: Cadillac Hubcap Color Insert



sven914
07-06-11, 06:44 PM
I've been looking for a set of color inserts for my Seville hubcaps, but can't find any for RWD hubcaps. I've seen them on RWD's, (like on the hearse that Aron just posed in the Craigslist Thread).

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$%28KGrHqR,!jgE2vLDWjrOBO!8iUbcIw~~_4.JPG

USA Part's Supply sells new (uncolored) inserts, but for Eldorado hubcaps. Does anyone know if the Eldorado inserts are the same ones people put on the RWD hubcaps? If not, where can I get the right ones?

DouglasJRizzo
07-06-11, 07:41 PM
this was an option on RWD cars in 76. they are quite rare. the eldorado disc had a black center as standard. there was also a turbine vane disc for 76 that had a black center.

sven914
07-06-11, 07:53 PM
I've seen them painted to the car's body color. That's what I'd be doing with them.

77CDV
07-06-11, 09:12 PM
These inserts were originally made from the same urethane material used in the bumper fillers. So, if you could get hold of bulk material, you could likely fabricate what you want.

sven914
07-06-11, 11:10 PM
Urethane sheets are a little expensive; if I'm looking at the right material, it would cost about $100 for a 2-foot square.

The inserts I'm looking at will only cost $60 for 4. They're from USA Part's Supply (Item #5.858AR) (http://www.usapartssupply.com/uploads/USA_PARTS_1971-1985_Cadillac_Catalog.pdf) and the catalog list them for '74-'78 Eldorado hubcaps.

Was there a difference in size between the inserts for the Eldorado and the ones for the Fleetwood/de Ville?

77CDV
07-07-11, 03:11 AM
The Eldo's are larger.

sven914
07-07-11, 02:49 PM
Thank you... I guess I'll try to hunt down some bulk urethane sheets.

jayoldschool
07-07-11, 05:35 PM
Is the cap flat where the insert goes? You could just get vinyl cut and put the emblem on top.

77CDV
07-08-11, 02:25 AM
That's really all GM did with the urethane.

sven914
07-08-11, 09:54 PM
I got a look at some Eldo hubcaps and the diameter of the face is only an inch larger than the flat surface on the Seville caps. I'm going to get one insert form USA Supply and see how much of a bitch it is to trim to the right size (and keep round).

DouglasJRizzo
07-09-11, 03:41 PM
The Eldorado cover is unique. It has an outward facing offset to clear the wheels. The black facia is trimmed differently as well. Color keyed discs were first seen from the factory on the 1977 Fleetwood Brougham and Limousine. Optional on DeVilles.

The "problem" if you could call it that, was that at the time, everyone was going gaga for the Wires. They're nice, but I always preferred the Turbines myself. Because of this, the other discs are a little tougher to come by.

Bro-Ham
07-09-11, 04:55 PM
77 and 78 Fleetwood Broughams and Limousines used the color keyed wheel covers as standard, they are different looking than the 76 wheel covers shown at the top. I had a set from my 78 Fleetwood limousine, they look very classy!

sven914
07-09-11, 08:42 PM
^Right... They were on the turbine-vane hubcaps.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5284/5331762240_514ce716ed.jpg

Looking at some pictures, the face looks to be the same size as the Eldorado hubcaps, so I was probably thinking of these, and not one of the sets I have. Thanks Dave.

DouglasJRizzo
07-09-11, 09:45 PM
Gorgeous Brougham! Looks like a 79. Carmine red?

sven914
07-09-11, 09:52 PM
Not mine... Stole it from Google...

Go to Flickr and find "That Hartford Guy." He has over 8000 pictures of classic cars (mostly Cadillac) and I go there when I need a good example.

Here is the Link to the guy's photo stream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/)

DouglasJRizzo
07-10-11, 12:05 AM
cool. thanks!

Bro-Ham
07-10-11, 04:13 PM
I realize this is subtle, but compared to the wheel covers at the top of this thread on a 76 Cad, those 76 caps are different from the 77-78 Fleetwood caps if you look at the vanes which are less pronounced and fine, plus the center cap does not protrude as much. Look at this to see what I mean - these are identical to the wheel covers that were on my 78 Fleetwood Limousine: http://www.collectorcarsforsale.com/parts/1977-78-CADILLAC-FLEETWOOD-BROUGHAM-HUBCAP-WHEEL-COVER-For-Sale_350454005355.html

Bro-Ham
07-10-11, 04:18 PM
One more thing, the 79 red Fleetwood shown in Sven's post seems to have the 76 style wheel covers on it, with the center cap painted to match the body - it also appears to have the interior from a late 80's/early 90's Brougham? Am I imagining that? Anyway, those color keyed wheel covers were not offered from the factory in that style in 1979 if I remember correctly.

jayoldschool
07-10-11, 04:54 PM
Yep, those seats are later non-D'Elegance.

sven914
08-03-11, 01:21 PM
Thanks to Dave, I reconsider the vinyl inserts and realized it would be easier and cheaper to just paint the hubcaps.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2503/2889/31256444073_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2503/2889/31256444074_large.jpg

It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to clear coat them, but I don't want a real mirror shine. The face was brushed stainless that wasn't too reflective, and the painted surface just about equals that. These are going right next the '80 de Ville caps as a fair weather wheel cover.

Bro-Ham
08-03-11, 01:35 PM
Very Fancy Sven! Show us what they look like on the car! :)

sven914
08-03-11, 01:52 PM
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2503/2889/31256444075_large.jpg

Bro-Ham
08-03-11, 03:12 PM
Very Reagan era with those wheel covers and the wide whites! I love it Sven! :) :) :) :)

outsider
08-03-11, 03:20 PM
agree, looks great.

water walkin warrior
08-03-11, 03:57 PM
Is it just me or do Brougham's look better on a rainy day? lol Mine looks beautiful in the rain.

sven914
08-03-11, 04:51 PM
Thanks... Reagan was my favorite republican.

I think they look better than they would have with the vinyl inserts; I don't think they would be as shiny. And I like taking pictures in the rain (or on overcast days) because on sunny days, you can't see the car through the glaring chrome, and when you can see past the glare, the light shows every minor imperfection and dust spot on the paint.

CBodyFan
08-03-11, 11:44 PM
They look better in the rain because the water adds an extra shine to everything. Plus, years ago when cars had birght trim (chrome and stainless) they used filers so that you saw the chrome but it didn't dominate and blind the camera.