: It's all about the "Details" for 93-96 FWB's (56kers) Beware.



SDCaddyLacky
08-16-11, 11:43 PM
I just wanted to show everybody what I did to make the blandish interiors of these cars a little more exciting to be in. The chrome strip around the door panel was a pain to do, it's not perfect, since I just did everything the other day, will fix it right eventually with some more mounting tape. I got the emblems and brougham script off Ebay from other Cadillac's. I really want to paint the brougham script to match my interior because it's doesn't look all that great just being all chrome without any sort definition. Also I mounted a Fleetwood script on the back of the Cadillac's trunk because I feel that Cadillac should of originally put them on the Fleetwoods in the first place. Now people don't have to wonder what can of Caddy I'm driving, and that it's NOT a Deville. Lol. I repainted the whole trunk in May with the help of my neighbor because the paint's clear coat was peeling all over the place, we did everything on the street! Sanded, primer, recoat with matching paint, then clearcoat. I still need to have it polished and waxed, because of the orange peel. The car is actually dirty and needs a wash, it's hard to tell in the pics tho.

Let me know what you guys think.:D

It's not perfect, the interior is still a work in progress.


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cadillac kevin
08-17-11, 12:04 AM
IMO the metal cadillac logos on the fabric of the doors look tacky. if they were stitched into the fabric (like what the factory did on the 80's fwbs) it would look really cool though.
the chrome around the wood on the door would look good if it was straight. I'd see if you can get it made out of metal instead of the plastic stuff that comes in a roll.
as for a real caddy crest/ wreath on the door, I would get the mini crest/ wreaths that were used on the sides of the seats and door panels on the 80's cadillacs and put on the area on the front of the wood on the door (centered on the tweeter grille/ that area on the back doors.)
as for the outside touches, I do like the fleetwood script on the tunk as well as the wreaths around the locks.

sven914
08-17-11, 12:15 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, but it's kinda like your trying to pass off a man's shoe for a women's...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-T7iNS_V1E

MoistCabbage
08-17-11, 12:46 AM
Double post.

MoistCabbage
08-17-11, 12:49 AM
The Fleetwood script on the trunk, and the wreaths around the key holes, I like.

On the doors, if you want emblems on them, I'd go with smaller wreaths and crests, but no script. The chrome around the wood grain is too wide. It does come in 1/8", which would more closely match the chrome around the door switch panels.

On the dash, Fleetwood and Brougham would probably look better together, centered over the climate controls/center vents. And if you MUST have something on the passenger side, another small wreath/crest next to or above the Cadillac script above the glove box.

Add things, take them away, move them around....Eventually it'll look the way you like it.

Just a quick tip: Clean any areas you plan on sticking double sided tape to with alcohol or a vinyl safe dewaxer/degreaser. Repeat once or twice, using a clean rag every time. It'll hold WAY better.

brougham
08-17-11, 01:23 AM
The chrome around the woodgrain looks hideous. I would find someone who could stitch the Cadillac logo into the door panels. That would look better then emblems but also cost more. On the back door the Cadillac emblem would look good in that blank area in the wood trim. The Fleetwood on the trunk would look better if it was lower down to match where Cadillac is on the other side. Or maybe better yet put it on the rear 1/4 panel where older Cadillacs always had it?

MoistCabbage
08-17-11, 01:28 AM
On the back door the Cadillac emblem would look good in that blank area in the wood trim.

I was thinking that too, but if you wanted them on the front doors as well, you couldn't put them in that position because of speaker location.

brougham
08-17-11, 01:55 AM
I was thinking that too, but if you wanted them on the front doors as well, you couldn't put them in that position because of speaker location.
That's why I didn't say the front ones could go there too. Altho it's usually just the small speaker there anyway so if it's not getting used with the aftermarket radio I wonder if those back panels would also fit the front? Then you could just get rid of that speaker cover all together and have room for the emblem.

MoistCabbage
08-17-11, 02:08 AM
I was just thinking for symmetry's sake. That's an interesting idea about the rear panels fitting in front. Even if you weren't putting emblems there, it would look cleaner. Are the fronts/rears the same length?

SDCaddyLacky
08-17-11, 03:39 AM
Thanks for all your comments everybody. It's good to hear what other people think, good and bad. I know the chrome strips around the wood trim doesn't look as good as it could. It is a little big, I know, but using exterior plastic chrome is really hard to use and to make look right without using super glue which I was not going to risk doing. I did this to see what others think since eventually I am going to have the chrome trim professionally done. At least I can take it all off and rearrange the parts.

It would be really cool to have the Brougham script stitched into the door panels, but how would one go about doing such a aftermarket job that would look exactly the like the older Broughams? That is why I will be looking to hand paint the metal Brougham script for now to match the burgundy interior so it doesn't look so "out there".

The Cadillac emblem's are all the same size, I did try sticking the emblems on the empty part of the wood trim in the back seat like some said, and it doesn't stand out as much when your sitting inside the car, front and back, you notice it more when it is mounted above the wood trim the way I have it. I could do away with the brougham scripts, play around with different mounting positions, and post more pics later on. But I am leaving for vacation for 3 weeks, so I wont be able to do anything until I get home.

I know the Fleetwood script is not aligned correctly, I totally thought I had it on point with the Cadillac script when I measured it, but it's a little high. Trying to take it off now will not be a good idea, the paint will get ruined where the script is. So it's whatever's for now.

I appreciate idea's, if anyone can show me a photo example of what other things that could be done to spruce up the interior, that would be awesome. :bouncy:

MoistCabbage
08-17-11, 04:17 AM
Trying to take it off now will not be a good idea, the paint will get ruined where the script is. So it's whatever's for now.

I appreciate idea's, if anyone can show me a photo example of what other things that could be done to spruce up the interior, that would be awesome. :bouncy:

What did you use to attach the Fleetwood script to the trunk lid?

I would suggest not doing/adding TOO much to the car. I hate seeing cars that look like the owner bought 3 of everything in the accessory isle and slapped all of it onto the car (and there are A LOT of them where I live). I'm not suggesting your car looks that way,but don't let it get to that point. Moderation is everything, when you (or someone else) sits in your car, the whole package should work together to please the eye, as opposed to individual pieces jumping out, things start to look very out of place that way. Nothing wrong with adding details, but make sure they are just that, details.

Post more pics when you change things around, I'm curious to see how it turns out.

beatz02
08-17-11, 05:39 AM
All those extra ornaments are superfluous. The vehicle's stock interior looks perfectly fine, just as humans look perfectly fine without gold and platinum necklaces, tattoos, and piercings. It's one thing to add racer seat covers, change seat belt colors, add matching floor mats, paint brake calipers, and put the silly skull on the gear shift in a Honda, but in a Cadillac.. No.

The most I'd do is get a wood grain steering wheel (maybe like the one they put in the new model DTS), add a moon roof (I met a guy today with one added and it looked good), and get some nice floor mats with the color Cadillac symbol on them.

SDCaddyLacky
08-17-11, 07:48 AM
Personally I love the interiors of the 80-92 Broughams one of my all time favs, the 93-96 FWB's interior need help bad IMO, so whatever I can do to at least make it a little bit nicer to look at on the inside, I'm going to do just that. The exterior is fine the way it is, I am done with adding anything else to it.

I might just take the emblem and wreath and mount it again on the empty part of the wood trim both front and rear door panels. The front upper door panel speakers don't work, or I believe they're not connected, I think somebody adding new speakers at one point, because only the lower speakers work. So I will see if mounting them where the speaker panel goes will look nice.

I know for a fact having chrome trim around the wood trim looks way better on these cars when done professionally, someone on this forum had his done awhile back, but I forgot his screen name.

Cadillacboy
08-17-11, 01:07 PM
I like it in general but still I think you should have not used "crest" logo onto the leather panels , may be you could add these logos just behind the power window buttons , Fleetwood Brougham scripts in the center console is fairly good but there is a huge gap between Fleetwood and Brougham scripts , they should be located very close but that's all personal preferences you know lol

Well, you can also use 1980-92's taillight emblems somewhere on your car

vonVeezelsnider
08-17-11, 10:20 PM
I've been kicking around how I want to jazz up the interior of the Fleetwood Brougham I will no doubt eventually find. Conservative and restrained is the way to go in my eyes. Only a few things can really be added to increase the visual appeal of the car before it looks forced. I picked up one of those "5.7 Liter V8" badges from the 1991-92 models for the other side of the trunklid, a mini 1/2 inch tall crest for next to the "Cadillac" script on the face of the dash, and two of the sail panel adhesive wreath/crests for the blank woodgrain spot in front of the rear interior door handle on either side of the car. The presidential limousines of this generation had a similar application of the Cadillac logo on either rear door.

CBodyFan
08-17-11, 10:55 PM
The chrome strip around the woodgrain door panel would look ok if: 1) it were much thinner, and 2) you hide the seam where the two ends come together in a less obvious location. Perhaps the lower, right hand corner of the wood grain?

The emblems on the door panel above the woodgrain would look fine if you could find a way to depress them into the padding. Cadillac would have done it that way at the factory. Just having the chrome stuck on the vinyl just looks, well, stuck on.

The Fleetwood Brougham script on the dash is out of proportion to the glove box door Cadillac script. Too big. And the script should be placed together: "Fleetwwod Brougham".

The door lock wreathes..no, looks too Pep Boys.

On the trunk lid it should read "Fleetwood Brougham" in script together on the left and remove the square "Brougham" from under the "Cadillac" script. Having the Fleetwood and Brougham emblems sperated looks disjointed.

Experiment and have fun.

cadillac kevin
08-17-11, 11:16 PM
actually the door lock wreaths were a factory (dealer?) add on, just not on the 93-96 fwb's.

outsider
08-18-11, 08:05 AM
i added wreaths to my 87 and i love them.

I kinda wanna get some V's for my 69's doors. haha. Sven, hook a brother up ;)

sven914
08-18-11, 08:17 AM
I don't got any, but they come from an '80's Sedan de Ville with a vinyl top. You just need to cut off the pegs and file them smooth.

AElayyat
08-18-11, 08:42 AM
why?

does not look good what you did to the interior.

the caddy wreath around the lock looks good, the 'fleetwood' emblem on the trunk lid is not too bad. should have stopped there...

robb257731
08-18-11, 09:19 AM
At the end of the day it's your car, and you can do whatever you like with it.

Personally, I think the flowy Fleetwood script added to the dash looks like hell. If 'fleetwood' had been available in the actual 93-96 Brougham font, then it would look okay. The stock interior is bland, yes, but it goes with the overall look of the car. Putting old badging on a car that was made to look 'modern' just makes it look obvious that you stuck it on there.

brougham
08-19-11, 01:58 AM
I was just thinking for symmetry's sake. That's an interesting idea about the rear panels fitting in front. Even if you weren't putting emblems there, it would look cleaner. Are the fronts/rears the same length?

I don't know if the fronts and backs are the same size or not but they look pretty much the same. I bet if they are there's something stupid to them like a different shape on the back side of them that won't let you mix them around.

To me the the emblems stuck on the door panels stick out way too much. If they were in the wood area they wouldn't be as noticable but that's good because it would look more like they actually came that way.

brougham
08-19-11, 02:03 AM
actually the door lock wreaths were a factory (dealer?) add on, just not on the 93-96 fwb's.

They were never factory, just a common mod because they fit so well there. They're a factory part just not for that location.

Stingroo
08-19-11, 07:52 AM
Pro tip: measure the chrome trim lengths you need, cut them, and cut 45 degree angles at the top and bottom of them to get them to line up, instead of trying to bend it straight.

SDCaddyLacky
09-07-11, 05:25 AM
Thanks Singroo for that tip. Bending the damn thing is a bitch.

I thought I would give you guys a heads up on the interior. I played around a bit yesterday on the emblem and wreath regarding it being located on the leather part of the door panel. After mounting the wreath/emblem on the wood grain where the speakers go, it looks much better than how it was before. I did this for both front and rear door panels. I removed the "Brougham" scripts on the rears, and placed it right below the Caddy wreath on the woodgrain (speaker location if the rears had door mounted speakers). The front doors, I left out the "Brougham" script since it's already on the dash. I will most likely remove the chrome trim, but for now I like it even if it is too big. In time I will get it done right with less fat.

These cars do look really nice with a nice thin piece of chrome trim around the woodgrain on the door panels, it was Cadillacboy that his Fleetwood done right! What up mahn!

I will post pics later today/night.

SDCaddyLacky
09-23-11, 06:37 AM
Oh man, I completely forgot about this thread. oooops my bad..I recently took pics of my rearrangement of the scripts and emblems. Here's some new pics, I took the photo's at night so the flash was little too bright which doesn't show as much detail, will take some better ones tomorrow under the clear blue sky's.

As you can see, I removed the chrome trim to see how it looks, the emblem doesn't like to stick all too well on the front door speaker cover, it's on there, but with slightest touch, it can easily come off. The passenger door panel, I left the chrome on to see what looks better. The panel is sorta bulged out for some reason, and not completely flat so that's why the trim looks a little lumpy.

Moving the "Fleetwood Brougham" script in the center of the dash is an improvement, and I like it much better than how was mounted before.

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sven914
09-23-11, 07:45 AM
It just doesn't look right, having a metal emblem tacked to the wood grain. The ones on the rear doors also need wreaths (or V's) and they're faded as shit.

Maybe if you got some flat, plastic crests from a late '90's FWD (before the redesign) or from an '80's RWD map light, they would look a little better on the interior. You could also get a smaller "Fleetwood Brougham" glove box script and glue it to the CD tray, and that would look a little more factory than what's there now.

SDCaddyLacky
09-23-11, 11:57 AM
I got extra Caddy wreaths, but they have pins on the back of them that I need to cut off. I will try to hit up a local junkyard and look for smaller Caddy trim. I do like the old school Cadillac map lights. Good idea's, thanks man.