: Dubs



BLitzkrieg
06-07-11, 10:20 PM
The rear rubs but I am going to flare out the rear fender and it should work
http://www.phone2forum.com/interface/scripts/viewimage.php?photoid=55393&code=SGrx7na3UKuYsttJPMOTGg%3D%3D%0A

http://www.phone2forum.com/interface/scripts/viewimage.php?photoid=55421&code=RBGe8yqgzA5Mda%2B5uxuIkQ%3D%3D%0A

Junkie414
06-07-11, 10:32 PM
Nice, what wheel/tire combo? and which springs?

JOEYCTS-V
06-07-11, 11:18 PM
Pretty cool. I like the color of the wheels with the flat black.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 12:12 AM
Let's see a shot straight down, I'm curious to see how far they stick out.

haterinc
06-08-11, 02:35 AM
Yes looks good! What rim and tire size? Guessing d3 springs but are the fronts trimmed?

MReiland
06-08-11, 06:01 AM
I like it a'lot

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 07:25 AM
They are the TSW Nurburgring 20x10 et35mm and they stick out quite a bit. Thruthfully I should go with the 20x10.5 et65 and perhaps use spacers. The tires are the Hankook V12 285-30-20 in the rear and 255-35-20 front. The Front fit perfectly. They are 20x9 Et35. I paid $285 each from Wheels Next. They have a fitment garrantee. I am going to give them a call today about the 10.5 wide wheels however I like the deep look of these wheels so I am going to try and flare the fender first. My buddy has a fender roller and he thinks we can flare it enough. He has rolled/flareds hundreds of car fenders.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 08:23 AM
...I am going to try and flare the fender first. My buddy has a fender roller and he thinks we can flare it enough. He has rolled/flareds hundreds of car fenders.

Don't do it on your car. Trust me. I used to rent out fender rollers and have done a lot of it as well. With the way our fenders are made and the shape the fender lips are, you won't be happy with the results if you try to flare them.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 08:32 AM
...The Front fit perfectly. They are 20x Et35 (i think)...

Can you take a picture of the front ones looking straight down or straight from the front looking down the side of the car? I would love to see how they fit. I was debating trying the 20x8.5's with the 43mm offset instead of the 20x9 ET 35 like you got.

newcadman
06-08-11, 08:57 AM
They are the TSW Nurburgring 20x10 et35mm and they stick out quite a bit. Thruthfully I should go with the 20x10.5 et65 and perhaps use spacers. The tires are the Hankook V12 285-30-20 in the rear and 255-35-20 front. The Front fit perfectly. They are 20x Et35 (i think). I paid $285 each from Wheels Next. They have a fitment garrantee. I am going to give them a call today about the 10.5 wide wheels however I like the deep look of these wheels so I am going to try and flare the fender first. My buddy has a fender roller and he thinks we can flare it enough. He has rolled/flareds hundreds of car fenders.




What happened to those Federal tires that you felt were better than drag radials and you were going to use to get into the 10's with ?

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 09:02 AM
What happened to those Federal tires that you felt were better than drag radials and you were going to use to get into the 10's with ?

I still have them, but I gave in and put a 2.55 pulley on the car. It was just too easy and cheap to pass up. BTW I never said they were better than drag radials, I just couldn't believe I was pulling 1.6 60' in the cold on them.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 09:08 AM
Are those the bronze wheels? They do look sweet! Can't wait to see a pic(s) of how the front fitment is... :thumbsup:

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 09:20 AM
The fronts are 20x9 35mm offset.

musclesbmf
06-08-11, 09:23 AM
they look great!! Can't beat it for the money.
Prev question was asked about the springs... yes they are D3's and the fronts are trimmed by 1/4 coil. I know because he bought them from me :-)

Mark

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 09:46 AM
They are the TSW Nurburgring 20x10 et35mm and they stick out quite a bit. Thruthfully I should go with the 20x10.5 et65 and perhaps use spacers. The tires are the Hankook V12 285-30-20 in the rear and 255-35-20 front. The Front fit perfectly. They are 20x Et43. I paid $285 each from Wheels Next. They have a fitment garrantee. I am going to give them a call today about the 10.5 wide wheels however I like the deep look of these wheels so I am going to try and flare the fender first. My buddy has a fender roller and he thinks we can flare it enough. He has rolled/flareds hundreds of car fenders.
Kudos for jumping in with 2 feet. The Z06 rim with a 10.5" wide wheel has 58mm of positive offset. The 20X10.5" TSW wheel has 65mm of positive offset. Using the offset calculator, it has 7mm less inner clearance than the Z06 wheel.

So swap out to the 10.5" wheel and find out from the guys who run the Z06 as drag radials. Find out what size spacer they use and add 7mm to that. Currently, your 10" wheel sticks out 17mm more than a 10.5" Z06 wheel. That's a LOT!

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 09:50 AM
I saw the 20" TSWs on a 5 series Bimmer and LOVED them. If it wasn't so much more difficult to get 19" R compounds, I'd make my stockers as track wheels.

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 09:54 AM
Kudos for jumping in with 2 feet. The Z06 rim with a 10.5" wide wheel has 58mm of positive offset. The 20X10.5" TSW wheel has 65mm of positive offset. Using the offset calculator, it has 7mm less inner clearance than the Z06 wheel.

So swap out to the 10.5" wheel and find out from the guys who run the Z06 as drag radials. Find out what size spacer they use and add 7mm to that. Currently, your 10" wheel sticks out 17mm more than a 10.5" Z06 wheel. That's a LOT!

This is true sort of. Keep in mind there there is an additional 1" vertical clearance due to the 2" difference in wheel diameter. It will be 3/4" offset inward and 1/4" outward from factory. I can always use spacers with that wheel I can't with the one I have now and I don't want to mill down the wheel.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 11:53 AM
Actually they are the 43mm offset not 35. I just rechecked. So there is 8mm more towards the fender.

Oh so they are the 20x8.5 with the 43mm offset on the front?

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 11:56 AM
This is true sort of. Keep in mind there there is an additional 1" vertical clearance due to the 2" difference in wheel diameter. It will be 3/4" offset inward and 1/4" outward from factory. I can always use spacers with that wheel I can't with the one I have now and I don't want to mill down the wheel.
Unless there is a suspension component that is completely vertical(there isn't) the 2" in diameter is almost never going to be an issue.

As for spacers, I don't understand your statement. You said you have a fitment guarantee. So get the 10.5" wheel and a spacer. It will fit inside your fender and you don't have to mill down anything.

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 12:00 PM
Besides, guys are running 18X9.5" TSWs without issue. Those guys have almost IDENTICAL inner clearance to your 20" wheel. Theirs sits 1mm further from the inside. So the 18" argument is debunked.

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 12:03 PM
Oh so they are the 20x8.5 with the 43mm offset on the front?
Good question. He must be running staggered, then. The rears, according to TSW, can only be 35mm if it's 20x10"...

Junkie414
06-08-11, 12:30 PM
Why not just mill down the wheels on the inside?

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 01:32 PM
I don't want to remove any structual integrity from a wheel on a heavy high HP car that I track.

Wagon heres your pic
http://www.phone2forum.com/interface/scripts/viewimage.php?photoid=55440&code=zc%2BNBp80uakVHFHeClN4Hg%3D%3D%0A

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 01:36 PM
Other side
http://www.phone2forum.com/interface/scripts/viewimage.php?photoid=55441&code=aNx1y%2BlMNmeAYkNLKdciSQ%3D%3D%0A

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 01:36 PM
...Wagon heres your pic...

Awesome, thank you! Those fit perfect. I was going to order the 20x8.5 ET43 the other day, but the same place you ordered yours from told me TSW wouldn't guarantee the 20x8.5's would clear the calipers.

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 01:56 PM
So are they 20x8.5 in front? Still no answers, just pics and us guessing...

musclesbmf
06-08-11, 02:05 PM
Perfect offset up front.
Looks great!

Mark

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 02:14 PM
I'll get the actual sizes, Im on the phone with them now.

thebigjimsho
06-08-11, 02:16 PM
I'll get the actual sizes, Im on the phone with them now.
I'd love to visit TSW and just plug and play all their different sizes. The 20x9.5" wheel doesn't come in the same offset as the 18x9.5"...

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 02:30 PM
I'll get the actual sizes, Im on the phone with them now.

And probably finding out they don't make the 20x10.5 ET65 in the bronze color. :(

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 02:42 PM
And probably finding out they don't make the 20x10.5 ET65 in the bronze color. :(

Funny you should say that. I could find any conformation of a bronze in that color either. Also I was hung up on by Wheels Next and they won't pick up the phone. They claimed that the car is not stock because it is lowered and that is why it is not fitting. I replied telling that that the wheel was out of the well no matter what the ride height is and that is not up to DOT code.

Im most likely going to roll the fender.

wfo
06-08-11, 02:52 PM
Why did you purchase a set of very sweet wheels that don't fit correctly?

Car looks great though.

Caddy Wagon
06-08-11, 03:00 PM
Why did you purchase a set of very sweet wheels that don't fit correctly?...

WheelsNext has a "Guaranteed Fit" policy, and when they sold them to him, they told him they would fit.

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 03:02 PM
COnfirmed front = 20x9 et35. They are on the horn with TSW about new fitment.

newcadman
06-08-11, 04:57 PM
I still have them, but I gave in and put a 2.55 pulley on the car. It was just too easy and cheap to pass up. BTW I never said they were better than drag radials, I just couldn't believe I was pulling 1.6 60' in the cold on them.




Sorry good buddy, but to quote you from your own 11-12-10 post that's titled "Ran several 11.4 @121 mph on stock boost and 1.6 60' on street tires" it reads as follows : " I do a second gear burnout in them and they hook, better than any drag radial."

The part that caught my eye and gave me a reason to maybe thinking about trying a set of Federals was when you wrote, " better than any drag radial"!

In retrospect, was this a misprint or perhaps you misspoke ?

BLitzkrieg
06-08-11, 05:49 PM
I misspoke I meant in my experience. I'm sure there are better DRs now.

haterinc
06-09-11, 02:20 AM
This is true sort of. Keep in mind there there is an additional 1" vertical clearance due to the 2" difference in wheel diameter. It will be 3/4" offset inward and 1/4" outward from factory. I can always use spacers with that wheel I can't with the one I have now and I don't want to mill down the wheel.

I'm lost on this part too since the rim OD is 1" different and actual OD of rear with the tires you mentioned is only 0.12" smaller than the stock OD? Was this in ref to rim width vs offset orientation?

BLitzkrieg
06-09-11, 08:42 AM
I'm lost on this part too since the rim OD is 1" different and actual OD of rear with the tires you mentioned is only 0.12" smaller than the stock OD? Was this in ref to rim width vs offset orientation?

I believe he was talking about drag radials mounted on an 18" wheel. I am using a 20" wheel the daimeter difference is 2" the radius difference is 1" so there is 1" more wheel clearance.on the vertical plane.

haterinc
06-09-11, 01:08 PM
Gotcha thx

haterinc
06-09-11, 09:50 PM
Lookin at your pics again and I think your side fender vents would look good if matched to the wheels or at least the cf wrap?

King335i
06-10-11, 02:22 AM
Super clean! Looks great.

atdeneve
06-10-11, 02:25 AM
CF wrap? Looks like a flat matte job to me.

haterinc
06-10-11, 03:24 AM
Obv you paid no attn to the hood or grill frame ;)

BLitzkrieg
06-10-11, 12:00 PM
Lookin at your pics again and I think your side fender vents would look good if matched to the wheels or at least the cf wrap?

I agree but the 09 is a pain to wrap and look good. In order to paint it I would have to get the inniative to remove them, glassbead them, prep and paint. Someday