: 1988 Brougham - How do I increase Performance + MPG?



Fat Caddy
04-20-11, 02:59 AM
I'm looking for advice on any mods I can make to my 1988 Brougham with the 5.0 (Olds 307) that will help with performance and increase my MPG. For example, first thing I did was employ an 80's style cold air intake. For those that weren't around that means I flipped the air cleaner lid to expose the air filter to about an inch of sunlight. Much better performance, especially on hills, but didn't really change my MPG.

I've read the posts on removing the smog pump. On mine it has it's own belt so I could just remove the belt. But most of the threads suggest that this does practically nothing for HP or mpg.

I consider my carb perfect b/c the car starts right up cold or warm by simply following the owners manual. The car is a great cruiser. I just want to maximize the full potential of the small V-8 to achieve better MPG.

All emissions baloney aside, does removing, gutting out, or running a straight pipe right through the CAT help?

All creative or useful suggestions considered. ;-)

intragration
04-20-11, 03:55 AM
Exhaust is your best bet to get improved performance and economy. Of course, if you make a habit of enjoying your newfound performance, you're not going to see much in the way of economy. Headers, true-duals with a crossover, and no cats is what I would do. I'm fairly certain that the headers are the same for the 307, 403, and possibly others. As for cats, I'm sure I will make enemies with the greenies, but yes, they do cause a noticeable amount of restriction. I have done back-to-back comparisons on many cars, and every time I've noticed a big gain. Of course, it's illegal to do this, so don't ever do it. :histeric:

Aron9000
04-20-11, 06:00 AM
Best bet to SIGNIFICANTLY increase MPG AND PERFORMANCE is to swap in a modern fuel injected engine. A 5.3 V8 from a 99-2006 GM truck or SUV is stupid cheap(like less than $1000 for a used engine/trans) and delivers great performance.

An LS1 v8 out of a 98-2002 fbody will straight up roast the the tires off that old boat, it'll run low 14's or maybe a 13 second et with the right setup and give you like 16-18mpg city, 23-25mpg highway minimum. If I were a man of unlimited means, an aluminum block LS1 or LS2 would be under the hood of my Caddy, backed up by a stalled 4l80e heavy duty trans. My shit would be huffing nitrous, sound stock, have stock street manners and be running a 12.5 et or better.


If you plan to keep that old 307, I'd just keep it stock and be done with it. If it runs great, just keep it as is. Maybe something like a Magnaflow muffler might be a good mod, it will still be quiet but flow a lot better than the stocker.

sven914
04-20-11, 11:01 AM
You probably have the standard 307 (VIN Y)-140 HP.

If you do not want to spend bookoos of money in a new drive-line, then you can upgrade you engine to a VIN 9 307 (180 HP). To do this upgrade, you will need to upgrade the carburettor with richer secondaries and probably swap the heads with an earlier version that have better flow.

Go to performanceolds307.com (http://performanceolds307.tripod.com/index.html) for more information on increasing the power of your 307 and converting it to a VIN 9.

RocketFast321
04-20-11, 08:34 PM
Pretty much nothing, a good tune-up. A new exhaust system will help, cut the cat and two mufflers off. And something like a single magnaflow.

cadillac kevin
04-20-11, 09:23 PM
in short- you can't really do both. either performance or MPG, not both. stock tune + big air filter (I have a fram filter for a chevy 350 tbi) + hollowed cat + free flowing muffler is best bet for bang to the buck performance/mpg combo. Vin 9s get similar/ worse mpg and only give you 40-50 more hp.
also, keep your gas tank above 1/2 mine sucked gas once it got below half tank.
the best I've ever heard of someone getting out of a 307 is 18 mpg combined.
the best I ever got per tank (21 gallons) was 350 miles. I think thats about 16 mpg.

csbuckn
04-21-11, 12:27 AM
Pretty much nothing, a good tune-up. A new exhaust system will help, cut the cat and two mufflers off. And something like a single magnaflow.

I'm with Rocket. A bunch of mods will get you maybe 180hp. Just get a decent intake and exhaust and call it a day. You cant get much without swapping the top half or changing the motor.

cadillac kevin
04-21-11, 12:46 AM
I'd like to see 180 hp out of a 7A headed 307 w/o opening up the motor. the heads and intake suck. period.


if you have the 6A or 7A heads (like all fwb's), swapping to 5A heads and A4 (403 intake) will help performance and mileage. you'll need to change the cam also. then you have to wonder "is it really worth it". I thought about rebuilding my 307, but its cheaper to put in a mild carbed 350 chevy than to mess with the crappy 307.

Fat Caddy
04-21-11, 01:39 AM
Thank you for the good and practical advice. It sounds like the dismal performance of the 307 only lends itself to being a cruiser, which is fine. I definitely agree on cat elimination and a more free flowing muffler, if not converting it to duals for not alot of cash.

I put a fuel filter in today. Big Help! Going to do plugs and wires this weekend. Money wise, I can't see investing in different, heads, intake, cam, etc. for very little gain in performance.

From what I've been reading swapping out the rear gears for 3:42's gains both power and mpg, which makes sense for me. The motor won't have to struggle so hard to pull the car up all of the hills where I live. Otherwise it is what it is, a big, fat, cozy cruiser.

My dream engine? A roots blown 502. So much for mpg, but the fun factor would be really high!

RocketFast321
04-21-11, 03:48 PM
Thank you for the good and practical advice. It sounds like the dismal performance of the 307 only lends itself to being a cruiser, which is fine. I definitely agree on cat elimination and a more free flowing muffler, if not converting it to duals for not alot of cash.


The thing about true duels it might throw the O2 off. The driver side runs into the pass. side manifold below the o2.

My dream motor is just a fuel injected 307 or olds 350. Using an old TBI setup from a chevy truck.

drmenard
04-21-11, 06:02 PM
I think Arron9000 said it right.. agree with him100%

sven914
04-21-11, 06:25 PM
The thing about true duels it might throw the O2 off. The driver side runs into the pass. side manifold below the o2.

My dream motor is just a fuel injected 307 or olds 350. Using an old TBI setup from a chevy truck.

Being that the cross over comes in after the O2, it should not effect the reading.

When you start the engine cold, the driver's side manifold is blocked off before the crossover and the exhaust is circulated under the intake to help heat the carburettor. The computer stats looking at the O2 for fuel metering before that exhaust valve opens (before the exhaust is redirected out the crossover pipe), so eliminating the cross over shouldn't effect anything.

tbcaddy18
04-22-11, 11:13 AM
When I was driving my 307 on a regular basis to work (25 miles each way), I was averaging inbetween 19-19.5mpg on a couple occasions. That was with an average speed of 55mph on cruise control with a few street lights inbetween. (my 307 is a stock setup).

I read someone recommended to put in a magnaflow exhaust for less restriction. Is that just the muffler you all are saying to change out?..or a Cat-Back setup?

intragration
04-22-11, 03:24 PM
From what I've been reading swapping out the rear gears for 3:42's gains both power and mpg

I don't see how it's possible that this would improve your mileage, unless ALL you EVER did was accelerate uphill. 3.42s will cause the engine to spin faster at all vehicle speeds, which would be great for at least the "feel" of performance, but would definitely lower your MPG.

brougham
04-23-11, 01:28 PM
The easiest and cheapest thing to do is rebuild the carberator to make sure everything is working perfectly with it. Do a tune up, replace the oxygen sensor if it's never been done. Consider a performance distributor.
Increasing performance and MPG don't go together, the best you can do is make sure everything that's already there works the way it should.

GeneLaw1
04-25-11, 01:07 AM
I use Platinum AC Delco spark plugs, and all AC Delco parts on mine. I also got a dual exhaust with a Borla Muffler setup on there and the catalytic converter was removed. These helped pretty good. I bought a tornado fuel saver a few years back, it doesnt help much with city, but on the highway I notice a difference.

Also, dont overlook your driving habits, because horrible gas mileage can come from a heavy foot etc...O and I have been told getting a 2 barrel carb might help, I have not tried this though so I cannot speak on it.

cheers,

gillianwhittaker@xtr
04-25-11, 06:01 AM
check this article out
mike

First off, it depends on what version of the 307 you have. It comes in several flavors.


VIN Y. About 140hp and 235ft-lbs (depends upon year and where you get your info). Unless you have an H/O or 442, you have this engine.
VIN 9. About 180hp and 245ft-lbs (again, stats vary). Only available on the '83-'84 Hurst/Olds and '85-'87 442. I've heard rumors that a few Caddilacs had these too.

Now, to thoroughly confuse you, Olds made two different version of each of these engines. Up through Mid-85, 307's had normal 5A cylinder heads and normal hydraulic flat-tappet lifters. In Mid-85, GM changed over to a 307 with 7A cylinder heads and a hydraulic roller-lifter drivetrain. The 5A heads seemed to appear for a while after '85 in the VIN 9 engine, but there are 7A headded VIN 9 engines too. To see which version you have, look for the number on the front of each cylinder head. Follow the negative battery cable to where it attaches to the head, right next to it you'll see the raised number and letter.
The 5A head engine is preferred for performance use because it has "normal" sized ports in the intake and cylinder heads. 7A head engines have tiny ports in the intake and heads (and exhaust ports too, but the manifolds are the same) designed to work in conjunction with the roller lifters. This is why an Edelbrock performer intake will not fit 7A head engines. (Actually it will physically FIT, but there would be an awful port mismatch causing reversion and you would be very unhappy).

Now, on to the modifications! First off, let me state the goal and make sure you don't have any unrealistic expectations. Unless you throw thousands and thousands of dollars at a 307, you will not be able to go out and eat Z-28 Camaros for breakfast and stock Big Blocks for lunch. If your goal is that kind of power level, your money is best spent on a larger engine. Call it what you want, "Return on investment", "Bang for the buck", "HP per $$", etc. But swapping in an Olds 350, 403, 425 or 455 would get you where you want to go most efficiently. The 350 and 403 are the same block externally, so all accessories will bolt up, the computer will work (if you keep the cam mild), and nobody will be able to tell the difference unless they check the numbers. A 425 or 455 Big Block will fit right in, but is a bit more of a project and won't be covered here.

The goal here is to have a reliable and streetable car, that's a pleasure to drive in traffic, meets emissions, and keeps the stock computer while delivering as much power as possible while keeping all the creature comforts (A/C, heater, cruise, etc) without crossing that dollar and effort line where you could have just as well put in the 350 or 403. Ride and handling will be addressed also, where obtainable on a budget.


Step One, get it running right!
Before you start with any mods, you need a smooth running baseline engine to start from. You may be able to do some of these at the same time as other modifications (such as putting in the new thermostat while you have the engine drained to flush it).

Dump any error codes stored in the computer and fix any problems indicated (this may be nothing, or it may be a big task, depends on how well your car has survived the test of time).
Change the oil if it's due, and the filter too. I use Mobil-1 10w30 and AC PF-24 filters (they're a bit larger than the stock filter). I'll put in one or two quarts of Mobil-1 15w50 during hot weather.
Replace the air filter, fuel filter, crankcase filter, and PCV valve.
Check the belts and hoses. If they look marginal, replace them.
Flush the cooling system and fill with a 50-50 mix of quality antifreeze/distilled water. If you're in a climate where it never freezes, you can use 30% antifreeze.
Change the tranny fluid and filter. This is a messy job and I find it worth the money to let a professional do it. If you do it yourself, it may be a good idea to put in a drain plug when you have the tranny pan off.
Change the differential fluid, or at least check the level. This doesn't need to be changed more than maybe every 50k miles, and if you do change it (or have it changed with your tranny fluid), switch to a synthetic lubricant.
New distributor cap and rotor (use the kind with the brass terminals, they last much longer than the aluminum ones).
New plugs and wires. I've had best luck with stock AC plugs. AC just discontinued the R46-SX plug so if you can't find any, you may have to use another brand. I hear that the R46-SZ is the exact same plug, but pre-gapped at 0.060, worth checking out! My second choice is NGK. Gap them at 0.060 rather than the stock 0.080 (too much!). I prefer the "universal" wire kits that you cut to length yourself, since the precut ones are always too long or too short and look terrible.
Set the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) to stock values.
Set the timing to stock (20 degrees on every 307 I've seen).
Set the idle mixture using a dwell meter (if it's idling good, you can skip this step).
If you have an overdrive tranny (TH-200-R4), adjust the TV cable to factory specs.
If your O2 sensor is more than 50-70,000 miles old, replace it. Only use a real GM AC-Delco sensor. The Bosch sensors have caused rough idle and surging problems for me and other people.
Now you've got a smooth running 307 that you can feel confident in taking anywhere!

Stage I: Tuning and cheapo-mods (under $100 total)
Advance the timing by 2 degrees (to 22 degrees). This may require the use of 89 or 92 octane fuel to prevent pinging. But if you wanna play, you gotta pay. For track-only use you can advance it 4 or 6 degrees, but this makes the car hard to start, and it idles rough.
Adjust the secondary air valve spring tension (wrap). On the top rear passenger side of the carb, you'll see a small hex-screw underneath and a small slotted screw on the side. Loosen the hex screw with an allen wrench, and turn the slotted screw out 1/8 turn (hold it as you loosen the hex set-screw) and re-tighten the hex screw. Repeat until you notice a bog when going to WOT, then tighten back up 1/8th turn.
If you have a 200-R4 tranny, push the TV cable back (tighter) one click.
Install a Robertshaw or Mr. Gasket 180 degree high-flow thermostat. 160 is too cold and could possibly set computer error codes. 180 degrees is a nice compromise, and the high-flow keeps it rock-steady at 180 degrees under all conditions.
Add Red Line Water Wetter to the cooling system. All I can say is It really works!
Fabricate a cold-air intake system for your car. Using dryer ducting or the stock stuff, get cold air to the air cleaner. Make sure you keep the hot-air riser tube or cold weather driveability will suffer. If you have a dual-snorkel air cleaner, wire the second snorkel to open when the first does (use a vacuum T) and get fresh air to it. At the track (or even when the weather is warm) just disconnect and plug the hose to the second snorkel, so it's open all the time. Good places for fresh air are hard to find on these cars, but you can use the hole behind the passenger's side headlights, in the fender up there, or go underneath the radiator support.
Get a K&N air filter to replace the stock one. K&N DOES make one, you might need to supply your speed shop guy with the AC filter part number to cross reference by, rather than by application.
If you have a single exhuast (and not the duals provided with H/O's and 442's), then replace the single muffler with a turbo style muffler. Hollowing out the catalytic converter would provide a benefit too, but since most areas check emissions now, and since it would be illegal, I wouldn't recommend it, and I wouldn't do anything like that myself.
Get some richer secondary metering rods. The Olds FAQ at http://www.442.com lists some recommended rods under the Rebuilding, Quadrajet section. Only way to find what rods are right for you is by trial and error.
Check to see that your secondary air valve opens fully. This isn't an issue on the H/O, but on some other 307's it is.

Stage II: A few more bolt-ons (about $500-$600)
Get a performance computer chip. I recommend having a custom chip made if you can find someone to do it. Try about 8 degrees additional advance (i.e. in addition to that in the stock timing tables) at WOT (plus the 2 more you added to base timing in stage I makes a total of 10). Second choice would be a Thermo-Master chip from Hypertech. These only advance the timing 5-6 degrees more than the stock chip (and only at WOT) and are very streetable. The Street-Runner version barely advances it enough to notice.
Add a dual exhaust system. Hooker makes a nice 2.5" system (see mine). Walker makes a 2 1/4" system for about the same price, and the original GM system from the H/O, 442, and GNX is still available from GM for not much more. If you're only running at the track, forget this step and just disconnect your catalytic converter from the exhaust system and run with an open pipe.
Upgrade the ignition system. Spiral core wires make the biggest improvement (I use Taylor Spiro-Pro). An upgraded coil (like Accel, Hypertech, etc) will also help a little.
Install a shift-kit in your tranny, and get a tranny cooler. I like the B&M supercooler, it has a low pressure drop and is small. Put it in line before your stock cooler. Braided stainless hose or custom bent hard line is a good idea here.

Stage III:
Intake. Use an Edelbrock Performer Intake. Can't use this with 7A heads. It bolts into place, but attaching everything back up isn't exactly bolt-on. You'll need to move some sensors, get a few pipe-adaptors, modify the throttle cable and TV cable bracket, and bend up a custom cruise control linkage. You will need to re-adjust the secondary air valve, idle mixture, and secondary metering rods after installing this. Be sure to use a 4-hole carb gasket and not the stock 2-hole one or you'll defeat the point behind a dual-plane manifold.
optional Partially or completely block off one or both of the heat crossover passages from the head to the intake. A piece of stainless sheet metal from your old "turkey tray" intake gasket will work, with a hole drilled in the center to allow a little air through. If you completely block them off, you'll need to convert to an electric choke. The colder of a climate you live in, the more "optional" this step is.
Posi. If you don't have a limited slip differential, now's the time to get one. I found a new GM unit, but Auburn also makes ones that will fit.
Gears. Upgrade to somewhere in the 3.23-3.73:1 range. 3.73's are liveable with the OD tranny, but if you do a lot of driving at 70+mph, consider something in the lower 3's. Don't forget to recalibrate your speedo!
OD tranny. If you don't have one, get one. Try to find a core from a 442, H/O, GN, T-Type, or Monte SS. Give it a good rebuild with a quality kit. Some kit and rebuilder recommendations can be found on the GN/T-Type home page at http://ni.umd.edu/gnttype/www.
High-stall converter. About a 2400 rpm lockup converter should do nicely. These are stock on the 442's and H/O's.
MSD-6 (or 6AL) system. Doesn't help power too much, but the car starts easier, idles better, and the power comes on smoother all around. You'll need cooler plugs with this, like the NGK 5670-6 plugs gapped at 0.040.
Cam swap. If you've got a VIN Y engine, you can swap in a more radical cam like that used in the VIN 9 engine. Don't go too radical though or the computer and emissions won't like it. You could contact somone like Joe Mondello or Dick Miller to see what they recommend. Remember to get a roller-lifter cam if you've got a roller-lifter engine. Install stiffer valve springs like on the VIN 9 engine at the same time. I also recommend replacing the timing chain or putting on a true roller chain while you have it apart.

Stage IV:
Pull your 307 engine. Find a 350 or 403 engine and swap it in place. Paint it satin black and nobody will ever know. You should be able to keep most of your previous modifications. I recommend looking at the Olds Faq at http://www.442.com to help decide what block and cylinder heads you should use.

Ride and Handling:
I'd do this step sometime between stage I and II.
If you have the factory air shocks on the rear of your H/O or 442, remove them. But keep all the hardware just in case you ever want to go back.
Install new gas shocks all around. Bilstein or Koni for the ultimate handling and performance, KYB for bargain performance, or Monroe or Gabriel for the best ride and better than stock performance.
Install Air Lift air bags in the rear springs. These have two functions. 1) Pre-load the right rear tire for better traction when racing (fill the right side to 15-20psi, empty the left) 2) Level out the back end when carrying cargo.
Get some 15x7" wheels (stock on the H/O and 442) and install 235/60R15 tires (or whatever aspect it takes to keep your speedo accurate). 16x8" wheels can be made to fit if you choose carefully.
Install polygraphite sway-bar bushings.
Performance Friction Z-Rated carbon-metallic brake pads are a great improvement over the stock brakes.

Not Recommended:
Headers. The only maker for headers for a G-body with a 307 is Heddman. They are of marginal fit and quality and I wouldn't want to have to put up with them on a daily driver. Also, you'd have to have custom duals bent up, would have to do something about the tranny crossover on the driver's side, would have to lose your cat or get two, and would have to have a bung welded in for the O2 sensor.
Removing the A.I.R. pump. It doesn't take a significant amount of horsepower to run, and removing it will cause a rough idle and incorrect [lean] air/fuel mixture since the computer is expecting to see the added oxygen at the O2 sensor from the fresh air pumped in.
Mounting your tranny cooler in front of the radiator. Can cause the car to run hot on hot days. Try putting it off to the side, or behind the passenger's side headlights (maybe put a small electric fan on it to be really trick!). Also don't put the cooler after the stock cooler, put it before. This way your tranny fluid won't get too cold on winter days.
Nitrous. The windowed main webs and cast pistons on the stock engine probably won't take it for long, although I know someone who's still using a 150hp kit and hasn't damaged it yet. Besides, Nitrous isn't for driving around town with. It gets expensive, you can't leave the bottle open all the time, and you run the risk of destroying your engine if you get nitrous in there at idle, or without the proper fuel.
Electric fan. A nice idea in theory, and may be beneficial for drag racing, but I have yet to see one that will fit these cars and can keep it cool on a hot day in heavy traffic as well as a good old belt driven fan does.