: Stock ZO6 vs. Stock CTS-V



laynrockers
05-24-11, 01:14 AM
Just curious...

On the way to dinner the other night and I saw a nice black'd out zo6 up-ahead. So curious and a car lover I do my best to beat the traffic to get to him. He see's me on my way up and decides to take off before i could even get close. This left me to my thoughts "which stock car would win" ?

Also future note to all you happy pedlers out there. If you are down to race others and show off your car, Don't take off BEFORE I get there !! That only looks like your running away ..:yup:

SILVER-V
05-24-11, 01:35 AM
He would completely destroy you....those things are monsters, especially from a Roll.

Extra
05-24-11, 01:39 AM
I would think it would come down to traction. and if he can get the run flat's to hook up. I recently went head to head with a new vette at the drags both on stock tires and completely blew the vette away mostly due to the lack of traction on the run flats that come on the vette.

laynrockers
05-24-11, 01:41 AM
Was it the grand sport or Z06?

NC_Cadzilla
05-24-11, 03:18 AM
As I used to have a C6Z and now that I own a V, the Z would completely destroy you if both drivers are created equal. You talking abou a trap speed of over 6 mph between the two cars.

Domsz06
05-24-11, 07:50 AM
On the street if it's truly stock and stock it's a drivers race. Throw out the magazine times as those r professional drivers. On the street where anything can go it's a drivers race if it's from a dig. If it's from a roll the z will get u, but not by much. I dragged a stock when I was stock from a 40 roll. He got me by a car length when i backed off at 120. There are several threads on this. One was pretty heated.

If you look lots of stock z's run mid 11's at the 1/4 you see some v's running high 11's. But you also see some z's running 13's.... So on the street it's a drivers race. However any stock z that wants to race me next week..... He he he better pack a lunch ha ha ha!!!!!

EVIL_C5
05-24-11, 08:11 AM
definatly a drivers race....you have both ends of the spectrum as Dom said. you have Ranger that can put a stock Z in the 10's on drag radials only, and as he said, you see the 13 sec passes often. I would say I see more low 12 sec to high 11 sec C6Z's than anything else. I ran one from a light and got out on him by about 2 cars from the dig, but my car isnt stock either. From a roll, I probably would expect to get walked a little, but from a stop, I would think the V can get a little bit ahead.

JOEYCTS-V
05-24-11, 08:26 AM
My friends stock Z06 was only trapping 1-2 mph more than my V. All I had was a CAI.

njdevilz1
05-24-11, 09:15 AM
driver plays a huge role.
Technically the Z should destroy me.
Last week at the 1/4 mile track stock 07 Z best time was .02 faster than mine.
Probably using crap run flats and not the best driver , but still only 2 hundredths faster than what I ran.
If he had better tires and knew how to launch better , no doubt he would crush me but... like they say, You run what you brung.

brlong23
05-24-11, 09:21 AM
What about a stock vette or a grand sport? Would that be even or does the V have an advantage at that point?

Tuna
05-24-11, 09:28 AM
What about a stock vette or a grand sport? Would that be even or does the V have an advantage at that point?

The "stock" Vette and the Grand Sport have the 436HP engine but they also weigh ~1000 pounds less than the "V". The performance reports would indicate that the "V", a stock Vette and a GS would be a heads up race - again, it depends on the driver.

The stock Vette has the same size rear tires at the stock "V" sedan or wagon. The GS has wider tires and the new GY SuperCar G2 tire. The 2010 and newer Vettes with manuals get "launch control" which allows the driver to let go of the clutch while holding the throttle wide open.

A C6 ZO6 should blow away a stock "V".

hulksdaddy
05-24-11, 10:41 AM
A C6 ZO6 should blow away a stock "V".

:yup:

Gary Wells
05-24-11, 10:55 AM
I was tracking threads / posts of those people that posted 1/4 mile times in a bone stock '09 & up CTS-V a while back. This has not been updated for about a year or so.


Cad CTS-V2 bone stock elapsed times & MPH’s, Owners, 60 ft.

ET------MPH------trans-----owner---------60 ft. times

11.99-----118.4-----auto-----mpouls1--------1.823= 60 ft
12.01-----119.5-----auto-----Jutskin----------1.800= 60 ft
12.06-----119.6-----auto-----tedboss1--------1.950=60 ft
12.10-----118.0-----auto-----brent eb02
12.10-----119.0-----auto-----srt8/bmw
12.15-----117.1-----auto-----drunstix--------1.86= 60 ft
12.15-----116.5-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.885= 60 ft
12.20-----?????------auto-----fastrunner
12.22-----114.3-----auto-----veelocity-------1.83= 60 ft
12.31-----119.8-----manl----easy2speed
12.31-----114.4-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.92= 60 ft
12.32-----116.0-----auto-----hondarrr
12.36-----117.0-----auto-----kat mcrat
12.40-----116.4-----auto-----snzuloz---------1.94= 60 ft
12.49-----116.9-----auto-----co0lsly----------2.1= 60 ft
12.50-----?????------auto-----ready2roll
12.52-----114.8-----auto-----lawnstripes----2.06= 60 ft
12.53-----118.4-----auto-----tedboss1-------2.19= 60 ft
12.69-----111.0-----auto-----intervention302--- (ls1tech)

concorso
05-24-11, 11:38 AM
^^^ I feel bad for Jutskin. :)

laynrockers
05-24-11, 12:13 PM
Well this can mean only one thing. Let the mods begin !! And then from there it is all about keeping the tires planted

Racie
05-24-11, 12:29 PM
As I used to have a C6Z and now that I own a V, the Z would completely destroy you if both drivers are created equal. You talking abou a trap speed of over 6 mph between the two cars.

I agree but the V suits my needs better at this time but the Z is no punk at all.

gnxs
05-24-11, 12:32 PM
The only way this is a "driver's race" is if the driver of the Z06 is completely incompetent. I'm well aware of the "anything can happen on the street" situations, but an average Z06 driver should win this match-up 9 times out of 10. A good driver in the Z06 and he goes 10 for 10.

I've had several run-ins with C6 Z06's and I'm normally just a tick faster....all runs from various roll speeds, and I'm a good deal faster than a stock "V". The only chance a stock "V" has is from a dig (assuming he's an automatic) and runs a Z06 that completely botches the launch.

My $0.02.

Gary Wells
05-24-11, 02:28 PM
Not to take away from the fun you guys are having with this subject, but this board and the CorvetteForum has already hashed this out and it was the general consensus of most posters that a bone stock '09 & up CTS-V2 would be pretty much a driver match with a bone stock standard vette and maybe the Grand Sport, but not a C6 Z06. I think that I have heard that even a bone stock C5 Z06 would be a pretty even match with a bone stock V2, with the edge going to the C5 Z06. FWIW & IMHO.

elphil
05-24-11, 02:33 PM
People here don't street race do they? I'm sure this is all hypothetical.

gnxs
05-24-11, 03:01 PM
People here don't street race do they? I'm sure this is all hypothetical.That goes without saying. :cool:

Tuna
05-24-11, 03:20 PM
My V Wagon is strictly for hauling groceries, mountain bikes, hardware, grand kids and Open Road Runs. :histeric:

Vrocks
05-24-11, 03:42 PM
When I got the 9" pulley from Jesse, he said that I'd be very close to a Vette with 500HP - never got a chance to run with a Z06. I know once you're past 70 MPH weight doesn't matter in a drag race, aero does. The C6 Z06 has less drag than the V2, but I don't know if it's 56HP worth of drag (assuming it's a manual V2). The Z also has a mechanical advantage reving to around 7K vs 6.2K for the V2.

I will say that my brothers manual V2 feels stronger from a roll than my auto V2. We went for a ride a few days ago and he power shifted from 2 to 3 (said he was going to stop at the top of 2nd gear...) and my head/neck hit the seat pretty good. I've had a stiff neck for 2 days now.

whytediamond
05-24-11, 07:10 PM
I beat 2 c6 standard vettes that had a cam and full header back exhaust, intake and tune. Mine only had (at the time) a catback and partial CAI. Destroyed the one and got a good jump on the other one but then it started creeping back after 12-15 seconds on the high end (his auto, mine manual). After my upper pulley mod, it wasnt even close, pulled him by 3-4 car lenghts after only 4-5 seconds. With our cars modded, I think bring on the Z06....stock for stock gotta say Z06 by a narrow margin.

JimmyH
05-24-11, 09:27 PM
:bighead:

Prof
05-24-11, 10:56 PM
People here don't street race do they? I'm sure this is all hypothetical.

I am a recovering street racer...not cured yet, but trying very hard to be good.

To help with the recovery, my truck has a sign in the drivers side window:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rfouts/1SRT%2010/002-1.jpg

JimmyH
05-25-11, 02:33 PM
My stepdad does accident reconstruction. I have seen some pictures that stay in my head, coming right back to the surface every time some idiot lines up next to me at a stop light. Dying in a collision only takes a fraction of a second.

Hawkeye2
05-25-11, 04:33 PM
I currently have both cars. Both stick shifts. No question, not even that
close the Vette will win hands down.

They are way different animals. Built for different purposes. Both great cars,
but different.

mannyz
05-25-11, 05:19 PM
You know, most cars out there feel faster that the V at whatever given speed when they actually aren't. Sometimes when I hit triple digits people think were doing 80-90ish because its so smooth. Can be misleading. And then you have your ricer who's going 50 but feels like 100.

Domsz06
05-25-11, 05:25 PM
I currently have both cars. Both stick shifts. No question, not even that
close the Vette will win hands down.

They are way different animals. Built for different purposes. Both great cars,
but different.

I have them both as well, yes the z feels faster, but when it comes down to the street it's a drivers race. we can argue it till we are blue in the face, but it has been argued all the time.

Yes the z should win, not arguing that, but a lot of the drivers of a z don't know how to feather the clutch, and if they don't do that, well the v will win every time...

but we can keep discussing if everyone wants to :)

serturbo
05-25-11, 05:29 PM
Pretty much comes down to one thing. Horsepower and torque means nothing if you can't put it to the ground.