: 2007 Escalade ESV--Stalling/rough idle issues



McGowansix
08-15-11, 01:17 AM
I own a 2007 Cadillac Escalade ESV with 43,000 miles and have experienced some of the same stalling and rough idle issues that Iíve read elsewhere on this site. On our way to a Father's Day vacation in June, our Escalade idled rough on two occasions while at a stop, but ran fine at speed on the highway. Twenty minutes later it died completely, on an uphill grade, in the middle of the highway. Just slowed to a stop and would not move. The Service StabiliTrak / Traction Control disabled message came on, but no check engine light. The engine died and I had to roll down the steep grade backwards, with no power, to get onto the shoulder and out of traffic lanes. I tried to restart it and it would crank/turn over but wouldn't fire.
Our Cadillac was towed to the nearest dealership and spent 26 days there for repair. The technician tested it for a couple of days and told me nothing was wrong with it and that I would have to pick it up...that it started every time they tried. I asked if they'd taken it on the highway for a test drive and was told they hadn't done that. I had a 180 mile round trip to make just to pick up the Escalade and return home, so I asked that they take it on a lengthy test drive to be sure it was ok before I picked it up. He said they'd complete the test drive and call me back in 30 minutes. 2 1/2 hours later I got a call back...it had died on him and had to be towed back to the dealership.

To fast-forward through the next 3 weeks:
First diagnosis-- Failure of Camshaft actuator
Result: Replaced, but failed test drive @ had to be towed

Second diagnosis-- Bad PCM
Result: Replaced PCM, but failed test drive @ had to be towed

Third diagnosis--Magnetic component of camshaft actuator was bad
Result: Replaced magnetic component and did "back to back" oil changes to clean out oil passages. The vehicle has not stalled since this was completed, but seems to lack power now. Still has rough idle intermittently, but not very often.

I bought this as a Certified Pre-Owned Cadillac in October of last year with 32,625 miles on it. The Service Manager claimed lack of maintenance by the previous owner caused the clogged oil passage issues, but records show all required maintenance had been completed at the original dealership.
Is there more to this oil passage issue than we're aware of? I asked how this clogged oil passage issue could be avoided in the future. The Service Manager says the GM Oil Life Monitor system cannot be trusted and that I should change the oil when the monitor says there is still 30%-40% of the oil life remaining. Has anyone else been told this?
I'm still dealing with this and other issues with this Cadillac. As a first-time owner, Iím very disappointed with my Cadillac experience at this point. It has spent 31 days in service in less than 10 months of ownership and I still have to return it to complete an ongoing repair. It's still covered by the bumper to bumper warranty now, but that expires in a few days. I'm concerned about the reliability of this vehicle now and I still have years and years of payments remaining. I've had a file open with Cadillac Customer Assistance for the past 6 weeks, but my representative has been less than helpful...definitely not the Cadillac Customer Satisfaction experience that I've heard about and expected.
I apologize for the length of the post, but I've been dealing with these issues for the past 8 weeks and I'm very frustrated. I actually have a document that I've been updating as I've gone through this process...it's up to 13 pages, so this could have been even worse :-)

P.S. I'm attempting to locate a post that I read several weeks ago on this site. It mentioned problems with certain 2007 Escalade engines and the poster claimed to have a list of VIN #'s that were affected. I asked Cadillac Customer Assistance about this, but she said she had no knowledge of it. I'd like to read through those posts again, but I haven't been able to locate that post, yet. If anyone could direct me to that or other similar posts I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Naf
08-15-11, 04:17 AM
Does your TB work? That will cause the same issues if it is malfunctioning. It may even just be full of gunk.

In regards to the oil life, it is calculated so dont trust it too much, know when the last service was done and add the appropriate miles to it. I change mine every 5000km due to excessive heat and my heavy hauling.

Most likely the oil vapor has fouled your tb to the point that it would function smoothly that will cause a no restart and the service stability to pop up.

Spend an afternoon with a can of carb cleaner and a nice clean rag. Spray the tb and wipe the excess off. Then start the engine with the intake tube off and spray WD40 into the tb, you may have to raise the RPM to about 1500. DO NOT rev it any higher nor heavily...

Let us know

McGowansix
08-15-11, 08:18 AM
The Service Technician had mentioned that they may clean the throttle body when it was idling rough, but I'm not sure that it was done. He mentioned that during the first 3 1/2 week stay in the shop, but it was right after they replaced the PCM and he said that also could be causing it. The Escalade stalled and died again on a subsequent test drive, so they continued their troubleshooting, but I'm not sure if they ever cleaned the throttle body or not. The Service Tech that told me this no longer works there, but I'll try to find out and if they didn't clean it, I'll take care of it. Thanks.

Cadillac Cust Svc
08-17-11, 10:33 AM
McGowansix, if you purchased the vehicle as a Certified Pre Owned Cadillac in October of last year you should have the 6 year 100,000 mile warranty that comes with it. This warranty starts with the original in service date which with a 2007 could be sometime in 2006. I would confirm this with your dealer by having them check your warranty status with your VIN, or you can send it to me and I can do it for you. I'm sorry to hear about your ongoing issues with the vehicle. If you would like I could look over your case to make sure it's being handled properly. All I would need is for you to send me your case number and I can check it from there. I hope this helps you.

Jeff Morris, Cadillac Customer Service

McGowansix
08-19-11, 09:35 AM
Thank you, Jeff. I would LOVE to have someone review this case. In fact, I called Cadillac Customer Service last week and requested this, but didn't get anywhere. Should I post the case number here or do you have another contact method that I should use? If you're willing, I'd really like to speak to you on the phone at some point, so that I can detail exactly what has and has not happened up to this point. Thanks in advance.

Cadillac Cust Svc
08-19-11, 10:15 AM
You can direct message me to continue the conversation privately if you'd like or you can post publicly. Whichever method you feel the safest with is fine with me.

Jeff Morris, Cadillac Customer Service

ldyoung71
06-04-13, 03:33 PM
My vehicle is now having similar issues. I have towed my enclosed trailer the last two weeks. The first weekend I towed my trailer for an hour, rode our motorcycles, loaded back up and headed home. Drove fine on the highway on the way there. Coming back, I drove one hour on the highway, got off and stopped at the stop light. It started idling really rough. Didn't die because I put it in neutral. Wrote it off as a one time deal. Fast forward to yesterday. Same trip. Got off the highway from the trip. It started idling rough. Threw it in neutral and gave it gas. Got to the second stop light and it dropped idle, then stalled. Would not start back up. Had it towed to the dealer. Dealer has the vehicle now and says they cannot replicate the problem and do not show any codes from the computer. The problem is that I don't have a problem during normal usage. It only appears to be happening after I tow. BTW, I am towing about 4,000 lbs. My fear is that I am going to have this issue again while towing and out of warranty. I don't want to be towing my family and we get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Can anyone from Cadillac service help me? My VIN is 1GYFK63857R430261.

Punmax
06-05-13, 03:11 AM
This should be a known issue by now. My '07 experienced similar symptoms as you guys. It would idle very rough, and eventually stall. I had to keep the accelerator pressed down when at a full stop otherwise it would die and not want to start again.

My dealership replaced my wires, plugs, fuel filter, camshaft actuator (or sensor, can't remember), and cleaned the throttle body. These repairs were done over 2-3 visits since they would just fix one thing and send me on my way. My truck has not stalled or idled rough since.

Edit: Found my post that I made when I was dealing with this issue:


My truck had a very rough idle couple of weeks ago. It also had stalling problems. The dealership did an injector cleaning service, throttle body cleaning service, replaced the CAM sensor, and installed a new battery. It never stalled after that, but some of the roughness did go away.

Try cleaning out your throttle body/injectors.

Edit: Some of my spark plugs/wires also failed last week. Replaced them all, and now it idles pretty damn good. They also did another tune up service, so that probably helped, too.

Cadillac Cust Svc
06-05-13, 10:13 AM
My vehicle is now having similar issues. I have towed my enclosed trailer the last two weeks. The first weekend I towed my trailer for an hour, rode our motorcycles, loaded back up and headed home. Drove fine on the highway on the way there. Coming back, I drove one hour on the highway, got off and stopped at the stop light. It started idling really rough. Didn't die because I put it in neutral. Wrote it off as a one time deal. Fast forward to yesterday. Same trip. Got off the highway from the trip. It started idling rough. Threw it in neutral and gave it gas. Got to the second stop light and it dropped idle, then stalled. Would not start back up. Had it towed to the dealer. Dealer has the vehicle now and says they cannot replicate the problem and do not show any codes from the computer. The problem is that I don't have a problem during normal usage. It only appears to be happening after I tow. BTW, I am towing about 4,000 lbs. My fear is that I am going to have this issue again while towing and out of warranty. I don't want to be towing my family and we get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Can anyone from Cadillac service help me? My VIN is 1GYFK63857R430261.

Hello ldyoung71,

After looking into your VIN and seeing towing capacities for your vehicle, I see you are well within the weight limits. Can you please provide me with the name and location of the dealership which you had your vehicle at?

Sincerely,

Laura M.
Cadillac Customer Service

ldyoung71
06-05-13, 12:38 PM
Laura,

My vehicle is at Bommarito Cadillac, Interstate 70 Service Road North, St. Peters, MO. Phone number is 636-928-2300. The dealer is usually good about taking care of me, but on this issue they are not really able to do anything for me they said. My problem is it is going to happen again. And I'm worried. It seems to only occur when towing. So they can't get it to happen again. Can you tell me what the next steps are or if you can get them to help me?? They won't even give me a rental since it hasn't been determined there is an issue. Any help would be appreciated! Is there also a way I can get a hold of you to discuss via IM or on the phone?

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Laura,

I just wanted to make sure you got my message..
My vehicle is at Bommarito Cadillac, Interstate 70 Service Road North, St. Peters, MO. Phone number is 636-928-2300. The dealer is usually good about taking care of me, but on this issue they are not really able to do anything for me they said. My problem is it is going to happen again. And I'm worried. It seems to only occur when towing. So they can't get it to happen again. Can you tell me what the next steps are or if you can get them to help me?? They won't even give me a rental since it hasn't been determined there is an issue. Any help would be appreciated! Is there also a way I can get a hold of you to discuss via IM or on the phone?

Cadillac Cust Svc
06-05-13, 02:29 PM
Laura,

My vehicle is at Bommarito Cadillac, Interstate 70 Service Road North, St. Peters, MO. Phone number is 636-928-2300. The dealer is usually good about taking care of me, but on this issue they are not really able to do anything for me they said. My problem is it is going to happen again. And I'm worried. It seems to only occur when towing. So they can't get it to happen again. Can you tell me what the next steps are or if you can get them to help me?? They won't even give me a rental since it hasn't been determined there is an issue. Any help would be appreciated! Is there also a way I can get a hold of you to discuss via IM or on the phone?

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Laura,

I just wanted to make sure you got my message..
My vehicle is at Bommarito Cadillac, Interstate 70 Service Road North, St. Peters, MO. Phone number is 636-928-2300. The dealer is usually good about taking care of me, but on this issue they are not really able to do anything for me they said. My problem is it is going to happen again. And I'm worried. It seems to only occur when towing. So they can't get it to happen again. Can you tell me what the next steps are or if you can get them to help me?? They won't even give me a rental since it hasn't been determined there is an issue. Any help would be appreciated! Is there also a way I can get a hold of you to discuss via IM or on the phone?

Hello ldyoung71,

Thanks for the quick response. I did receive your message. I am able to be contacted via private message on this forum to further discuss issues and concerns.

Sincerely,

Laura M.
Cadillac Customer Service

RichieRich
06-07-13, 09:24 PM
This exact same thing happened to me. No one could figure it out. It ended up being a clogged oiled filter. I used Lucas in the oil and it was a combination of the thick Lucas (which is know to clog filters) and a faulty AC Delco filter... That was it... The dealer did the first 2 things that they did with your truck. Then I was told my engine passengers were clogged and I need an engine. I had the truck towed home. A friend of mine that was around about a month before the problems started and right when I changed the oil and added Lucas said did you change the oil because Lucas will clog and ruin a filer and make it appear that the oil passages are clogged. I changed the oil and filer and it was fixed.... Cadillac also refunded $1600 that they charged me for changing parts that didn't need to be changed. I know lots of guys use Lucas and I'm not trashing it. Just passing on my experience.

ldyoung71
06-08-13, 03:50 AM
RichieRich,

Interesting. I got no results from the dealer and decided to just do some routine maintenance. Change air filter, new battery, bought new plugs, wires, and camshaft position sensorm clean throttle body, clean mass air flow sensor. I attempted to do the camshaft position sensor myself, but unfortunately I have the wiring harness that has 3 bolts. I can't get the third one out. Looks like the crankshaft pulley is in the way. I also added Lucas Injector cleaner to the tank. But I just added that so that was not the problem for me. The bad thing for me is that it has only happened while towing for a couple hours. Funny thing is its only on the trips home while towing that I ever noticed idle issues. I drive it every day and never does the idle drop low or anything. Weird huh?? I will let you know what I find out. Or if it acts up again. It just makes me nervous to drive now, where as before I was confident driving it.

ldyoung71
06-12-13, 12:20 AM
Okay. I thought by doing all the items listed in my previous post in this thread that my problems would go away. Low and behold I go to tow my motorcycles today and it almost dies when we stop at the light on the off ramp. I kept giving it throttle and it would barely move when the light turned green. Instead of taking the kids riding, I drove back to the dealership. The service guy rode with me. He took his device and hooked it to the computer. No problems occur until the transmission temp registers 200+ degrees and we come to a stop from being on the highway. It almost dies and no throttle response. He said hes going to call a tech hot line tomorrow. Really frustrating. I'm scared to drive it anymore while towing our trailer. Any other clues? Although people on here say this is a known issue, the dealer says they cant find any TSBs that mention this.

Punmax
06-13-13, 06:11 AM
Hmm, interesting. Did they check the fuel pressure?

ldyoung71
06-13-13, 09:34 AM
It was closing time. The service advisor rode with me in the truck, noticed the problem and said he would get back with me after discussing with someone on their tech line. I waited til mid afternoon and didn't get a response from the dealer and called the customer care line. They were able to get a hold of the dealer at that time. Customer care said they talked to the SA and he told them what I already had said... witnessed rough idle and almost stalling after getting off highway but no codes came up. Customer care assigned a district specialist to the case and I should be getting a call today. Based on some of the threads here, I am a little skeptical about the specialist calling within 24 hours. I hope they prove me wrong. I just want it fixed. I can not make any family vacation, riding, or camping plans until this is fixed. What needs to happen is the dealer just needs to drive my truck for about 90 minutes on the highway with my trailer and the computer hooked up and then get off the highway ramp. It will die for sure. They need to drive it till the transmission temperature gets over 200+. I would imagine a code will be generated. Problem is I don't think the dealer wants to dedicate a tech to my truck on a drive that long. At least that is what I was told... "try to get it to act up and then bring it in right before".. which is what I did. The problem is trying to "time" it to die at the exact location of the dealer, etc. As I stated to the dealer, this is supposed to be the king of SUV's for towing. One of the main reasons I got it. If it can't tow an enclosed trailer with not even half the allotted towing capacity, then what is it good for? Love the vehicle. Just want to be able to use it for everything I need it for. AKA Sport Utility Vehicle. lol.

ldyoung71
06-21-13, 01:24 PM
At the dealer today. They hooked up a fuel pressure gauge and service advisor took a trip with me. It idled rough after exiting the highway, fuel pressure stayed the same. No issues at all with fuel pressure. We are still at a loss. He did notive the rough idel and "almost" stalling and also noticed the gas pedal got hard. He indicated could be a vacuum issue. Technician indicated that the problem could be due to a sticky valve that only occurs when vehicle gets hot enough. He suggested using some type of cleaner to remove the carbon buildup. So still no real answers. Just occurs while we tow our trailer which is only 4k lbs.

Cadillac Cust Svc
06-21-13, 10:37 PM
At the dealer today. They hooked up a fuel pressure gauge and service advisor took a trip with me. It idled rough after exiting the highway, fuel pressure stayed the same. No issues at all with fuel pressure. We are still at a loss. He did notive the rough idel and "almost" stalling and also noticed the gas pedal got hard. He indicated could be a vacuum issue. Technician indicated that the problem could be due to a sticky valve that only occurs when vehicle gets hot enough. He suggested using some type of cleaner to remove the carbon buildup. So still no real answers. Just occurs while we tow our trailer which is only 4k lbs.

Hello Idyoung71,

I apologize that they still haven’t been able to get you a resolution concerning your Escalade. Thank you for keeping us updated about the situation. I do see that Robyn is exhausting her efforts in trying to find a resolution for you. Please continue to keep us updated on the situation! Thank you very much for your time.

Gregory W.
Cadillac Customer Care

bassaholics
08-25-13, 02:36 PM
was there ever a solution to this problem?????? I also have a 2007 escalade higher mileage, 180,000, and experienced the same stalling problems this weekend while towing my bass boat to the river. VERY FRUSTRATING AS WE STALLED 6 TIMES!!! After the first stall we called a tow truck to pick us up assuming it was the fuel pump that needed to be replaced. When the tow truck arrived it started and we drove it to a shop where we replaced the fuel pump. We left for our trip after having the work done and the problem continued when we hit the desert as we would come to a stop sign or light it would stall. every time we could get it restarted after 30-60 minutes of cranking on it and pulling out and putting back in the fuel pump relay.

This made for a horrible trip and obviously now I don't have any confidence driving the vehicle. I have read all the posts on this forum and it seems nobody has found a solution to the problem?????? Can you help otherwise I will just sell this and buy something else!!!

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was there ever a solution to this problem?????? I also have a 2007 escalade higher mileage, 180,000, and experienced the same stalling problems this weekend while towing my bass boat to the river. VERY FRUSTRATING AS WE STALLED 6 TIMES!!! After the first stall we called a tow truck to pick us up assuming it was the fuel pump that needed to be replaced. When the tow truck arrived it started and we drove it to a shop where we replaced the fuel pump. We left for our trip after having the work done and the problem continued when we hit the desert as we would come to a stop sign or light it would stall. every time we could get it restarted after 30-60 minutes of cranking on it and pulling out and putting back in the fuel pump relay.

This made for a horrible trip and obviously now I don't have any confidence driving the vehicle. I have read all the posts on this forum and it seems nobody has found a solution to the problem?????? Can you help otherwise I will just sell this and buy something else!!!

Cadillac Cust Svc
08-26-13, 08:51 AM
was there ever a solution to this problem?????? I also have a 2007 escalade higher mileage, 180,000, and experienced the same stalling problems this weekend while towing my bass boat to the river. VERY FRUSTRATING AS WE STALLED 6 TIMES!!! After the first stall we called a tow truck to pick us up assuming it was the fuel pump that needed to be replaced. When the tow truck arrived it started and we drove it to a shop where we replaced the fuel pump. We left for our trip after having the work done and the problem continued when we hit the desert as we would come to a stop sign or light it would stall. every time we could get it restarted after 30-60 minutes of cranking on it and pulling out and putting back in the fuel pump relay.

This made for a horrible trip and obviously now I don't have any confidence driving the vehicle. I have read all the posts on this forum and it seems nobody has found a solution to the problem?????? Can you help otherwise I will just sell this and buy something else!!!

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was there ever a solution to this problem?????? I also have a 2007 escalade higher mileage, 180,000, and experienced the same stalling problems this weekend while towing my bass boat to the river. VERY FRUSTRATING AS WE STALLED 6 TIMES!!! After the first stall we called a tow truck to pick us up assuming it was the fuel pump that needed to be replaced. When the tow truck arrived it started and we drove it to a shop where we replaced the fuel pump. We left for our trip after having the work done and the problem continued when we hit the desert as we would come to a stop sign or light it would stall. every time we could get it restarted after 30-60 minutes of cranking on it and pulling out and putting back in the fuel pump relay.

This made for a horrible trip and obviously now I don't have any confidence driving the vehicle. I have read all the posts on this forum and it seems nobody has found a solution to the problem?????? Can you help otherwise I will just sell this and buy something else!!!

Hello bassaholics,

I am sorry to hear of your Escalade stalling 6 times. I understand your frustration with this situation and am sorry it ruined your trip. I would like to look into this concern for you and further discuss your situation. Please reach out via private message and include your contact information, VIN and current mileage.

Sincerely,

Laura M.
Cadillac Customer Care

Goldwing
08-27-13, 11:44 AM
I have a 07- EXT and have same issues of
starting engine runs as if missing cyclinders and then corrects itself, some time works well.
Towing a travel trailer is another issue -display shows -Service Stabiletrack and Service Traction Control and this happens when going down hill and stay's on. will shutoff and happen again. Also check engine light comes on at times and shut's off.
So last week coming home towing travel trailer from NC to Ontario the display showed above and eng. light come on . Went to get off at service centre in On. the truck just died. Engine turned over and no start, after all truck was on ramp no one could get around had a tow truck come and pull us clear . Dropped trailer truck taken into a Cadillac dealer , truck started for them!!! They did a Driveabilty Diagnosis and codes p0328 -Knocksensor and p0011 - intake cam sensor performance -codes set all pass and work fine. Dealer could not find a problem. Drove home and still starting issue and display still showing.
This vehicle is unsafe on the road as it could die at any tie and not get out of way from being HIT !
How do I deal with a unsafe vehicle ? Guess I should hire a lawyer or dispose of it for a Toyota . or better yet a Ford.
I had engine rebuilt at 80km due to piston rings gone and blowing oil
Spending this kind of money for a nice truck has been a real disappointment to me- Wife calls it a Lemon Truck!!
James
Kitchener,Ontario

GNENSEC
09-01-13, 05:20 PM
Based on the responses below and the cadillac customer service over the phone, in addition to pm messages.

Cadillac is not sticking behind it's product.

SOLD MINE YESTERDAY, THANK GOD, NO WORRIES ANYMORE!!!!

GM/CADILLAC SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED, AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY NEEDED BAIL OUT MONEY.

BOUGHT A LINCOLN/FORD PRODUCT, WHAT A GREAT DAY!!!

Cadillac Cust Svc
09-01-13, 07:02 PM
Based on the responses below and the cadillac customer service over the phone, in addition to pm messages.

Cadillac is not sticking behind it's product.

SOLD MINE YESTERDAY, THANK GOD, NO WORRIES ANYMORE!!!!

GM/CADILLAC SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED, AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY NEEDED BAIL OUT MONEY.

BOUGHT A LINCOLN/FORD PRODUCT, WHAT A GREAT DAY!!!
Hello GNENSEC,

I am so sorry you feel that way based on your situation. General Motors takes comments like this very seriously, and I have documented your comments. General Motors relies heavily on loyal customers and I hope one day we may be given the opportunity to earn your business again. Please feel free to private message us if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you very much for your time.

Gregory W.
Cadillac Customer Care

neelfryer
12-04-13, 11:27 AM
well -- i have just had my first experience of this issue -- have a 2007 ESV --that i bought with 40k miles on it and it now has 106k -- after driving for about 45minutes on the freeway it stalled at a light and wouldn't restart

it was turning over and showing full power -- i had replaced the battery the day before so i knew that power was not the issue -- lights were bright --it just felt like it wasn't getting gas

i even thought Öhey, did i run out of gas? -- but when the car was trying to turn over it would show me the gauges and the gas gauge showed i had some gas -- not a lot but about 1/8th of a tank -- and i realized that hadn't yet gotten a "low gas" warning on my banner

so we flat bedded it to my shop -- i restore old cars -- and it was after 6 on a sunday so i wasn't going to the dealer with the car

later that night the guy who runs my shop -- an excellent mechanic in his own right -- texted me to say -- the car starts fine -- no problems

next day -- some thing -- they couldn't replicate the problem -- i had already been on here and read everything i could about this issue

we decided to take out the gas tank and replace the fuel pump -- we found that it was the original fuel pump -- and we think that 106k miles is a good run for a rule pump

they also think that the sending unit that is attached to the pump may have just started to go and that the car had less gas than it was reporting -- so that it should have told me i was out of gas but didn't

and they think that when the car got loaded on the flat bed that it was tipped up and down and that motion probably freed the gas a bit and sent gas through the lines which caused it to start

after replacing the pump -- wet urned the car on and it immediately chimed and said "low gas" -- so i filled it -- i am very nervous that this problem may be a ghost in the machine that i am just at the beginning of chasing

the throttle body and the relay (which is under the hood --not in or near the tank) are also both original to the car and the parts store did not have a relay in stock or i would have replaced it too -- we did do gas filter and even did the front brakes while we were at it

in fact i just replaced all 4 tires -- which are 22's and the battery -- so i have spent a fair amount on this car in the last week

i truly love this truck BUT my wife is getting nervous about its reliability -- we have 3 kids and she carpools all the time

that story of the 07 that stalled on the freeway and had to be backed down to exit the freeway is my nightmare

it sucks to feel nervous that your wife and kids are gonna get stuck somewhere with the car

anyone have any further insight ?

sadly the folks who were posting about these issues disappeared without fully finishing their tales -- well some did -- the one guy sold his truck but i am starting to think about replacing everything i can -- throttle body and relays etc.

my car has never had a rough idle issue -- so when it stalled on me -- it literally felt like it ran out of gas -- so i'm hoping that the pump and filter will fix this

fingers tightly crossed

i also just had my interior guy look through the truck -- i am having him estimate how much to re-do all the seats and the carpet -- so i ma seriously considering spending deep money to make this truck gorgeous again -- my kids have turned a beige carpet brown in spots -- it cleans up ok but i'm a car freak and i love this truck -- i wanna spend the money on it

but i need to know that with over 100k in miles that i can still rely on it -- thoughts?

MRANT212
01-09-14, 07:18 AM
117k miles on my 07 and this just happened this morning. Now that I read thru all these posts I guess I'm prepared as much as I can bringing my my Escalade to the dealership this morning. My wife pulled up to a stop sign...stabilitrak light came on and the truck shut down. My dealership is excellent I'm just concerned as to how they are going to diagnose this.

Mixup52
03-21-14, 08:43 PM
I personally don't think its the gas, I have a dual fuel system, Regular gas and I had it converted to run on CNG. With either of the gas, it will stall out after freeway driving. My ESV will stall when I come to a stop after I have driven 15-20 minutes on the freeway. I am going to get my oil changed and see if that helps out. I will report back tomorrow.

Thanks

ticktock
03-21-14, 09:35 PM
See my post here http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-escalade-ext-esv-forum-2007/314250-07-escalade-stalling-when-hot.html#post12170449 regarding my experience with this. I have had no problems since.

Mixup52
03-25-14, 12:52 AM
Changing the oil didn't fix anything. I think I am going to go with a lighter weight oil next time. I am going to have my camshaft actuator replaced. I also thought about getting the VVT disable so it doesn't advance the timing so far while on the freeway.

RK2007
03-29-14, 01:07 PM
My 2000 Cadillac Escalade Stalls Once In Awhile.
I replaced the Cam Sensor and It Still Stalls Once In A While. I Brought It
To Another Mechanic, And He Replaced The Fuel Pump, The Fuel Filter,
The Fuel Relay Breaker, And..... A Small Plastic Wire Component
That Plugs Into The Fuel Pump. He Showed Me That The Wire Component
Was The Culprit Most Likely.Of The Four Wires, One Was Overheating,
And A little Burned.
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Mixup52
03-30-14, 12:18 PM
Reporting back about this. After I got my oil changed I drove on the freeway and there was no change when pulling off the freeway and coming to a stop. It was still stalling. I had decided that I was going to change the camshaft actuator, there was a dealer kinda local to me (40 min) that had it in stock. As I was driving to pick up the actuator, I was thinking about the oil passages that run through the actuator. The reason it stalls is that the timing is advancing at higher speeds/RPM's and gets stuck there when you come to a stop. If your oil is not clean the passages get clogged, or if you don't have enough oil, you don't have the required oil pressure.

As I was driving, I was thinking that I am going to try and get the oil pressure up with this new clean oil and see if it will clean/clear the passages. The way I did this was, as I was getting on the freeway with no one in front of me, I gave it full throttle until I was going about 80 MPH (Speed limit is 75). Then just normal freeway driving speeds of about 35-40 minutes to pick up the part, as I exited off the freeway expecting it to stall and die. So when I came to a stop and to my surprise, it did not stall or give the hint of stalling!!

I picked up the camshaft actuator asking if it could be returned if I didn't open, just in case it was a fluke this one time of not stalling. So I drove home with the new camshaft actuator, this time driving like I would normally drive of getting on the freeway, exit the freeway and come to a complete stop, still running and not a hint of stalling out.

I honestly think this cleaned out the passages that support the camshaft actuator cause now I am not stalling after driving on the freeway.

I hope this helps, if it does or doesn't please let the community know. I will give another update in a week or so with how my truck is running.

What I did was I had my oil and filter changed with 5-30 full synthetic and then ran it at full throttle up to about 80 MPH, You could try the full throttle a couple time if you think you need to needs more then one session of opening it up and cause its fun.

I have a 2007 ESV with a 6.2 liter and 147k miles on it.

Mixup52
06-12-14, 01:51 PM
Update 6.12.14. With the oil changed at the end of March and my full throttle experience of cleaning/clearing out the passages. I am here to report that I have not had any issues with it stalling out in the 2 and half months since doing that. It worked for me but YMMV. So it might and might not fix your issue, it did for me.

Thanks and good luck!

kfaye
06-25-14, 10:58 AM
I am having the same issue. However, I am towing a 25ft travel trailer across country with two kids. First dealership(Cody, WY) changed out the fuel pump. Second (Billings, MT) said nothing was wrong. Going to another dealership today (Bismarck, ND) Very stressful when you aren't even close to home.

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I am having the same issue. However, I am towing a 25ft travel trailer across country with two kids. First dealership(Cody, WY) changed out the fuel pump. Second (Billings, MT) said nothing was wrong. Going to another dealership today (Bismarck, ND) Very stressful when you aren't even close to home.
I am dropping mine off at Schwan 701-214-4398. If I could get some help from that would be great

kfaye
06-26-14, 07:22 AM
Well, another dealership saying they can't find anything wrong. Just great.

Conrad16
06-26-14, 01:00 PM
I own a 2007 esv and have been having an issue with the vehicle starting and then stalling quickly, today it finally stayed running after about the twentieth try! Any ideas?

Cadillac Cust Svc
06-26-14, 05:02 PM
Well, another dealership saying they can't find anything wrong. Just great.

Hi kfaye,

I received your PM and you should be receiving a response shortly. I look forward to discussing your concerns further.

Austin J.
Cadillac Customer Care

Joelaw1201
07-05-14, 04:16 AM
Hi everyone,
I bought my 2007 ext new in fall 2006, I've treated it like my child, every maintenance, premium fuel, it had never let me down before.
I first ran across this thread as I sat stranded in a gas station in Ft. Lauderdale. I was towing my 23ft boat, it was sunrise, and I had driven through the night from Orlando, about 3 hours with boat.
I ran really low on gas, low enough to make me nervous. As I come off the interstate I notice rough idle, and I give it gas to avoid a stall. I think, I'm about to run out of gas. I pull into station, praising God that we made it. I top it off and it takes, 27 gallons (30 gallon capacity) so I wasn't dry yet. I go to crank it up after fueling, and my heart ache began. It would crank but no spark, no fuel, what's going on? I keep cranking a few times, concerned I'm going to burn up the starter or kill the battery and compound the problem.
I start searching the internet, and ran across these nice people, similarly situated... I'm worried about what to do next, I look through my wallet, I realize AAA expired 3 years before... I called my mechanic on his cell, several friends that also own Cadillacs, no one picks up, cause it's 6am! I'm looking for the fuel filter, there ain't one, it's a sock allegedly, never seen one. I look for fuel pump to whack it with a wrench, maybe that will wake it up, but can't find that either, apparently that's in the tank, under the car, in the frame, I can't get to it. A moderate panic (oxymoron?) sets into me and my wife, as she gives me a disapproving glare, "I told you to stop for gas sooner", I know honey, I'm sorry, you were right, I love you, let me think!
After about 45 minutes, I try it one more time, and boom, it lives! Cranks up! Wife smiles, and I peel out of there. Thinking its a fluke, that was weird, not worried about it.
I get to the marina, detach the boat, drive around town in stop and go traffic, no rough idle, no stalling, no trouble cranking.

We launch the boat, and we are gone for 4 days, leaving truck and trailer at the marina.

On return, crispy from the sun, and relaxed from the boating diversion, I had almost forgot our mechanical issues from before. I go to crank the truck, no problem, but I notice the electric seats aren't working, AC compressor won't kick on, traction control light comes on for a sec. It runs a bit, and those systems come online, not worried, figure low batt, we're ok... Trailer the boat, and head to Turnpike north, no issues. About Ft. Pierce (1/2 way) we need gas again (not gonna run it low cause My wife, thinks I caused the problem with low fuel some how) heck maybe she's right, plus bathroom break sounds nice. As I decelerate at the service plaza, I am coasting toward fuel pumps, and DEAD. Engine stops, we come to a stop. Fortunately we do not get rear ended, and the three truckers behind us, who we are now preventing from reaching their gas, are non violent, and only honk their air horns, at one point in unison.
Wife and I are waving them by, but they don't fit to drive around us, we have essentially, interrupted interstate commerce, goods, Medicine, food will not make it because these increasingly angry truckers can't fuel up...
I step out, and raise the hood, which now acts as a white flag, a symbol they understand, they basically backed up and kept going northbound.
We sit, blocking traffic, though smaller vehicles can squeeze past us to the pumps. Hood is up flashers on.
After about 15 minutes a "Road Ranger" descends upon us like a greasy Angel, he says "you know you can't park there?" Hysterical, we have a good laugh! He says, "let me pull you out of the way" so interstate commerce can resume (I'm thinking in my head). As he gets his truck lined up and straps attached... A State Trooper pulls in behind us, with his lights on... As he walks up to my window, I said "howdy! Is there a problem officer?" Before he can say anything, Road Ranger hollers, put it in neutral, trooper sees issue is solved, walks away never saying a word. We get towed to a parking spot. Safe for now...

Same issue, cranks strong, seems like no fuel reaching the spark. I have about 1/2 a tank, Road Ranger says, I bet you're outa gas. I'm like, no I have half a tank... So he gets a gas can, and says, let me add some, it's free... So he adds about 2 gallons, boom, cranks! WTH! Now I'm confused, and road ranger is smug...
So I tip him cause I'm so grateful and impressed!
We eat something, top off, I don't shut it off for fueling (just in case). Turnpike north. We spent the remainder of the drive to Orlando planning, where we most rather break down when we decelerate again... We decide, OBT cause, although it's a bad neighborhood, there are lots of parking lots to shoot for. As we reach OBT, I start using both brake and gas, keeping RPMs up, idled rough, but I kept it from dying, we made it home!
Next day, first order of business, to the dealership. Fortunately for me, my long time service advisor (and friend), way back from 2006, is there and is now the service manager. I tell him the whole story, he says, wow that's nuts! Slaps me into a loaner, and says "take care of that sunburn".

Day or so later, he says there is a traction control fault, I remember, yes I have seen the light come on, but, it went away, I just assumed these cars were self healing. They recommend the cam shaft actuator, timing belt, throttle body cleaning, an alignment and wipers.... Not all related. About 10 days later, I had forgotten I had a 2007, as we are really enjoying the 2014 escalade loaner. $4300, but it's fixed. Went on another boat adventure to the keys, no issues. Confidence restored. I have 100k miles, and the issue is only when towing at highway speeds, then coming off highway, rough idle, stalls, then won't crank. Apparently in higher mileage escalades, the components can become worn, causing a misalignment of the cam shaft, so that the injectors are not in sync. Camshaft actuator can trip a traction control fault, and timing belt, that's the fix. Truck is at 103k runs better than new, and I'm confident I'll get at least another 100k out of her...
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bigksone
07-05-14, 08:24 AM
Wow. That's a hell of a first post. Welcome aboard!

EliteFO
07-16-14, 02:14 PM
I have a 2007 Escalade ESV that is having similar problems. I purchased the truck brand new, have always done maintenance, always Mobil 1. After dropping my daughter off on Saturday, I was heading home on a country road doing 60 mph. Stabilitrac light comes on, followed quickly by the check engine light. I started to slow down for the upcoming stop sign, and the truck started missing like crazy. I stopped at the stop sign, and for fear of hurting something, I turned the truck off. The truck didn't re-start, so I called a tow truck and had the truck towed to my sister's house, since I was 70 miles away from home.

On Sunday, I try to re-start the truck and no joy. I check the code and I have P0300 random misfire (this was not a newsflash I could tell that by the way the truck was running.) I check for spark at cylinder 1 thinking maybe crank position sensor, and I have spark. Check fuel pressure, it was around 45 psi, so I purchased a Delphi pump, and replaced my fuel pump. Still no joy. Get the truck started by giving it a little gas while trying to start, and it starts, but missing like crazy, and it smells super rich. I unplug each coil pack one at a time to see if that changes idle characteristics, and it does not. I decide that it is beyond my scope and call another tow truck to have it towed to the dealer.

Dealer calls to let me know that they are 100% certain that I have an internal mechanical failure, and advises me to call Cadillac since the selling dealer had replaced all of my lifters in December, and they think, but cannot be certain without further diagnosis that this issue is related. I call Cadillac, and open a claim with them, and they are "trying" to work something out, and now I have to wait. Unfortunately, it is my DD, and the only vehicle that I own that can move my boat (which is blocking my other vehicle in the garage currently) with.

Unfortunately, I know the process with Cadillac now. In 2012, my engine was torn down when I brought it in for a "knocking" noise. The truck was under warranty at the time, so not a big deal except for the inconvenience. The dealer replaced #5 piston (paperwork says known issue), connecting rod on #5, connecting rod on #2 or 3 I don't remember, and all of the main bearings. Mind you that the truck never lost oil pressure, and other than these issues, was according to the tech like new inside. I am obviously not comfortable with having a piston, two connecting rods, and my main bearings replaced, and contest the repair, or at least have someone explain to me how or why this happens. I get no explanation, and no reassurance, so I call Cadillac and open a case. Nothing ever comes of this.

Fast forward. Truck starts making noise again, and I fear that it's the same as before. Selling and servicing dealer look at the truck twice, and claim that they cannot hear the noise. I take the truck to another dealer, and right away they claim that they can hear it, but since the other dealer sold the truck, and serviced the truck last time, I would most likely have to go back to them. I have to call Cadillac again, open a case, and reach the following agreement with the selling/servicing dealer. I will pay not more than $1,000 towards any repairs to my truck up to engine replacement if that is what is necessary. Keep in mind that I had been complaining about the noise since before the truck went out of warranty, but since it was now out of warranty, I had to pay the $1,000. Anyways, I get a phone call that the truck is fixed, come pay $1,000 and pick it up. This time they replaced all of the lifters. I get the car back, and it is quiet.

A month after the lifters were replaced, the truck starts making the "piston slap" noise, but my noise persists until the truck is at full operating temperature. I actually suspect exahust leak, but I am hesitant to return it to the dealer to check since now we are on a separate claim. I also notice that since ther repair, my dash pad is cracked on the driver's side, but I didn't notice it right away, so I decide to live with it, since I would have to argue my case to the dealer that they did it.

So, now obviously out of warranty, sitting at a dealer, without my truck, I am waiting to see if Cadillac will step up and help me, since if this is a mechanical failure, there's obviously history. This is just disheartening. I love my truck, actually just talked a friend into buying the Escalade that he now has too, which is ironic since I had to call him to use his AAA for the tow.

JD2004
07-16-14, 06:45 PM
so the solution is to make sure the truck has fresh relatively new oil/filter that doesn't clog any passages?

EliteFO
07-16-14, 09:34 PM
I have no idea as to what the problem is for my truck. It's still at the dealer, and I'm waiting for Cadillac to decide whether or not they are going to step up or not. I hope so, since I really do love my truck, but I stand behind my company's product, and I have a clear history of issues, and I believe that they should stand behind theirs. The outcome of this will decide what brand of cars are parked in my garage for the rest of my life you know?

Punmax
07-17-14, 04:38 AM
Hi everyone,
I bought my 2007 ext new in fall 2006, I've treated it like my child, every maintenance, premium fuel, it had never let me down before.
I first ran across this thread as I sat stranded in a gas station in Ft. Lauderdale. I was towing my 23ft boat, it was sunrise, and I had driven through the night from Orlando, about 3 hours with boat.
I ran really low on gas, low enough to make me nervous. As I come off the interstate I notice rough idle, and I give it gas to avoid a stall. I think, I'm about to run out of gas. I pull into station, praising God that we made it. I top it off and it takes, 27 gallons (30 gallon capacity) so I wasn't dry yet. I go to crank it up after fueling, and my heart ache began. It would crank but no spark, no fuel, what's going on? I keep cranking a few times, concerned I'm going to burn up the starter or kill the battery and compound the problem.
I start searching the internet, and ran across these nice people, similarly situated... I'm worried about what to do next, I look through my wallet, I realize AAA expired 3 years before... I called my mechanic on his cell, several friends that also own Cadillacs, no one picks up, cause it's 6am! I'm looking for the fuel filter, there ain't one, it's a sock allegedly, never seen one. I look for fuel pump to whack it with a wrench, maybe that will wake it up, but can't find that either, apparently that's in the tank, under the car, in the frame, I can't get to it. A moderate panic (oxymoron?) sets into me and my wife, as she gives me a disapproving glare, "I told you to stop for gas sooner", I know honey, I'm sorry, you were right, I love you, let me think!
After about 45 minutes, I try it one more time, and boom, it lives! Cranks up! Wife smiles, and I peel out of there. Thinking its a fluke, that was weird, not worried about it.
I get to the marina, detach the boat, drive around town in stop and go traffic, no rough idle, no stalling, no trouble cranking.

We launch the boat, and we are gone for 4 days, leaving truck and trailer at the marina.

On return, crispy from the sun, and relaxed from the boating diversion, I had almost forgot our mechanical issues from before. I go to crank the truck, no problem, but I notice the electric seats aren't working, AC compressor won't kick on, traction control light comes on for a sec. It runs a bit, and those systems come online, not worried, figure low batt, we're ok... Trailer the boat, and head to Turnpike north, no issues. About Ft. Pierce (1/2 way) we need gas again (not gonna run it low cause My wife, thinks I caused the problem with low fuel some how) heck maybe she's right, plus bathroom break sounds nice. As I decelerate at the service plaza, I am coasting toward fuel pumps, and DEAD. Engine stops, we come to a stop. Fortunately we do not get rear ended, and the three truckers behind us, who we are now preventing from reaching their gas, are non violent, and only honk their air horns, at one point in unison.
Wife and I are waving them by, but they don't fit to drive around us, we have essentially, interrupted interstate commerce, goods, Medicine, food will not make it because these increasingly angry truckers can't fuel up...
I step out, and raise the hood, which now acts as a white flag, a symbol they understand, they basically backed up and kept going northbound.
We sit, blocking traffic, though smaller vehicles can squeeze past us to the pumps. Hood is up flashers on.
After about 15 minutes a "Road Ranger" descends upon us like a greasy Angel, he says "you know you can't park there?" Hysterical, we have a good laugh! He says, "let me pull you out of the way" so interstate commerce can resume (I'm thinking in my head). As he gets his truck lined up and straps attached... A State Trooper pulls in behind us, with his lights on... As he walks up to my window, I said "howdy! Is there a problem officer?" Before he can say anything, Road Ranger hollers, put it in neutral, trooper sees issue is solved, walks away never saying a word. We get towed to a parking spot. Safe for now...

Same issue, cranks strong, seems like no fuel reaching the spark. I have about 1/2 a tank, Road Ranger says, I bet you're outa gas. I'm like, no I have half a tank... So he gets a gas can, and says, let me add some, it's free... So he adds about 2 gallons, boom, cranks! WTH! Now I'm confused, and road ranger is smug...
So I tip him cause I'm so grateful and impressed!
We eat something, top off, I don't shut it off for fueling (just in case). Turnpike north. We spent the remainder of the drive to Orlando planning, where we most rather break down when we decelerate again... We decide, OBT cause, although it's a bad neighborhood, there are lots of parking lots to shoot for. As we reach OBT, I start using both brake and gas, keeping RPMs up, idled rough, but I kept it from dying, we made it home!
Next day, first order of business, to the dealership. Fortunately for me, my long time service advisor (and friend), way back from 2006, is there and is now the service manager. I tell him the whole story, he says, wow that's nuts! Slaps me into a loaner, and says "take care of that sunburn".

Day or so later, he says there is a traction control fault, I remember, yes I have seen the light come on, but, it went away, I just assumed these cars were self healing. They recommend the cam shaft actuator, timing belt, throttle body cleaning, an alignment and wipers.... Not all related. About 10 days later, I had forgotten I had a 2007, as we are really enjoying the 2014 escalade loaner. $4300, but it's fixed. Went on another boat adventure to the keys, no issues. Confidence restored. I have 100k miles, and the issue is only when towing at highway speeds, then coming off highway, rough idle, stalls, then won't crank. Apparently in higher mileage escalades, the components can become worn, causing a misalignment of the cam shaft, so that the injectors are not in sync. Camshaft actuator can trip a traction control fault, and timing belt, that's the fix. Truck is at 103k runs better than new, and I'm confident I'll get at least another 100k out of her...
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What was the $4,300 for? This is very common on the early trucks. It shouldn't cost no more than $1,000, and that's pushing it. I had my actuator done, along with all plugs, wires, etc, and the bill was under a grand.

EliteFO
07-21-14, 09:03 AM
I have found the problem with my truck. I have no compression in cylinder 1. Every other cylinder is within 4 psi of each other. We will see what happens. I am out of warranty, but my truck does have a history of internal engine failures, so hopefully either the repairing dealer, or Cadillac will step up and do what's right.