: 0-60 in 22 seconds, only $28,000



Jesda
05-26-11, 02:06 AM
Vehicle: 2011 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive Passion

"So it can't do 65, gets a range of 63-98 miles on a full charge and costs $599/month if you commit to a four-year/40,000-mile lease. That's $28,795 for a car you don't own. The Nissan Leaf, for example, runs $32,780.

But price isn't the point here, performance is. Just how poorly did the little Smart do? Follow the jump to find out..."

Specifications:
Drive Type: Transverse, mid-mounted-electric motor, rear-wheel drive
Transmission Type: Single-speed direct drive
Battery Capacity: 20 kW (30kW peak with "kickdown" function)
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 89 pound-feet
Steering System: Electric-assist rack-and-pinion
Suspension Type (front): MacPherson strut, antiroll bar
Suspension Type (rear): DeDion axle, coil springs, shock absorbers
Tire Size (front): 155/60R15
Tire Size (rear): 175/55R15
Tire Brand: Continental
Tire Model: ContiPro Contact
Tire Type: All-season
Wheel size: 15-by-4.5 inches front 15-by-5.5 inches rear
Wheel material (front/rear): Aluminum alloy
As tested Curb Weight (lb): 2,082


Test Results:

Acceleration
0-30 (sec): 5.6
0-45 (sec): 11.4
0-60 (sec): 22.4
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 22.1
0-75 (sec): N/A
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 22.0 @ 59.5

Braking
30-0 (ft): 32
60-0 (ft): 120

Handling
Slalom (mph): 53.5 (Only the Ford F-350 Super Duty King Ranch Crew and Mercedes G550 did worse)
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.69 (better than the G550)

Sound
Db @ Idle: 39.2
Db @ Full Throttle: 67.7 (62.5)
Db @ 70 62.5 mph Cruise: 66.5

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2011/05/il-track-tested-2011-smart-fortwo-electric-drive-passion.html

Horrible.

Edmunds doubled its performance by putting it on a trailer attached to a Ford Raptor.

Night Wolf
05-26-11, 02:47 AM
0-60 is 1/4mi lol

greencadillacmatt
05-26-11, 02:55 AM
^You saw that too? I love that last line, Jesda! :lol:

Night Wolf
05-26-11, 05:09 PM
Edmunds doubled its performance by putting it on a trailer attached to a Ford Raptor.

Heck, loading it onto a beat up Isuzu box truck would be a performance increase - atleast then it could do the speed limit on I75!

MauiV
05-27-11, 01:42 AM
It wouldnt fit in the bed of the Raptor?

My best friend drives a Raptor and would happily run over a Smartcar so we could fit it in the bed if neccessary.

Jailtime
05-27-11, 01:46 AM
I can think of a few other cars I'd rather lease for 600/month.

cadillac kevin
05-27-11, 10:17 AM
my cadillac with a blown HG and no compression (~70hp) can outrun it. In fact, I'd be willing to bet on it. I'd even be willing to bet I can outrun it.

gdwriter
05-27-11, 12:31 PM
If the Dumb for All wasn't bad enough, this is the Insanely Idiotic for Everybody.

Anybody who actually buys this POS is too stupid to live. But then, a collision with anything bigger than a golf cart should take care of that.

chatsworth
05-28-11, 01:59 PM
Unbelievable. I still don't get the electric thing. Until things get way better in terms of range and...ehh, nevermind, I'll never get it.

billc83
05-28-11, 02:58 PM
Electrics would make a great drivetrain if they had better range and (to a lesser extent, I know the 'charge an EV like a cell phone' argument) faster recharge times. The only way to help the range issue is 1) better batteries and 2) lighter weight. Both Lithium Ion batteries and carbon fiber are too expensive at the moment to mass produce a practical electric car. If the government really wanted to help out electrics, they'd waive some of the weight-adding features required on other vehicles (stability control, airbags, etc.) the first few years of production, giving them an actual chance to selling to someone "on the fence."

For the moment, EVs serve no one more than greenies, people with a small/medium commute, and people who want an economical second or third car.

Not to get too political, but 1 million electric cars on the road by 2015 was an incredibly unrealistic goal. And all this coming from me, who is fascinated with the prospect of alternative technology and have serious considerations into doing an electric conversion as a project.

Destroyer
05-28-11, 09:32 PM
What a waste of time and money. Who the hell would want this car? :hmm:

Ranger
05-28-11, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't be caught dead in one and would be far to embarrassed to be caught alive in one.

johnny kannapo
05-28-11, 10:13 PM
There is no spec for how much duration the battery has before becomes unsafely slow.
There is no spec for how much coal is burned to charge it up.
There is no spec for how long it take to recharge it.

It will be easy to build a brand new roomy garage, $90 for this one, a BIG plus.

http://images.hayneedle.com/mgen/digimarc.ms?img=master:UPL008.jpg&h=400&w=400

cadillac kevin
05-28-11, 10:16 PM
what happens if you get hit by a chevy truck? does the truck just drive over it?

johnny kannapo
05-28-11, 10:24 PM
what happens if you get hit by a chevy truck? does the truck just drive over it?

I think this one held up better than expected

http://smartcarsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Smart-Car-Crashes.jpg

cadillac kevin
05-28-11, 10:31 PM
^thats a volkswagen

cadillac kevin
05-28-11, 10:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKSPxQjPOm0

Ranger
05-28-11, 10:49 PM
I think this one held up better than expected

http://smartcarsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Smart-Car-Crashes.jpg
I doubt the same can be said for the driver.

or this one.

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://lovemysmartcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fake-smartcar-crash.jpeg&sa=X&ei=hLThTbW4OdKgtgeqrISZBw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFdQN5tRQwxqfC6jw2JB5KzK3OQVA

cadillac kevin
05-28-11, 10:59 PM
^thats actually a ford.

Jesda
05-28-11, 11:21 PM
Looks like a Sterling

Ranger
05-28-11, 11:22 PM
How can you tell?

Got it by googling "smart car crash photos".

Stingroo
05-28-11, 11:27 PM
Well neither of those cars are Smarts. Smart cars have a stupid wheel hub, and only have 3 lug nuts. Neither of those wrecked cars fit that.

Ranger
05-28-11, 11:41 PM
Well, either way, a "Smart" car could be substituted in either of those pictures and the outcome would be the same.

orconn
05-28-11, 11:54 PM
Under its' "sexy" outer skin and neat leather and wood interior a Sterling was just a first generation Acura Legend, albeit assembled with a minimum of quality control by British auto workers!

Jesda
05-29-11, 12:07 AM
http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/diesel-news/sterling-trucks-to-sell-version-of-dodge-ram/6254426+w640+cr1+re0+ar1/sterling-bullet-dump-truck.jpg

Destroyer
05-29-11, 06:19 PM
Looks like a SterlingLooks like scrap :yup:

Jailtime
05-29-11, 07:52 PM
That Smart car didn't fare so well in the frontal collision. Note how violently the dummy is rocked in that little POS, compared to the Merc C. That would suck to be paralyzed or killed in a 35MPH crash.

orconn
05-29-11, 08:05 PM
http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/diesel-news/sterling-trucks-to-sell-version-of-dodge-ram/6254426+w640+cr1+re0+ar1/sterling-bullet-dump-truck.jpg

Quess it's obvious that trucks are not my Forte! I thought you were referring to the eighties British import disaster brand the "Sterling"

Aron9000
06-02-11, 04:01 AM
http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/diesel-news/sterling-trucks-to-sell-version-of-dodge-ram/6254426+w640+cr1+re0+ar1/sterling-bullet-dump-truck.jpg

That's just a rebadged Dodge. Just as a class 8 Sterling is just a rebadged Ford AeroMax. Dailmer Benz bought out Ford's class 8 truck business(Ford AeroMax) in 1997 and slapped the Sterling badge on the truck.

The red dump truck in the pic looks more like a Mack to me.