: Thinking about an appearance mod. Want some opinions.



DitkaFan
04-05-11, 09:47 PM
So I was flipping through the latest C&D Mag and I found the following website in the back add sections. http://www.calipercovers.com

One of my minor complaints about my 08 STS is how grungy my Calipers look… So I was thinking about adding a set of the red caliper covers.
http://www.calipercovers.com/_e/2006_2010_Cadillac_STS_CTS_CTS4_JE5_brake_system_/product/14118-S-MGP-RD/2006_2010_Cadillac_STS_CTS_CTS4_Red_Caliper_Covers .htm

The installation looks to be very easy and I could probably finish this mod in less than an hour or two (closer to 2 if I enjoy a couple frosty brews during my install).

What are your thoughts?

I think it would really class up the wheel wells of my boring JE5 STS4… I was also going to check eBay in case I can find them cheaper then 200 bucks + shipping.

chazglenn3
04-05-11, 10:27 PM
Why not just paint your calipers?

kitzmann
04-05-11, 10:28 PM
$200 seems a little expense for just caliper covers. I bought a caliper paint kit I think from Pep Boys for less then $15 and did them myself on a Saturday while downing a few cold ones. Here is a picture of my car afterhttp://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71618

550HP STSV
04-06-11, 10:21 AM
lol!

SlickCityStan
04-06-11, 12:07 PM
lol!What's so funny?

550HP STSV
04-06-11, 02:56 PM
those wheels, painted v6 calipers, and all the autozone chrome covers.

DitkaFan
04-06-11, 04:24 PM
those wheels, painted v6 calipers, and all the autozone chrome covers.

Still not following what is so funny... ...

SlickCityStan
04-06-11, 04:55 PM
I am not going tosay anything

KRSTS
04-06-11, 05:57 PM
:bigroll

chazglenn3
04-06-11, 07:11 PM
I still think painting them with red caliper paint is a much cheaper way to go than those aluminum covers for $200...but that is just me. I prefer mine plain the way they came.

EChas3
04-06-11, 07:23 PM
Opinions vary.

Midnight
04-07-11, 12:46 PM
I don't see why they need to be red. I think black would look subtle and clean.

Greg00coupe
04-07-11, 01:07 PM
Well if you paint them you can go with any color you wish. I agree it is not that difficult of a job. I'd do that before spending the $200.

BTW some commentors.......... If you don't like someones ride just let it go. Don't be immature. Come on you can do it.....maybe.

550HP STSV
04-07-11, 01:46 PM
Guess I'll explain myself again for the V6 kids out here:

You own a Cadillac. It is a nicely styled luxury car. There is a reason why Cadillac chose not to put on plastic chrome door handle covers, plastic chrome door pillar posts, and ghetto chrome hoodrich wheels. They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing research to figure out what looks "Classy" and defines Cadillac. After all their R&D, they found that the majority of people (and what is best for the brand,) was SUBTLE chrome accents across the window sills, and in the later year STS' across the bottom of the rocker panel and top of the rear bumper. These were classy modifications. The huge chrome door pillar posts look cheesy, as do aftermarket chrome wheels. The wheels Cadillac chose to offer on these cars, and accessory wheels, look great. 99% of people would agree with the fact that most factory wheels fit this car perfectly. Again, that is due to countless hours of research and design.

Did you know why Brembo calipers are usually red, or an offset color? Because THEY ARE BIG BRAKES. They DESERVE to stand out. They call attention to the fact that you have six piston calipers. Painting tiny little single or dual piston V6 calipers looks foolish. If you like the look of Big Brembo Brakes, get big brembo brakes. Dont get plastic ebay covers that are going to warp and block airflow, that also look fake. This is why I had to laugh.

Also, don't put up a post about your tasteless modifications if you cant handle the negative remarks from other members, who may have a better idea of how things look than yourself. Thanks!

KRSTS
04-07-11, 02:31 PM
As much as I hate to admit it (AKA KSTS), I have to agree with you. I have not found any wheels that I like better than the OEM, and chrome in the wrong places does look cheesy:bouncy:

chazglenn3
04-07-11, 05:12 PM
Although I do agree with the majority of what you said 550HP STSV, I have noticed that every time you have made a comment in this forum, you mention V6 STS's...you do realize that many of us, me included have NorthStar V8's in our STS's right? And even though I don't have massive 6 piston Brembo brake calipers, the calipers I do have are not tiny.

EChas3
04-07-11, 08:50 PM
IMHO, They went too far with the fender vents & extra trim. It makes it look like a Ford.

kitzmann
04-07-11, 09:21 PM
Everyone has their own opinion about anything that anyone does not matter what it is. Must be a lot of people buying after market add-ons because they continue to make them for the Cadillac. Just because you think its tasteless doesn't make it tasteless, again that's your opinion. I could feel the same way about yours.
Guess I'll explain myself again for the V6 kids out here:

You own a Cadillac. It is a nicely styled luxury car. There is a reason why Cadillac chose not to put on plastic chrome door handle covers, plastic chrome door pillar posts, and ghetto chrome hoodrich wheels. They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing research to figure out what looks "Classy" and defines Cadillac. After all their R&D, they found that the majority of people (and what is best for the brand,) was SUBTLE chrome accents across the window sills, and in the later year STS' across the bottom of the rocker panel and top of the rear bumper. These were classy modifications. The huge chrome door pillar posts look cheesy, as do aftermarket chrome wheels. The wheels Cadillac chose to offer on these cars, and accessory wheels, look great. 99% of people would agree with the fact that most factory wheels fit this car perfectly. Again, that is due to countless hours of research and design.

Did you know why Brembo calipers are usually red, or an offset color? Because THEY ARE BIG BRAKES. They DESERVE to stand out. They call attention to the fact that you have six piston calipers. Painting tiny little single or dual piston V6 calipers looks foolish. If you like the look of Big Brembo Brakes, get big brembo brakes. Dont get plastic ebay covers that are going to warp and block airflow, that also look fake. This is why I had to laugh.

Also, don't put up a post about your tasteless modifications if you cant handle the negative remarks from other members, who may have a better idea of how things look than yourself. Thanks!

DitkaFan
04-07-11, 11:44 PM
Guess I'll explain myself again for the V6 kids out here:

You own a Cadillac. It is a nicely styled luxury car. There is a reason why Cadillac chose not to put on plastic chrome door handle covers, plastic chrome door pillar posts, and ghetto chrome hoodrich wheels. They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing research to figure out what looks "Classy" and defines Cadillac. After all their R&D, they found that the majority of people (and what is best for the brand,) was SUBTLE chrome accents across the window sills, and in the later year STS' across the bottom of the rocker panel and top of the rear bumper. These were classy modifications. The huge chrome door pillar posts look cheesy, as do aftermarket chrome wheels. The wheels Cadillac chose to offer on these cars, and accessory wheels, look great. 99% of people would agree with the fact that most factory wheels fit this car perfectly. Again, that is due to countless hours of research and design.

Did you know why Brembo calipers are usually red, or an offset color? Because THEY ARE BIG BRAKES. They DESERVE to stand out. They call attention to the fact that you have six piston calipers. Painting tiny little single or dual piston V6 calipers looks foolish. If you like the look of Big Brembo Brakes, get big brembo brakes. Dont get plastic ebay covers that are going to warp and block airflow, that also look fake. This is why I had to laugh.

Also, don't put up a post about your tasteless modifications if you cant handle the negative remarks from other members, who may have a better idea of how things look than yourself. Thanks!

First off, they are powder coated aluminum, not plastic. Secondly... They act as a heat sink to help keeps the calipers cool and reduce break fading. Finally the v6DI is damn near as powerful as the north star while providing ~10mpg more than the aged northstar. I thought they sounded functional and looked nice..

I could have easily afforded a new cts-v as I make 180k + bonuses a yr. But I'm not a track guy so what would be the Point. I got a killer deal on nice very low mileage sedan and it keeps miles off my 06 land rover hse that I bought with cash new in 06... To get to the point, there are really loud judge-mental folk on this forum...its too bad they seem to overshadow the nice helpful ones.

And opinions don't bother me just ignorant people.

ddalder
04-07-11, 11:45 PM
I agree with anyone when they say they want to make their car, their own. This is the beauty of the people... not everyone likes the same thing. I'd hate to see nothing but a Ford Focus everywhere I look. At least I can look around and often say "Wow, I have a much better looking car than that guy!" LOL. You have to climb into your car everyday and you have to be the one to enjoy its appearance. Frankly, it doesn't really matter what anyone else likes or dislikes. I've seen some mods that, IMO, look absolutely hideous. Who's to say I'm right? Who's to say the other guy is right? When I put chromed factory wheels on my Bonneville, most people thought it looked great. One or two didn't like them. Guess what... I love how they look and they're staying.

Do what you want with your car. All you need to keep in mind is that if you sell your car, poor quality workmanship or mods that are a little over the edge for most people may limit your potential market. Since GM puts these vents on the car, I don't think most people shopping for an STS would likely give it a second thought. Again, keep in mind quality of workmanship (straight, level, correct placement, symmetry from side to side).

DitkaFan
04-07-11, 11:48 PM
I agree with anyone when they say they want to make their car, their own. This is the beauty of the people... not everyone likes the same thing. I'd hate to see nothing but a Ford Focus everywhere I look. At least I can look around and often say "Wow, I have a much better looking car than that guy!" LOL. You have to climb into your car everyday and you have to be the one to enjoy its appearance. Frankly, it doesn't really matter what anyone else likes or dislikes. I've seen some mods that, IMO, look absolutely hideous. Who's to say I'm right? Who's to say the other guy is right? When I put chromed factory wheels on my Bonneville, most people thought it looked great. One or two didn't like them. Guess what... I love how they look and they're staying.

Do what you want with your car. All you need to keep in mind is that if you sell your car, poor quality workmanship or mods that are a little over the edge for most people may limit your potential market. Since GM puts these vents on the car, I don't think most people shopping for an STS would likely give it a second thought. Again, keep in mind quality of workmanship (straight, level, correct placement, symmetry from side to side).

Great post!

550HP STSV
04-08-11, 10:32 AM
First off, they are powder coated aluminum, not plastic. Secondly... They act as a heat sink to help keeps the calipers cool and reduce break fading. Finally the v6DI is damn near as powerful as the north star while providing ~10mpg more than the aged northstar. I thought they sounded functional and looked nice..

And opinions don't bother me just ignorant people.

Wait a second... You mean to tell me that by placing aluminum covers over the calipers they are going to act as a heat sink and keep the calipers cool AND reduce brake fading????

:yup:

Guess all the V-Series bumpers and Corvette Z06's out there with front and rear brake scoops... you know, to get cool air to the caliper and pads... had the wrong idea the whole time!! All we had to do was put aluminum covers over them to keep the heat in! Whoops, according to you that keeps them COOL and reduces brake fading?

Tell me more about ignorant people....

GoofyGuy
04-08-11, 12:18 PM
I thought about painting mine also, but then if I make them red what color do I paint the Brembo logos back on. Stupid huge calipers

DitkaFan
04-08-11, 12:26 PM
Wait a second... You mean to tell me that by placing aluminum covers over the calipers they are going to act as a heat sink and keep the calipers cool AND reduce brake fading????

:yup:

Guess all the V-Series bumpers and Corvette Z06's out there with front and rear brake scoops... you know, to get cool air to the caliper and pads... had the wrong idea the whole time!! All we had to do was put aluminum covers over them to keep the heat in! Whoops, according to you that keeps them COOL and reduces brake fading?

Tell me more about ignorant people....

Air flow is only one part of the equation... By increasing the surface area that the air flow across you can/will increase your cooling of a component...

A heat sink is physically designed to increase the surface area in contact with the cooling fluid surrounding it, such as the air. Approach air velocity, choice of material, fin (or other protrusion) design and surface treatment are some of the design factors which influence the thermal resistance, i.e. thermal performance, of a heat sink....A heat sink is an object that transfers thermal energy from a higher temperature to a lower temperature fluid medium. The fluid medium is frequently air, but can also be water or in the case of heat exchangers, refrigerants and oil. If the fluid medium is water, the 'heat sink' is frequently called a cold plate.

To understand the principle of a heat sink, consider Fourier's law of heat conduction. Joseph Fourier was a French mathematician who made important contributions to the analytical treatment of heat conduction.[1] Fourier's law of heat conduction, simplified to a one-dimensional form in the x-direction, shows that when there is a temperature gradient in a body, heat will be transferred from the higher temperature region to the lower temperature region. The rate at which heat is transferred by conduction, qk, is proportional to the product of the temperature gradient and the cross-sectional area through which heat is transferred.... (more explanation of how heat sinks work available by following the URL below)

Try educating your self... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_sink

550HP STSV
04-08-11, 01:42 PM
Showing your ignorance again, are we? I'm very familiar with how heat sinks work, I happen to have a degree in Computer Science. All the copy and pasting from Wikipedia cant save you from this truth:

The HEAT SOURCE DISSIPATING MUST COME IN CONTACT WITH THE BASE OR FINS OF THE HEAT SINK!

Simply attaching a tiny bracket (or glue in this case) to your caliper cover and your caliper WILL DO NOTHING TO DISSIPATE HEAT! If anything, it will keep the radiating heat SEALED inside the assembly.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4066/install3.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2105/install4r.jpg

If you think that is going to function as a heat sink.... :thumbsup:

Greg00coupe
04-08-11, 02:10 PM
If you don't like someone ride just say so...... say it's not my taste. But to post LOL what a classless comment. And then to make more posts to defend a stupid comment........ some folks just are bottom feeders.

Ditka.......... do what makes you happy........ it's your money your ride. Ignore ignorance.

Platinum06
04-08-11, 05:19 PM
I was thinking of painting the stock one but they are ugly in any color. The mgp ones didn't fit to good on my AWD. They also looked real fake.
Then I went on ebay and bought those plastic Brembo look a like ones that worked and looked much better. Had to trim them just a bit to fit perfectly. Bought some Cadi decals for them and done. Believe it or not they look great.

chazglenn3
04-08-11, 05:24 PM
Pics, please!

Platinum06
04-08-11, 05:30 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-sts-forum-2005-through-2010/198357-caliper-covers-4.html#post2238818

chazglenn3
04-08-11, 05:34 PM
Thanks...those do look nice.

Platinum06
04-08-11, 05:35 PM
decal

EChas3
04-08-11, 08:28 PM
I say, "To each, their own."

For some, it may be an accessory I wouldn't choose.

It's much harder to not fault the remark I wouldn't make.

Some only look crass, others prove they are crass.

turnne
04-09-11, 07:51 AM
Hopefully thats not an expensive mode...reason being I am not sure it would really be noticed



Warren

Platinum06
04-09-11, 08:16 AM
If your talking about the plastic covers...$95 and a tube of high temp silicone. They have been on since last summer and still fit under the stock wheels, which i run in the winter.

550HP STSV
04-09-11, 01:00 PM
Any no one says anything about the tiny rotors behind the fake caliper covers?

Platinum06
04-09-11, 10:52 PM
Don't really consider 12.7 and 12.6 "tiny" ...They even look good with the summer 20's which are Chrome btw.

STS Serge 172
04-19-11, 01:36 PM
Wheels almost look OEM, not bad good stuff, not a huge fan of chrome but I have some myself...

Anyhow looks good

z06bigbird
04-19-11, 10:40 PM
1. Paint calipers.
2. Install aftermarket wheels.
3. etc.

Then drive your vehicle at the (normal) speed of perhaps 60 mph.

1. Who can then see the calipers?
2. Who can see the wheels?
3. Who can tell if it is your car?
4. Who can tell if it is you?

Then park vehicle in garage so that car or options don't grow legs.

1. Who can see: (See above.)

Good news: Car owner helped the economy. lol

Pjazz
04-20-11, 12:14 AM
I don't particularly like the look of painted calipers on a caddy but if you like it enjoy

mannyurrego
04-20-11, 10:27 AM
totally agreed.....


Guess I'll explain myself again for the V6 kids out here:

You own a Cadillac. It is a nicely styled luxury car. There is a reason why Cadillac chose not to put on plastic chrome door handle covers, plastic chrome door pillar posts, and ghetto chrome hoodrich wheels. They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing research to figure out what looks "Classy" and defines Cadillac. After all their R&D, they found that the majority of people (and what is best for the brand,) was SUBTLE chrome accents across the window sills, and in the later year STS' across the bottom of the rocker panel and top of the rear bumper. These were classy modifications. The huge chrome door pillar posts look cheesy, as do aftermarket chrome wheels. The wheels Cadillac chose to offer on these cars, and accessory wheels, look great. 99% of people would agree with the fact that most factory wheels fit this car perfectly. Again, that is due to countless hours of research and design.

Did you know why Brembo calipers are usually red, or an offset color? Because THEY ARE BIG BRAKES. They DESERVE to stand out. They call attention to the fact that you have six piston calipers. Painting tiny little single or dual piston V6 calipers looks foolish. If you like the look of Big Brembo Brakes, get big brembo brakes. Dont get plastic ebay covers that are going to warp and block airflow, that also look fake. This is why I had to laugh.

Also, don't put up a post about your tasteless modifications if you cant handle the negative remarks from other members, who may have a better idea of how things look than yourself. Thanks!

jordan00escalade
04-20-11, 12:04 PM
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_3141.jpg
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_2131.jpg
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_3244.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words.. Besides I don't have anything nice to say

jordan00escalade
04-20-11, 12:10 PM
Platinum06
Great looking STS.. Classy!

Pjazz
04-21-11, 12:21 AM
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_3141.jpg
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_2131.jpg
http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp70/Vinson_Family1/IMG_3244.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words.. Besides I don't have anything nice to say

Nice Ride.

jordan00escalade
04-21-11, 12:39 AM
Hey Thanks.