: Traded my c5 z06 in for an 2004 cts v



greg12m3
08-24-11, 11:44 AM
So a week ago out of the blue I found a 2004 cts v with 45k for sale for 20999. I immediately called one of my car buddies and said hey want to go check out this car, like just look at it? So we went and i fell in love, I loved my z06, it was an amazing car but the cts v just seemed better all around aside from being slower. Without hesitation I offered my 04 z06 with 50k for a straight trade for the cts v. Now after a week and 1500 miles I really love and understand the deal with the cts v, also having in my past an e39 m5 and w210 e55 i had high expectation for it and it definitely hasn't disappointed me yet. with every "new" car I have always had some problems so i just have a few questions which i have somewhat searched for the answer but haven't had any luck.

1. what are the two rubber bushing like things on the shifter? not on the end of the shifter it self but the two arms that hold it up. There is metal bracket that looks like it goes over them and then bolts into place. I have a bm shifter which was notchy and i took a few things apart to improve it, i did remove these two bushings things and it feels a little bit better but aren't sure if thats for it.

2. also i have a lot of trouble sometimes getting into first? is there an adjustment pin for the shifter like on the corvette?

3. how hard is it to do the motor mounts? my car doesn't have headers also. Would you just need to the raise the front with ramps and then raise the motor a bit?

thats all for now, thanks, here are some pictures below.
these are from when i bought it, i have untinted the lights, debadged the dealer badge and cts and removed the window vents.


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garrettg
08-24-11, 11:57 AM
Check the trans mount if the stock is worn and the tail of the trans is sagging then that may be why its hard to get it into first and to shift in general. The CS (Creative Steel) trans and engine mounts are popular upgrade. When the tail of the trans sags the linkage does as well it seems to make it hard to get leverage and find gears. Also the rest of the drivetrain is sagging putting a weird angle on the donut bushing that is between the driveshaft and diff also causing resistance when shifting. I went with the cs trans mount and will do the motor mounts soon. I know others have just put washers(shims) under the stock trans mount to raise the tail of the trans back up. If you search around can find a picture of the difference in cs and stock mount I took recently.

lollygagger8
08-24-11, 11:59 AM
1. Get UUC bushings and search for PISINUOFF's shifter. It makes a world of difference.

2. Bleed the clutch and shifting morale will improve.

3. MM's aren't hard at all. Check out the DIY section in the performance forum.

Welcome aboard!!

Good mf'n choice mf'r!!
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heavymetals
08-24-11, 12:01 PM
"The only way to have the best of both worlds is to have both" Heavymetals

PISNUOFF
08-24-11, 12:01 PM
1. Shifter bushings. Call Luke at Lindsay Cadillac to order some UUC polyurethane replacement ones.

2. Flush the cluthch fluid. This should dramatically help with shifting, especially getting into first and reverse. Some people use the replace the fluid in the reservoir a few times method, but I prefer to actually get under the car and flush the fluid properly. If/when you replace the clutch, install a remote bleeder and this process will only take about 5 minutes total.

3. That's pretty much the process.

DougNuts
08-24-11, 02:56 PM
3. how hard is it to do the motor mounts? my car doesn't have headers also. Would you just need to the raise the front with ramps and then raise the motor a bit?



CS put a how-to on you tube, just follow that and you'll be golden.

rand49er
08-24-11, 04:57 PM
Wait a minute ... wait just a minute! Hold the phone!

You traded a Z06 for a V?!! Even up?!! :canttalk:

D.K
08-24-11, 05:15 PM
You bought that CTS-V! I was planning on buying either that one or the other '04 on their lot for $17K. They sold both right before I left the house. :nono: Luckily I got a chance to pick up another '04 V a few days after. :bouncy:

cvettr/cts-v
08-24-11, 05:32 PM
Congrats and glad you removed those window vents. Never seen them on a V and hope not to again. Oh well personal opinion.

greg12m3
08-24-11, 06:53 PM
Check the trans mount if the stock is worn and the tail of the trans is sagging then that may be why its hard to get it into first and to shift in general. The CS (Creative Steel) trans and engine mounts are popular upgrade. When the tail of the trans sags the linkage does as well it seems to make it hard to get leverage and find gears. Also the rest of the drivetrain is sagging putting a weird angle on the donut bushing that is between the driveshaft and diff also causing resistance when shifting. I went with the cs trans mount and will do the motor mounts soon. I know others have just put washers(shims) under the stock trans mount to raise the tail of the trans back up. If you search around can find a picture of the difference in cs and stock mount I took recently.

thank you, i looked underneath and it appears the tranny is sagging, so trans mount is added to the todo list


1. Get UUC bushings and search for PISINUOFF's shifter. It makes a world of difference.

2. Bleed the clutch and shifting morale will improve.

3. MM's aren't hard at all. Check out the DIY section in the performance forum.

Welcome aboard!!

Good mf'n choice mf'r!!


haha, thanks, for bleeding the clutch, i imagine the prefered method is from the bleeder screw but is the "ranger/turkey baster" method acceptable?


1. Shifter bushings. Call Luke at Lindsay Cadillac to order some UUC polyurethane replacement ones.

2. Flush the cluthch fluid. This should dramatically help with shifting, especially getting into first and reverse. Some people use the replace the fluid in the reservoir a few times method, but I prefer to actually get under the car and flush the fluid properly. If/when you replace the clutch, install a remote bleeder and this process will only take about 5 minutes total.

3. That's pretty much the process.

thanks, I'm definitely gonna order the bushings tomorrow, the ones i took out were warped and just beat to crap


CS put a how-to on you tube, just follow that and you'll be golden.

Found it! thanks


Wait a minute ... wait just a minute! Hold the phone!

You traded a Z06 for a V?!! Even up?!! :canttalk:

yeah, my z06 wasn't in perfect condition, a few blemishes on the driver door, gas filler door was broke and the seat bottom was sunk, the people at the dealership were sticklers too but the their car was pretty clean, i think it's the cleanieast car i've owned.


You bought that CTS-V! I was planning on buying either that one or the other '04 on their lot for $17K. They sold both right before I left the house. :nono: Luckily I got a chance to pick up another '04 V a few days after. :bouncy:

I also was interested in the one they had for 17k but it had sold too before i had gotten there, i'm glad i got there in time for this, i'm awfully pleased with its conditon


Congrats and glad you removed those window vents. Never seen them on a V and hope not to again. Oh well personal opinion.

I agree 100%, it was truly disgusting with them on it

D.K
08-24-11, 09:30 PM
I also was interested in the one they had for 17k but it had sold too before i had gotten there, i'm glad i got there in time for this, i'm awfully pleased with its conditon


Congrats on your purchase! It's definitely a clean car! Let me know how you make out with the motor and trans mounts...I've got to do the same on mine.

Cobrahunter
08-24-11, 11:05 PM
get that dealer sticker off the back!!

nice trade!

mberisha
08-25-11, 03:06 AM
Yeah....congrats....and don't waste time....get the V "MURDER'D OUT!"

Aurora40
08-25-11, 08:02 AM
Wait a minute ... wait just a minute! Hold the phone!

You traded a Z06 for a V?!! Even up?!! :canttalk:
I'm guessing you haven't looked at the C5Z market in a bit? They have really dropped, you can buy nice ones under $20k, and super nice low miles ones for like $22-3k.

lollygagger8
08-25-11, 10:15 AM
The turkey baster doesn't get 7/8" of the crap that's in the slave or the lines.

Unfortunately it's time to get on your back and grow a second elbow so you can reach the bleeder screw.