: 1968 DeVille - Can someone tell me what this part is (Carburetor/Choke Related)?



bhs82
05-30-11, 03:43 PM
VEHICLE
1968 Cadillac Coupe DeVille

I've ordered and am waiting for delivery on a Chilton Manual covering 1967-1989 Cadillacs. I prefer the Haynes, but the Haynes only covers 1970-1993 and the Factory Manuals seem to run $60+

In the mean time, I've taken pictures of a mechanism below that is broken and needs replacing. It looks like some sort of vacuume mechanism and seems to be choke related.

Basically, the "rod" inside the spring, protruding from the vaccume cylinder is broken right at the point where it enters the cylinder. When the accelerator is applied, the lever pressing against that rod moves back from it and the rod will intermittently fall out of place. Without that rod in place, the vehicle experiences hard starting.

My assumption is that temperature affects how far that rod protrudes which affects the position of the accelerator?
What seems odd to me is that this unit is completely independant of anything else (no hoses or connections), nor does it seem to have adjustment functions.

Anyway, the unit needs to be replaced.
Can someone please identify this part for me?

Also, will the spring come with the new part or is that a separate replacement?

Thanx.

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sven914
05-30-11, 04:13 PM
It appears to be the idle air control. It uses vacuum to adjust the engine speed at idle, by opening or closing the throttle plate.

Dirtywaterdiver
05-30-11, 04:49 PM
It works in adjusting your idle when the car is using the Air Conditioner and is under load.

It's a transmission downshift switch. It's called a Dash Pot. Part Number 1483692

Mine is actually missing so I am looking for one.

Fleetwood70
05-30-11, 05:29 PM
Dashpot, a throttle damper, keeps the throttle from suddenly returning to idle when you release the gas pedal to prevent stalling of the engine. So, you don't have to replace it if your car doesn't stall when suddenly releasing the throttle pedal, since it's broken, then just remove it. And it's not supposed to work as an idle stop, there is an idle speed screw for that. About hard starts, on carbureted engines it's recommended to depress the gas pedal slightly before starting.

CADforce69
05-30-11, 05:36 PM
The partīs name is Throttle Dash pot. When the engine is cold, it pushes the throttle adapter plate (connected to the accelerator lever) until warming up to increase engine speed and as manual says it prevents engine stalling in the way Fleetwood70 has told. Here you are the removal, installation and adjustment instructions from the 69 shop manual (69 and 68 carbs. are the same):

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Itīs difficult finding a new throttle dash pot. Only found one at Caddy Daddy for a 64 (But I think itīs the same): http://www.caddydaddy.com/FUEL-amp-CARBURATION/Carburetor/Dashpot/-1964-Cadillac-Carburetor-Dash-Pot-Check-Assembly-p4783.html

Another option is asking a carb. shop if they could fix your broken part.

BTW, You can buy a 68 CD Shop manual very cheap. It will be much more useful than the Chilton. That book contains much more info about 80s cadillacs than 60s. I first bought the Chilton and then bought a 69 CD Shop manual. It helps you a lot about every detail of your caddy: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-CADILLAC-Full-Line-Service-Shop-Repair-Manual-CD-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZYearQ3a1968Q7cMakeQ3aCadil lacQQhashZitem20b8a80ac5QQitemZ140536974021QQptZMo torsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

bhs82
06-15-11, 04:54 PM
Thank you all for your assistance... I've been out of town so I apologize for the late response.

The '64 version is not the same as the threaded rod is much shorter.

The appropriate part # is 1483692 from GM.
Other equivalent after market part numbers are D5-112R and 40-431 (Hope that helps others looking).
I was able to find (rare find) one on ebay for $14.40 shipped. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110692232365&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT#ht_914wt_759)

The installation image will be very helpful. Again, Thank You all.

CADforce69
06-15-11, 05:20 PM
Yeah, that was the only one for sale! Iīm glad you could find it finally and thanks for the info. You never know when youīll need a new one :thumbsup:

tqwrench
06-15-11, 09:16 PM
I had a 70 Fleetwood and that dashpot never worked properly, wound up ditching it. The car never stalled.