: Winter Tires



the blur
06-05-11, 10:16 AM
anybody downgrade to 20" or even smaller for winter tires? I just got the truck, and the 22" tires don't look like they will do well in the winter.......

fivepix
06-05-11, 12:37 PM
I run 18's in the winter and 24's in the summer. 22's would be alright if you have the right tires. IMO 18's perform the best in the snow.

hcvone
06-06-11, 08:05 AM
We have a home in upstate NY, I switch all my Escalade's to 18's in the winter, and use off road tires for my truck that we keep up there. I used Cooper Discoverer STT tires and Goodyear Dura Trac in 275/65/18 size, still need chains above about 3 feet of snow unless it's a real light snow.

the blur
06-06-11, 08:41 AM
Does it ride better with 18"-off road tires, or the 22" factory setup ?

fivepix
06-06-11, 09:43 AM
18's will ride smoother than the 22's the more tire better the ride.

the blur
06-06-11, 10:02 AM
18's + OFF ROAD TIRES, is what I was asking !! OFF ROAD tires are usually very harsh.

hcvone
06-06-11, 02:53 PM
Yes they are kind of harsh if you have no snow, lucky we don't have that problem from Thanksgiving to April up there, and traction is way more important to me. My trucks that go back and forth have Revo's or Michelin LTX A/T 2, they will work pretty well in med snow depth, and are fine in PA.

the blur
06-06-11, 05:07 PM
Are they harsher than the 22" 's, with the low profile factory tires?

hcvone
06-06-11, 10:12 PM
No it's just noise, the off road tires "sing" on the highway, but ride much smoother than the 22's

gragravar
06-10-11, 12:34 AM
I picked up a set of 17s from a previous gen escalade for dirt cheap and run snows on those. The ride is great, and so is the snow traction.

Looks like this for the winter:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5084/5347104065_aa2f814811.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26114177@N05/5347104065/)
IMG_5750 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26114177@N05/5347104065/) by flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/people/26114177@N05/)

the blur
10-21-11, 12:39 PM
Did you transfer over the pressure sensors, or just brought a new set of sensors ?

cangolf
10-21-11, 03:03 PM
since I am north of NY, tend to have experience with winter, run a set of 18's on another set of rims. Check out ebay, I bought a set of sensors for less than $100 and with the sticky on the how to reset the sensors, it is a quick change over and eliminates the light on the dash. Unfortunately only a few week away from the the winter change over. :-(

chakde
10-22-11, 04:47 AM
I live up in Northern Alberta in Canada and I just bought 18 s as well. I looked around and found the 18 inch Cadillac wheels and using Blizzacks. This will be the first time with the Blizzacks for me. Just thru them on last night. Now just have to reprogram the new sensors for TPMS.

lousy_investor
10-22-11, 04:52 PM
I live up in Northern Alberta in Canada and I just bought 18 s as well. I looked around and found the 18 inch Cadillac wheels and using Blizzacks. This will be the first time with the Blizzacks for me. Just thru them on last night. Now just have to reprogram the new sensors for TPMS.

I live near Toronto, Ontario and I followed the recommendation from this board and got 18's for the winter. I put blizzaks on as well. Worked really well last Winter but I had nothing to compare to as I never had my escalade on all seasons before in the Winter... From time to time I second guess my decision to go with 18s for the winter as they make the truck look a little lame. Then again, safety comes first. :)

Punmax
10-22-11, 05:53 PM
anybody downgrade to 20" or even smaller for winter tires? I just got the truck, and the 22" tires don't look like they will do well in the winter.......

Your 22 inch wheels will be fine. Just get some winter tires. I have ran my 24s through winter with summer tires. Did perfectly fine.

the blur
11-05-11, 08:57 AM
I just ebayed a set of 18's. now I will order the 275 blizzak, which is one size bigger than what the factory uses for 18's, but the OD is very close the 22's. One less worry about wifey during the winter.

Hawk-TDZ
11-05-11, 12:30 PM
I run 17" Dick Cepek Rims and 265/70R17 Firestone Winterforce for the winter on my 07 EXT and 16" American Racing rims with 265/75R16 Blizzacks on our 04 ESV Platinum, both work great in the snow but the Blizzaks are abit better on ice then the Winterforce

murphy
11-05-11, 02:59 PM
Here's what I run...18" take offs and Blizzaks
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http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/gpchase/IMG_1969.jpghttp://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/gpchase/IMG_1965.jpg

the blur
11-05-11, 04:55 PM
That is exactly my plan. except for the tire rack bags :canttalk:

Nixin
11-05-11, 10:17 PM
Same on the Blizzaks and Cadi 18" wheel's. Gotta say the ESV looks so MUCH nicer with the 22" wheel's though.

murphy
11-05-11, 10:25 PM
One of the biggest factors not going to a true snow tire (not all season which are garbage for summer and garbage for winter) is the inability to TURN. Most anything that is larger than 18" and wider that 265 have extremely poor turning characteristics. The car almost always PUSHES and without sterring you can get into real bad situations very quickly..

bfrangakis
11-06-11, 11:05 AM
I run my 08 Escalade with 18" rims... recommended by all 5 tire shops that i went to as wel as the dealer

felixgun
11-06-11, 06:29 PM
So I'm not about to buy new rims for just the winter and I'm moving from Louisiana to Colorado. What tires do you guys recommend for the factory 22's and snowy conditions?

murphy
11-06-11, 07:06 PM
Well you should also consider:
1) additional cost for 22" tires over 18"
2) tire mounting and balancing every season change over
3) trashing your 22" wheels you will get running in winter conditions with salt and sand
4) improved ride 18" will give you over rough winter roads compared to the 22"
5) better winter performance from 18's

hcvone
11-07-11, 08:18 AM
Blizzaks just don't give me enough traction in the deep snow, had them for 4 years, they were fine for getting there, but really need an off road tires for feet of snow where we live

jimwalston
11-07-11, 10:12 AM
22" winter tires are rare and expensive. I used winter tires in the past. So a downgrade in size will help with selection and price. All season MS tires do suck in the snow but my brother has had very good results with Goodyear Silent Armor which are mountain/snow flake rated. He has used winter tires in the past so he can compare. Only problem is they only come in 20" and down.

Since I lifted my truck, I went with a 20" wheel and Goodyear Duratracs(snow flake rated). I'm looking forward to testing them out in the mountains of WV this winter. I've heard they do really well and you can install studs.
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cangolf
11-16-11, 12:49 PM
If anyone happens to be interested in a complete set (4) of TPMS sensors, I have an extra set, pm me and we can work out the details etc,

lousy_investor
11-20-11, 05:40 PM
hcvone or murphy, when you put on the 18" for winter, do you worry about the difference in wheel diameter causing a discrepancy in the speedometer and odometer? I have run mine like that for all of last winter but never worried about it. A friend of mine just asked me the other day and I didn't know what to say. :)

cheers!

murphy
11-20-11, 05:51 PM
The two tire sizes are so close there would be no concern.
Stock 22's are 32.2" diameter and the Bridgestone Blizzack 18" DM-V1 are 31.5 or 647 revs per mile versus 660

luxurylife33
11-20-11, 08:09 PM
We have a home in upstate NY, I switch all my Escalade's to 18's in the winter, and use off road tires for my truck that we keep up there. I used Cooper Discoverer STT tires and Goodyear Dura Trac in 275/65/18 size, still need chains above about 3 feet of snow unless it's a real light snow.

anywhere near margretville/roxbury?

MrSplenda
11-20-11, 09:56 PM
My stock 22's did fine with the factory tires. I climbed two mountain passes in Washington and Oregon while pushing snow with my bumper and I never broke traction. Stocks are fine IMO.

murphy
11-20-11, 10:18 PM
Certainly stocks are adequate..especially if you have awd..But for me I don't want to trash my Platinum 22's which also are so darn rough on winter roads...

hcvone
11-21-11, 08:48 AM
My stock 22's did fine with the factory tires. I climbed two mountain passes in Washington and Oregon while pushing snow with my bumper and I never broke traction. Stocks are fine IMO.

Got stuck 4 times in less than a mile with the stock 22's, they are basic highway tires and offer almost no traction in deep snow, your not in real snow unless you are pushing snow over your windshield ;). I am glad you had no issues, need real tires if you drive in real snow, it's not the going forward part, it's the stopping and turning, and without self cleaning tread the stock 22's can't turn and stop. :)

the blur
11-25-11, 06:23 PM
I just brought the 18" blizzaks, and a set of 18" wheels off ebay. Mounted them today. The cost of minimal because my 22's will last me years longer now,