: CadillacPimpinNOLA's 95 Fleetwood buildup 56K your computer will blow up

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07-01-11, 12:07 AM
since several people asked me too...ill start from the beginning, its in progress so as I do more work ill update it.

this is my 1st time seeing the car when a co-worker found it after i told him a few different models i was interested in. took a month to get in touch with him cuz no one lived at the house.


was really dirty from sitting all them years after the owner passed away. the uncle didnt want to fool with it and it wouldnt start. he said make an offer. I made an offer for $1000 how it sits with 16,495 miles on the odometer, he accepted and i towed it home a few days later. dropped the fuel tank and put a new fuel pump in, cleaned the injectors and it fired right up the first day i got it home.

then i gave it a good cleaning inside and out


started with the chrome rocker moldings

cleaned the factory dry-rotted tires and rolled them for a few months till i had a blow-out

carpet was kinda funky so i pulled it out and cleaned it, new jute and it put it back in, good time to run some wires for the radio and future stereo


cleaned up shortly after i got it, sitting next to my lil mini truck

still had the other guys handicap plate

looks pretty nice on the underside

not long after getting the car I had to change the tires and A/C compressor was leaking out the seal.

First Day of driving it i had to clean the engine. this is what it looks like 365 a year. gets a lil dusty but i just clean it again


07-01-11, 12:08 AM
swapped the battery out for an Optima YellowTop in preparation for the big sound system

spent a small fortune on dynamat for the stereo and to prevent any rattles what so ever. when complete you wont see any of the shiny material


was a pain to get the headliner out so i left it in the car while i done the roof. it sucked running around to each side but i got it done


had to cut the back deck up for the 4 6x9"S which now im not even gonna use

all the doors are covered also, on the interior skin and the skeleton where the panel goes

07-01-11, 12:09 AM
soon after that I Installed a viper remote start alarm with a few extra sensors to keep it a lil bit safer. non of that will be shown

smoothed and painted the dash 1st time, had an issuse and it cracked

come back better, sanded it down again, fiberglassed it, sealed the airbag blow off cover too. dont know why i didnt take a pic after it was painted

found a nice spot for the aftermarket tweeters

12 gallon airtank, valves and compressors for the air ride, no latch because I installed actuators on each trunk hinge

07-01-11, 12:09 AM
finally after having the car for a while decided to fix the 1/4 panel from the previous owners accident. used very little filler. the paint doesnt match perfectly right now b/c i didnt want to pull the door apart to blend it so we just panel painted it. I plan on repainting it to the factory color but wet sanded and polished

painted around the gauge cluster

started sanding the rocker panel interior pieces and under dash panels, no more texture

heres where we get current, I cut a new back dash out of 3/4 MDF

cut the center out, the 3rd brake light cover will probally be fiberglassed to the outter ring, it will be painted to match the car, the center piece was suppoed to have 4 6x9"s recessed under it and covered in a nice black grill type cloth. tweaters stuck up to high and the outer speakers hit the trunk hinges. i find this out after i cut the panel.

I defy carpenters, measure twice, cut once, you can always cut more but you cant put it back, Yea i call BS.i got some heavy duty liquid nail and glued both sides, made sure it was all in there, a lil filler to smooth it out and i had a whole board again


07-01-11, 12:10 AM
good as new

ran the 2 runs of 0 Gauge wire through the firewall, made it unnoticable to

sanded those panels after priming them and now ready for paint

painted, i just installed this stuff today 6-30-2011, dont have pics of the drivers side b/c it was dark out

4 gauge wire that was temporary will be removed soon


This is it for now, as I do more i will post more. Thanks

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07-01-11, 12:26 AM
Don't bother with reserved posts, unfortunately you can only edit posts for 24 hours.

I LOVE the painted door sills. Nice touch man.

07-01-11, 12:30 AM
everyone who has seen it has loved it today, my friend wants me to do his in his truck...my hand was vibrating for 2 days after i was done. in those 4 peices i think i have a 4.5 hours sanding. then i have the 2 A-pillars out getting that 8 inch piece that ties into the rocker moldings done

07-01-11, 12:58 AM
Holly crap! Nice work! So with the A-pillers, the 8" piece you are talking about is the little strip that goes down along the dash, right? Not the more visible part above the dash? Also, are the trunk actuators the only things that hold the trunk down or does it latch/lock in place? I see a spot in a few car magazines with your name on it.

07-01-11, 08:25 AM
That's awesome man! Gives me inspiration to work on the interior of my 69!

I've started disassembling it already and with these great pics you've given me some ideas

07-01-11, 09:14 AM
Awesome work. The pillar trim really sets it off.

You got a great deal on that car - $1k for a 16k mile car is insane. And it's a great color, too.

07-01-11, 10:28 AM
Yes! Painted door sills look freaking AWESOME!
Very nice custom touch!

I like the purple pimp hat in one of the last pics! LoL

07-01-11, 11:35 AM
Looks awesome man! Keep up the good work!

07-01-11, 12:24 PM
Excellent work , it's been a pleasure to see these cool images

07-01-11, 03:23 PM
the hat is actually Blue, what better than getting the car for $1000 is the $200 bill of sale to cut down on taxes, i love the color and the fact that it has no vinyl top, the actuators are the only thing that holds the trunk down, they are pretty strong. and yes the part of the 8" pillar that goes down the side of the dash to connect to the parts i just painted.

somewhere not pictured I added an all chrome E&G grill. I have 4 new vogue tires that i plan to put on some TWW 15" super poke 83 rims "factory cadillac rim with a 1" of poke added", add a continental kit, repaint to factory color, undecided on tint cuz of the crack downs now. install my air suspension and finish the trunk and stereo. little by little

07-01-11, 11:07 PM
The door sills are IMPRESSIVE. Great work post as many pics as you can, NO ONE will complain.

07-02-11, 02:31 PM
just took this one a few minutes ago. the driver side done and installed and the front shot with the E&G grill


07-03-11, 02:52 PM
found an old pic, about a year old right after i washed it up


this was when I went to look at it for the 1st time, hooked the jump box up to it and my jaw almost hit the ground

parked like a king at the casino valet

07-03-11, 03:08 PM
Holy shit, 16k miles?!

That's nothing short of epic!

07-03-11, 03:12 PM
yep, but as i drive it everyday, took it to biloxi, Ms a few times. its at 31K now, still lower than any around.

07-04-11, 01:26 AM
shoot, I wish mine had low miles. I'm pushing 177,000 miles.

07-04-11, 12:21 PM
I will never call my dad's ride as low mileage lol

07-07-11, 10:17 AM
And you did all this yourself?... Also, how much do you have invested in it, because after I get back from medical school, I might drop my Lincoln (73 Mark IV) off at your place and say have fun inside. :) My Fleetwood would be after that. :)

07-07-11, 02:01 PM
i do everything myself, I cant afford to pay other people to do it for me. especially after the last 2 places i went to see about getting some stuff done. they gave me outrageous prices so i left and done it in my front yard or at work...

$1000 for the car
$556 for grill
$180 for 2 actuators
$300 for alarm and all extras
$790 for the vogues not yet installed
$1000 for the cd dvd palyer
$350 components in the doors
$1,725 air suspension
$525 3 optima yellowtops
$350 knukoncepts power/ground wire "yes i got a lot"
i dont know the exact cost on the subs, amps, sound process, the wood and fiberglass ect but it was around $2300 for 2 Fi BL 18"s and 4 sundown amps, 1 RF 360.2 sound processor

**update** 7-7-2011

ready to resin the brakelight cover to the outer panel...ran into a problem. used more hardener than recomended and it still wasnt enough. i let it sit for 24hours and it was still wet.

Solution, mixed up more resin, added a ton of hardner, soaked it down and it was tacky in 20 minutes. 40 minutes later hard as a rock. done both sides, its drying in the sun now. ima put a few more coats of resin on later

looks a lil crooked but you cant tell when its installed

put the pillars on the side for now, finish them some other time

getting close


07-07-11, 06:57 PM
put a few more heavy coats on, its solid now...i left work it was still a lil tacky from the last coat of resin. if im not busy tommorow i may try sanding on it. if not it will sit over the weekend. sand it down, put some filler on it, sand that down till its nice and smooth, then primer and paint.


07-07-11, 11:35 PM
$1000 is a steal for that man!!! I paid a lot more for mine with 51k miles on it, same color combo, same wheels, and no vinyl top as well. Those door sills and dash top look really great as well.

07-08-11, 12:49 AM
thanks, i try to do things that look good yet something that someone else hasnt done...they have a few cars around with a dash like mine, prolly 2 so i had to take the next step and smooth the airbag over...the rear dash, i havent seen anyone with a molded 3rd brake like and and painted to match...just have to be different...as for the sills that another one where i havent seen anyone take the time to do that, however my friend done a reverse, he didnt do the sills, he had his whole floor fiberglassed and painted to match

07-08-11, 01:59 AM
It would be cool to see a fiberglassed floor.

07-08-11, 01:55 PM
kandy man from kandy kustoms in corpus christi done it for him. 2 peice fiberglass so he could get it inside the car


with the hidden green LED's on
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/SlimmSaltine/167047_611562322498_45705950_33876324_2744611_n.jp g

07-08-11, 03:15 PM
that's kinda cool. never thought to do that. Not sure I would like it on my car but it is original.

07-08-11, 05:29 PM
Thats nice. Think I like your idea better with just the trim. Still, amazing work ya'll doing over there.

07-08-11, 06:33 PM
got a lil accomplished today, but between work, the heat, rain and time It wasnt much

sanded the resin down to prep for filler.

heat cured my filler to fast so i didnt cover everything i wanted

sanded that down. still has a bunch of imperfections my phone didnt pick up. i laid down some more filler and then it started raining to so i put it up and went home...got a lot more sanding and filling to do before primer and paint


07-08-11, 07:12 PM
nice, it's coming along!

07-09-11, 09:49 AM
I would really enjoy learning the secrets of fiberglass.

My cracked dashboard disappoints me.

07-09-11, 01:03 PM
its actually really easy, if you were to do your dash you need 1 special tool. just a roller with metal wheels, you run over the cloth, mat whatever you used to press it down on the dashboard and get the air bubbles out. other than that i would say grind out the cracks, fill it with either resin or if you have milled fiberglass that would be better. then lay a few layers of fiberglass cloth down.

the worst part of all of it is the sanding and im not talking about itching, that doesnt bother me at all. its just lots of labor sanding over and over

07-11-11, 01:55 PM
got a lil done this morning, sanded the filler from friday, added some more where needed, sanded that...got lot left, theres a low spot in the bottom middle area of the brake light cover that i need to build up. a few pin holes need to be filled and smoothed out...slowly getting there...put a coat of primer on to see any imperfections when i sand on it.



07-11-11, 01:55 PM
double post

07-11-11, 08:23 PM
**Reserved**what does it mean, ReserveD?

07-11-11, 09:28 PM
i wanted to post all pictures on the front page without interruptions, i didnt know till after it was done that after 24hours you cant edit that post to post the other pics there...all websites are different.

07-12-11, 01:58 PM
hit a few areas today to get it where i need to be, and then layed down a few coats of primer over the whole piece


07-12-11, 02:02 PM
that looks awesome man. your attention to detail is amazing. I'm more of a "That's good enough for me" kind of guy. :D

07-12-11, 02:16 PM
that looks awesome man. your attention to detail is amazing. I'm more of a "That's good enough for me" kind of guy. :D

i do that "sometimes", if your going to see it though i want it to look great, then ppl ask where i got that done it looks great, i tell them I do all my own work. thats when ya get buissness.

07-12-11, 07:43 PM
nothing can ever go without having some type of issue...when it came time to test fit it, everything fit except the brake light. so it was time to grind away. ill have to rework the underside a lil bit but nothing major, it looks weird right now, should look 100 times better when its painted and has the center peice


07-12-11, 08:36 PM
Don't stop with the info or the pics. Your skills are great, but its your knowledge and sharing that's impressing me.

07-12-11, 08:58 PM
actually between now and the last post I come up with an idea to make the back panel stand apart from other fleetwoods. your gonna have to wait before i say what im going to do.

07-12-11, 11:44 PM
Don't stop with the info or the pics. Your skills are great, but its your knowledge and sharing that's impressing me.

Yep, I second that. Love the pics and info.

07-13-11, 06:53 PM
ok, for today, i fix the bottom side where i chopped it up trying to make the brake light fit. I sanded and reprimed the whole piece so now all I have to do it sand it and throw it in the paint booth.

heres my new idea I came up with

cut the factory 3rd brake light in half so i have the mounting holes for the lights and the tabs to mount to the car


i had to do this as a way to light up my new brake light without all the headaches trying to build something else. it was to simple to go this route

hard to see but its installed

now this is a light defusser, you can pick this up anywhere, smooth on one side and bumpy on the other. we had a panel my brother broke so i took it and got an idea, layed some tape down to prevent any scratches to the finish. traced out about what i needed


sanded the edges down and test fit and for the 1st shot i impressed myself. now what im going to do is almost kandy paint like since it needs to be red and light up. im going to tint some clear with a few drops of my factory paint. test it on the other sheet and see how red yet transparent I can get it. then ill paint the cover. i will glue this in from the back for a nice look

I like how it covers the whole opening leaving no gaps

07-14-11, 11:59 PM
***UPDATE 7-14-2011****

i was kinda busy today with work, i did however sand the board the final time today after i reprimed it yesterday. looks pretty damn good. I also sanded the A-Pillar pieces that I put on the back Burner...I done that B/C someone put them on the ground inside our prep station and someone stepped on one and broke it clean off, so More work for me, I fixed it and hopefully tommorow if everything goes alright and im not to busy, ima try and blast some paint on those 3 parts and tint the 3rd brake light cover I made

07-19-11, 07:05 PM

work pickup and its been raining all week except today so i managed to sneak it in and get the stuff painted while I had some spare time. havent put it together b/c it needs to dry and 2 specs of trash got in the main panel so I have to polish it out tomorrow, nothing major

Fixed the one someone broke and painted these finally


you can see the spec in this one, its common in painting, a lil 2000 grit rub, compound/polish and done

heres the light cover I made for the 3rd brake light, mixed a few drops of my factory color paint in some clear, 6 coats later, its red almost matching the car, but kandy like as you can see the writing on the can behind it still. so when its glued in. you wont see the lightbulbs behind it but when I press the brakes it should light up as bright as a factory 3rd brake light.


07-19-11, 08:49 PM
that's awesome man. you're creative with that stuff

07-19-11, 09:16 PM
when I press the brakes it should light up as bright as a factory 3rd brake light.
+10 points. Makes one hell of a difference.

07-20-11, 12:06 AM
That's just awesome!:bling:

07-20-11, 12:10 AM
mucho thanks, tommrow i have a good bit of work to do but ima try to get the lens glued in so i can get it in the car, then ill worry about the center section finding the right material to cover it in

the kandy effect i was going after turned out much better than I thought it would, and I didnt even test it first, i just wanted to get everything done so it was work or fail and i think it looks good,

when i get it in ill post a night time pic how it lights up...

07-20-11, 07:32 PM
worked my ass off today but I got some stuff done.

polished those nibs out the paint, looks great now. managed to find some free time to glue the light in. looks good. got it in the car with center piece in, still unfinished...

it was a pain in the ass to get the panel in and mount the light all at the same time but i got it done, made it alot harder than it should have cuz it was storming when i done it...because of the rain i still dont know what it looks like from the back or how it lights up...



07-20-11, 08:28 PM
finally stopped raining, glass is still a lil wet, also snapped the a-pillars back in



07-21-11, 01:54 AM
ok. im a lil drunk right now so bare with me, but heres the night time shots, close up adn away



pretty damn nice if i say so myself.

07-21-11, 02:49 AM
Have another drink sir, it looks great!!!!!!!!!

07-21-11, 10:01 AM
wow that looks awesome!

07-21-11, 12:09 PM
That looks real good.

08-02-11, 12:48 AM
well the last few days the casino has been pretty good to me so I treated myself to a few things for the cadillac...however for good things theres the bad

I ordered myself some lock lugs, best on the market, every lug is a lock. a lot longer to remove 5 locks per rim than 1, those are here

i ordered some adapters which will be here tomorrow or thursday

ordered some rims, the caps came in and 1 is damaged so its gonna go back soon for a swap out, rims will be here tomorrow

the bad, damn cops got me over some bullshit. i always use the auto headlights, never turn the manual headlight switch on b/c if i forget to push it in the battery will go dead, the auto switch automatically turns them off...well the valet turned the auto switch off i guess not knowing, when they pulled my car up the manual switch was on. i cant tell when my lights are on or off one these streets with those orange light bulbs, has to be dark to see my lights. anyway i pushed the switch in and assuming that the auto switch awas on cuz i always leave it on, it wasnt

heres where dickhead cop comes in. he tells me put my lights on, i do. he pulls me over anyway, gets my license and registration and removes me from the car cuz i have a gun inside...proceeds to give me a field sobriety test cuz some reason he thought i may be drunk...i passed that. he putsw my gun in the drunk and gives me 2 tickets

1. No headlights
2. driving with no insurance

i told him my insurance is in the glovebox, you didnt give me a chance to get it before ripping my ass out the car, he told me "i dont care, tell the judge" so if my family doesnt get it fixed im filing a complaint against him

I win a bunch of money and they trying to take a cut now, screw that.

heres some pics to hold ya over till tommorow for more pics...i plan to have my car 95% done in time for a carshow?event Bayou classic thanksgiving weekend so i have to get in mash mode and get some work done


08-02-11, 07:32 AM
I've heard good things about those Gorilla locks. How much were they? I'm looking at getting wheels this fall/winter, and I don't want my shit sprouting legs while on campus either. :suspect:

08-02-11, 01:46 PM
i got a discount through my work and they were $60 no tax. my friend bought some somewhere else and after tax paid $150

anyway, wheels arrived today. all look great, fresh glass chrome


this is an original 15" version of the spokes that came on 1979-1983 eldorados, rivieras and toranados as a option but recalled b/c the spokes loosened up and clacked. TWW redesigned them, in different sizes. mine have a 1" longer poke than the originals...b/c its a front wheel drive rim i have to wait till my 2" adapters come in so i can properly fit them


and they will be wrapped in a fresh new set of vogue tyres. in the south we call them mustard and mayo.

08-02-11, 01:50 PM
i also have to add to the chrome and order my all chrome valve stems...

08-02-11, 07:23 PM
decided since the extra chrome ring that you wont see the valve stem anyway so im just going to go black stem with chrome caps.

ran into yet another problem. i think they sent me the wrong lugnuts, ill find out soon. adapters came in today. $250 lighter.

few more pics, just set the cap on to see the poke these things have


2" thick


08-03-11, 03:22 AM
I like those wheels!!! Almost bought a similar set of Cragar wires for my red 95, same look but they're deep dished and meant for a RWD car originally.

08-03-11, 08:37 AM
I could take it or leave it on the wheels. Gotta see what they look like on the car to see for sure.

08-03-11, 01:47 PM
the rwd rims like these are cragar star wires...waiting for my washers to come in. they sent me 1.25" adapters instead of 2" as i was recomended by someone else. well the 1.25" seem to fit better than a 2" would...just test fitted the rear


will look way better when i wash the blue off the tires

might even add a color matched 15" dust shield behind them, not sure yet

08-03-11, 02:09 PM
looks nice man!

08-03-11, 05:20 PM
Those look a lot better than I was thinking they would.

08-03-11, 05:22 PM
^ What he said. Looks good. :)

08-03-11, 06:56 PM
it sucks cuz i want to put them on...ill get my valve stems tomorrow, then i can mount and balance all of them. then i have to wait on the center punch washers so i can put it all on. and when its bolted up, That means "MORE PICS"...then i can move on to doing the rear airbags and trunk

08-04-11, 12:04 AM
Can I drop my car off with you and maybe a couple of blank checks??? Your car looks great man. Nice to have something to show for your hardwork, my partying friends dont seem to understand that concept.......

08-04-11, 12:55 AM
I'll drop my car off when mrholland brings the blank checks also.

08-04-11, 01:22 AM
sounds like a plan. I still do the partying thing but I make money when I do that Usually...actually I start partying tomorow night, goto work, then friday and saturday more partying and sometimes a tuesday or wednesday ill be out to...i guess cause I do it cause I make money and im still fairly young.

I have a mission right now to finish most of the stuff before thanksgiving, money permitting...I think ill be done before then though.

after that I have a few cars to do. remote start alarm on my friends 05 sebring, lower and more paint work on my friends 07 chevy on 28" and same friend paint work and stereo on his 02 deville show car. after that get it to new orleans and well work a deal out.

these pics are the TV I installed 20" flipdown and some of the paint work I done. steering wheel, radio trim, panel across the windshield, A,B and C Pillars, door locks and pull handles ect. we also done the bowtie on the grill, the tailgate handle and tailgate cap


this is a truck came into my work, had white paint spots all over it, neither a claybar nor paint thinner would take it off. had to wetsand the whole truck, then compound, polish, and wax it. you can see in the first pic below the body line where i wetsanded it. the top was just compounded. the second pic is before wax

lil bit of orange peal but i wasnt trying to get that out

08-04-11, 03:42 AM
I enjoy wet sanding/polishing. I find it strangely relaxing.

Nice job on your Fleetwood, you do some killer work! Keep the pics/updates coming.

08-04-11, 07:05 PM
its not bad when you can wetsand at your own pace, it sucks when you have a set time the vehicle needs to be ready...

all rims mounted and balanced, ready and waiting for my damn washers so i can bolt them up.

08-05-11, 01:46 PM
just to make me feel better, I pulled the skirts and notched them so they dont come close to the spokes


cleaned it up after so no burnt plastic or sharp edges


cant even tell

08-06-11, 04:19 PM
1st set of lugnuts were wrong, ordered another set and guess what, they were wrong. so i found a set this morning at autozone, not what i wanted but will do for now. i have to put some air in the rear shocks. on a hard bump the cap hits the skirt. nothing major but something to take care of.

bolted them up this morning, washed it up so its pretty, got the blue off the tires and now ready to swang it tonight


08-06-11, 05:41 PM
Looking good. Some adjustable rear shocks would get that car to the right height.

08-06-11, 06:03 PM
it has replacement airshocks so i just have to add a lil air to stiffen it up...i might have to put a 1/4" space on to push the rim out just a bit and i shouldnt have any problems...remember Im about to put air suspension on to lower it so i have to get those clearance issues taken care of

08-07-11, 03:11 PM
damn man this is looking great and really liking the wheels, cant wait to see it finished. sub'd

08-07-11, 03:12 PM
how much did all that dynamat cost you btw?

08-07-11, 03:20 PM
4 packs of the Dynamat Extreme Bulk pack 36' per pack ran about $750, everything is covered except the floor. I have to get the airbags installed soon. at least have to get the back done, so i can start figuring a way to fit 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag.

i can definatly do 1 18" sub but I bought 2 and ima try my hardest to properly fit both along with 2 batteries, 4 amps, sound processor, and all the other crap back there.

08-11-11, 08:07 AM
Bump. This can't leave the first page. I won't let it. :lol:

08-11-11, 01:38 PM
the 1.25" adapters arent what I need right now so I ordered the 2" like I originally wanted, now its just a waiting game for them to come in. nothing like 3/4" more poke

Paid $250 for the 1.25" adapters, 5x5 to 5x4.75 anyone looking ill sell for $200

08-11-11, 06:48 PM
hit a milestone today. look at them miles just racking up


08-12-11, 05:49 PM
LOL, happy milestones like this , your red pointer is also misaligned like ours actually GM should have used digital gear gauge as they used in other rides .It's wayy off P ha ha lol

08-12-11, 06:16 PM
lol why does it say 32 mph when you're in park? ;)

08-12-11, 06:37 PM
yea the little metal wire broke and i never got around to fixing it. one thing that hasnt really bothered me. when i get everything else how i want it then ill mess with that

08-13-11, 12:46 PM
new adapters came in, might go sweat it later putting them on, much thicker than the last ones, dont like the dual drilled pattern but it is what it is


08-13-11, 01:15 PM
They are so thick that I dont think you'll have to worry about the dual drill pattern causing strength issues. It will be intersting to see what they make the car look like.

08-13-11, 05:03 PM
ok, got out there in the 98 degree heat with tons of humidity and sweat all last nights whiskey out. had to trim a lil more on the skirts where the locking tabs meet b/c they close to the tire now, have to see if that gives me any problems soon


stick out a lil more

this is with the 1.25" spacer

this is with the 2" spacer

08-14-11, 07:56 PM
you can do 2 18s in a sealed box and 1 18 ported i have 2 18s sealed in my 90 brougham with 5k going to them and it shakes everything. be prepared for damage with your 18s ,so far i have cracked my trunk lid in 3 different spots and my trunk latch broke off had to weld it and so far i'm on my third gas tank due to cracks.

08-14-11, 10:02 PM
im doing 2 18"s ported, no sense to do it sealed. the manufacture doesn't recommend sealed anyway. each sub needs 5cubic foot plus port and sub displacement and with the airtank i cant invert the subs to get a lil more airspace. im fiberglassing the floor though to get maximum airspace...i dont have to worry about a latch b/c i dont have one, gastank is plastic and i deadened everything up, if it cracks or rips ill fix it

08-15-11, 12:49 AM
you can do 2 18s in a sealed box and 1 18 ported i have 2 18s sealed in my 90 brougham with 5k going to them and it shakes everything. be prepared for damage with your 18s ,so far i have cracked my trunk lid in 3 different spots and my trunk latch broke off had to weld it and so far i'm on my third gas tank due to cracks.

My idle...I've got 1700 RMS w/15s and nothing comes close to cracking but "the beat keeps knocking down my rear view mirror". How many decibels you pushing?

Pimpin, what kind of specs does an 18" speaker have now-a-days? Movin a lot of air...

08-15-11, 08:15 AM
i have 2 kicker solo x 18s and 2 kicker zx2500.1s. the solo x subs will work in sealed or ported but ported is the way to go if you have the room.my car don't hold pressure well but i still took 1st place at a spl contest in the m5 class with a 145.3 at 20hrz and i peaked at 38 hrz with 145.4 the mic was on the windshield and my windows were up.

08-15-11, 02:00 PM
i dont have solobarics though, I have 2 Fi Audio BL's. like i said if i cant fit 2 properly ported how i want it, in the limitied space i have b/c of all the other stuff in the trunk, then ill just do one and either sell the other one or keep it as a spare...im not doing any competitions anymore, they dont have many around anymore and there little whitley ones where the mic isnt truely calibrated to make people think they louder than they are

heres some info on the subs

First off we do not recommend using a sealed box for any of the BL or BTL series of woofers

BL 18 – Ported box we recommend using 5-10 cubic feet @ 30-37Hz tuning, you can tune a little higher if you wish but we recommend keeping it close to 33hz for a daily driver. Again the same 12-16 square inches of volume applies per cubic foot of volume.

these are the options I added

P Chamfer: This is a chamfer on the end of the pole, it helps to bring the air down around inside of the motor and helps cool the coil better. It also helps relieve the pressure underneath the dustcap. We recommend at the bare minimum to get this option if you choose this series of woofers.

Cooling: Self explanatory, the cooling channels are machined into the inside of the sub to help cool the coil FAR better. But there are some things that you sacrifice. There is less metal inside of the motor so it is a little weaker. If you are looking for a tone/burp only scenario for SPL we suggest that you do NOT get this option. Stick with only the P chamfer or Hyper Pole. Now if you are looking for a daily sub to beat on and you have less then 2000 watts then this is the option for you. 2000+ watts you need to look into the BTL series

Flatwind: The flatwire coil option simply helps the power handling of the sub. The coil has more surface area to dissipate heat and will take more power then the regular round wire coil that comes in the ‘stock’ version of the sub. If you are looking to do an SPL install we highly recommend that you use choose the flatwound coil option. In testing it is louder then the regular roundwire coil and takes the thermal abuse much better.

im not looking to compete just bang down the block knockin pictures off the wall

08-15-11, 02:06 PM
the specs



Fs: 33.2 Hz | 33.2 Hz
Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.4 Ohms/coil
Qms: 5.82 | 5.82
Qes: .32 | .32
Qts: .30 | .30
Mms: 302g | 302g
Cms: 0.88mm/N | 0.88mm/N
Sd: 1210cm^2 | 1210cm^2
Vas: 181.0 l | 181.0 l
Spl: 94.1dB 1W/1m | 94.1dB 1W/1m
Bl: 16.6 N/A | 22.7 N/A
Xmax: 18mm | 18mm
Rms: 1000W * | 1000W *
Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft
Ported box: 5-8cuft | 5-8cuft
Sub OD: 18.500” | 18.500”
Cut ID: 16.750” | 16.750”
Mounting depth: 9.750” * | 9.750” *
Displacement: 0.26cuft * | 0.26cuf

where it says "*1000w RMS" thats there to safely play them, the owner actually says if your electrical is up to par and and your power is clean, they will tae 1700-2000w rms all day long. im going to be giving them about 1700w each

08-15-11, 02:35 PM
That's a lot of bass! I have two kicker 15's in my 87...nothing special and I'm powering them with i believe a 1500 W amp (been a while...i forget exactly)
When we installed them my friend said that I really should have got 2 of those 1500 W amps because each one of my subs can handle that much, apparently. For me, it's a lot of bass and I barely crank it up past like 3 in the bass settings on my radio. lol.

08-15-11, 05:08 PM
if i had the room i would've ported mine. i'm sure you'll have no trouble knocking pictures off the walls

08-23-11, 09:19 AM
This needs more bump.

See what I did there? :lol:

cadillac kevin
08-23-11, 10:29 AM
I never understood why someone needs so much bass that it damages your car. can someone fill me in on why that is a good thing?

08-23-11, 10:39 AM
to get attention ;)

seriously, I agree with you. When I got my 87 (which was my first Cadillac) I was young and wanted to be "cool" so I got the biggest system I could get...2 15" kickers. Was the loudest bass in my area. Now that I'm old I barely ever have the bass set higher to like a 3. lol...then again I don't like rap or hip hop music at all and rock with too much bass doesn't sound great.

08-23-11, 01:42 PM
i like mine to pound but also be clear

but its like every place you go.

I want to be louder than someone who pulls up next to me...in florida they want to have the biggest rims, some people want the fastest car, or the lowest, ect. just have to do it bigger and better than the man next to you.

08-23-11, 01:58 PM
Nah, to hell with that big rim scene. Fortunately that's starting to actually die out.

I'll take fast and loud over big any day.

08-25-11, 05:31 PM
car audio is just another way to compete against some one else and eventually it gets to a point that tears stuff up.i personally don't do it for attention unless i'm at a car show, it really draws a crowd.i also don't drive down the street with it up loud because i know most people don't want to hear it.

08-25-11, 06:03 PM
Its all personal opinion, I like it because it feels so different than anything else in the world.

Pimpin, any plans for the motor? Actually, you only have like 10 miles on the motor so I suppose there's really no reason to mess with it.

08-25-11, 06:38 PM
im fine with factory right now, I just keep it clean and shiny

08-25-11, 06:40 PM
The fun motor stuff will be coming. I can feel it. :)

08-25-11, 06:48 PM
gotta keep it under close watch, even at work


heres my next project, any ideas whats inside my head for this, not even sure when ima start working on it cuz my next few weeks are a lil jammed up with work, friends in town and some family stuff.


08-26-11, 11:26 AM
Stash spot for the 9?

08-26-11, 02:07 PM
no, thats in the center console and no need to stash it cuz its legal

08-26-11, 05:15 PM
Stash spot for the throw away? :) No, I don't know. What's going there?

08-26-11, 05:24 PM
yea a throw away would work, but ill hold up on telling yall right now until i get to working on it

08-26-11, 09:09 PM
I'll say swing down monitor.

cadillac kevin
08-26-11, 10:41 PM
mini monitor?
putting in one of those overhead console compass/fuel economy things?
extra tweeter?

08-27-11, 12:06 PM
nope, if i put any other TV's in it will be 1 or 2 big flipdowns, nothing to do with audio and not a compass or fuel economy gauge

08-27-11, 12:10 PM
O and for the record that dickhead cop that pulled me over and gave me some BS tickets, not only did my High ranking grandpa go to the judge and have him a null it, he went to the officers commander and both of them ripped the guy a new ******* so i dont think he'll think about pulling me over again, im defiantly happy

08-27-11, 12:12 PM
^^^^^MooN RooF^^^^^

08-27-11, 12:22 PM
no, its gonna be in the area where the garage opener and sunglasses compartment is at

08-30-11, 10:29 PM
removed the panel and took it apart...may do some more tommorow, maybe not. needs some trimming before I can really get down to what I want to do. have a vision, trying to figure how to properly execute it.



08-30-11, 11:55 PM
Air ride switches?

08-31-11, 02:06 AM
very close, 2 dual needle air ride gauges somehow fiberglassed in

08-31-11, 02:25 AM
Ahh, I like that idea. Be really cool looking if they were angled up and towards the driver a bit, instead of flat against the headliner.

08-31-11, 02:04 PM
they will be angled down a bit to see them, I wanted to turn them toward the driver a lil bit but I dont have all the proper tools for wood working that I should have and I can see the gauges fine they way im going to do them so thats how its gonna have to be.

08-31-11, 07:08 PM
made a rough panel, it still needs to be trimmed, cut, rounded, ect. have to get the angle right but also figure the bracket and roof behind the panel b/c not only are the gauges fairly big, they have these fittings on the back to add length plus the airline has to go in and curve without kinking, this one will be a test to get right but ima try it.


not perfect, wasnt trying and it doesnt need to be


dont have a whole saw at the house so a dremmel tool shall do

like i said still need to cut more, trim, round ect...this is a rough cut


09-02-11, 10:00 PM
that's going to look good but do you think digital gauges would match better since your dash is digital.

09-03-11, 02:27 AM
Digital would look right up there. I bet dakota digital has something with your name on it.

09-03-11, 12:46 PM
yea, anyone want to donate them to me, i checked them out a while back and they fairly expensive, i been having these gauges from when i purchased the kit way back when and thats whats gonna be used...unless someone donates some digital ones

09-05-11, 06:00 PM
Keep it going!

09-05-11, 06:04 PM
bills right now so im in the broke boat for a minute, plus its been tropical storming since thursday, cant go out and do anything...soon

Rick James
09-07-11, 04:05 PM
Loving this build up thread.

09-07-11, 06:47 PM
thanks, work is slow right now, plus bills, and sometimes i spend to much partying so im trying to stack a lil bit back up to finish a few things here and there

09-18-11, 12:22 PM
no work updates but yesterday we pulled the lacs out for and let some local rappers and one from houston use the cars for a backdrop. I went heavily into the hood and back. i didnt get to much of the camera since i was on the side and my friends were the main center focus but they got a lil of mine on some side shots...







11-05-11, 03:14 AM
Hey man, where you been hiding?? Hows the car coming??

11-05-11, 02:10 PM
works been slow but the bills havent, plus too much partying leaves me with not a lot of money. kinda loose interest when funds are low...only thing ive done so far this week, i started stripping one of the door moldings to repaint it since they look terrible and i washed it up and put some tire shine on yesterday. the few weeks ago i had to change a leaking waterpump, no problem under warranty so just some of my time and some coolant. changed it, cam seal was fine, no leaks, few days later and oil is dripping all over from that seal so i had to pull it all apart and fix that

this stuff is not coming off easy, supposed to be gray but mine have dried up and turned black, of course the dealership no longer stocks these parts


removed the rear door molding

taped the chrome up, removed the weatherstrip and got a li sanding done



hopefully work pics up, I have a few side hustles to bring a lil cash in and maybe I can get motivated again

12-08-11, 10:33 PM
well, work is slower than ever, money sucks right now and then theres holidays so spend some more...i just been driving the car lately nothing to do it with low funds. didnt finish the moldings cuz the stuff refused to sand off. ill find some better ones in the future and just replace them...

today since work is so slow i decided to cut some wood for the trunk and try to get some stuff in place for the stereo system. cut the 1st of 2 front baffle boards to hold the subs, not shown i have a panel to hold 2 amps and a sound processor on the floor, i still have to modify it some, and i got the frames done for the side panels around the batteries, compressors and holds the amps...now just have to figure how to mount them securely and figure how i will finish them off...took some measurements for the box itself and will have to get cutting maybe tomorrow. too cold outside though

also took the tank out for now, there isnt much room, i have to make 10lbs of shit fit in a 5lb bag


i added another board for support, the amp will be mounted level, its just leaning there, also have to drill holes for the wires

smaller amp for this side

12-10-11, 01:26 AM
Sundown <3

Oh god, I'm already jealous.

12-10-11, 12:32 PM
yea, thats 1 of 4 sundown amps, 2 Fi audio BL 18", 4 boston acoustic 6x9's, 1 rockford fosgate 360.2 sound processor, 2 optima yellowtop batteries, that huge pile of knukoncepts 0 gauge wire, a bunch of knukoncepts 4 gauge wire, of course all of the air equipment, its gonna be hard to fit all this and make it look good

12-10-11, 01:10 PM
cool man. I like that you're doing it all custom! In my 87 I have just 2 15" kickers sitting there in a standard box with the amp. doesn't look too great but it sounds good. Wish I had the motivation and talent to do all this custom fab work like you!

12-10-11, 03:07 PM
i need some motivation right now, that usually comes from money...just to get some bass in the car i would put a prefab box but no one makes them for 18"s and Fi audio recommends and ported enclosure of 5cbft minimum per sub, its gonna be hard to get 10cbft plus port and sub displacement, but ima try. slight hangover and this cold weather has me not wanting to do anything

12-10-11, 09:35 PM
Two 18s... oh lawd. Such craziness.

12-10-11, 10:03 PM
a lot of pointless work done to a worthless car

12-10-11, 11:45 PM
^they say...if you dont have any haters, you ain't doing nothing!

12-11-11, 12:54 PM
yep, just shake the haters off, besides id rather a RWD cadillac with a chevy engine over an sts that after 5 years is just about worthless. but ya cant please everyone...

after football today i may go remove the rear seat and see about relocating the box mounted in the trunk on the drivers side seatback. then go cut a few peices of wood to mock a few things up. ill probally need to go buy another $30 sheet of 3/4" MDF for the box itself

12-11-11, 06:31 PM
go a lil further with it, i love drag racing, but i wouldnt turn my fleetwood into a race car, just like your sts, its a cadillac not a race car, no matter how much you paid for and put into it. this is my S.L.A.B. daily driver, that stands for Slow loud a bangin. hence why i havent modified it to go faster and am building a big stereo system with air ride and such. I have a race truck though if you ever want to go to the track. show you what real muscle is.

12-11-11, 08:39 PM
managed to get 5 boards cut before i ran out of light and froze my ass off...need some wood glue and screws now to start a lil building, didnt relocate that box yet or remove the seat

12-11-11, 09:16 PM
a lot of pointless work done to a worthless car .......This forum needs a dislike button, badly.

12-11-11, 11:25 PM
yea, thats his opinion, it is what it is, its real easy to buy something new out right and hook a computer to it or bolt on parts...id rather go my own route customize it and know it was done by me.

this is the other toy in the works, it runs but its not track ready yet, in the pic Its going back together after having the heads decked. still need to lower it a bit more, backhalf the rear and finish a few things under the hood, then its a lil bodywork and flatblack paint

right at 800hp, plan to add a 250 shot nitrous system in the near future, the other money pit

496 stroker, edelbrock alum heads, all forged internals, 13.1 compression, glyptal coated block, dominator carb, msd ignition, 3.5" dual exhaust, ect ect ect


12-12-11, 12:34 PM
lol That guy's just a troll, wouldn't pay him any mind.

What's that motor in? Not the '68, right? (If so, that's BADASS.)

12-12-11, 01:21 PM
yep, just shake the haters off, besides id rather a RWD cadillac with a chevy engine over an sts that after 5 years is just about worthless. but ya cant please everyone...

Er...his STS-V IS a RWD Cadillac with a chebby engine. Lolz

12-12-11, 02:22 PM
either way i dont consider a stsv a real muscle car and a few years down the line it will be worthless, very few new cars hold there value and a new seville in general is poorly built

as for the motor, its in a 97 regular cab stepside chevy 1500, i sold the 68 a while back, it was nice but needed to much work at the time, i really want a 76 eldorado convertable but everyone who has one thinks they have gold, or i want a early 80's model opera seville or eldorado, also rare and expensive

12-12-11, 03:46 PM
Er...his STS-V IS a RWD Cadillac with a chebby engine. Lolz

No it's not... lol It has a N*. ;)

Sweet motor for the0 truck, man. :)

12-12-11, 04:03 PM
Oops, my bad. You are right.

STS will be worthless in a few years...well yeah, that's what happens as a car ages. Good example - I can go buy a good condition '96 Fleetwood for $2500-$3000 today. Not exactly gonna break the bank. :stirpot:

Yeah, the STS may not be a muscle car, but lets get serious here - the Fleetwood is no muscle car either, and it never was. It's just a good, old fashioned cruising machine that does it's job well. As an overweight, softly sprung, properly geared cruiser will, it performs downright miserably when it comes to carving corners, braking, or accelerating. A 4.6 STS is far more of a muscle car than the Fleetwood could ever wish to be.

12-12-11, 07:20 PM
Yeah, but that's his whole argument. He's definitely not turning this into a race car. Race cars don't have woofers that require 5 cubic feet of air to move...

(I wish my wagon did, though. :( )

Anywho, back on topic:

Good to see this thread back. I'm honestly curious to see what the trunk will end up looking like, considering your other work looks so good.

12-12-11, 08:40 PM
Did someone with an STS just honestly try to make fun of a Brougham?

Nola, just ignore that under-funded reject. He's just mad mommy and daddy wouldn't raise his allowance so he could afford a fullsize.

12-13-11, 12:31 AM
like i said everyone has there opinion, i let my work speak for itself...

still havent got around to pulling the rear seat out, might do that tomorrow if i dont have anything to do in the morning, i hate cold weather but i wanna get some progress done...

so, beside slow work and christmas coming up, i need wood glue, screws, another sheet of 3/4 MDF, and some fiberglass mat and about 2 gallons of resin to start....just more money

Then I cant put all the stuff in the trunk just yet, cuz i need to get at least the rear airbags on...one to hold all the extra weight, but also the upper bag mounts bolt through the trunk floor. so i have to get them in, then put the box in and go from there.

12-13-11, 10:03 PM
ok, didnt get the stuff done at work like id prefer to, i started it at home around 5:30, bad idea since darkness was right around the corner...the part i relocated was a lot more involved than id prefer to do in the dark but once i got started I didnt wanna stop so i finished it with minimal light...ended up breaking a piece of the brittle license plate surround and i stepped on the black trim that goes across the trunk, o well ill find another

this is the box i relocated, controls, lights, fuel pump ect

unbolted and pulled into car to observe

harness includes these wires to the marker lights and goes outside the car

seats and lights out, thats the green race truck in the works

hard to see but harness getting longer, license plate and housing removed also that black upper piece i broke

new location for that box, fits snug but i also put some 3m double stick tape so its going nowhere

where it use to be

then i reversed the process and in the process i guess i hit one of the lightbulbs hard enough to break a filament so tommorow iget to replace that...but its all done, one more thing out the way

12-28-11, 12:28 AM
ran into a few problems, still cold and its raining off and on so the box is still on hold. christmas out the way, still have bills but i made a few dollars so im upgrading a few things, as soon as paypal loads up the $300 i transfers to it, i will be scrapping those 2 gauges i planned to put in the sunglass/GDO spot for the dakota digital unit, wanted to do that from the start, might as well get it while I have the money...I want to redue my front and read dash, the front is fiberglassed but some cracks underneath are visable, didnt come through but you can see some marks, i dont like it and wanna change that also by not using fiberglass on the front dash at all, also gives me the airbag pad back. I also want to fiberglass the whole rear dash.

i was at the pull-a-part and managed to find a perfect uncracked blue dash pad and a rear dash pad, brake light and all. scooped that up and some parts for my brother for a cool $32

its going to be a while before i even mess with the rear dash but i did make a big blue mess sanding the dash pad getting it ready for adheasion promoter and primer.

im moving slowly but its getting there


top sanded, have a few hard to reach areas to get tommorow

not much texture left, high build primer will fill it in, then block it smooth and lay some paint on it, not filler of glass this time...I experimented with this method in my friends truck and so far so good

12-28-11, 05:00 PM
cool man i love seeing all the pictures of your projects. really inspiring!

12-28-11, 07:08 PM
few problems, but solved them and proceeded...finished sanding, wiped it down with anti-static spray. then some people came to swap filters and lights in our prep station. they had our doors open and it got to cold in the prep station. i sprayed some adhesion promoter and it did whatever it wanted to do, puddled up and took extra long to dry all uneven. i let it dry, wiped it all off with some thinner, warmed the booth up and layed down 2 nice coats of adhesion promoter. came out perfect...5 minutes later primer was flying. i layed down 5 coats and went home, ill sand it tomorrow and lay some more primer down hopefully.

too cold adhesion promoter
much better

you can see some texture in the primer, it will be sanded out mostly then ill fill it again and sand that, have it ready for sealer and paint.

12-29-11, 01:42 PM
got in this morning and sanded a lil bit, have a lot more to do and definatly have to reprime but somethings getting done.

quick pass with the sander shows the low spots
went through the primer to get it flat but was expecting that
few more passes, its getting smoother, my hand is vibrating from the sander so ill give it a rest for a lil while

12-30-11, 03:22 AM
That was a great buy. I paid almost 6K for my 1996, with 70,000 miles, but i was able to drive mine home from SC to FL that same day, and mine has no body damage. Heck, it looks new inside and out.

Yeah, and i have no pics to load at present, but it will soon...

12-30-11, 02:06 PM
my friend was mad for a while when i got mine b/c he spent $8,500 on his 95 with around 40k miles, in about 70 more miles im going to hit the 34k mark

01-06-12, 02:08 PM
been spending money like crazy, gotta slow down. anyway bit the bullet and ordered the dakota digital air gauge, came in today, now have to mount it and get some wire to wire it back to the pressure sensors on the tank and valves

displays readings of 4 airbags and tank pressure from 0-150psi


01-07-12, 02:52 PM
havent messed with the dash since we had a lil bit of work, still tons of sanding left though...my gauge came in and its warm today so i got a lil work done. no tape measure nothing i just eyed it up and layed some tape down for a guide, impressed myself with the cut...anyway got it mounted in the panel, had to trim the front mounting bracket on the panel. so im sure ill prolly have to fab something up to hold the front, i wont know till i trim the mounting bracket under the headliner. ill do that monday when i can use the dremel tool and the shop vac so i dont have a mess of black plastic all in the car.


01-10-12, 04:28 PM
no work so i got a lil bit of work in before it started raining...stopped at the stereo shop and grabbed a bunch of wire for several projects, some for the air gauge is just bought...i manage to make a mess with fine plastic after cutting the plastic bracket in the roof. it doesnt look great but its relieved and hidden. wire it up and pulled wires through the headliner...looks great, bright to. hook it up just to see the display...then it started to rain so this is all i got today

crude cut and wires waiting

dont need the dimmer feature or low pressure warning

view from head position, off

closeup off

closeup on

head view on, i can see it perfect and bright

im thinking about buying 10 red rocker switch extensions and removing all 10 switches from the cheap red lexan switch box and installing in the dash where the cigar tray is. i dont smoke and think it will look good

01-10-12, 07:45 PM
I would recommend building a high quality switch box if you can. I just went through an episode with a 66 Lincoln on airbags that had a bad switch box and no schrader valves. The connection would come out of the box and not go in without major problems. Moral of the story...install schrader valves!!!! Will save you 4 days of trying to trouble shoot a bad air ride system.

That is a nice cut on that panel, too

01-11-12, 12:34 PM
the switches are good its just a bulky lexan box, id rather have them mounted on the dash...i dont know what id need schrader valves for, everything in this system is electric

01-11-12, 03:26 PM
Lets say, like my case, the air ride stops working and the car is slammed. Now you cant drive it and have no way of getting air to the shocks/bags. You can put schrader valves(valves used at the tire to fill up with air) inline with the plumbing to each shock/bag. This way, if the controls go out for the air ride, you can manually fill each shock/bag with as much air as you want.

01-11-12, 08:25 PM
im not going through that extra trouble. if that happens ill have it towed. maybe in the future but right now i just want to get it installed


no work again, im low on cash to, this sucks but ill get through it as always.

pulled the cigar try and cut the switch box out

expose the guts, id hate to have to wire these up all day, about 8 wires were not tight on the switch so i tightened them up

all marked and removed

some tape and used the holes in the switchbox for spacing

drilled holes and cut some bracing out, will need to glue it tomorrow hopefully

trying to capture the screwup but the flash is hiding it, on 4 holes the drill bit in and jerked and cracked a few peices of the plastic surface, thankfully i cleaned it up and with washer for the switches, it hides everything

switches in and tight

cigar tray out

still need to get and paint some switch extensions, the gap is from me cutting the internal bracing, when i glue it tommorow it should pull up and close the gap

dont have to reach far to hit the switches now. once i glue it together i can run the wire under the carpet and patch the harness back together.


01-12-12, 02:00 PM
a lil glue this morning, im going to let it dry a day before putting it back in, sure hope i glued it in the right spots

01-12-12, 03:17 PM
looks good man. that's a great looking installation.

01-12-12, 10:31 PM
pulled up perfect, stuck it in a lil while ago

01-13-12, 02:18 PM
Much better.

01-13-12, 02:58 PM
yes it sure is, before i glued it, it was bouncing around a lil bit...when i get some money again ill order the switch extensions, paint them to match the body color and put them on...few more things to do then i have to find some downtime to get this stuff installed.

01-13-12, 05:08 PM
order the switch extensions, paint them to match the body color I was thinking that (hoping you weren't going to leave them as is lol) It'll set them off and tie them into the rest of the painted interior parts.

It's coming along nicely. Details MAKE the car IMHO, and you get them right.

01-13-12, 07:12 PM
thanks and yea definitely painting the extensions, they only come in 4 colors, red s one of them but its clear with sparkles in it


01-15-12, 04:53 AM
Curious to see this 2 18 box. Come on with it! lol..

I'm thinking about 2 15" AA SMDs, but I don't know if I have the space. They have that double magnet, and they need a lot of airspace.

01-15-12, 12:12 PM
im taking donations, I need to get to home depot and pic another piece of MDF up so i can have enough wood to finish the box...I wont lie im running on fumes with this slow work stuff. ill prolly go spend $30 today on the wood. the side panels of the box are going to be the hardest. once its done i can build it, modify it to get it in and out if need be and then i can check for proper airspace...im in your boat i dont know if i can get all i need but im going to try.

then I need 2 gallons of resin and some fiberglass mat. instead of using 3/4 MDF and loosing valuable airspace where the spare tire and jack goes, im going to glass the floor to get all the space i can..b/c of the metal floor it doesnt have to be thick, just seal the box

again, taking donations.

im also kinda stuck. i need the box done but i need the airbags for the weight. if i do the bags now i have to rip the lines out the valves and remove the tank to get the box in...soon, soon

if i feel strong later i may post pics of the subs

01-15-12, 04:20 PM
ok, its nice out today, got a lil work done, taking a break and about to eat something, may go do some more work later

when i did the switch box to cigar tray, i didnt want to remove the rear seat, pull the sill plates up ect so i just snipped the harness, now i gotta get it crimped back together under the carpet


and its gone

from there I used the wire i bought the other day to extend the switch box harness into the trunk so i can wire the valves up, not pictured, i didnt have big enough heqatshrink so it got taped up.

thats 1 18", for refereance

go a tiny bit done with the box. of course it cant fall into place, had to modify the back board top and bottom

fits now

wires will need to be moved and pinned up later

The Marshmallow
01-15-12, 08:33 PM
Very impressive work. Sub'd for more updates.

01-15-12, 08:47 PM
Oh god. I want that thing so bad.

If only I could afford that kind of cargo space....

01-15-12, 09:24 PM
How many cubes does Fi recommend for that sub?

And have you ever tried 13 layer birch for a box? Hear it's stronger and lighter than MDF.

01-15-12, 10:02 PM
birch is stronger, lighter and almost twice the price, never worked with it just for that reason. id have almost $200 in birch if i went that route.

Fi recommends 5-10 cubic foot per sub. ported only and rated for 1000rms. the owner says that just to be safe, if you have clean power then 2000rms all day long. ill be giving each sub right around 1,750rms...i figure 2 subs, bare minimum 5 cubicfeet for each sub...im gambling being close after sub displacement and port. worse comes to worse ill but a new baffle and have a large box for 1 sub and and be able to upgrade to beefier sub since i would have an extra sundown 1500 amp.

the sub is an 18" BL with cooling, p chamfer, dual 1ohm, flatwind voice coil and for daily use, thats the options i got for them.

after taking a break today and watching the packers get whipped I went and done a lil more work.

I cut a few more boards for the box, ima try to get some resin soon. I still dont even want to mess with the side panels. ima get it in though, so that for the most part is done

had to reconfigure the air valves since the new pressure sensors hit and i couldnt run them how i had them. came up with a better way, i really like it more and it also makes it easier when it comes time to adjust the valve mufflers (quiets the air noise but also adjust lowering speed)

the vertical valve has the electrical hookup turned down now so it will look real clean, now i need to get a "T" so i can use my tank pressure and pressure switch in one hole, have to get a drain petcock for the bottom and 2 water traps and I can paint the tank and have it almost done.

left is new, right old

01-16-12, 09:14 PM
with any progress comes setbacks. went to home depot looking for a 1/8" "T" fitting so i could install the tank pressure and pressure switch...went against what i would usually do if it would work. they didnt have a 1 peice fitting but a 3 female "T" i figure use a threaded nipple and ill be good...yea that worked untill i decided to install the tank pressure sensor. anyway ill order one soon, glad i got the peices out of my adapter fitting. also they did not have a drain cock or water separators.


01-17-12, 11:27 AM
That's what I hate about low budget brass. Don't know how much you are willing to pay for fittings, but you might want to consider Machined Steel High Pressure Threaded Pipe Fittings. I have an old book but you can check online www.mcmaster.com They have about anything you could ask for. I used to chase all over town sometimes until a friend led me onto them decades ago. You could also save some time with the air lines by using push lock type fittings. They have a sleeve you push the hose in and hold the sleeve in and pull the hose back out if you need to disconnect for some reason. They eliminat compression fittings that always either mess up threads on the fitting or leave the hose a one time use.

01-17-12, 01:35 PM
the hose fittings are like your describing but they hold the hose tight so you really need to pull on it to get it out...im about to go to sears to exchange a ratchet and hopefully pick up a draincock and two water separators and see if they have an 1/8" brass nipple with a HEX so i can hold a damn wrench on it.

01-17-12, 09:32 PM
ok, take 2 and 3, went to sears for lunch and no water separators or draincocks, got my ratchet replaced though.

so I just went to harbor freight, picked up 2 separators, 2 1/4 nipples, then back to home depot for another "T" and grabbed 2 1/8 nipples just in case and yes i messed the threads up on one so I saved myself headaches and a 3rd trip.


a lil blurry but you get the idea

noticed some messed up threads so thanks to some expensive snap-on tools i tapped the whole, ill pressurize the tank and blow and shaving out.


pressure switch for the compressors (left) and tank pressure for the gauge (right)


just need a drain instead of a plug cuz i dont need a rusty tank and it will be ready for paint, Im one step closer

01-18-12, 10:33 AM
That tank looks sexy with the fitting on there.

01-24-12, 11:38 PM
between no work, rain, ect I tried to get in the trunk at midnight last night and get some panels fitted, didnt go so well with no light. found a use for the jack as a 3rd and 4th hand, box sides still need to be cut on the bottoms. got a lot left to do

pics kinda suck but it was late


notched around the tension lift rods

i really hope i got this right b/c i guessed at it, ill find out later

cut a side, not finished but on for now

some areas still need to be cut

other side on

1st baffle front view

two 3/4" boards "Double Baffle"

the way i had to trim the rear board to fit, im going to have to make a piece on each side to fill these gaps

SEX, two 18" Fi audio BL's...its going to be tight and heavy

hope I have enough room to fit a port in there at the top of the box between the subs

im wore out just from carrying the subs, need some fiberglass resin and mat to do the floor o the box, a lot more time, money and wood working.

it is getting there

01-25-12, 11:41 PM
You the MAN!!!! I always look forward to seeing your updates. Keep it up homie!!!

01-26-12, 12:42 AM
i thought about working on it tonight and trying to get the sides cut so i can fit the box in the trunk, instead i was kinda tired so i went and chilled with some ppl and had 2 or 3 or 6 whiskey and cokes, im gonna eat and goto bed. maybe tomorrow ill try, plus we had a lil rain which swayed me too

01-26-12, 09:34 PM
stormed today, getting cold now 2 things I hate but when the rain stopped I got out there and realized that guessing doesnt always work.

cut the side panels and there not way off but to much for me. i did however use the existing ones already cut and with some tape made a templet so when I cut the new ones out, also the sides tricked me with the front so Ill have to redesigned a few areas, ill gain air space in a few areas to...o well, live and learn. prolly gonna cost me another $32 for another sheet of MDF


sections to be added or removed

01-27-12, 12:49 AM
traced the templet to another board tonight, peice i had laying around, wanted to use it for something else but this is priority now. ill cut this tomorrow, trace it and then have 2 identical nice fitting sides to work off of. then im going out, full day saturday and maybe ill do more work sunday depending on the weather

2 lines scratched out at the top is were the old board was during tracing, I knew the sides would give me the biggest headache cuz of the shape and yep, nothing but trouble but i found a solution quick so im happy


01-27-12, 08:07 PM
You get my PM?

Box looks really good so far.

How much Dynamat did you buy total?

01-28-12, 12:16 PM
PM sent back, it didnt notify me like it usually does

as for dynamat I bought 4 boxes of extreme bulk pack 36 square foot each pack. right around $700


was board at work while doing other side work. my alarm remote was chipping from normal wear and tear, im never taking this alarm out so what better than to go custom and match it to the car. the screen is scratched up i just havent polished it yet...ill post a pick of it all together later today


01-29-12, 05:18 PM
first before build picks, being from new orleans and being a huge saints fan, seeing, touching any superbowl ring is a pretty rare thing unless you have connections, what was even better is my experience yesterday was with a saints ring of the best NFL quarterback around. Yes, DREW BREES...everyone got to look only, i got to take it a step further


color matched to car, alarm remote

for a member here "beatz02" i dont have a huge indoor work area either, this is my unlevel woodshop

new side panel in progress

looking good, impressed myself with this one, did have to trim 2 spots but it fits good

with the 2nd baffle board on the trunk brace hits on both sides, i will trim this as to fit, its no big problem

new design so the edges will need to be trimmed, another small issue

01-29-12, 05:18 PM
box in front the car to show size, then the drill battery died so i stopped for now, got something done today though

01-29-12, 05:59 PM
haha.. man, that ring is bigger than your hand. you're not worthy!

And let me rent out that wood shop! $10 an hour.


You need to go ahead and upgrade;


The new version adds GPS. Anyone tows your car (knowing they can't break in and steal it without the alarm wailing), you simply follow them to the chop shop with 9 millimeter in hand..lol.

01-29-12, 09:30 PM
i been having that alarm for a 4 years, got it before the car, decided im never taking it out especially where I hid it and how I ran the wires so why not match it to the car.

id like to upgrade to a setup like that but unless I can add to the existing alarm I dont wanna fool with it...thats one more reason I want my airbags on asap. Its really hard to tow a car on the frame and kinda stands out.


I didnt like how the top boards on the box fit, trying to use wood over from the first attempt...ended up recutting them, they fit nice now. just have to cut 3 boards for the tension rod channel, cut the wholes, build a port and show my way to get the box in and out then fiberglass it and put it in...

Id have pics but I had to build a bumper I painted and install it on a friends truck so after that and picking everything up, it was to dark. ill have some more when im finished

01-30-12, 04:12 AM
Yeah, it's an add-on. I've had the same alarm (Viper 791xv) since 2003. It's actually older than your version, but as long as you have an alarm with remote start, you can add the new VSM200 or VSM250 module.

The only thing that sucks is the 3 year plan you have to purchase ($239). It's basically similar to having ADT, except for a car, but with the module you can start your car from anywhere in the world instead of having that 1 mile radius, and it has a bunch of other cool features.

01-30-12, 01:41 PM
i remember that now, same reason I didnt get it b/c of the subscription and at the time I think it was going for $550 when it came out

01-30-12, 06:31 PM
my lugnuts finally came in, when I ordered my rims I ordered a set of gorilla lock lugnut, every nut is a lock. I got the wrong ones, for almost 5 months now they finally came in, found out the guy didnt order the correct ones and the ones he kept trying to get were on backorder so he finally figured what he did wrong and I got them in.

I had put some cheap autozone locks on there and I was scared if i took them off and put them on one more time they wouldnt come off and one gave me hell today but i got it


lock that almost stayed on

01-31-12, 09:05 PM
didnt get anything done yesterday, got home today and knocked the tension rod tunnel out. pulled the box outside and drilled a few holes...its getting closer

pulled the back board off so i could get the drill in there.

tunnel in, not many screws

ran screws in all around the two top boards and back board, then it got too dark so i put it up

just to get an idea, will get lighter when I cut the holes for the subs but will gain weight back with the fiberglass bottom, port and a few other peices....right at 89lbs


i definatley will need another box of screws to finsish, its not time yet to use the wood glue

02-01-12, 01:17 AM
put the box inside the house earlier, went to home depot, grabbed another box of screws, i pulled the whole box apart, ran some tite-bond 2 on the edges and screwed it all back together, i prolly have close to 250 screws holding the box together.

just a lil more out the way, let it dry over night

02-01-12, 04:14 AM
Its really hard to tow a car on the frame and kinda stands out.

I always just figured the best way was to have a car that was bigger than the tow trucks.

I think you've got a good setup with the alarm. Unless your car gets stolen frequently and is too hard to find on it's own, I can't imagine needing to be able to track it by GPS and if at meets that criteria, it is most likely an eighties TOYOTA Crayola that is worth less than the GPS to start with.

02-01-12, 08:37 AM
I think you've got a good setup with the alarm. Unless your car gets stolen frequently and is too hard to find on it's own, I can't imagine needing to be able to track it by GPS and if at meets that criteria, it is most likely an eighties TOYOTA Crayola that is worth less than the GPS to start with.

It's a good setup for when you're in range of the vehicle, but who's within a mile of their vehicle all the time? And that mile radius is often hindered by obstructions like walls and trees, so you're really only looking at about 1/2 a mile radius with our old versions. So it doesn't hurt to have both.

Plus, the ability to track by GPS goes farther than unfortunate theft.

I'm sure you've seen apps that keep track of your parking meter time and use GPS to show you where you parked.

But the Viper GPS goes beyond remembering a set spot like the phone apps. Perhaps you lend your vehicle to a friend or family member, maybe a son or daughter, who says they want to go to the 7-11 and they'll be right back. Instead of wondering what's taking so long, or why all your gas is gone, or wondering why your odometer added 100 miles when 7-11 is right around the corner, you can simply watch their trip in progress.

Maybe you're going out of town or out of the country and you want to keep an eye on your car. One of my buddies parked his '09 Ext in a very nice neighborhood and went to Vegas, only to return to a missing car that was never found. Can't count how many times he's told me that he wished he had GPS tracking on it, even though he got the insurance money for it.

Maybe you let your wife or kids use the car for the day and you gave them the responsibility of picking you up from work when you get off. Instead of wondering their ETA or calling and texting them to ask if they're close, just watch it on the screen.

But even if you didn't use the GPS often, that's not a good reason to not have it. Most of us have car insurance but we never get in accidents. And even when we do get in accidents we prefer to pay out of pocket instead of going through the insurance companies. In that case we only have insurance to satisfy legal requirements. We wouldn't say unless our cars are crashed frequently we couldn't imagine why car insurance is needed. We need it just in case, even if nothing ever happens.

And most insurance companies will give you a really good discount for having GPS tracking, also.

02-01-12, 12:54 PM
The last company I worked for we had over 100 vehicles and about 125 pieces of construction equipment. In 2005 we had a machine valued at about $150,000 stolen from a job site. We had it recovered 2 months later out of pure luck. The owner decided beings we had all of vehicles GPS, do the Lojack thing on the equipment. About 15 times a piece of equipment was stolen over a period of 7 years, ranging in value of $4,000 and up. Each time they were recovered with the last time the guy was chased down about a half mile and had a piece on him. I just called the theft in, gave them the vin and they took it from there. The GPS on the trucks was nice because we knew where the guys were, how long they sat out on the jobsite chugging down beer after work and where the truck was impounded when they got hauled it. They were also setup so an alert was sent via email if it wasn't parked overnight where it should have been. Nobody likes big brother watching over them, but when you have an investment that big, you can't afford to loose that much especially when the deductable was through the roof. Insurance companies don't pay shit when it all comes down to what you get as opposed to what you pay. We more than got our moneys worth from GPS and Lojack, they pretty much paid for themselves. The GPS were about 35 bucks a month with 10 minute updates. Got pretty pricey with all of those vehicles, but it paid off in the end. If I was investing what Pimpanola is in his ride, I'd damn sure have it covered with some kind of backup. Wheels tires, stereo, and everything else....Lotta money.

02-01-12, 02:08 PM
I'm sure you've seen apps that keep track of your parking meter time and use GPS to show you where you parked.

Perhaps you lend your vehicle to a friend or family member, maybe a son or daughter, who says they want to go to the 7-11 and they'll be right back. Instead of wondering what's taking so long, or why all your gas is gone, or wondering why your odometer added 100 miles when 7-11 is right around the corner, you can simply watch their trip in progress.

Maybe you're going out of town or out of the country and you want to keep an eye on your car. One of my buddies parked his '09 Ext in a very nice neighborhood and went to Vegas, only to return to a missing car that was never found.

Maybe you let your wife or kids use the car for the day and you gave them the responsibility of picking you up from work when you get off. Instead of wondering their ETA or calling and texting them to ask if they're close, just watch it on the screen.

Situation 1) Don't worry about Parking Meters. Similarly to the West coast, the Orlando area does not care where I park my Cadillac or which toll booth I just went through. They presume I have a reason.

Situation 2) Friends and family members don't get my cars, if they did, they would get the Expedition. It gets [comparatively] excellent mileage compared to my other cars which average less than 6 MPG, the chances of me needing it are slim, so they can keep it all day and since it has made 140,000 miles so far with nothing but regular oil changes and runs like the day I got it, I don't think I'd care or notice if it had 100 extra miles on it. besides, who would have "friends" like that.

Situation 3) Go to the one of the larger banks, ask what the smallest loan you can take out is, usually between $5-7k. Take the loan with no credit, leave the car as collateral, which will be parked in their company garage, which will be fitted with cameras, have on duty security and only let bank employees in to park there. Return days later, return the cash, pay the few dollars interest and viola. Cheap-as-free parking and the security of knowing your car will be there when you come back. Alternatively, take your car with you. Every time I am in Vegas (At least one week out of every second month) I wish I had my car with me, though I get some badass cars borrowed through an associate out that way, I would still prefer my own.

I am just not seeing practical reasons for GPS in my personal situation.

02-01-12, 03:57 PM
Thats a lot of nails, how many watts are you pushing?

02-01-12, 06:41 PM
The GPS were about 35 bucks a month with 10 minute updates. Got pretty pricey with all of those vehicles, but it paid off in the end. If I was investing what Pimpanola is in his ride, I'd damn sure have it covered with some kind of backup. Wheels tires, stereo, and everything else....Lotta money.

My sentiments exact. Sometimes it's just not enough to get the money when you put so much work into a project and have to do it all over again.

And in your case, I agree that companies having them on company vehicles seems to be the most practical situation for GPS.

Situation 1) Don't worry about Parking Meters. Similarly to the West coast, the Orlando area does not care where I park my Cadillac or which toll booth I just went through. They presume I have a reason.

Ehh.. That's a little shady. Almost equivalent to a cop using his squad car on his days off to blow through red lights..lol, or to park in no-parking zones just to run to an ATM..

I think if I had a hearse, for my own ethical reasons, if I wasn't providing service I'd pay for my parking and tolls and utilize my Smartstart features.

Reminds me of the guy who got arrested for using the carpool lane, since his passenger was a mannequin..haha. I guess it's cool for a season until that one cop or parking attendant gets curious.

Unless of course you're always on business and the law provides that you do not have to pay for parking or tolls; in that case the parking meter feature would be useless.

besides, who would have "friends" like that.

Family, friends, employees, etc.. as they say, there's one in every family. And that was just an example.

You can also be notified if the vehicle exceeds a speed you told your kids or employees not to exceed. Lets say you arbitrarily decide to set a limit at 65mph for yourself and head across town; you get pulled over by CHP who says they clocked you at 75, but you never received the notification so you might have some basis in court to argue that the officers radar gun needs to be calibrated..

You could also use the Hotspot feature to be alerted when the vehicle enters an area you forbid the driver from entering.. just examples.

Situation 3) Go to the one of the larger banks, ask what the smallest loan you can take out is, usually between $5-7k. Take the loan with no credit, leave the car as collateral, which will be parked in their company garage, which will be fitted with cameras, have on duty security and only let bank employees in to park there. Return days later, return the cash, pay the few dollars interest and viola.

If anything's more extravagant than simply using GPS, it's this idea.. All the paperwork, adding an inquiry to your credit report every month you go to Vegas (not you, but people who do go every month), being declined if you have bad credit, etc. or simply press a button on your phone?

I am just not seeing practical reasons for GPS in my personal situation.

I feel you, and to each his own. Just don't understand why you fixated on the GPS feature when there's two versions of the alarm, one with GPS and one without. If someone doesn't have a need for GPS they can get the regular version, which is cheaper and still far superior to a regular remote alarm.

Sorry for derailing your build, Nola! lol..

02-01-12, 06:54 PM
in the future I may look into it, but right now im rarely far from it and when I go out I usually valet at the casino and know everyone there...

as for the screws, not nails, theres alot and for the subs each sub will be getting roughly 1,700 watts. so about 3,400 total

want to get some work done but again its raining and get MDF wet enough it expands about 6 times its size...I never want to build a box like one this for a long, long time...Its glued, screwed and ready for the next step.

02-01-12, 09:29 PM
I don't actually park where there they charge me and for the most part, I am never on toll roads. However if I chose to I could do it. That however does not mean that I actually do. Get a handicapped plate and never have parking woes again. Simple as that.


roughly 1,700 watts. so about 3,400 total.

The types of numbers I like to hear on projects like this.

02-02-12, 12:53 AM
and thats real power on a 12 volt sysem, not PEAK 5,000 like some products claim where using there amps you need a nuclear reactor to get that power.

i drug the box outside, threw it on a stand to work on it and the rain started again, so inside it went again...however I did cut the box up inside the house, yes i cut it up, a circular saw and jigsaw makes a mess inside...lesson known but learned again...then i went and had a few drinks, ready for bed now

02-02-12, 06:31 AM
^I built my amp racks and one of my battery boxes inside, because it started to rain and at the time, I lacked the room in my now spacious and vast garage.

It makes a mess...but it's totally worth it.

02-02-12, 01:47 PM
yep, im not exactly proud of the cuts i made, I was rushing and didnt have much light, but its not to much of an issue...

if you were looking at the box and wondering, how will you get it in and out since the back is higher than the trunk rods...well i had a plan all along. its not done but its getting there...I cut the top back part of the box off. now the main big box will have an MDF lip all around, maybe put a gasket on to prevent air leaks...Ill have someone hold the small top section cut off from inside the car through the back deck, then I will slide the big box into place. from the inside of the box i will screw it all together so its one complete box again...with or without the airtank in the way, it would be impossible for someone to take the box out

got a line ready to cut

across the back side, trimmed the sides, need to trim the top of the back board now and sand them smooth

top cut off

big box, topless

box on its side but stood the pieces together

need a circle jig now for the sub cutouts, if I dont buy one this weekend a co-worker will have me one monday

02-02-12, 01:51 PM
There you go. Now measure the dimensions, make 10 boxes and sell them on LIL for 200 each.

02-02-12, 08:04 PM
i really dont want to build another box like this again. for a long long time

got out today, managed to get the lower half box in the trunk... the driverside theres some metal on the bottom side of the rear deck. i can sand the box or trim the metal but either way I have to do something to get the box in...then it started to sprinkle so I put it up again...


that open square is the problem, just on one side

pulled the box out and just sitting there, i still need to trim the upper corners for the trunk frame so i can close the trunk without hitting the box

02-02-12, 09:32 PM
didnt have the sander home but did have the dremel tool so , square be gone


corners cut off, sides sit flush with the rest of the dash

02-05-12, 09:04 PM
start off with saturday pictures, i cleaned the car up to ride this weekend since it rained alot the previous week, saturday i took the pics, shiny and looking good, right after that all the time and effort cleaning it went down the drain b/c it started storming

shiny wheel and tire with the new gorilla locks

then this, so no wirk got down, plus I have a cold and had a hangover so it worked out ok

got out today around lunch time, found a new use for my rims, hold the wire nicely out my way instead of one the ground

pulled the rear seat to run the wires to the bag for the air gauge, also ran some bass control and sound processor wires, those arent exactly where i need them right now, also ran out of zipties...you can see here where that box got relocated under the rear dash

now that i relieved the metal that was holding me up, i put the box in and now its hitting the sides of the box at the top preventing me from going all the way in, about 1/2" to go, so i pulled it out and ground the edges but i didnt try fitting it again. ill do that tomorrow.

the way i cut the front baffle board to be bigger than the rear board was to fit in the trunk a certain way. after cutting the reliefs for the decklid to come down, it was hitting that first board closer to the center, so I just cut it flush with the back board

put everything back together for now

went inside and measured the box for the lip to secure the 2 peices, cut some 1.5" mdf strips out of 3/4MDF, secured them, then removed, glued and added extra screws to make it permanent


you can see the lip, once in the car ill screw the box together from the inside

02-06-12, 04:44 PM
had to take a break to cool off before i screw something up...1 step forward, 2 steps back, nothing on my part but my impatient brother trying to goto work instead of asking me to move my car, well he put the trailer hitch into it and screwed a lot of stuff up. then said, get prices and ill pay for it....im still pissed off

needs a headlight, marker light, headlight mounting bucket, grill, hood hinges and body work to the hood in two spots

anway, pics


hit on side the grill and damages hood


onto the box, I made a circle maker, made it the wrong size so my circle came to 16.50" instead of 16.75" corrected it and made two perfect circles


you can see where i erased the first one, now the correct one

left plenty room in the center after the subs overlap so I can fit a port

took a long time with the jigsaw to knock these 1.5" holes out, new blades to. almost 15 minutes each hole


i may go mess with it more after i cool off

02-06-12, 05:01 PM
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

02-06-12, 05:17 PM
Sorry to hear about that. Id be sick if that happened to me. Ill do all I can to keep someone from beatin on my brother, but if he backs his car into mine,,,its ok for ME to beat on him a little bit!!

02-06-12, 05:18 PM
sucks about the accident but I'm sure you'll get it all handled! The parts someone here should be able to hook you up with. Fleetwood guy probably has all the stuff you need at a great price!

sub box looks awesome, too

02-06-12, 06:07 PM
i found the lights and bucket online, im hoping a friend of mine comes through where it will be alot cheaper, all the lights and bucket are N/A from the dealer.

the grill is my main concern b/c now its up to $590 now, I paid $550 for it. a lil bodywork and paint on the hood and fenders and itll be good

02-06-12, 07:36 PM
removed the light and bucket, cleaned the mess up, straightened one of the mounting brackets, now its parts quest.

I put the subs in, secured them for test fit, pulled them out, test fit the box, now a hump on the floor is holding me from that last 1/2" and also the decklid is still hitting the box so it will need some more trimming



02-06-12, 09:29 PM
drug the box out a lil while ago, looks like im going to have to cut the lip off of most of the top so i might as well take it all the way off. that will have everything clear except to small spots on the side. hopefully i can modify it to work, dont know yet

yes i was inside the box

i did knock it back a lil more after this pic


almost closed, almost

02-07-12, 08:38 PM
hacked the top of the box off, need to sand it a lil more and figure how to beauty it up later, i think ill still need to sand the sides as its hitting a lil but I can close my trunk now with the box in, most of the issue is on the passenger side


1 sub in and yes a second person would have been wonderful

2 18" subs in, arms feel like wet noodles now.

set the tank in, I hope the valves can take all the bass they are going to receive soon

now need some fiberglass resin and to make a port then I can get in for good.


and yes the back did lower, Ill see how it drives tomorrow, prolly need to air the shocks up. better yet get the airbags installed

02-07-12, 09:45 PM
I have the headlight/bucket/corner if you need it.

02-07-12, 09:47 PM
thanks but i found one on ebay today $175 shipped, everywhere else I tried wanted $160+ but didnt have a marker light and I need it asap cuz i cant drive far at night now without risk of being ticketed...ill have this one friday or saturday

02-08-12, 06:10 AM
That's an awesome speaker box and air tank and all. I simply couldn't give up that type of trunk space though, its a real LUXURY of the whole land yacht experience.

I don't always stuff a bunch of junk in my trunk, but when I do, I stuff my junk in a Cadillac.

02-08-12, 08:58 AM
Solution: one awesome sounding Cadillac + one awesome wagon.


I hope that air setup holds too. I was thinking about that earlier.

02-08-12, 01:50 PM
i know some people who have stuff like this in smaller setups, no issues so ill find out soon...hooked one sub up last night just to test it so many factors to make it loud later, plus it was 10:30, of course the box is not sealed right now, no port, and i hook the amp to a battery so now real electrical system, amp not set ect...the sub was barely moving but the car was bumping pretty good...I know when they are slamming im going to break something

02-09-12, 03:35 AM
DEFINITELY LOOKING GOOD. Sorry to hear about the damage, but I suppose it could have been worse. Just keep moving forward.

I know when they are slamming im going to break something

From my experience, yes.


I hope that air setup holds too. I was thinking about that earlier.

Shouldn't be anything worth worrying about. Air system fittings are fairly reliable and difficult to break, even from direct trauma. I think the only time I ever came close was putting way too much PSI through a solenoid. It wouldn't open as a built-in safety feature, because it was only meant for handling a max of 200, I believe, but the pressurized air was escaping very slightly and everyone within a mile probably thought their ears were ringing simultaneously. When in doubt, get beefier fittings.

02-09-12, 09:46 PM
last night one of the drivers side rollers decided to break, I wont lie I hate those things cuz they a pain in the butt to change...got it done today though so my window works fine again...few months back I changed the waterpump, it started leaking out the weep hole, nothing major but I had some free time so I changed that today also...of course I remember last time how to get the air out the system, twice it did not work so I used a combo of that method with the vacuum tool tool and using the tool to replace the air with water/coolant and it was good from there...while the panel was off I figure ill show one of those lil bastards for someone who will experiance this as they all fail sooner or later, also took a pic of the door speakers since i never showed that either



02-11-12, 03:33 PM
planned to fiberglass the inside of the box today but its too cold to do it...if i had another vehicle it wouldnt be as much a problem...supposed to freeze tonight, if tommorow warms up i may try to get it done.

instead I mounted the amps to the side panels, flipped the sundown logos proper, temp mounted the RF 360x2 sound processor so I could get the RCA's to the amp for my door speakers, bought some wire to get a few things done here and there...coming slowly but surely

gotta find a way to mount the side panels a lil more sturdy, the pass side is good, the drivers side needs a lil work but when the bass is cranked i dont want stuff moving around

no buttons all bluetooth controlled sound processor

some wires in there temporary sundown 125x2

sundown 100x4

02-12-12, 10:35 AM
Cant wait to see this in the lowrider mag. I'm gonna be like, I watched that car grow up from a baby...

02-12-12, 12:42 PM
i dont think its going as far as lowrider mag, ill tell ya it takes a really long time to get in too...my friend took pics of his and it was 3 years later and his car was completly redone before it finally appeared

02-12-12, 05:17 PM

[/COLOR]pulled the subs and box today, still way to cold to fiberglass...layed some tape down on the floor so the resin doesnt stick to the floor, remember I need to get this box in and out

this is the top shelf near the rear seat, notice how I stretched the tape tightly across the indentation instead of pressing it in. another move so it doesnt get stuck in the car

used almost a whole role of tape, where the jack goes I made a bridge over it so again it doesnt get stuck in the car... its about 40 degrees outside, I need it at the least 60, id prefer 70-80's though

02-12-12, 07:44 PM
took a break, went to dinner/lunch with family, a lil mardi gras parade action and took my frozen self back home, decided to throw the box back in. its ready just waiting on the damn weather to warm up


02-13-12, 01:27 AM
Random note:

Hey Kevin, remember that distribution block I said you could have? It's twin can be seen in the second photo on this page.

02-13-12, 01:45 PM
that was temporary to hook my 2 amps up so i could have some sound, honestly I have had that distribution block since 1996 in prolly 6 different cars...think ill keep it forever

02-13-12, 08:19 PM
OK, Theres a point when your doing something and you say, "I just F*@#&!D up", how bad, well well see eventually

the weather hasnt been right to fiberglass but i wanted to get it done anyway, get home and it starts sprinkling so i hold off...no rain so I jump out there getting everything setup, $60 gallon of resin, 2 8sqft packs of fiberglass cloth and ready to get down.

I layed the cloth out how i needed it, mixed the resin and didnt under or over make it, just had enough. start laying the resin on glass and realised that...

yep, forgot to put the mold release on. when this dries and I finally can attempt to pop it out, well see if it comes out or comes out in pieces

anyway, PICS

there is cloth there, just saturated so its see through

yes that is my weather machine, lil space heater, hopefully the car doesnt burn down


heat on and venting as I type

02-14-12, 01:53 PM
of course problem after problem...fiberglass resin doesnt want to cure as it should, still real wet and sticky...ima leave the trunk open in the sun till i get off work...then ill probally make a batch of resin with a lot more hardener than recomended, brush it on and let it activate the rest...hopefully, i done it that way before...

if not it will take a few days to dry and im impatient right now

02-14-12, 08:33 PM
think ill be a lil patient, left it in the sun today since it warmed up a lil bit. everywhere sunlight hit cured pretty good, the other areas I guess Ill give them a day or two. im so damn ready to get this thing in for good, if i can get it out to put the top of the box on.


parked the car in the back lot, trunk open toward the sun and left it there roughly 4 hours