: Anyone need a Stud Kit?



00 Deville
05-07-11, 05:46 PM
If anyone could use a Northstar Performance stud kit for a 00-05 N* send me a PM and we can discuss the details. I no longer have any use for the kit after I decided to pull the plug on HG project due to a cracked block.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3462/studkit.jpg

ThumperPup
05-07-11, 06:01 PM
yo man sorry to hear about the cracked block you sure you don't want to do it what our your plans part out or keep her for other 2 ?

looks as if you added an 04 to the line up did you just get her ?

00 Deville
05-07-11, 06:48 PM
When I was searching for a replacement engine I ran across an 04 Deville that was too good of a deal to pass up. 86K on the clock for $5,000 so after a through inspection and many WOT's and a block test I decided to cut my losses on the 2000 and pull the trigger on the 2004. The 2000 is sitting in my driveway until I decide what to do with her. She only has 89K on the clock and a perfect body... rust free southern car.... had her since she had 2,900 miles on her. It's a joke what the recyclers will give you for one so I'll either hold onto her for parts or find someone that wants to drop a new engine in her. Below is a pic of the 2000 she's riding a little high in the front because half the engine is in the trunk.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4601/img3851j.jpg

The crack that killed her...
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7321/img3852ev.jpg

ThumperPup
05-07-11, 07:42 PM
yeah i know how much the salvage yard will give you
im betting that they offered you 450 - 500 ?
if the engine was good they probalby would have bumped it to 550 or 600 LOL

so are they all base models or DHS i am asuming from the hood ornament and grill that the 2000 is either base or DHS no way DTS unless you changed a few things

00 Deville
05-07-11, 07:50 PM
They are all base models.... the yard offered me $650 sight unseen over the phone. It's worth more than that in parts... I had a machine shop go over the heads before I knew of the crack.

ThumperPup
05-07-11, 07:56 PM
yeah they would make that back on the transmision alone
then they would probalby make another 6 x's that on the body parts alone shoot when i was looking for a hood they wanted 400 for a great one lol
doors they make you know 300 a peace of of in great shape from southern cars then the interior is a hole other story you knwo they would have made about 5000-7000 atleast on those parts

00 Deville
05-07-11, 08:02 PM
A friend of mine that works as an adjuster for an insurance company once told me that the recyclers typically base the price they will pay for a car on what they can sell the one most expensive part of a car for and the rest is all gravy.

ThumperPup
05-07-11, 08:08 PM
that sounds about right

i was looking at this one hood it was in great shape not a spot on it they wanted 400 for it
from a 03 seville

if that was the most exspensive thing they could get for the car wich is wasnt then i can only imagine what els they could get for all the other parts lol

decided against it i found a shop that friend recomended they said with the color match they would gurantee with a 3 stage paint job
375 plus taxes so im doing that

maeng9981
05-08-11, 01:49 AM
Great looking Deville, I'd be interested if you were in Texas. How did that crack even happen???

mhamilton
05-08-11, 08:44 AM
That's a shame, sorry to hear that... but glad you found a newer car to replace it!

Do you think that crack is the reason you had the sudden overheat/gasket failure?

00 Deville
05-08-11, 10:35 AM
Great looking Deville, I'd be interested if you were in Texas. How did that crack even happen???


That's a shame, sorry to hear that... but glad you found a newer car to replace it!

Do you think that crack is the reason you had the sudden overheat/gasket failure?

It's hard say how or when exactly the crack happened... so I'd rather not speculate on something that I'm not 100% certain on. It extends from the top to the bottom of the hole into the water jacket. In my search for a "new" engine with an unknown history to put in the car I ran across the 04 that was priced too well to pass up that's when the project that turned south took a new direction. I'm liking the 04 so far... haven't found any major issues... just a few minor ones that I'm addressing to bring the car up to my standards. I've been told I'm quite anal... LOL

97EldoCoupe
05-08-11, 11:07 AM
If you can wait approx. 1-2 weeks I can offer a full refund less $50 for my shipping costs- $499 refunded- if you can mail it to

Northstar Performance
P.O. Box 2755
Altona, MB
R0G 0B0

Cash is a bit tight right now but after a couple vehicles are back in their owners hands I can do this. I know it's worthless having a stud kit laying around with no car to install it into. I want to be fair to people so if this refund would be ok, go ahead and send it on back.

I have never seen a block crack like that. Any ideas? The studs are still packaged so it didn't happen during installation right?

00 Deville
05-08-11, 11:20 AM
If you can wait approx. 1-2 weeks I can offer a full refund less $50 for my shipping costs- $499 refunded- if you can mail it to

Northstar Performance
P.O. Box 2755
Altona, MB
R0G 0B0

Cash is a bit tight right now but after a couple vehicles are back in their owners hands I can do this. I know it's worthless having a stud kit laying around with no car to install it into. I want to be fair to people so if this refund would be ok, go ahead and send it on back.

I have never seen a block crack like that. Any ideas? The studs are still packaged so it didn't happen during installation right?

I'll take you up on that Jake if I can't find another CF member that needs a 00+ stud kit in the next couple of weeks. That way you won't have to deal with the refund and I won't have to deal with customs. So if any CF board member in the US needs a kit I'll let you have it for $499 with free UPS ground shipping.

ternstes
05-08-11, 04:10 PM
I just might be interested! I have a 2000 sts waiting in the wings after I finish my friend's 97 sts.

00 Deville
05-08-11, 05:48 PM
I just might be interested! I have a 2000 sts waiting in the wings after I finish my friend's 97 sts.

I sent you a PM with my contact info if you decide you could use it.

00 Deville
05-08-11, 08:56 PM
I just might be interested! I have a 2000 sts waiting in the wings after I finish my friend's 97 sts.

Your inbox is full so I can't respond to your PM

ternstes
05-09-11, 06:12 AM
sorry about that, it is clear now.

IveGotACaddyToo
05-09-11, 12:56 PM
Hi if he doesn't buy it I am definitely interested.

edit: looks like since I am new here I can't PM. I just bought an 01 Deville DTS with blown head gasket / oil leaks, so I just joined the forum. I can paypal $500, one request -- USPS priority mail is much faster and flat rate box is only ~$10, or small flat box / env even cheaper $5 if it fits.

00 Deville
05-09-11, 04:06 PM
Hi if he doesn't buy it I am definitely interested.

edit: looks like since I am new here I can't PM. I just bought an 01 Deville DTS with blown head gasket / oil leaks, so I just joined the forum. I can paypal $500, one request -- USPS priority mail is much faster and flat rate box is only ~$10, or small flat box / env even cheaper $5 if it fits.


You have to have 10 posts before you can PM. Can you post your email so I can contact you.

00 Deville
05-09-11, 04:29 PM
I just might be interested! I have a 2000 sts waiting in the wings after I finish my friend's 97 sts.

I was looking at Jake's website and noticed that you can get just the studs, washers, and nuts for $335 since you already have the jig and tooling from the 97 stud job your doing now this might be a cheaper way to go. I would check with Jake to make sure the Jig is the same though.

IveGotACaddyToo
05-09-11, 11:01 PM
Sure you can contact me at <email removed>

00 Deville
05-09-11, 11:17 PM
You have mail.

johnny kannapo
05-10-11, 09:56 PM
Where is the location of that cracked thread hole? A mount bracket?

There are motors out there. I saw a light crash Deville that may have been that year I'll try to find it.

maeng9981
05-10-11, 11:08 PM
It looks like it's one of the drilled&tapped stud holes.

00 Deville
05-11-11, 08:25 AM
Yes, it is a hole for one of the head bolts. The crack extends to the bottom of the hole and into the waterjacket.

00 Deville
05-11-11, 04:25 PM
Hi if he doesn't buy it I am definitely interested.
edit: looks like since I am new here I can't PM. I just bought an 01 Deville DTS with blown head gasket / oil leaks, so I just joined the forum.

Duke, I shipped out your Stud Kit today and emailed you the tracking info. The delivery estimate is Friday. Good luck with your Head Gasket job on your 2001 DTS and keep us posted on how it all works out.

IveGotACaddyToo
05-11-11, 08:11 PM
I will definitely let you know how it goes once it's done, but it will take at least 2 weeks for the machine shop to do the rebuild though. Most people say you can just reseal up the motor and it's good to go, but I see quite a bit of blowby at 134K miles, so I figure while the motor's already out I might as well do the whole job. Thanks Marty!

MRneatfreak-
05-13-11, 03:19 PM
Wow, that is no fun. I am suspecting that you found it through a visual inspection or some other way? Why can't the crack be stitched. Somebody sent a link a little while ago about the entire aluminum stitching process, and it looked really promising. They drill the crack, drive an appropriately sized aluminum slug inside with some kind screwing action and then grind off the top, and smooth the top with an air needler.

ThumperPup
05-13-11, 07:56 PM
i found 2 shops that where willing to try and repair my block
they said there was a 9 out of 10 chance in there experinece when they go to weld the block it will spider out even larger
so repairing a block is not always the greatest idea
unless its at the bottom and it could possibly be done without having to take the engine and see if it does work but they said if the engine has to come out its not worth it better to get a used block if a new one can't be found

IveGotACaddyToo
07-20-11, 08:11 PM
Marty, my machine shop says these studs are bent at where the threads go into the block. Have they ever been used before?

00 Deville
07-23-11, 04:21 PM
Marty, my machine shop says these studs are bent at where the threads go into the block. Have they ever been used before?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you I've been on vacation this week. The studs are new and unused... a couple of holes had been drilled and tapped before the crack in the block was discovered. Below is a picture of the kit as it was shipped to you over 2 months ago. In the email you sent me you said... "my machine shop says that most of the studs more or less are bent at where the threads go into the block." I don't see how most of the studs could be bent? Did the machine shop possibly not drill the block straight and are blaming the studs? If this is this case this is addressed in the installation instructions. I would contact Jake for advice on how to proceed.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3462/studkit.jpg

maeng9981
07-24-11, 12:39 PM
It is possible to have one or more studs that are mis-aligned after installation. This is mentioned in the installer's manual. I had one stud that was slightly out of alignment. This was preventing the new gaskets to slip in but I put a little and gentle force with hand on that stud to slip in the gasket. Used rubber mallet gently on the 4 corners to put the head in.