: What's your "Lester Burnham" car?



I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-31-11, 12:19 PM
In the 1999 film, "American Beauty", the main character Lester Burnham (played spectacularly by Kevin Spacey), admits to his wife that his life is incredibly boring and to help relieve that boredom, he buys a 1970 Pontiac Firebird, a car that he's wanted since the first time he saw one, when he was a child and his cousin bought one brand new.
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So anyways, what's the car you've wanted since the first time you saw one when you were a child?


For me, it's the 1993-97 Camaro Z-28. Technically the 1993 because it's the first one I saw, but all the LT-1 models are awesome.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/vehicle-pictures/2002/chevrolet/camaro/93123251000118-480.jpg

In 1993, my mom's younger brother was still wrenching at the Chevy dealership, and we went down there once in 1992 or 1993 to bring him something, and I remember seeing the newly released '93 Camaro on their showfloor and loving it. I wanted the brochure (see how early that trend started??), but they kept them hidden away and I was too shy to ask the receptionist, but I asked my uncle and he grabbed one for me and brought it home for me one day. My mom was none too happy about that, but it started a love affair for me.

I've wanted one of those ever since, but living in Minnesota, they're not a practical car, especially for the 7 months of the year when a RWD sports car is almost useless. :lol: I wanted a Camaro or Trans Am for my first car, but my parents said no because of the insurance rates and the fact I WOULD get numerous speeding tickets in them (god only knows how many, lol).

As a matter of fact, because my parents said "NO!!" to the Camaro/Firebird when I was 14-15, I got interested in Cadillacs, Lincolns and Buicks because they usually had big V-8 engines in them and were always decently quick and made good sounds (all the things that mattered to a 16 year old male), but were cheaper to insure than a Camaro/Firebird would have been. Now here I am, 10 years later, loving the big cars, but still haven't scratched that itch for an LT-1 Camaro.

The big cars are great, but I think whenever I finally (lol) buy that first toy car I've wanted for so long, it'll be the Camaro. I haven't driven as many of them as I have Cadillacs, Lincolns, Buicks and Oldsmobiles, but I did drive one 95 Z-28, a mint condition, 41k mile white t-top coupe and haven't ever had as much fun behind the wheel. It just felt totally perfect for a guy my age...made all the right sounds, was very fast, and with the t-tops off on a perfect summer day, it was the most exciting drive I've had, while staying within the bounds of the speed limits. :lol:

Anyways, that's me. How about you?

Stingroo
07-31-11, 12:40 PM
A Lamborghini Diablo. I know - super rare and super expensive, but still. When I was about 5 my dad worked at a place called Vero Beach Motorsports. They sold VW, Mazda, Audi, and exotic cars. One of these Diablos came into the store while I was there, and I was in LOVE. I sat in it, I touched everything I was allowed to, I even remember how it SMELLED.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/DiabloSE_30.jpg/800px-DiabloSE_30.jpg

It looked just like that one. It was an uber rare SE30 model. I remember my dad buckling me into the race harness, and being unable to control the shit-eating grin on my face as I pretended to drive it in the show room. If you look at that pic, the windows actually don't go down. They're plexiglas. Only those tiny aircraft style windows work, and they just slide back and forth manually. Maybe that's why I think the Subaru SVX is so cool. Who knows.



I'll never own one... only TWENTY FIVE were imported to the US out of 150 built. :( I can dream though.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-31-11, 01:55 PM
i always wondered about those multipiece windows, so only the small piece can be opened on those?

side note: its amazinggly weird, maybe its just me, but a corvette looks biggish, a lamborghini diablo has always looked BIG to me, even in that pic it does, until you see the hulk that is the s class behind it, puts it all into perpective

The-Dullahan
07-31-11, 02:12 PM
http://www.tristatechapter.com/teague2.jpg

Mixed it up today and picked out a white one. This is one of the few cars ever made that looks good in white. Wanted one since I was Five. Spent a lot of time around them in my youth, learned to drive in one. WILL have one in my Garage someday.

The Corvettes and Lamborghinis probably look big because they have such a massive stance compared to overall vehicle height. Though they are not really big cars, their broad ground dimensions, mixed with the angles of the car, make them look large. Honestly, I do not personally think I could ever be happy with a car any smaller than my Lincoln, except for a few special exceptions, just because they are cars I like.

Stingroo
07-31-11, 02:50 PM
i always wondered about those multipiece windows, so only the small piece can be opened on those?

side note: its amazinggly weird, maybe its just me, but a corvette looks biggish, a lamborghini diablo has always looked BIG to me, even in that pic it does, until you see the hulk that is the s class behind it, puts it all into perpective

Yeah, on that particular Diablo only the small portion can be opened. Regular ones still had normal glass windows and such.

The Diablo's perceived bulk is mostly from its angles. The front end is so far down, and the car gradually rises in the back thanks to Lamborghini's cab-forward design to accommodate the massive V12 out back. I'm also pretty sure those rear wheels are 12-13 inches wide too - that helps.

vincentm
07-31-11, 03:19 PM
1959 Ford Fairlane Galaxy convertible, we had one growing up. My dad promised it to me if I graduated high school, he went back on his word and sold it.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-31-11, 03:28 PM
Yeah, on that particular Diablo only the small portion can be opened. Regular ones still had normal glass windows and such.

The Diablo's perceived bulk is mostly from its angles. The front end is so far down, and the car gradually rises in the back thanks to Lamborghini's cab-forward design to accommodate the massive V12 out back. I'm also pretty sure those rear wheels are 12-13 inches wide too - that helps.

another thing ive always wondered, wtf is a cab forward design

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-31-11, 04:53 PM
Shorter hood, bigger, longer cab and a bigger trunk.

Cab forward:
http://www.allpar.com/photos/eagle/vision/vision.jpg

Normal design:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/08/26/213743.2-lg.jpg

orconn
07-31-11, 05:30 PM
I have to admit my first, at age three, automotive infatuation was with hearses, Packard or Cadillac it didn't really make any difference, just the bigger and chromier the better. I went so far as expressing a definite preference for a convertible hearse, although I didn't get to see one, in the form a flower car, till many years later. My parents used to tell the story that my three year old ambition was to be a "hearse driver" when I grew up!

By the age of seven the hearse preoccupation had passed, my aunt and uncle had bought one of the first Jaguar XK 120's to come into the States and sent me a picture. Then one of my best friend's dad, the local Hudson dealer, got an XK 120 in on trade. From that point forward Jaguars were the object of my desires. I also had a thing for Hispano-Suiza's, which my father greatly admired (but they were no longer made), andand very rarely seen in the Los Angeles of the 1950's.

My mother, putting two and two together, managed to motivate higher academic achievement by promising me trips to "Peter Satori Sportscars," the local purveyor of British cars both high (Rolls, Bentley, Aston and Jaguar) and low (Morris Minor, Hillman Minx, Sunbeam Talbot) in return for "A's" on papers and tests. I managed to make regular visits to the dealership, where I was allowed to sit in the M.G.'s and Jags and take in the wonder of the aroma of "Connolly" leather.

In the years before I actually had a car of my own, when I was 22, I made do with cars from the family garage, a '56 Mercedes 300D sedan ( a real slug, but safe for a new driver), a 1957 Olds four door Holiday with J2 pack and a couple of Cad Fleetwoods (only when chauffeuring my dad, or for special occasions).

However, when it came time to buy my own, first car, I could not be deterred, and I bought my 1958 Jaguar XK 150 drophead. The cars was already seven years old, but had already been partially "restored" with a new red paint job, engine work and a new clutch job.

I drove that car as my daily driver for almost two years until it was totaled outside Decatur. Il by a drunk driver.

I wish I had been able to keep that Jag, as it remains to this day, one of my favorite cars!

Jesda
07-31-11, 06:25 PM
The car that's the solution to all of life's misery, the one object of desire, my answer to everything negative in the world:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2010/07/11/03/39/2009_cadillac_xlr-v_base-pic-8445915235830599911.jpeg

The XLR.



Before the XLR appeared, it was the first-generation Miata.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-31-11, 10:15 PM
the solution to all of life's misery, the one object of desire, my answer to everything negative in the world:.

I'll take "what is beer" for $500, Alex.

77CDV
07-31-11, 11:27 PM
For purely sentimental reasons:

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy44/mcclean_cycles/Ford carlisle 2011/427.jpg

1972 Ford Pinto station wagon, medium green with a green vinyl and cloth interior, similar to the above but without the aftermarket rims. It was my dad's car from about the time I was born and stayed in the family in some fashion until around 1982. It was coarse, loud, gutless, and utterly dependable. To this day, I can remember what that car sounded like and smelled like. In fact, if my sister hadn't pitched an unholy fit over having to drive it and convinced my dad to ditch it, it probably would have been my first car.

I don't know that I'd go out of my way to own one, but I do have a certain fondness for them.

Stingroo
07-31-11, 11:32 PM
My dad had one of those in high school with a 302 stuffed in it. :lol: Awesome.

gdwriter
08-01-11, 01:20 AM
It's in my garage. Took 15 years between when my Dad sold the one I grew up with until I found Betty. But it was worth it.

Aron9000
08-01-11, 02:45 AM
1985 Toyota 4x4 truck:

http://onscreencars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/marty_mcfly_truck.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/4wheeldrive/1/0/g/I/1/JAson_NC_85ToyPU_RR.jpg
http://image.4wheeloffroad.com/f/9038534+w750+st0/131_0601_05_z+1985_toyota_truck+front_view.jpg

IMO this is the best looking truck ever built. Just something about the square lines and the way the fenders are done. It looks rugged and stylish, but not overwrought or garish like a lot of newer trucks(especially the 99-06 Chevys and the late 90's Fords).

I am also a huge BTF fan, first saw this movie around 90-91. Dad also had a 1985 Toyota truck, but his was 2wd, extra cab, tan, with brown stripes, and brown tweed upholstery. First car I ever drove when I was 12 or 13, it wasn't an easy car to learn on being stick shift with no power steering.

The-Dullahan
08-01-11, 03:46 AM
I would also totally drive one of these, but it folds immediately when compared to a Mighty Hearse.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li22idoqmI1qezncyo1_500.jpg

Don't worry though Forum, when I get it, I'm letting Matt drive it and recording the entire ordeal on video...

brandondeleo
08-01-11, 04:52 AM
My dream car. This exact color combination and everything. Mmmmm....... :drool::cloud9:

orconn
08-01-11, 02:33 PM
My dream car. This exact color combination and everything. Mmmmm....... :drool::cloud9:

Never had much of a desire to have a Chevy, not that there aren't some great ones, but if I could only have one Chevy, a 1956 Bel Air convertible would be the one! I'd prefer it to be turquoise and white with the stock deluxe hubcaps.

Back in the late sixties I had the opportunity to drive a '56 Bel Air V-8 three speed stick that was in immaculate original condition. It wasn't a convertible, but a two door sedan, to this day I remember what a nice, straight forward, pleasant car it was to drive. Nothing really special, except it did what it did in a smooth and pleasant manner that made it a really nice car to drive.

As far as design goes I like the '56 the best out the outstanding '55,'56,'57 trio. The 1956 had fun flair to it that makes it standout in my mind. I could never warm up to the sought after 1957, to me it was a let down after the preceding two models. 1957 was a banner year for good looking cars and the Chevs just didn't stack up well against the small Buicks and Olds, not to mention Pontiacs of that year. In 1958 the reverse was true with the Buicks and Olds being the "ugly ducklings" (I know, Chad, you really like the looks of those abominable barges!) and Chevy set a a new standard of low priced good looks (Pontiac was pretty good in '58 also.

I am glad to hear that cars of this era still appeal to some of younger enthusiasts!

ryannel2003
08-01-11, 06:09 PM
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/seville.jpg

From about the age of 8 or 10 I remember always seeing at Blue SLS near my grandfathers house and always admiring how good it looked. After awhile I lost site of the car until I started working at the Cadillac dealership. Well we all know what happened after that...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/272533_10150210936001895_580256894_7595990_3233046 _o.jpg

BTW I didn't want silver. I wanted the black one originally pictured.

gdwriter
08-01-11, 07:27 PM
I remember when the fourth-generation Seville debuted in the fall of 1991. After seeing Cadillac fall into the abyss during the 1980s, the new Seville was a revelation. There was life beyond garish wire covers and tacky cabriolet roofs.

I had long admired Cadillacs (other than the horrible 80s models), but never thought I'd actually own one.

The-Dullahan
08-02-11, 01:58 AM
The horrible 80s models.

There was always Hope.

http://www.mcsmk8.com/89-BRGM-NEW/CARS-40.JPG

Stingroo
08-02-11, 02:11 AM
ANYTHING from Matt Garett's collection would pretty much qualify as amazing.

96Fleetwood
08-02-11, 09:05 AM
BMW 850 csi.... one day I will own one :yup:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_pcF04RKkbWs/TVzJ0eoGfaI/AAAAAAAAABM/gMFCanuLxjw/BMW_850CSi_03.jpg

Stingroo
08-02-11, 10:18 AM
Yeah. There we go.

The 8-series is honestly the only BMW I find attractive. Do want.

EcSTSatic
08-02-11, 01:40 PM
1959 Ford Fairlane Galaxy convertible, we had one growing up. My dad promised it to me if I graduated high school, he went back on his word and sold it.

The retractable or the ragtop? My folks owned the retractable. It was a novelty and I loved it as a kid. Today not so much. They even shipped it back and forth from Germany when he was stationed there. This was the early/mid sixties, gas wasn't a problem.

brandondeleo
08-02-11, 03:35 PM
BMW 850 csi.... one day I will own one :yup:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_pcF04RKkbWs/TVzJ0eoGfaI/AAAAAAAAABM/gMFCanuLxjw/BMW_850CSi_03.jpgI've seen one of those! I was like WTF IS THAT??? Lol. I saw one parked in front of the Seattle Art Museum, and two people who looked like they thought they were extremely important. Haha

orconn
08-02-11, 04:05 PM
I had two neighbors that each had one of the 850's back around 2000. I thought the cars were nice looking but rather non-descript ..... sort of neutral in the extreme. The other thing I noticed was that each of them seemed to be driving a "loaner car" from the BMW agency a lot more than they were getting to drive their own 850's! For me I like the 6's of the seventies and eighties better.

brandondeleo
08-02-11, 04:20 PM
1975 E25 BMW Turbo.

MacMuse
08-02-11, 05:00 PM
1 please, don't forget the T-tops.

http://www.firebirdtransamparts.com/hogheadgarage/briansy88-2/78%20Firebird%20Gold%20Ed.%20TA%20Ad.jpg

brandondeleo
08-02-11, 05:10 PM
1 please, don't forget the T-tops.

http://www.firebirdtransamparts.com/hogheadgarage/briansy88-2/78%20Firebird%20Gold%20Ed.%20TA%20Ad.jpgHoly crap dude, do you have a mullet and listen to Billy Ray Cyrus?

Stingroo
08-02-11, 05:13 PM
To hell with your misconceptions! I'd love a '78 T/A. Insert Pontiac 400 please.

orconn
08-02-11, 05:43 PM
Holy crap dude, do you have a mullet and listen to Billy Ray Cyrus?

Funny thing, my wife didn't have a mullet and certainly didn't listen to Billy Ray, but she did have a brand new 1978 Pontiac Firebird Esorit, silver with red interior, with a 350 in it. One of the great seventies designs, acclaimed by the best in the fashion and design field. They were put together very well and the materials used in the interiors wasn't the best, but they sure got the job done for many a teenager who got one on the used market. A friend of mine, Hal Needham, really put these cars on the map when wrote and directed "Smokey and the Bandit" way back when. The seventies Firebird would certainly be a part of any collection of mid century Americana!

gdwriter
08-02-11, 05:52 PM
If I were going to do a second-generation Firebird, I'd go with what Jim Rockford drove:

http://www.imcdb.org/i352819.jpg

Not crazy about the 70s color, but much cleaner than a Formula or T/A, and I love the Rally IIs.

orconn
08-02-11, 05:58 PM
If I were going to do a second-generation Firebird, I'd go with what Jim Rockford drove:

http://www.imcdb.org/i352819.jpg

Not crazy about the 70s color, but much cleaner than a Formula or T/A, and I love the Rally IIs.

That's like the one my wife had, only her's was silver with a red interior and didn't have the ugly ding protector strip. She chose the Esprit over the 400 and the Trans Am because it was a much prettier design without all the "kid racer" stick ons.

brandondeleo
08-02-11, 06:01 PM
OMG OMG OMG Esprit. Pretty.

The-Dullahan
08-03-11, 04:38 AM
ANYTHING from Matt Garett's collection would pretty much qualify as amazing.

Actually, I just abuse Google Image Search, because I refused to post a photo of a third car in this gallery that WASN'T black. The thought that there are already more than two cars in creation that are not black utterly terrifies me.