24-11, 05:39 PM
I don't like the slit headlights and the ridiculously huge wheels and razor thin tires, but the overall shape is awesome. T'would be awesome in a coupe...

Lord Cadillac
08-24-11, 07:17 PM
The headlights certainly aren't making it on a production vehicle. Neither are the mirrors. However, I'm sure both can be widened up without taking away from the appearance of the vehicle. The size of the wheels and profile of the tires should be optional. I also think the suicide doors will be fine for a production model. I really hope something comes of this design, unlike the Sixteen and Cien...

JimmyH
08-24-11, 08:34 PM
Yeah, usually all the extreme styling elements that look kinda ridiculous never make it to production.

brothleutner
08-24-11, 11:42 PM
There are no suicide doors on this photo.... that is lame. From this angle, I would be fine with it if it had more CTS'esq headlights. Looks like there is a spot perfect for them. I also like it better with a roof.

Stingroo
08-25-11, 12:24 AM
Oh HELLS yes.

Do want.

Harry_Wild
08-25-11, 06:18 AM
I like the Ciel Concept! Now, what is the actual car going to look like is another question. Cadallic and almost all the other companies give the eye treatment and then reduce the design down to something that is bland and just like their other car models. I just hope that Cadallic keeps most of the look of the Ciel when it goings into production.

Cadillac Tony
08-25-11, 10:43 AM
GM has been tipping it's hand pretty openly with it's "concepts" the last few years. The Provoq was the upcoming SRX redesign hiding in plain sight as a "concept hybrid", right down to the interior door panels, radio and driver info center.

Everyone also thought the CTS Coupe concept's massively angled rear bumper, sloping glass and center exhaust would never make production- it did.

PROVOQ

http://www.hybridcars.com/files/imagecache/full_502/files/graphics/provoq-front-side.jpg
http://www.hybridcars.com/files/imagecache/full_502/files/graphics/provoq-interior-driver.jpg


Production SRX

http://cdn.leftlanenews.com/photos/content/june2011/thumbnailsnew/2012-cadillac-srx-17_653.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PlEoP95oZ_o/TBQ3Jgz22kI/AAAAAAAAANQ/rjtiIssh5m0/s1600/112_0906_05z%252B2010_cadillac_SRX%252Binterior.jp g


CTS Coupe "concept"

http://www.autosgeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cadillac_cts_coupe.jpg

CTS Coupe Production

http://cdn.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2009_la_cadillac_cts_coupe_images_main.jpg


Based on this trend, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the styling elements from the Ciel, including the skinny headlamps, make it into production on the flagship FTS.

Lord Cadillac
08-25-11, 12:16 PM
I'm thinking the skinny headlamps have a good chance of making it to production as well. With the advances in technology, lighting has really come a long way. So I have a feeling those skinny headlamps probably light things up as good as anything on the road. The car is probably closer to production ready than most of us realize. I have a feeling the suicide doors won't make it to production, at least the way they work with the concept, due to weight. Non-powered, maybe...

skytop
08-26-11, 11:20 PM
Finally figured out where I saw the shape of the side mirrors. Bet the designers saw it there too.
where? The shape of the George Pal "War of the Worlds" Martian exploratory pod with the multi tri colored lens.

Truly a gorgeous organic shape that works wonderfully on the Ciel.

The CTS looks like an overstuffed pork sausage grease ball.

The Ciel design team will never use humdrum tiresome and conventional door handles as you depict in your Photoshop picture. The entire concept of the Ciel is to be organic, innovative and fluid. Somehow, they will devise a flush handle probably with a spring loaded face plate that totally conceals the actual handle.

Rhinelander
08-27-11, 05:13 PM
Is that a GM press release photo, that car is very close to production ready. the suicide doors are gone and there is a "B" pillar like it should be. The head lamp slots look a bit wider as well.

Those micro side mirrors could be housing rear view cameras, that seems to be the next step.

I do like this one, but I think they front end could use a bit more refinement but maybe it just looks odd in the pics.

thebigjimsho
08-29-11, 10:33 PM
Any thoughts?http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/its-beautiful.jpg

Lord Cadillac
08-30-11, 11:26 AM
Just an FYI. A Cadillac spokesman recently hinted that a hard top version of this vehicle is readily available for show...

RippyPartsDept
08-30-11, 12:41 PM
I think that photo is from one of the car mags... C&D maybe?

Rhinelander
08-30-11, 06:16 PM
If that pic is from GM, then they are moving real fast on this project. Cadillac is going to have an incredible next couple years, exciting times indeed.

I just read the press release on the new products from Lincoln and just about feel asleep.

RippyPartsDept
08-30-11, 06:22 PM
http://blog.caranddriver.com/cadillac-ciel-sedan-rendered-putting-a-top-on-caddys-stunning-droptop-concept/

it was car and driver

but also according to this article they have a hardtop ready to show off very soon
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44325581/ns/business-autos/#.Tl1UoVnG2Dl

whisler151
08-30-11, 07:58 PM
Any thoughts?

Is it just me or do the tread patterns seem to be going opposite ways? It looks like the driver side rear tire was put on the passenger side and vice versa as the tires appear to be directional.

Or am I on crack?

JimmyH
08-30-11, 08:14 PM
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.....They are still making Lincolns?

dennis93coupe
09-04-11, 03:04 PM
Either I'm color blind or my monitor is way off, but it sure looks dark plum to me. I'd be interested to see the interior options with this car beings it doesn't show suicide doors. I'll bet the suicide doors are out due to safety regulations.

Rodya234
09-05-11, 12:13 AM
^ Rolls Royce manages to sell cars with suicide doors ("carriage" doors as they say), Cadillac should have no problem with them.

RippyPartsDept
09-05-11, 07:01 PM
jay leno talks with ed welburn at pebble beach next to the Ciel ... jay brings up the doors almost right off the bat

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/pebble-beach/cadillac-ciel-concept/

dennis93coupe
09-06-11, 01:11 PM
jay leno talks with ed welburn at pebble beach next to the Ciel ... jay brings up the doors almost right off the bat

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/pebble-beach/cadillac-ciel-concept/

Cabinet doors... Well whatever they want to call them just make it happen... Those are pretty trick how they open with the button on top and notice he said rear door will not open unless the front door is open... I believe this car has much more potential to come off the assembly line than concept cars we've seen in the past from Cadillac... I really like the wood dash, not faux plastic as many of older models in the past... It would have been nice to see that hood go up just to view the mess stuffed in there... Hybrid is here to stay whether we like it or not... 425 HP with rear wheel drive this has potential for a V version in the future... It's not the Cadillac for everybody, but if I had the money dam right I'd have one maybe a year or so after they hit the market... Anybody know how long it took for the Camaro to hit the streets after it had it's show like this? I remember seeing it on one of the automotive programs but don't remember when that was.

RippyPartsDept
09-06-11, 01:31 PM
Mr Welburn also said that they keep the doors automatic on the concept vehicle to make sure nobody messes them up
(the motor will open them with the same amount of force every time... and stop when it reaches the end of it's ability)
so the auto doors will obviously not make it to production

but i'd love for the rest of it to make it to production, especially the wood inserts... note that they said not a veneer ... whole piece of wood!

Lord Cadillac
09-06-11, 01:43 PM
The automatic doors would weigh down the vehicle as well. I'd rather just have regular suicide doors that you have to open yourself. Self-closing/sealing the way the competition does is fine, however..

JimmyH
09-06-11, 08:11 PM
lambo doors

GizmoQ
09-06-11, 10:36 PM
lambo doors

FTL :yawn:

Stingroo
09-07-11, 11:00 AM
Jimmeh Jimmeh Jimmeh...


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