: Who made that decision? Embassies usings BMWs!



orconn
06-01-11, 03:55 PM
During a review of the number of "limousines" in Federal service it was revealed that the United States State Department had purchase a number of BMW & series 7 "limousines" for use by embassies in countries where driving to the right is the law.

So now even our embassies are driving German luxury cars, with U.S. flags on the front fenders! This is truly embarrassing; it's not as though we don't produce cars, much less luxury cars any more. I am sure some ledger lifter in the State Department came up with this great idea as a great cost savings measure, but what does this say about our pride in our own products? With all the superfluous bucks our embassies spend on entertaining and promotion of American goods and services you would think the cost of customizing (are right hand drive Cadillacs not produced anymore?) could easily be accommodated within the State Department's budget somewhere.

Next we will be supporting using U.S. foreign aid to be used to buy European and Asian military products ...... oops we already do that!

gary88
06-01-11, 04:18 PM
I'm guessing they're the High Security edition. Armor plating, polycarbonate-laminated windows, optional center console gun case :2thumbs:

http://i.imgur.com/iUoEw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/B1nKA.jpg

hueterm
06-01-11, 04:36 PM
Since all Cadillac thinks anyone wants to buy anymore is a CTS, I don't think that will work as a limo -- right or left hand drive.

77CDV
06-01-11, 08:38 PM
The cost of armor plating, stretching, and converting a DTS to RHD would likely be prohibitive compared to using a 7 Series. I suppose they could always use the Suburban or Ford Excursion.

orconn
06-01-11, 09:07 PM
The cost of armor plating, stretching, and converting a DTS to RHD would likely be prohibitive compared to using a 7 Series. I suppose they could always use the Suburban or Ford Excursion.

According to the article, apparently the government has a lot of armored DTS's. I don't see any real need to convert the cars from left to right hand drive. Having driven left hand drive cars in right drive countries for several years I don't see the problem. I would think American embassy personnel would be driving personal cars that were left hand drive, that were brought over with their personal effects.

Playdrv4me
06-02-11, 05:07 AM
Wait, so those BMWs in the DTS Fail video are belong to us?

orconn
06-02-11, 02:01 PM
Wait, so those BMWs in the DTS Fail video are belong to us?

Apparently!

greencadillacmatt
06-02-11, 11:32 PM
^All Your Fail Are Belong To Us, You Have No Chance To Survive, Make Your Time.

concorso
06-03-11, 01:47 PM
If I was a diplomat driving a 7 series, and due to popular opinion, it was replaced with a DTS...Id quit. Id much prefer to drive an 04 or 05 Towncar than any new DTS.

DouglasJRizzo
06-04-11, 10:51 PM
Unfortunately for US automakers, Euro sedans have more snoot appeal. I was never a fan of this admin and decisions like this help reinforce this feeling. I'd rather have a Ford Expedition or chev Suburban than a 7 series if I needed an armored tank.

Aron9000
06-04-11, 11:58 PM
If I were a diplomat, I'd buy this and have it imported. The DTS, even an armored one, is weaksauce comparatively speaking. If you're going to have an armored car, you need to start with something that was relatively tank like to start with, like a Fleetwood, Escalade, Town Car, Navigator, or Suburban.
http://www.mcsmk8.com/94-CAD/94-CAD.html

Stingroo
06-05-11, 12:09 AM
That Fleetwood is AMAZING.

orconn
06-05-11, 12:33 AM
If I were a diplomat, I'd buy this and have it imported. The DTS, even an armored one, is weaksauce comparatively speaking. If you're going to have an armored car, you need to start with something that was relatively tank like to start with, like a Fleetwood, Escalade, Town Car, Navigator, or Suburban.
http://www.mcsmk8.com/94-CAD/94-CAD.html

As a point of interest the Ambassador from the People's Republic of China, who lived in my neighborhood in Northern Virginia, did have a mid nineties Cadillac Fleetwood as his official car. It was chauffeur driven by an Embassy staff member and was equipped with lace doily like things at each seat (a typical car accessory in the Orient). I don't believe it was armored and I know it didn't have tinted windows. The car was dark blue metallic, I used to see it coming and going from our gated community.

If you were a diplomat you'd ride in the official car supplied by our government when performing official business, you could drive anything you wanted as your personal car and I wouldn't want to cope with most European or Asian capital cities in one of those mooses! They are fine for an American environment, but are just cumbersome gas hogs when you must negotiate heavy traffic on narrow laned roads.

77CDV
06-05-11, 12:36 AM
If I were a diplomat, I'd buy this and have it imported. The DTS, even an armored one, is weaksauce comparatively speaking. If you're going to have an armored car, you need to start with something that was relatively tank like to start with, like a Fleetwood, Escalade, Town Car, Navigator, or Suburban.
http://www.mcsmk8.com/94-CAD/94-CAD.html

And the beauty of it is, it doesn't look modified in any way.

Playdrv4me
06-05-11, 01:42 AM
If I were a diplomat, I'd buy this and have it imported. The DTS, even an armored one, is weaksauce comparatively speaking. If you're going to have an armored car, you need to start with something that was relatively tank like to start with, like a Fleetwood, Escalade, Town Car, Navigator, or Suburban.
http://www.mcsmk8.com/94-CAD/94-CAD.html

I have to agree. A DTS is a fine enough passenger car, but it doesn't scream "armor me" as far its overall durability and construction.

The rattles and suspension clunks in the following video certainly don't do a whole lot to change my opinion...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ZUTVESJPk

Aron9000
06-06-11, 05:30 AM
^DUDE, can you just imagine if the freaking President just showed up unannounced at your work, or at the same restaurant while you were having a burger???

Stingroo
06-06-11, 08:26 AM
^DUDE, can you just imagine if the freaking President just showed up unannounced at your work, or at the same restaurant while you were having a burger???

Sadly, yes. It's actually quite a huge pain in the ass.

I used to live in Kennebunk, Maine where the Bush compound (H.W. Bush, that is) is located. This was 2002. One time George W. decided to stop in for a visit with the parents and they all got this brilliant idea to eat at Dairy Queen. OUTSIDE. The Secret Service literally shut down the next two blocks of streets. I lived on one of those streets, and a SS agent actually told me to travel AROUND the perimeter despite the fact that I could SEE MY HOUSE from where we were standing and point it out. This was because I didn't have ID. HELLO, I was eleven years old.

F*ck that.