: Wrapping your whole car in vinyl



agp
07-25-11, 09:59 PM
Has anyone done it? I've been seeing a lot of videos of cars wrapped in 3M's matte black vinyl and it looks very cool. Does anyone know how much it would cost to have a shop do it?

maeng9981
07-27-11, 08:41 AM
Dunno how much it would cost, but I agree that it looks pretty cool. These are what I've looked at in real life:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7572/sam0397q.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3585/sam0399q.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7256/sam0189w.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5542/sam0190i.jpg

Stingroo
07-27-11, 08:49 AM
I love and adore satin black. <3

No clue on the vinyl thing though.

Rodya234
07-27-11, 08:50 AM
Yeah the CTS, especially V-Series, owners would be able to tell you.

And that CTS in the first picture as V emblems but base wheels/brakes :nono:

RippyPartsDept
07-27-11, 09:19 AM
:nono:
:yeah:

maeng9981
07-27-11, 01:19 PM
And that CTS in the first picture as V emblems but base wheels/brakes :nono:

That's actually this :) Some of the Cadillac fans in Korea made them and put them on their cars. That was when the V version of CTS was not imported to Korea.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1352/dsc06191o.jpg

johnny kannapo
07-27-11, 02:30 PM
Its pretty much a decal with adhesive backing that is somewhat difficult to remove. Heat & chemicals are needed after time it become more difficult. Chemicals are the only efficient way to remove the adhesive and the chemical is stressing paint. I have to say I kinda like the look on that CTS.

gary88
07-27-11, 04:13 PM
Black vinyl wrapping is so 2004.

orconn
07-27-11, 05:21 PM
I once wrapped the hood of my '64 Jaguar E-type coupe in white plastic wrap with "Trojan" stencilled on it. It was the "Safe Sex" float in a National Health Week parade in Los Angeles!

Wrapping your car in black vinyl stribes me as rather "kinky" if not verging on perverted.

agp
07-27-11, 08:01 PM
Are those vinyl wraps or just paint jobs?

Stingroo
07-27-11, 08:08 PM
Hard to tell. Some of the really good 3M vinyl wraps look excellent and come with nice warranties to boot. There's lots of discussion on this in the CTS-V forums as someone mentioned before.

77CDV
07-28-11, 12:26 AM
Hard to tell. Some of the really good 3M vinyl wraps look excellent and come with nice warranties to boot. There's lots of discussion on this in the CTS-V forums as someone mentioned before.

I'm having bad flashbacks to that ricer we saw in FL last year with the "carbon fiber" hood.

Stingroo
07-28-11, 12:33 AM
No no no! This is legit. This is not rubberized crap from Home Depot.

:lol: I remember when I pointed it out, I was like "Whoa, an actual carbon fibre hood?!" and was severely disappointed - but got many laughs from it....

agp
07-28-11, 09:25 AM
Yea but wrapping something in matte black is different from wrapping something in carbon fiber.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 10:21 AM
heres one someone did with his own materials. I believe he is a member here as well...

His cost was 400 and he did the work himself. well, from the thread title i understood it cost him 400, it may have not cost him anything.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/eyekandy19/P1030125.jpg

http://allante.us/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1310330432

Stingroo
07-28-11, 10:29 AM
I would SO do that to the wagon.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 11:02 AM
Even in badass matte black that Coupe looks cheap compared to the V Coupe, i cant put my finger on it

Rodya234
07-28-11, 01:08 PM
I don't really like matte black cars. I'm of the opinion that cars should have sheen and luster. Matte black makes the car look like they put the primer on and forgot about the rest of the paint job.

Stingroo
07-28-11, 01:14 PM
That's flat black you're thinking of, good sir.

77CDV
07-28-11, 01:34 PM
I'm very stupid, so please bear with me: what would be the point/benefit of doing this to a car (other than individual asthetic preference)?

brandondeleo
07-28-11, 01:42 PM
I imagine it would be tougher? Like a whole-car scratch protector? Just guessing here.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 01:42 PM
(other than individual asthetic preference)?
none

Stingroo
07-28-11, 01:55 PM
One could remove it if they ever tire of it.

gary88
07-28-11, 02:11 PM
I imagine it would be tougher? Like a whole-car scratch protector? Just guessing here.

That's what 3M film is for.

http://i.imgur.com/xwee6.png

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 02:24 PM
That's what 3M film is for.

http://i.imgur.com/xwee6.png
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7256/sam0189w.jpg

im gonna have to disagree. the CTS much more closely resembles the image on the left than on the right

Stingroo
07-28-11, 02:28 PM
Again.

The CTS = satin black
That truck on the right of Gary88's image = flat black


THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. STOP CONFUSING THEM, PEOPLE.

Rodya234
07-28-11, 02:34 PM
That CTS coupe doesn't look too bad, but the V beside it just looks so much better.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 02:34 PM
Again.

The CTS = satin black
That truck on the right of Gary88's image = flat black


THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. STOP CONFUSING THEM, PEOPLE.

on top of that, the panels on the truck dont match each other. so its not a valid comparison.

Submariner409
07-28-11, 02:52 PM
I'm gonna do the entire STS in black stick-on velour. Not only will it be nice to rub up against, but it will also not reflect laser beams.

Ranger
07-28-11, 03:08 PM
Kind of looks like it was being repainted and they ran out of money after it was primed so they tried to buff it out and that was the best they could do, but to each his own I guess. :noidea:

gary88
07-28-11, 03:15 PM
uglywrap.jpg

im gonna have to disagree. the CTS much more closely resembles the image on the left than on the right

This still looks 1000x better

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2039/richpvcoupemay201110.jpg

Matte/satin finishes are the suck :coffee:

OffThaHorseCEO
07-28-11, 03:41 PM
all except that fuel filler door. that should be an electrical outlet



I kid i kid

gary88
07-28-11, 04:02 PM
He's here all week folks :rimshot:

GizmoQ
07-28-11, 08:39 PM
My artist's rendering:
http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/GizmoQ/European%20Vacation/FireFox/cadillac-xlrracingVpaint.jpg

MacMuse
07-28-11, 08:57 PM
I was gonna say -- don't let GizmoQ see that.

Then I saw who posted that XLR wrap.

Come on - do the chrome wrap version - you know you want it.

GizmoQ
07-28-11, 11:34 PM
I was gonna say -- don't let GizmoQ see that.

Then I saw who posted that XLR wrap.

Come on - do the chrome wrap version - you know you want it.

If I do it, it'll only be on the sides from the door back and 1/4 of the trunk. The wrap guys here want to wrap the hood in black carbon fiber, but unless they pay for it , I'm not buying. One thing I will admit - it;s actually cheaper than painting. Maybe this winter, who knows.

My poor, cheap Paint rendering shows the goal is to get this effect on my black car:
http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/GizmoQ/European%20Vacation/FireFox/cts-vracecarrearangleview.jpg

orconn
07-29-11, 12:18 AM
My artist's rendering:
http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/GizmoQ/European%20Vacation/FireFox/cadillac-xlrracingVpaint.jpg

My first impression is that the car looks like a remote truck for a local TV station. Second impression is that it looks like a car from Channel 4 News. Either way I think it looked better before the wrapping!

Aron9000
07-29-11, 01:12 AM
Flat black makes me think of a junky beater car somebody, very amateurishly, tried to paint themselves.

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/34732339538.jpg?1296199041

Stingroo
07-29-11, 07:21 AM
Or you could be like this guy, who did do it himself, and it came out pretty damn good:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx30/toomanytoyz2/2011-07-25_19-04-22_73.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx30/toomanytoyz2/2011-07-25_19-05-25_833.jpg

IMO it makes the lines on the vehicle stand out more. Satin FTW.

Aron9000
07-29-11, 07:43 AM
^ That S10 looks decent IMO. Its just that my truck is about 1/5th factory paint that's faded to a semi gloss black, 3/5ths flat black house paint with very obvious brush marks, and about 1/5th sprayed on flat black primer, which got all over the windows and window trim. The wheels I think were once silver, or maybe all flat black and the factory black chipped off to expose the silver.


Anyways, flat black is fine for a beater truck, Jeep, or other such rig that is guaranteed to get scratched/dented/beat all to hell. I think it just looks silly on a brand new $70k car, as it makes it look "old" and "beat to shit" IMO.

Stingroo
07-29-11, 07:50 AM
SATIN

Gah. People. They are different.

brandondeleo
07-29-11, 07:58 AM
Tee hee.....

Koooop
07-29-11, 09:09 AM
I think this process could replace painting cars.

http://www.iconographystudios.net/color-change-vehicle-wrap-on-a-rolls-royce-phantom/

I understand you can remove the wrap without damage to the paint once you're done with it.

brandondeleo
07-29-11, 09:11 AM
That is interesting... Whoever would put that yellow on a car like that must be bitchslapped, but interesting nonetheless. Lol

Stingroo
07-29-11, 10:16 AM
Their car - their color. If I ever had enough money for a Phantom I would paint it bright metallic orange and not give a f*ck. :thumbsup:

CIWS
07-29-11, 06:16 PM
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7256/sam0189w.jpg



Sewell was trying to sell that thing for 67K. As I suspected they still own it (at least at the time of the photo) and I believe they painted theirs.

bill57
07-30-11, 12:55 AM
I once wrapped the hood of my '64 Jaguar E-type coupe in white plastic wrap with "Trojan" stencilled on it. It was the "Safe Sex" float in a National Health Week parade in Los Angeles!

Wrapping your car in black vinyl stribes me as rather "kinky" if not verging on perverted.

Wrapping a car in a condom seems more perverted or "kinky" to me.

maeng9981
07-31-11, 05:49 AM
Sewell was trying to sell that thing for 67K. As I suspected they still own it (at least at the time of the photo) and I believe they painted theirs.

At some point of time I no longer see this CTS at cars and coffee anymore, probably it's sold?

agp
07-31-11, 09:43 AM
Maybe I'll just wrap my roof in black... Is a heatgun required for applying vinyl?

JimmyH
07-31-11, 01:06 PM
I think this process could replace painting cars.

http://www.iconographystudios.net/color-change-vehicle-wrap-on-a-rolls-royce-phantom/

I understand you can remove the wrap without damage to the paint once you're done with it.


I agree. Sometime in the future, wrapping will replace paint. Eventually, someone will come up with some process and material that will wrap a car in a couple hours, maybe less. When that happens, it will be the end of automotive painting.

JimmyH
07-31-11, 01:07 PM
as for wrapping your car, not exactly SATIN (lulz):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYbBaKD0nLc

agp
07-31-11, 01:27 PM
Now you no longer need to polish your car to get it to be shinny...

dkozloski
07-31-11, 01:47 PM
NASCAR has had stunning vinyl wrapped cars for years.

The vinyl wraps you see on NASCAR haulers are unbelievable.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-31-11, 02:30 PM
how do you care for these wraps? do they react negatively to waxes polymers soaps etc etc etc
how does bird crap affect these wraps
how about stone chips, can it be touched up or does it need to be completely reapplied.
in the event of an accident, can it be repaired or does it need to be reapplied

Stingroo
07-31-11, 02:37 PM
NASCAR has had stunning vinyl wrapped cars for years.

The vinyl wraps you see on NASCAR haulers are unbelievable.

This is true. The haulers are pretty awesome.

agp
07-31-11, 03:22 PM
how do you care for these wraps? do they react negatively to waxes polymers soaps etc etc etc
how does bird crap affect these wraps
how about stone chips, can it be touched up or does it need to be completely reapplied.
in the event of an accident, can it be repaired or does it need to be reapplied

I think how it reacts with car washers or birdpoo can be found on the 3M box that contains the vinyl. As of chips or accidents, I'm sure you can just reapply that certain part of the car instead of the entire car.

agp
07-31-11, 03:23 PM
Anyway, I just ordered a 1 x 5 feet roll of the 3M matte black vinyl, I'll share some results/experiences after I apply it.

RippyPartsDept
07-31-11, 07:05 PM
vinyl wraps are 'fleeting'

paint is forever (well not literally...)

Stingroo
07-31-11, 07:12 PM
I was gonna say... I live in Florida - paint is certainly not forever. :lol:

agp
07-31-11, 07:25 PM
Then vinyl wraps certainly wouldn't be either

JimmyH
07-31-11, 07:54 PM
Vinyl wrap...I am surprised I haven't gotten any wheel wrap jabs yet...

Stingroo
07-31-11, 08:20 PM
No.

This is cool. :lol:

Jimmy, do you have a dog? If so, wrap him or her in this:

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/5614/073012093501.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/073012093501.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Spotted it at work. :lol:

JimmyH
07-31-11, 10:25 PM
Nope, no dog. I have enough freeloaders living in my house already.

I am still trying to find adult size underoos though. I would love me some optimus prime briefs.

OffThaHorseCEO
07-31-11, 11:22 PM
http://iseenitall.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/leathercoatedcar.jpg

vinyl wrap

agp
08-01-11, 09:41 PM
What the **** is that?

gary88
08-01-11, 09:53 PM
Peugeot 307 wrapped in leather.

JimmyH
08-02-11, 03:44 PM
take the top off altogether because you probably don't want to drive that in the rain

OffThaHorseCEO
08-02-11, 08:35 PM
can you imagine the amount of leatherique needed for that?


i guess the savings on car wax makes up for it

Koooop
08-02-11, 11:58 PM
My friends Dad wrapped his motorhome in green fuzz in the early '70's. This is just re-living a bad dream for me.

MacMuse
08-03-11, 07:59 AM
My friends Dad wrapped his motorhome in green fuzz in the early '70's. This is just re-living a bad dream for me.

Yeah, the drugs back then really made people do some stooooopid stuff.






So I hear.

I just put Marantz bookshelf speakers under the rear couch of our conversion van.

Longsnapper52
08-03-11, 12:59 PM
That's actually this :) Some of the Cadillac fans in Korea made them and put them on their cars. That was when the V version of CTS was not imported to Korea.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1352/dsc06191o.jpg

I guess that explains the photo of the Euro model with Koreans standing next to a car with a Korean license plate...lolz

concorso
08-04-11, 11:59 AM
how do you care for these wraps? do they react negatively to waxes polymers soaps etc etc etc
how does bird crap affect these wraps
how about stone chips, can it be touched up or does it need to be completely reapplied.
in the event of an accident, can it be repaired or does it need to be reappliedPlastic polish like Plexus works very well.

javi_ctsv
12-04-12, 05:42 PM
100715

this is my 05 cts v matte white. its full vinyl wrap with a gloss black roof which i might do flat black still not sure. i did the wrap my self it took us about two weeks but we dint work on it every day.

orconn
12-04-12, 05:48 PM
I once wrapped the front of my E-type Jaguar coupe in white vinyl and entered it in a "Health Week" parade as a safe sex float! This was back in the mid eighties ..... probably would get much attention today!

CadillacLuke24
12-04-12, 07:17 PM
100715

this is my 05 cts v matte white. its full vinyl wrap with a gloss black roof which i might do flat black still not sure. i did the wrap my self it took us about two weeks but we dint work on it every day.

Looks great :D :thumbsup:

The-Dullahan
12-04-12, 09:34 PM
Most times, my cars (typically the Pontiac or Cadillac, depending on circumstances) are wrapped in naked or scantily-clad women. Maybe Orconn's onto something with that safety vinyl.

Then again, I've wrapped the Cadillac in gore once too. I regret nothing.

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as for wrapping your car, not exactly SATIN (lulz):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYbBaKD0nLc

I saw a Mercedes like that, last time I was in Saint Augustine. Nearly caused an accident, so many people laughing at it instead of watching the damned traffic signals. Pretty sure I may still have the dashcam footage.

dkozloski
12-05-12, 12:47 PM
The NASCAR guys can wrap a car in hours and that includes dozens of sponsor decals. It's a whole lot easier when you know what you're doing.

Those fancy city buses with all the flashy ads are wrapped.

The-Dullahan
12-05-12, 03:59 PM
^This.

I've never heard of anyone taking more than a day to do a vinyl wrap. Then again, since most cars I see getting it done are fairly small, that may be why. I know some people in Orlando who do it for a living actually. Probably a useless connection to have, as it's not something I'd ever waste my time having someone do, but it has gotten sort of popular over the last few years and I have sent them quite a lot of business. I think that most of their business however comes from companies having their fleet vehicles wrapped. I prefer to keep my fleet vehicles boring and plain. Better for business.

thebigjimsho
12-09-12, 01:38 AM
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100715"/>

this is my 05 cts v matte white. its full vinyl wrap with a gloss black roof which i might do flat black still not sure. i did the wrap my self it took us about two weeks but we dint work on it every day.

That looks awesome! Probably not so big on the matte, but its hard to see in the rain. But I hate how Cadillac doesn't have a classic white. I think the Vs look awesome in white, and not the diamond kind...

quikss
12-25-12, 08:29 PM
I have several of my company vans with full wraps on them. I have 3 that have had the same wrap on them for a few years now.

As for how it holds up, they go through car washes quite often and hold up just fine. I have never seen any adverse reaction to bird crap or any other chemical to this point. It can be scratched, but in my opinion, a small scratch in the vinyl would have equaled a pretty darn significant gouge in paint. The vinyl seems to stand up to "hits" a bit better. If you do damage it, you simply go back to whoever did it and have them replace that one piece. It could be a big piece or it could be a small one, all depends on the vehicle and where you need replaced. I pay about $1900 or so to get Chevy Express 2500 vans fully wrapped. I had the same company give me an estimate to wrap my V about month ago which I may do over the winter. The estimate was around $1400. In my opinion, way, way, way cheaper than making a really expensive mistake painting the car and then realizing that may have looked better in your head than it does rolling out of the paint booth. The first van I ever had done, I had designed by an advertising company. It came out of the shop and I told them to roll it back in and peel it off. I hated it, just way too busy for me. $1900 gone, but 2 days later it came back out with my own design and all my vans are done like that now. Doesnt matter what color van I buy either anymore, I can take whatever is the cheapest color on the lot because its getting fully wrapped anyways

Jeff