: '71 Sedan Deville, I think someone needs to talk me out of it.



MoistCabbage
08-11-11, 01:27 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-CADDILLAC-SEDAN-DEVILLE-51K-MILES-MINT-/230657031444?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35b43afd14#ht_562wt_1165

It's the year I want, the colors I want in and out (actually only ever seen the light green interior in brocade, never leather), low mileage, recent work done, and only 4 and a half hours away. I know it'd need a complete repaint (and I know what it'd cost), I'd probably put a black roof on it, but the interior and chrome looks great. I'd drive it as is for now. The bids only went up to ~$3,000 last time it was on ebay, I can probably get it nice and cheap. What to do, what to do....

cadillac kevin
08-11-11, 01:32 AM
dont buy it...it gets bad mileage. (did that talk you out of it? lol)

only issue I see that could be a problem is the vinyl top. it appears to have some rust under the top below the back window.

MoistCabbage
08-11-11, 01:39 AM
Yeah I noticed the bubbling, but I'm drooling over the car even as it sits. I've been looking for one for YEARS, that color (especially the interior) just doesn't pop up that often. My thinking is I could keep waiting for a nice original or restored one to pop up, but that could take years and move into 5 digits, or get this one, enjoy it as is, and restore it at my own pace. Plus, if some kid gets it for next to nothing, the poor thing will end up candy purple, with ostrich interior and 28" rims on it.

CADforce69
08-11-11, 08:46 AM
Only 2 days left and maybe for $ 2,500 could be yours. Interior seems mint. That uses to be the worst part to restore. Just figure out how much would cost a new vynil + paint job. That added to the purchase price should be no more than $10,000 if you consider the car as an investment, but for a caddy lover itīs difficult talking about investments. You should check everything else is as ad says. The good part of it is that you could paint and get new vinyl when you had money enough, as itīs not urgent to start enjoying the car for the rest of the summer.

If I was on your shoes, I would go and check it :) Very important checking rust in low fenders, floor and trunk panel. That would increase noticeably restoring cost unless you make it by yourself.

outsider
08-11-11, 09:24 AM
looks nice...i would buy it :)

HartfordGuy
08-11-11, 09:42 AM
The body does look straight. Go for it.

Bro-Ham
08-11-11, 12:43 PM
Everybody has a different opinion of "MINT" apparently. I like the colors too, contact the seller directly and see if you can make a deal. You never know - you might get lucky! :)

gdwriter
08-11-11, 01:08 PM
In that color, it does look minty fresh:

http://www.bulletproofblog.com/images/Newtpaste.jpg

But for some reason, I really like the looks of the 71-72 DeVille. Worth checking out.

77CDV
08-11-11, 01:15 PM
Nice looking car. Take a magnet with you when you go inspect it before you bid. Check the lower fenders and rocker panels. Pay special attention to the rear wheel wells, and especially the trunk and floor pans. Make sure you check carefully under the rocker trim, as rust likes to build up there. If you decide to buy, go in knowing you will be doing more bodywork than you thought you would. That backlight channel is likely toast.

MoistCabbage
08-11-11, 03:07 PM
In that color, it does look minty fresh:

http://www.bulletproofblog.com/images/Newtpaste.jpg

That's my favorite color on that generation, but with the white top, it does sort of reminds me of mint ice cream. I'd definitely put a black top on it. But hey, you guys are supposed to be talking me out of it. LOL. I have room for it, It wouldn't just sit, I'd definitely drive it as is and enjoy it. I guess what's in the back of my mind is "what if a beautiful original should come along after I buy". :crying2: I don't know what to do!

Bro-Ham
08-11-11, 04:24 PM
"what if a beautiful original should come along after I buy". :crying2: I don't know what to do!

What if the sky falls tomorrow and you don't get to enjoy either this car you found or any other one that may or may not come along. Put yourself out there...enjoy life with the toys you want in your sandbox...if another dream car comes along, and you're strong, you'll figure out a way to do whatever it takes to make it happen. Cancel the "what if," focus on the "just do it!" Good luck! :)

albymangled
08-11-11, 08:35 PM
The main thing (IMHO) "mint" about that car is the color.....to be fair the leather seats look very good..

I realise it's the other side of the country and I'm not suggesting a cross country jaunt to obtain it but isn't this car nicer looking , in better nick with no reserve and the same desirable color?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Cadillac-Ville-/200638427006?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2eb6fb6f7e#ht_500wt_1182

(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Cadillac-Ville-/200638427006?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2eb6fb6f7e#ht_500wt_1182)Keep skimming those classifieds mate....

http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash2.cgi?cat=cp&fil=cadillac+197*&loc=&pgs=100&submit=++++go++++

MoistCabbage
08-11-11, 08:42 PM
The '72 on ebay is the wrong colors, and if i were to buy a coupe it'd have to be triple black. Also, i prefer '71 to '72 or '73. '72 had bumper rub strips that I'm not fond of, and '73 got the big, square "government" bumpers. I'm not picky or anything ;) LOL

albymangled
08-12-11, 07:37 AM
could of sworn this thread title said "talk me out of it".......

jsherid1
08-12-11, 09:46 AM
It looks like a nice straight car, go for it--you only live once!

I'm not much help on this type of question. I have to observe that coming to this board to get talked out of buying another RWD Cadillac is like asking Charlie Sheen to help you give up booze, drugs and hookers.

MoistCabbage
08-13-11, 06:25 AM
$2,600 and the reserve is met!!! Less than 12 hours left, I have some thinking to do.

MoistCabbage
08-13-11, 06:33 PM
Well, it's gone. winning bid, $2,600. The friend of the owner (who listed it on ebay) was unwilling to send me more detailed pictures (undercarriage, closeups of the bubbling top, trunk, etc...) I'll find the right car eventually. I just hope the new owner restores it to it's former glory, and doesn't turn it into something ridiculous. Thank you everybody for your input.

77CDV
08-13-11, 10:49 PM
When sellers refuse to disclose information, it's a bad sign.

MoistCabbage
08-13-11, 10:52 PM
Indeed my good sir.

CADforce69
08-14-11, 08:52 AM
Maybe the car is not so good except for the interior. I wish the new owner takes good care of such a beautiful car. Anyway, if you paint it professionally and make a new vinyl roof maybe you spend near $ 7,000. Consider you always spend considerably more than expected.

77CDV
08-18-11, 12:44 AM
OK, it's a coupe, and it's in NorCal, but still...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2551535518.html

cadillac kevin
08-18-11, 12:48 AM
^the front of that car looks jacked up.

MoistCabbage
08-18-11, 12:54 AM
The stereo takes away from the value, and yeah, that suspension is definitely a little screwy. $9,000 is WAY too much for that car. Thanks for the heads up though.

Actually I've been looking at this one for a few days, wrong color, but only an hour from home. He's asking $8,000. $6,55-$7,000 might work for me, but the brown would have to look spectacular in person, I really want green.

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/2542339165.html

sven914
08-18-11, 02:42 AM
I always find that funny. Most of the time, when you spend a thousand dollar upgrading a car (the right way), you add a thousand dollars of value to it. But whenever you add a stereo system, the car instantly depreciates. It's like a bad Smirnoff joke...

77CDV
08-18-11, 04:27 AM
The stereo takes away from the value, and yeah, that suspension is definitely a little screwy. $9,000 is WAY too much for that car. Thanks for the heads up though.

Actually I've been looking at this one for a few days, wrong color, but only an hour from home. He's asking $8,000. $6,55-$7,000 might work for me, but the brown would have to look spectacular in person, I really want green.

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/2542339165.html

That's really stunning. It's not brown, but a greenish gold. Very popular in the early 70s.

CADforce69
08-18-11, 11:28 AM
Really beautiful inside and outside. vinyl/paint combination is one of the rightest and really elegant. Worth taking a look. Maybe the seller is willing to lower price somewhat... Or call you again if time passes by and he canīt sell it for this price but if the vinyl is in good shape, IMO itīs worth $ 8,000.

gdwriter
08-18-11, 02:46 PM
That gold '71 in Worcester is beautiful! Worth checking out at least.

MoistCabbage
08-18-11, 04:54 PM
I think I might go take a look at it. The owner (an older gentleman named Sam) bought it for his wife, new in '71, because she had a hard time getting into and driving his Suburban that he used for his buisness. She has since passed, and he no longer needs the car. I have to agree with what he said to me over the phone, "Even if you dont buy it, you HAVE to see it".

CADforce69
08-18-11, 09:52 PM
Color is not important; condition is and body and interior seems near mint. The only thing you can loose is 2 1/2 hours and who knows what you can win... So what are you waiting to take a look? :)

MoistCabbage
08-19-11, 12:27 AM
Color is not important

You don't know me very well :sneaky:

You know how when you buy a new car, you get to pick and choose colors, options and accessories, I buy my used cars like that, I wait until I find exactly what I'm looking for. With these cars being 40 years old, I know that's dam near impossible, so I'm being much less picky than usual. The right colors, a right hand mirror and a tilt wheel are (almost) a must. I'm going to go look at it in the next couple days, maybe I'll fall in love.

Bro-Ham
08-19-11, 02:09 AM
You don't know me very well :sneaky:...I wait until I find exactly what I'm looking for...I know that's dam near impossible, so I'm being much less picky...

Hi, I'm Dave and I'm a car-aholic. I think you'll be cured if you just buy a car and be happy. :)

gdwriter
08-22-11, 08:50 PM
That minty-fresh '71 Sedan de Ville is back on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-CADDILLAC-SEDAN-DEVILLE-51K-MILES-MINT-/230663588119?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35b49f0917).

CADforce69
08-22-11, 09:11 PM
It seems that buyer did not found the car as he expected or seller regretted having sold the car for that price:eyebrow:

A second opportunity...This time you could try to see it live, but Iīd rather prefer the $ 8,000 metallic brown.

MoistCabbage
11-11-13, 09:26 PM
Over two years since I passed on the Deville, but I think I may have found THE car. '71, Green on green brocade with a black roof, 55K, supposedly mint (pics a a little small). It's overpriced, but it's not like I have a ton to choose from. I'm waiting for better pictures. Cross your fingers that it's as advertised!

jamespowers
11-11-13, 11:06 PM
Over two years since I passed on the Deville, but I think I may have found THE car. '71, Green on green brocade with a black roof, 55K, supposedly mint (pics a a little small). It's overpriced, but it's not like I have a ton to choose from. I'm waiting for better pictures. Cross your fingers that it's as advertised!

Wow! Two years! You really are picky. :rofl:

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I found one for you!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/4162425955.html
:p

cadillac kevin
11-11-13, 11:48 PM
I saw one of those at the junkyard today. It was the metallic aqua color (repainted, was originally dark green) with a black top and black vinyl/ cloth interior. It was a beautiful car, except it needed seat covers and someone hit a pole doing about 30 (needed new hood, grille, headlight surrounds, radiator, core support and fan). It was rust free and the chrome looked nice. Shame they don't sell cars, as it would have been a worthy restoration candidate.

jamespowers
11-11-13, 11:49 PM
I saw one of those at the junkyard today. It was the metallic aqua color (repainted, was originally dark green) with a black top and black vinyl/ cloth interior. It was a beautiful car, except it needed seat covers and someone hit a pole doing about 30 (needed new hood, grille, headlight surrounds, radiator, core support and fan). It was rust free and the chrome looked nice. Shame they don't sell cars, as it would have been a worthy restoration candidate.

They don't sell cars---unless you offer them enough. :p

cadillac kevin
11-11-13, 11:51 PM
They don't sell cars---unless you offer them enough. :p

Nope, they don't sell period.

jamespowers
11-12-13, 12:06 AM
Nope, they don't sell period.Darn!

MoistCabbage
11-12-13, 12:12 AM
Wow! Two years! You really are picky. :rofl:

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I found one for you!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/4162425955.html
:p

WOAH! It's not THAT overpriced!

jamespowers
11-12-13, 12:36 AM
WOAH! It's not THAT overpriced!

Yeah no kidding. :p

CadillacLuke24
11-12-13, 12:47 AM
Over two years since I passed on the Deville, but I think I may have found THE car. '71, Green on green brocade with a black roof, 55K, supposedly mint (pics a a little small). It's overpriced, but it's not like I have a ton to choose from. I'm waiting for better pictures. Cross your fingers that it's as advertised!

OOOOOOH Pictures!

MoistCabbage
11-12-13, 01:02 AM
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/1A82A45D-1FB0-4F96-A642-7D6D88191836-1925-0000014B56725164_zps6fa26b30.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/1A82A45D-1FB0-4F96-A642-7D6D88191836-1925-0000014B56725164_zps6fa26b30.jpg.html)

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talismandave
11-12-13, 01:28 AM
Wow, sweet!

deVille33
11-12-13, 10:46 AM
Yes, yes, very nice.

CadillacLuke24
11-13-13, 03:29 PM
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/1A82A45D-1FB0-4F96-A642-7D6D88191836-1925-0000014B56725164_zps6fa26b30.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/1A82A45D-1FB0-4F96-A642-7D6D88191836-1925-0000014B56725164_zps6fa26b30.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/F415AAB9-8F47-467C-B9E3-96AD405491AA-1925-0000014B610C0673_zps3cd1da57.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/F415AAB9-8F47-467C-B9E3-96AD405491AA-1925-0000014B610C0673_zps3cd1da57.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/2E1EE39D-3924-410E-A87C-7FBFD4E70BC5-1925-0000014B7666F7DA_zpsdc09a46b.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/2E1EE39D-3924-410E-A87C-7FBFD4E70BC5-1925-0000014B7666F7DA_zpsdc09a46b.jpg.html)

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Can't talk you out of that one :duck:

Benzilla
11-13-13, 04:43 PM
It Looks new! Those whitewalls pop nicely as well.

talismandave
11-13-13, 07:34 PM
Can't talk you out of that one :duck:

Don't worry...he will respond shortly.


While he was waiting for us to talk him out of it, he went to the bar to ask them to talk him out of a drinking.....

MoistCabbage
11-13-13, 08:12 PM
Lol. No, you don't have to talk me out if this one.

I spoke with the owner today for a while. The car is in his friends airplane hangar, he's going to get me the pictures I requested by Friday. He bought it in '98 when the owner (his friend) passes away. He's put 16K on it since then.

It was repainted in '10 (which the ad said) Trim hood and fenders removed, base/clear. He has pictures of it before the repaint was done, and insists that absolutely no bodywork was needed, and there was no rust, it was just getting full from age.

He says there are no dents or dings, but there is a small (~1" long) scratch under the front right door handle. He says he hit it with the pressure washer tip while washing it at a DIY wash bay.

He did send me 1 additional picture that he had on his work computer. It's a larger one than what was in the ad. I'll upload it in a while.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/255116C4-A669-49B7-B094-A7D70561B165-597-000000516FF0C022_zps14c3b509.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/255116C4-A669-49B7-B094-A7D70561B165-597-000000516FF0C022_zps14c3b509.jpg.html)

talismandave
11-13-13, 09:19 PM
I have been around here long enough to know that those big ones aren't to everyone's taste, but to me that is pure sex appeal!:worship:

basscatt
11-13-13, 09:34 PM
someone needs to talk me out of it
OK - here goes -

it's all green - everything is GREEN -
what would you name it? - I know - THE TROUT

that thing is a BOAT -
Break Out Another Thousand -
gonna cost a KINGS RANSOM to maintain and drive it -

6 MPG - and you WILL be using 93 PREMIUM -
or better yet 100 RACING GAS -

did I mention it's GREEN? -

the price is WAY too high -

no warranty -

ACRES of paint to wash and wax -

probably won't even fit in the garage -
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well - I tried - but I couldn't even convince myself -

DAMN - that is a GORGEOUS car - :thumbsup:

how much? - and when do you pick it up -

MoistCabbage
11-13-13, 10:45 PM
bass, it's overpriced. Haggerty lists a #2 car, which this may be slightly better than, at $7,200. He's asking $9,000. I'll try to haggle, if I get some off, great. If not, I don't care. This car is THE year, THE color, the right interior color in cloth, and the right color vinyl top. As long as the condition is as advertised, it's worth every penny to me.

I'm not sure exactly when I'm picking it up. I want to see the pictures I asked for first, then I'll talk to him about price. I'm going to pick it up in person, so me and a friend are going to get passports tomorrow.

CadillacLuke24
11-13-13, 10:47 PM
:yeah:

bass knows what's up :D

basscatt
11-13-13, 11:21 PM
bass, it's overpriced. Haggerty lists a #2 car, which this may be slightly better than, at $7,200. He's asking $9,000. I'll try to haggle, if I get some off, great. If not, I don't care. This car is THE year, THE color, the right interior color in cloth, and the right color vinyl top. As long as the condition is as advertised, it's worth every penny to me.

I'm not sure exactly when I'm picking it up. I want to see the pictures I asked for first, then I'll talk to him about price. I'm going to pick it up in person, so me and a friend are going to get passports tomorrow.
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BUT IT'S GREEN -
and has my Grandmother's couch in it -

the only thing missing is the plastic covers -
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OK - I give up -

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$9 isn't bad - is that 9-US? -
or that funny-money -
franks - or yugos - or marks - you know - with them elm leaves on it - :stirpot:

MoistCabbage
11-13-13, 11:26 PM
.....The thought of having the seats covered in clear vinyl may have crossed my mind.

I'm assuming it's $9K CAD (<appropriate), which would be ~$8,600 USD.

basscatt
11-13-13, 11:58 PM
.....The thought of having the seats covered in clear vinyl may have crossed my mind.

I'm assuming it's $9K CAD (<appropriate), which would be ~$8,600 USD.
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any problem crossing the border? - import tax?

MoistCabbage
11-14-13, 12:05 AM
Not a clue, lol. My aunt works at the registry, I'm going to ask her what the registration/insurance/import process is. Not sure what to expect.

Mark 78 Coupe
11-14-13, 02:26 AM
That color is wild! I love it, especially with the big white wall tires. What makes older cars like that so cool is that you never see colors like that any more. It's like people are afraid of any thing other than silver, black or red any more. I say go for it, but be extra sure it is absolutely rust free for that kind of money. Good luck.

MoistCabbage
11-14-13, 03:13 AM
The owner insists the car is absolutely rust free. I asked for pictures of the undercarriage, behind the skirts, the trunk, and the usual spots under the vinyl. The trunk I've seen with the trim removed, and it's clean.

The color is called Adriatic Turquoise. In the pictures, the car looks EVER SO SLIGHTLY more green. Not sure if that's the pictures or the repaint, but it's too little of a difference to matter to me. My father had the same car when I was very young, I think it was sold in '92/'93 when or slightly after my parents bought a house, so I would have been 4 or 5. But, it was sold to my Grandfather, so I was around it for several more years before he completely destroyed it. I seem to remember it being ever so slightly more blue though.

Oddly enough, I don't think my father owning an identical car had anything to do with me wanting one just like it. I was obsessed with cars from a very young age, but I never really paid any special attention to the Deville. Maybe it's a subconscious thing.

outsider
11-14-13, 12:26 PM
I bought my 87 in canada and brought it over to america. Cost me $0 to bring it over (but I had the bill of sales written for like $500) I'm not sure if the rules have changed or not but it was really easy when I did it. Just drove it over, showed them the bill of sales, and they sent me on my way.

Benzilla
11-14-13, 02:21 PM
You should totally get the clear plastic seat covers!! I don't even know why that excites me like it does, lol. Probably just that it's a period correct (if not a bit campy) way to actually protect those beautiful seats.

MoistCabbage
11-14-13, 03:15 PM
I bought my 87 in canada and brought it over to america. Cost me $0 to bring it over (but I had the bill of sales written for like $500) I'm not sure if the rules have changed or not but it was really easy when I did it. Just drove it over, showed them the bill of sales, and they sent me on my way.

When was this and would you mind explaining in more detail?

How does the registration issue work? Once I register a car I have 7 days to insure it, but I'm wondering how I legally drive the car in Canada when I pick it up, and then legally in the US. I won't own it until I'm in Canada and it's in front of me.

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Also, anyone have a real world approximation on highway MPG? Just wondering what to expect on the way home.

MoistCabbage
11-14-13, 07:09 PM
A few of the pictures he sent me:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/201F0317-744D-47A2-9DAA-ACD264E9028D-1959-00000128F9A666C2_zps3ffff054.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/201F0317-744D-47A2-9DAA-ACD264E9028D-1959-00000128F9A666C2_zps3ffff054.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/D3F17B21-F413-478D-8C5C-FD7E805F20E9-1959-0000012915017AB2_zps72216b95.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/D3F17B21-F413-478D-8C5C-FD7E805F20E9-1959-0000012915017AB2_zps72216b95.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/5563916A-A1E0-492E-948A-B19A6D759A09-1959-00000128FF29BFDB_zps0eb7a606.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/5563916A-A1E0-492E-948A-B19A6D759A09-1959-00000128FF29BFDB_zps0eb7a606.jpg.html)

The engine is dirty but dry. The valve covers need paint. In his email, he told me the A/C compressor clutch needs to be replaced, but the rest of the system works :hmm:, and that the radio tuner knob is "fiddly" (has to be fooled with a little when changing channels).

basscatt
11-14-13, 10:28 PM
gas mileage? - REALLY? how many GALLONS PER MILE? -:histeric::histeric::histeric::histeric:

OK - 12 to 15 on the highway

MoistCabbage
11-14-13, 10:40 PM
12-15 - I'd be impressed with 15.

Let's go with 12.

501 miles / 12 MPG = ~42 gallons needed.

42 gallons times X ~$3.80 = ~$160.

Not that bad really.

talismandave
11-15-13, 12:50 AM
You will be having so much fun you will even tip the attendant!http://www.mazeguy.net/bigicons/moneyrain.gif
That car keeps looking sweeter in each picture.:inlove:
Hope it all goes smoothly for you.:thumbsup:

basscatt
11-15-13, 01:18 AM
HEY - you might have gotten lucky -
the 472 motor was redesigned in 1971 -
compression was dropped from 10:1 to 8.5:1 -
that means you can burn regular -
that could save $.50 per gallon -

specs -
345 hp @ 4400 rpm -
torque - 500 lb/ft @ 2800 rpm -:happyhappy: :woohoo::lildevil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V8_engine#472

MoistCabbage
11-15-13, 01:41 AM
Yup, all that power, and 10+ seconds to 60, lol. But, I could tie the Seville to the rear bumper, and it would probably only add another second...all that torque :cool2: .

cadillac kevin
11-15-13, 11:54 AM
Yup, all that power, and 10+ seconds to 60, lol. But, I could tie the Seville to the rear bumper, and it would probably only add another second...all that torque :cool2: .

Also, with the low gearing, you can probably go 140+ mph

shrike77
11-15-13, 05:35 PM
that's a freakin` beautiful car!!!

mitch2264
11-17-13, 09:28 AM
She is a beauty! Gas mileage, as I tell people when they ask what MPG's I get with my Cadillac, "it's like driving a Cuban cigar and lighting it with hundred dollar bills!". :)

One of my favorite body styles! Growing up, our neighbor had a '71 Coupe de Ville, white with a dark blue top and white leather interior--I always loved that car!

Good luck!

Koooop
11-17-13, 10:49 AM
That's not Green, it's Adriatic Turquoise, I had a Cypress Green 1973 SDV with the Green Brocade interior about 10 years ago. Try 6 city, 9 hwy for mpg, but that car would smoke a tire as long as my foot was in it. That car is beautiful, stunning color and interior. The rust free detail is priceless since those were such rust buckets at the vinyl top and skirts.

I'm jealous.

MoistCabbage
11-21-13, 08:11 PM
Some shots of the undercarriage:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/57AE84D8-DA31-442C-B257-D365611F0676_zpsduyuwry2.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/57AE84D8-DA31-442C-B257-D365611F0676_zpsduyuwry2.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/CBF906B5-3D00-4CF5-BC38-5954BE2CE29E_zpsatece9ak.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/CBF906B5-3D00-4CF5-BC38-5954BE2CE29E_zpsatece9ak.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/14C26DB6-F5C2-4259-8053-114389AD3B27_zps7exrre5k.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/14C26DB6-F5C2-4259-8053-114389AD3B27_zps7exrre5k.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/97750716-4330-474B-B54F-D14CDA5B86F7_zps9f4qyz4i.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/97750716-4330-474B-B54F-D14CDA5B86F7_zps9f4qyz4i.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/C35AEF80-4CBF-49BB-8E64-054B751309E7_zpszqzpgkrn.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/C35AEF80-4CBF-49BB-8E64-054B751309E7_zpszqzpgkrn.jpg.html)

Koooop
11-21-13, 09:07 PM
Bite me.

Now I'm really jealous!

Jeff R
11-22-13, 12:07 AM
Bottom line here is -- Life's too short to not have a little fun. Enjoy it!!

CADforce69
11-22-13, 11:38 AM
Ok, as my father uses to say:

These old cars always give you problems. You will have to repair it frequently. It will leave you stranded on any point of the road. You will spend a lot of money... More than you can imagine. They always have hidden defects. These cars are too big and bulky to drive, leaving apart the parking issue... And where will you store it?




Now that I have tried to talk you out of it... I bought one in faaaaaaaar worse condition for the same price. My father knew it months later :lol:

Now -jokes apart- the look of this car is splendid. It seems to have been well cared and maintained in every aspect. The machinery of these car is very noble and the engine and transmission is the best cadillac ever built. Maybe you have to fix something here and there (we are talking about a 42 year car) but itīs really difficult finding a car that age in that condition. I donīt think the price is too high if everything the owner says is true, what you will be able to check in person. If something is not true, then he should lower the price. Good luck with it :thumbsup:

Fleet
11-23-13, 12:21 AM
someone needs to talk me out of it


OK - here goes -

it's all green - everything is GREEN -
what would you name it? - I know - THE TROUT

that thing is a BOAT -
Break Out Another Thousand -
gonna cost a KINGS RANSOM to maintain and drive it -

6 MPG - and you WILL be using 93 PREMIUM -
or better yet 100 RACING GAS -

did I mention it's GREEN? -

the price is WAY too high -

no warranty -

ACRES of paint to wash and wax -

probably won't even fit in the garage -
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well - I tried - but I couldn't even convince myself -

DAMN - that is a GORGEOUS car - :thumbsup:

how much? - and when do you pick it up -

6 mpg? It should be more like 10-12 mpg.

MoistCabbage
11-23-13, 01:17 AM
bass was being sarcastic.

77CDV
11-23-13, 03:16 AM
So buy it already!!!!!! :)

Koooop
11-23-13, 11:37 AM
bass was being sarcastic. LOL But every word is true.

MoistCabbage
11-23-13, 03:17 PM
Lol.

Calling to discuss price today.

Koooop
11-23-13, 04:18 PM
Lol. Calling to discuss price today.

For $10,000 I think the AC should work, but miles and immaculate condition say buy it.

MoistCabbage
11-23-13, 11:36 PM
Not $10K, $9K CAD, which is ~$8,600 USD. If it is just the compressor clutch, it's $90 on Rockauto.

We spoke again earlier, I offered $8,500 CAD, he's going to think about it. I'll call on Monday and see what he says. Worth a shot.

Koooop
11-24-13, 12:06 AM
Not $10K, $9K CAD, which is ~$8,600 USD. If it is just the compressor clutch, it's $90 on Rockauto. We spoke again earlier, I offered $8,500 CAD, he's going to think about it. I'll call on Monday and see what he says. Worth a shot.

Plus an evap, receiver, dryer, expansion valves, evac, recharge with a r134a conversion and a prayer that the suitcase, it's contents and the condenser are fine. Yeah, a clutch is all it needs. At least go in eyes open.

Eitherway, if that beast is as immaculate as it appears you simply cannot buy one like it. All of the super clean cars are always some horrible shade of dog poo, booger or buttercup. That Adriatic Turquoise with the Brocade is exceptional.

MoistCabbage
11-24-13, 12:23 AM
No I agree with you completely. He seems honest and forthcoming, says it was working but the clutch will now not engage. But yes, it's very possible the whole system is toast. If it is, meh, I'll deal with it in the summer.

And yes, all the nice ones I see are brown, "almond", white, and some black ones (which is very nice, but kind of generic). The only other nice Adriatic Turquoise car I've seen in the past few years was a coupe. I would only get a coupe if it were black on black.

Koooop
11-24-13, 12:34 AM
I want a 1975 Coupe, Madarine With Orange Plaid.

MoistCabbage
11-24-13, 01:11 AM
Mandarin I like, but I'm not a fan of plaid. I like this fabric though, and it looks good in orange as well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5228834684/

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Ah, here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5318197152/

And it's a coupe too. '74 though.

Koooop
11-24-13, 01:17 AM
Those aren't bad. I like bright, obnoxious colors, the plaid is da bomb! I usually just take whatever clean car lands in my lap though.

MoistCabbage
11-24-13, 01:50 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5318197152/

Koooop
11-24-13, 09:20 AM
Can't say I've ever seen that Maharaja interior in person, it looks hilarious. I'd take it.

cadillac_al
11-24-13, 09:56 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5318197152/

Those were the days my friend.

talismandave
11-24-13, 11:12 AM
Amen! If it is as comfortable as grandma's sofa, why not upholster it like grandma's sofa!:thumbsup:

MoistCabbage
11-27-13, 07:27 PM
I waited until today... $8,500 it is :cool2:


So less than $8,100 USD.

oldcaddybuyer
11-27-13, 07:43 PM
Congrats. When do you get her?

CADforce69
11-27-13, 08:01 PM
Congrats! When will you post a pic of you driving the caddy? :D

MoistCabbage
11-27-13, 08:14 PM
Congrats. When do you get her?

Going through Uship, supposedly they'll get back to me on the 2nd.

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Congrats! When will you post a pic of you driving the caddy? :D

~35 seconds after it's off the truck :yup: .

talismandave
11-27-13, 09:33 PM
Going through Uship, supposedly they'll get back to me on the 2nd.

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~35 seconds after it's off the truck :yup: .


I will watch for it on the next season of Shipping Wars!:lol:

77CDV
11-27-13, 11:13 PM
Yay! Congrats! :thumbsup:

Koooop
11-27-13, 11:32 PM
You're not trying to import that from Canada are you?

MoistCabbage
11-27-13, 11:34 PM
Indeed I am.

Koooop
11-27-13, 11:37 PM
That'll never work in the East, it needs to come to So. Cal.

MoistCabbage
11-27-13, 11:42 PM
:histeric:

MoistCabbage
11-29-13, 09:50 PM
I have a few questions.

First, something I've wondered for a while: The trim on the dash and door panels. In this car, it's a kind of brushed stainless pattern, and that's what I like. However, usually, I see the faux wood grain, but I've seen both in both '71's and '72's, sedans and coupes. Was one or the other just optional? Did it depend on interior color? What was the deciding factor?

Second, the fiddly radio: I know I could have it repaired, but there are other options. There are HUs that look like vintage radios (but obviously don't match exactly), but are modern stereos with a digital screen (some even hidden behind a fake analog dial face), AUX inputs, Bluetooth... There are also companies that gut the original innards, leave all the controls, and make the mechanical controls operate modern, digital components. I'm leaning towards the third option with Bluetooth. It will look and feel original, with no visual AUX input, but sound better and I'd be able to stream my music through it. This would also require upgraded speakers, but I can get those in direct fit sizes, so nothing would need to be modified. The only permanently altered part of the car would be the HU. Opinions?

And finally, the clock. I'm assuming it doesn't work. If it doesn't, I can get it repaired for $60 (with a 1 year warranty. Or, for for $160, I can have a quartz conversion done (with a 2 year warranty. I'm thinking just repair it, even if it has to be serviced every couple of years, just to keep the smooth sweep of the second hand. Opinions?

Thanks.

Jeff R
11-29-13, 10:44 PM
I did a quartz clock conversion on my 70. The old guts had shorted out and burned so there was not much left to save. Homemade conversion. I put a movement in its place and made hands that look exactly like the orig ones. I was able to use the old second hand so it really looks correct--and it was low cost........... With that being said, I miss the steady sweep of the second hand and the sound of its tick. My car is far from pristine but yours is. Get it fixed so that it runs like it should. You'll kick yourself if you end up sitting there watching a quartz second hand.
Jeff

77CDV
11-29-13, 11:46 PM
1. Cars with cloth interior got the brushed metal trim. Leather appointed cars go the faux wood.

2. For the radio, I'd go with option 3 if I were to change anything. Always nice to have increased functionality while maintaining original appearance.

3. Get the mechanical clock works fixed. So much cooler knowing it's right. :)

MoistCabbage
11-30-13, 12:19 AM
1. Cars with cloth interior got the brushed metal trim. Leather appointed cars go the faux wood....Seriously? I'm almost embarrassed that I never made that connection.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think I'll have the clock fixed, and the radio retrofitted.

One of the things I remember about my fathers car is slapping the dash next to the clock, and seeing it run for a minute or so. Lol.

cadillac kevin
11-30-13, 12:43 AM
MC....I have a 71 CDV clock. I don't know if it works (haven't tested it yet), but if you'd like, I can test it for you. If it works, I'd let go of it for 20 shipped or so.

Koooop
11-30-13, 01:52 AM
Get the quartz clock, the mechanical is very cool but they're fussy. I suppose if I could get the original I suppose I would, but read the owners book about regulation of time.

Get the proper 8 track! You gotta have Tom Jones and Johnny Cash on 8 track.

talismandave
11-30-13, 10:19 AM
Get the quartz clock, the mechanical is very cool but they're fussy. I suppose if I could get the original I suppose I would, but read the owners book about regulation of time.

Get the proper 8 track! You gotta have Tom Jones and Johnny Cash on 8 track.

I have to say that my experience in my 87 listening to Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Ray Charles on cassette has had me rethinking putting an 8 track back in the Talisman. The compromised sound quality of cassette is actually part of the fun of the experience.

I will be adding a hidden MP3 input in my 87 so I can run my phone through it for music, navigation and calls when needed, but the cassette will be staying!

Koooop
11-30-13, 11:01 AM
It's awesome to have an 8 track playing in a old Caddy at a show.

I have a pristine Caddy 8 track with the gold wreath on chrome knobs in my garage waiting for my next big Cad.

CadillacLuke24
12-01-13, 02:04 AM
I have to say that my experience in my 87 listening to Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, and Ray Charles on cassette has had me rethinking putting an 8 track back in the Talisman. The compromised sound quality of cassette is actually part of the fun of the experience.

I will be adding a hidden MP3 input in my 87 so I can run my phone through it for music, navigation and calls when needed, but the cassette will be staying!

I'm not sure what it is, but there's a certain charm to listening to Deadman on cassette in Alexandra :cloud9:

MoistCabbage
12-03-13, 07:09 PM
The shipping quite I got was incorrect... They had the pickup listed as Ontario Iowa, not Douglas Ontario Canada. .....Lovely. Waiting for a call back.

Koooop
12-03-13, 07:27 PM
This is going to be expensive.

(Hope that makes you feel better)

77CDV
12-03-13, 09:29 PM
Shouldn't be that bad. ON to MA isn't that far. It's customs and import duties that'll kill ya. :(

MoistCabbage
12-03-13, 10:43 PM
Shouldn't be that bad. ON to MA isn't that far. It's customs and import duties that'll kill ya. :(

Well it's more than 25 years old, so it's exempt from EPA and DOT requirements. I'm having a hard time finding any information about fees. :noidea:

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I finally got pictures of behind the skirts:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/9A5DCAA9-4B4C-4668-B31C-CCEB5F3F7105_zpsabcwyvvc.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/9A5DCAA9-4B4C-4668-B31C-CCEB5F3F7105_zpsabcwyvvc.jpg.html)

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m538/moistcabbage/D4AA5EA7-2E9A-4BCB-A3BA-3F734F51DEA4_zpsxklp6bte.jpg (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/moistcabbage/media/D4AA5EA7-2E9A-4BCB-A3BA-3F734F51DEA4_zpsxklp6bte.jpg.html)

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This thing seems to be as clean as he says. Though it looks like it had a drive in bad weather in this pic.

Does it look like it's on a lift in the picture? Doesn't to me. I was thinking maybe he drove it to the same place he took it to get the shots of the undercarriage?

77CDV
12-04-13, 12:11 AM
Not on a lift. And damn that's clean! Not a speck of rust to be seen! :thumbsup:

Koooop
12-04-13, 01:18 AM
Obviously, you have been screwed.

Koooop
12-04-13, 01:47 PM
Good thing the tires are All Season.

MoistCabbage
12-05-13, 05:55 PM
The shipping is turning into a nightmare. If I knew someone personally in Canada, I'd pay them to drive it down and pay for a flight back.

MrHolland
12-05-13, 06:16 PM
Enter Mr.oldschool.....