: Just bought a 2006 Cadillac CTS!



93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 04:13 AM
Well, guys, as some of you know, I've been seriously considering a new-to-me car for at least a year now. Those of you who I talk to on Facebook or the phone have probably heard me mention that I was getting tired of continously repairing the Deville and using it as a daily driver, given its age, mileage, and need of significant body, interior, and mechanical work. After five years of owning a Cadillac, though, all I could have next was, of course, another Cadillac. While I love the Devilles, I've had two of them so far. I love what Cadillac does with the a large, spacious, soft-riding front-drive V-8 platform, but I wanted to try owning and driving Cadillac's interpretation of a light, nimble, rear-drive sport sedan. I also had to have something affordable, dependable, fuel-efficient, and able to have decent trade-in value after I finished paying for it. The one Cadillac that fit the bill for me was the 2004-2007 CTS.

I went looking for a CTS two months ago. Most of the ones in Atlanta tend to be owned by either Cadillac dealers or "buy here, pay here" lots, both of which tend to be shady and offer under-equipped models for too high a price. One guy even told me he wouldn't show me the Carfax report until I had already bought the car! :tisk: Yet another thought that I was going to give him $19,000 over five years for a 2004 CTS with 93,000 miles! :bigroll:

On Wednesday, I was on my way home from what I thought was yet another failed CTS search when I saw a nice one sitting in a small dealer's lot. I pulled in, got the number, and called the guy. The car was a 2006 CTS with 72k miles, the sunroof, and Driver Shift Control, asking price $14,900.

The next day, I went and talked to the seller, and eventually got his asking price down to $13,300. I called my insurance agency, got a quote, and made my decision. I went back today, had a mechanic diagnose and replace two broken radiator hose clamps at no cost to me, and went back to buy the car for $14,249 after tax and title.

Anyway, enough of the storytelling, here's the car...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006CTS.jpg

She is a 2006 CTS, Stealth Gray, Ebony leather interior, with Driver Shift Control, the sunroof, and wood trim on the steering wheel, center console, shifter knob, and door handles. More pictures and a decoded VIN printout are coming up!

(If you guys can't allready tell, I'm just freaking giddy over this car. It hasn't quite hit me yet that I own a 2006 CTS!!)

ga_etc
04-24-11, 04:17 AM
You suck.






That is all.

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 04:36 AM
;-).

Stingroo
04-24-11, 06:27 AM
Welcome to the RWD side of things.


:)

Playdrv4me
04-24-11, 07:01 AM
Eggcellent!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-24-11, 08:59 AM
That's cool! Glad it worked out for you after your long & exhaustive search. 2.8 or 3.6?

gary88
04-24-11, 11:44 AM
Congrats!

hueterm
04-24-11, 12:45 PM
Congrats, Josiah -- looks nice!

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 01:27 PM
Ray: Thanks for the welcome, it's good to be here! Finally, I can take hard corners without the body rolling everywhere at 35MPH.

Chad: Thanks! It's a 3.6L, and man, it is sweet! You never hear the motor unless you're really putting your foot on the gas. Still, the engine on this thing hustles quickly just about anywhere in the powerband.

Gary, Mike, Ian: Wait until you see the pics:D

drewsdeville
04-24-11, 01:44 PM
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93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 01:51 PM
Here's a few pics. Nothing fancy.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1591.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1593.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1594.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1595.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1596.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1597.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1598.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1599.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1600.jpg

drewsdeville
04-24-11, 01:53 PM
Love the color on this one. The CTS is one of the few cars that I don't care for in black or red, and silver is all too common.

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 01:55 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1601.jpg

Flash left active here to show that yes, that IS a wood console! :D
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1602.jpg

Darker version of same shot.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1603.jpg

Sunroof!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1604.jpg

See the Driver's Shift Control? This is the feature that I most love about this car.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1592.jpg

Owner's Manual
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/2006%20Cadillac%20CTS/DSCN1605.jpg

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 01:58 PM
Post of the day, Drew.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-24-11, 02:09 PM
Josiah, make sure to change the oil with a good quality synthetic oil, and don't use the oil life monitor system. GM has been having lots of timing chain issues with the 3.6L V6, where the chains will stretch if a subquality oil is used for too long of a duration. Just use a Mobil 1 oil (or similar quality) and do the change every 5-6,000 miles.

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the tip. My Oil Life Readout currently shows 23%, so I'm taking it in on my next off day for an oil change. While I'm at it, I'll also have the differential fluid looked at. What's the recommended interval for changing the diff. fluid?

Speaking of the differential, it was rebuilt early on in the car's life and showed no leaks and made no whirring noises during my test drives. The car is at 72,000 miles no, so should I just go ahead and change the diff. fluid now just to be safe?

drewsdeville
04-24-11, 02:51 PM
Wouldn't hurt if you wanted to I guess. It's cheap and easy.

Usually it's good for quite a bit longer though, under normal driving conditions anyway. Most LSD's require a friction modifier, so when you pick up fluid, either make sure it matches the correct spec or you get the additive separately.

orconn
04-24-11, 03:31 PM
Good advice, Chad. You can get cases of Mobil 1 at Costco or (I quess) Sam's Club.

Great looking CTS, I agree with Drew on the color, looks great! Glad your in depth search paid off for you with this fine find.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-24-11, 03:49 PM
Yeah, flush out the differential as well. Most recommendations are 50,000 miles for cars like that, and 30,000 miles if you've got a truck and use it to tow a lot. Did they equip those with a limited slip differential or are they open?

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 05:04 PM
Thanks, Orconn!

Chad, I'm pretty sure I have a limited-slip differential, but I'm not 100% certain. I'll get back to you when I find out.

93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 05:05 PM
Here's the decoded VIN. What are packages 1SB and 1SZ?

Vehicle: CTS HFV6 4 DR
Year: 2006
Build Date: 2005-08-19

Found 35,467 vehicles matching your year and model in our database.

RPO Description Matches
UE1 COMMUNICATION SYSTEM VEHICLE, G.P.S. 1 GPS 1 VEH COMM SYS(UE1)
34,732
U2K DIGITAL AUDIO SYSTEM S-BAND DIGITAL S-BAND AUDIO SYS(U2K)
33,217
U2R AVEC SYSTEM AM/FM RADIO, CASS, CD, RDS AVEC,RADIO,CASS,CD(U2R)
23,737
U30 CLUSTER INST, TACH, CLOCK CLUSTER(U30)
35,467
U66 SPEAKER SYSTEM,7,CUSTOM 7 SPKR SYS(U66)
23,737
V4W MODEL CONVERSION GMX320, CTS HFV6 CTS HFV6(V4W)
35,467
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)
34,732
1SB PACKAGE-OPTION 02 (1SB)
SALES PACKAGE SALES PKG(1SB)
34,790
1SZ PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ)
32,812
19I INTERIOR TRIM COLOR (19I)
INTERIOR TRIM,BLACK (19I)
INTERIOR TRIM,EBONY (19I)
10,452
194 TRIM COMBINATION,BLACK LEATHER (194)
10,451
46U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (46U)
PRIMARY COLOR EXTERIOR, STEALTH GRAY MET (04) (46U)
1,797
6MR COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (6MR) SUSP(6MR)
24,096
7MR COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (7MR) SUSP(7MR)
24,096
8FW COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8FW) SUSP(8FW)
26,016
9FW COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9FW) SUSP(9FW)
26,016
AQ9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,RECLINING RECL FRT BKT ST,LUXURY(AQ9)
35,467
AY0 RESTRAINT SYSTEM SEAT, INFLATABLE, DRIVER & PASS, FRT SIDE, ROOF SIDE DRVR & PASS FRT SIDE & ROOF INFLATABLE RESTRAINT(AY0)
35,467
B18 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR(DELUXE) DELUXE INTR(B18)
35,457
CF5 ROOF,SUN,GLASS SLIDING,ELECTRIC ELEC SUNROOF(GLASS)(CF5)
23,869
CJ2 HVAC SYSTEM AIR CONDITIONER FRT, AUTO TEMP CONT, AUX TEMP CONT A/C FRT AUTO/AUX CONT(CJ2)
35,467
DL5 DECAL ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION ROADSIDE SERVICE INFO DECAL(DL5)
32,871
DR5 MIRROR,O/S LH + RH,REM CTL ELEC,DUAL MAN FLDG,HEATED,COLOR O/S ELEC REM MIRROR W/HTR(DR5)
34,917
FE1 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,SOFT RIDE SOFT RIDE SUSP(FE1)
24,141
GU6 AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6)
35,068
IL4 TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN (L4) (IL4)
35,466
JJA PT DRESS SUBASSEMBLY INSTALLED (MODULAR OPTIMIZATION METHOD ONLY) PLANT OPERATION(JJA)
35,467
JL9 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC,ANTILOCK FRT & RR DISC ANTILOCK BRK(JL9)
31,556
KG9 GENERATOR,140 AMPERE 140 AMP(KG9)
35,467
LY7 ENGINE GAS, 6 CYL, 3.6L(220 CID), SFI, V6, ALUM, 60 DEGREES, GM 3.6-7(LY7)
35,467
MX0 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC,OVERDRIVE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) A/TRANS PROVISIONS(MX0)
35,068
M82 TRANSMISSION AUTO 5 SPD, HMD, 5L40-E, ELECTRONIC 5-SPD A/TRANS(M82)
35,068
NC7 EMISSION SYSTEM,UNLEADED FUEL(EXPORT) UNLEADED FUEL(EXPORT)(NC7)
2,479
NE1 CERTIFICATION EMISSION, GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICTED REGISTRATION FOR VEHICLES UP TO 14, 000 LBS GVW (USE 2 RESTRICTED REGISTRATION EMIS(NE1)
3,766
NU1 EMISSION SYSTEM CALIFORNIA, LEV2 CALIFORNIA LEV2 EMIS(NU1)
8,443
N30 STEERING WHEEL(DELUXE) DELUXE STRG WHL(N30)
35,457
PF4 WHEEL,16X7(ALUMINUM) AL WHL(PF4)
9,583
QWJ TIRE ALL P225/55R16-94H BW R/PE ST TL AL3 TIRE(QWJ)
24,114
R6M CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 13
1,924
R6P CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 15
32,849
R9N CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 89
32,871
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93DevilleUSMC
04-24-11, 09:52 PM
I just took it for a drive on some country roads using the Drivers Shift Control. Man, I CAN"T STOP SMILING ABOUT THIS CAR!!!!

Playdrv4me
04-24-11, 10:54 PM
Beautiful ride... Any wheel plans?

Jesda
04-25-11, 04:32 AM
Congratulations!!! A very nice color indeed.

77CDV
04-25-11, 01:53 PM
Very well bought, Josiah! Congratulations! :thumbsup:

chatsworth
04-25-11, 02:31 PM
Good lookin vehicle, sir. Congrats!


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93DevilleUSMC
04-25-11, 11:40 PM
Thanks, Gary, Jesda, Ian, and Chatsworth (real name, please?). Ian: I eventually want to find the factory polished wheels, but that's a low priority right now. main goal is a reliable daily driver that just happens to be rolling sex in a four-door form :D.

93DevilleUSMC
04-25-11, 11:53 PM
Well, guys, I sold the Deville to my sister, Joanna, for $500. I no longer drive it, but the Deville still soldiers on. It got me through five personally and financially rough years, and now I'm trusting it to keep my sister safe.

ben.gators
04-26-11, 12:05 AM
Nice car, congratulations, and a complete review would be wonderful! :D

93DevilleUSMC
04-27-11, 01:59 AM
I'll do a complete review this weekend, and maybe even give ya`'ll a few pictures after I give the car a thorough detailing.

Destroyer
04-28-11, 06:14 PM
Car looks good. Some bigger wheels (but not too blingy) and you are all set! :yup:

93DevilleUSMC
05-01-11, 03:53 PM
Speaking of bigger wheels, I'm thinking about getting a set of the factory polished aluminum (or are they chrome?) wheels. I'm also considering a light layer of window tint to match the exterior better and protect the leather from UV damage.

UPDATE: I just got the differential fluid and oil changed on Friday. I've got to get two new front tires, and I'll be set. Next up is a full exterior and interior detail, after which I'll post some more pictures.

93DevilleUSMC
05-01-11, 03:54 PM
Oh, to those who asked earlier, the differential IS a limited-slip unit.

93DevilleUSMC
05-02-11, 01:13 AM
Well, here's a quick review of the car after driving it a week. I'll do this by category.

Exterior: 10/10. The sharp, crisp, angular lines of the exterior are thoroughly modern, yet have all of the right traditional Cadillac cues, such as the raised front fenders, angular grille, raked roofline, and vertical taillamps. The vehicle is pleasing to look at from any angle, and resembles nothing else from the competition. It is purely American in its looks, and can be identified from any distance as a Cadillac. The paint color on my car, Stealth Gray Metallic, is almost a pleasant, warm blue in broad daylight. When night falls, however, and you see the car under the streetlights with the headlights ablaze, the paint takes on an almost gunmetal gray hue; not loud or flashy, but subtle, low, menacing, and aggressive. This is a sedan that says, "Get out of my way."

Interior: 8/10. The interior of the car is decked out in black leather, which Cadillac calls Ebony. Note that this is full leather, not a leatherette or any imitation substance. The seats are just the right mixture of firmness and comfort, with the driver and front passenger seat offering great side bolsters for hard cornering and aggressive driving. There is real wood (African Sappele?) on the steering wheel, dash, center console, shifter knob, and door handles. the wood is place in just the right spots and not excessively so, giving the cockpit a richness it would lack without these touches. While some have criticizes the brightwork in the interior as guady, I find it to be tasteful and well-placed. My only complaints with the interior are the somewhat small backseat, and the shifter knob which seems to rattle just a bit during hard acceleration or braking.

Handling: 10/10: The CTS is the kind of car that feels stable and balanced no matter what you are doing with it. During a pleasure drive today, i put the car through some tight and winding twenty-five MPH curves near my mother's house in Covington. Even at 50 MPH through these turns, the CTS never once felt like it was going to lose grip, nor did it so much as cross the centerline. Even with my two front tires nearly worn out, the CTS has a very firm grip on pavement.

Ride: 9/10. As I stated earlier, my two front tires are almost bald and need to be replaced. Even still, the ride remains very, very smooth while still keeping me aware of the road I'm on. The car suffers from a slight wobble of the steering wheel because of the tires; however the rest of the ride is smooth and direct. The car is a sedate cruiser that remains balanced and calm at all times, whether cruising slowly at night, slouched back and relaxed in your seat, or whether gunning it in Sport Mode through twists and turns or around stubbornly slow drivers.

Performance: 10/10. With a curb weight of 3,500lbs, the 255 horsepower and 252 foot-pounds of torque are more than enough to push the car as fast as you please. Channeled through a GM 5L40-E transmission with Driver Shift Control and Sport Mode, the CTS can shift smoothly and effortlessly during relaxed driving, or can hold ear gear all the way to the 6,400 RPM redline in Sport Mode for passing or competitive driving. Sport Mode is your best choice for hills or mountains or other situations when low-end power is needed, while normal driving mode is excellent for regualr driving.

Overal score: 9/10. Despite a few minor issues here and there, the 2006 Cadillac CTS is a sport sedan par excellance. To me, it is every bit the equal of it's Acura, BMW, Lexus, and Mercedes competion. The ones it can't beat, it rivals very, very closely. The fact that Cadillac is now surging back to life is largely due to everything that was done so well with the CTS. I think anyone who reads this will be able to tell, I love this car!

ga_etc
05-02-11, 01:59 AM
I wonder how the 1st gen compares to the 2nd gen as far as driving dynamics go.

ben.gators
05-02-11, 04:32 AM
Is the wood on steering wheal and center console factory? I believe it should be after market...

Jesda
05-02-11, 06:27 PM
I'm a big fan of the cts. BMW offers more refinement and the Infiniti G35 has more power, but the cts has more space and comfort. The interior has always been a weak spot for me but enough wood trim can make it livable. I do like the layout of the controls.

93DevilleUSMC
05-02-11, 10:25 PM
I wonder how the 1st gen compares to the 2nd gen as far as driving dynamics go.

The second generation CTS has very, very little difference in driving dynamics from the first. Keep in mind, that is based on my experience, but I'm sure people with more wheel time on both cars might have a slightly different opinion.

JimmyH
05-02-11, 11:24 PM
I went from an 06 to an 09, and I can tell you that there are alot of differences, and alot of similarities. There is no question, on a track, the 2nd gen will leave the 1st gen in its wake. However, I don't know, there is something about the 2nd gen that seems a little more sterile than the first. Same as the 1st to 2nd gen Infiniti G. Probably the same as the current 3 series. Just too refined. There is some unknown missing. I thought the 06 was significantly more fun to drive. And a MUCH more comfortable driving position. I tried, really. I could not find a comfort zone in the 09. I was constantly shifting in my seat.

Why haven't I seen you in the CTS forum? There are a few guys in there who really know their stuff if you run into problems. Great color btw. My V was stealth gray, and it really pops.

JimmyH
05-02-11, 11:27 PM
also, are you sure about the LSD? To my knowledge, the LSD only came with the wheel performance packages. It looks like you have 16" wheels. Not that it's really needed. Unless you are doing serious track days, the standard open diff works fine in this car. And there isn't enough power to need it off the line. Even with the LSD, the only way I could smoke them was doing a full brake stall.

93DevilleUSMC
05-02-11, 11:35 PM
To me, the 1st Gen CTS seems more pure of from than the 2nd Gen, but the 2nd Gen has much more fleshed out flank curvatures and sharper character lines. The 2nd Gen wins hands down in interior design. Now, why does the 2nd Gen beat the 1st Gen on the track?

Check the CTS Forums about three minutes after I post this. I'll have a thread up for you.

93DevilleUSMC
05-02-11, 11:38 PM
On the LSD, yes, I'm sure. I had the mechanic who serviced it Friday give me a definitive answer.

JimmyH
05-02-11, 11:43 PM
2nd gen has a much better chassis. It's better tuned from the beginning. The suspension is superior, as is the drivetrain. Steering (even in my CTS4, which is kind of numb compared to RWD) has better response, and you can feel everything much more clearly. 1st gen, there was always that, admittedly small, but still there uncertainty. You weren't (at least I was wasn't) 100% sure when she was going to let go. In thinking about it, that small degree of uncertainty is probably what made the 1st gen more fun to drive.

Let me put it this way, on a road course, I would want a 2nd gen. Night on the town with some friends, 2nd gen. Out for a spirited drive, I would want a 1st gen. Commuting, 1st gen. Just about everything else, 1st gen.

93DevilleUSMC
05-03-11, 12:00 AM
Hmm. You know, the 2nd-gen CTS may well be the car I buy after this one.

Jesda
05-03-11, 03:26 AM
I agree with you on the 2nd-gen CTS, Jimmy. It needed more spice. Tony says the FE3 package makes all the difference. My rental '09 certainly didn't have it.

JimmyH
05-03-11, 09:50 AM
I don't know, I thought the car handled great. The FE3 would just give it more stiffness and bounding. I think my biggest problem was I bought the CTS4. AWD is for sissies. I was a sissy. Steering wheels on any sporting machine should not have driveshafts attached. I think had I actually found a CTS2 with three pedals, I would still be driving it.

concorso
05-03-11, 02:48 PM
Oh, to those who asked earlier, the differential IS a limited-slip unit.You may have the limited slip, but it didnt come that way from the factory. What do your service records say, do they mention a diff replacement? Your build sheets says you have the open diff.

concorso
05-03-11, 02:51 PM
Is the wood on steering wheal and center console factory? I believe it should be after market...Noperz! Stock.

concorso
05-03-11, 03:10 PM
2nd gen has a much better chassis. It's better tuned from the beginning. The suspension is superior, as is the drivetrain. Steering (even in my CTS4, which is kind of numb compared to RWD) has better response, and you can feel everything much more clearly. 1st gen, there was always that, admittedly small, but still there uncertainty. You weren't (at least I was wasn't) 100% sure when she was going to let go. In thinking about it, that small degree of uncertainty is probably what made the 1st gen more fun to drive.

Let me put it this way, on a road course, I would want a 2nd gen. Night on the town with some friends, 2nd gen. Out for a spirited drive, I would want a 1st gen. Commuting, 1st gen. Just about everything else, 1st gen.I agree with this almost word for word. The 1st gen carries less weight, its one of the reasons its more 'fun'... The 2nd gen improved in almost every way. I car-sat a 09 3.6L DI for almost 2 months last year, and was given full allowance to push it. Its more stable over rough surfaces, especially turning. The steering is more direct and has more feel. The 3.6L DI has the extra power and the trans tuning is massively improved. I did find some downsides, tho. The interior is too busy, and IMO, barely improved on materials. The design is arguably nicer, but I still had a tonne of creaks and rattles. Simply did not like the base seats, either. The leather is flimsier, and there is less lateral support. With the attention to details, tho, you can ignore most of that. The lighting inside and out is a major improvement. Its just more of a complete package.
For me, tho, the extra weight really hurt it. Around an auto-x course (the only I have available close) the 1st gen was much more fun and tossable. Even with less power It was easier to get better times. I do have modifications to my 1st gen, tho, so it wasnt really a legitmate comparison in that sense.

JimmyH
05-03-11, 07:54 PM
You may have the limited slip, but it didnt come that way from the factory. What do your service records say, do they mention a diff replacement? Your build sheets says you have the open diff.

ha, I was wondering when you would come into this discussion. That is what I was thinking. Though it does look like he has the bigger brakes, which would be indicative of LSD, no? As for the wheels, it's entirely possible the previous owner, or even a dealer swapped them. It does happen sometimes where a dealer will swap wheels to make a sale, and this car could have gotten the short end of the stick.

Either way, LSD is not critical on this car.

GizmoQ
05-06-11, 12:01 AM
Great looking car, Josiah. Enjoy!

orconn
05-06-11, 12:17 AM
Josiah, I have the polished alloy wheels fro the first generation CTS on my '95 Seville STS and believe it or not they look great adding just the right amount of update and a rich gleam without the garishness of chrome plated wheels. So far, seven years, they have really stood up wheel, although they have not been subject to salted road conditions.

Destroyer
05-06-11, 12:49 AM
To me, the 1st Gen CTS seems more pure of from than the 2nd GenWhat does that mean? The 2nd gen looks better but that is coming from a casual observer and not as an enthusiast of either. Only CTS for me is a "V", the others are just "there".

93DevilleUSMC
05-07-11, 07:27 PM
You may have the limited slip, but it didnt come that way from the factory. What do your service records say, do they mention a diff replacement? Your build sheets says you have the open diff.

Yeah, the Carfax report mentions that the differential was replaced. Did GM usually replaced the open diffs with limited-slip ones, or was the mechanic wrong about mine being limited slip?

93DevilleUSMC
05-07-11, 07:29 PM
What does that mean? The 2nd gen looks better but that is coming from a casual observer and not as an enthusiast of either. Only CTS for me is a "V", the others are just "there".

I meant that the 1st gen CTS looks to me to be a little more lean, which it is. And I second that about the V: I definitely want one someday.

JimmyH
05-07-11, 09:32 PM
You would be hard pressed to beat the performance/luxury value of the V1.

hueterm
05-07-11, 09:49 PM
Agreed...I'd get one over the last gen Vette...

Of course, I'd have to learn to drive a stick...

JimmyH
05-08-11, 10:48 AM
Come up to Chicago, I'll teach you. The V clutch is easier than most. Lighter action too. You just have to get used to the vague shifter.

93DevilleUSMC
05-08-11, 04:14 PM
You would be hard pressed to beat the performance/luxury value of the V1.

Well, I've got five years to pay the CTS off, and I'm going to try to pay it in three. We'll just see where I am in that time.

JimmyH
05-08-11, 06:39 PM
By then V2s should be in $30k's.

93DevilleUSMC
05-08-11, 07:50 PM
Hmm. Again, I'll see where I am in three years, but I'll probably be trying to stay under $20K.