: DTS production numbers for March 2011 - The junk is coming fast

04-02-11, 04:59 PM
The build out is starting based on the production numbers for March: DTS produced at Detroit/Hamtramck assembly - total of 1,580 vehicles down -26.4% from 2010.

Thatís basically a rate of 75 per day, and at 40 vehicles per hour tells me that the production mix of Lucerne, Volt and DTS is no more than 30% DTS.

Get them while you still can get a quality vehicle! As you get closer to the build out (like the last 2-3 weeks of production) stay away from those vehicles. Hereís what happens: Every previously rejected part that could pass with repairs or cosmetic rework will be unloaded from the suppliers MRB cages and shipped in vehicle sequence to Ham"Tragic". Sequenced parts are VERY difficult to reject during build out.

Interior fits and finishes will suffer. Anomolous electrical performance can be expected from the contents of 100's of part totes (PCM.s BCM, Harnesses, Motors that were dropped, and should have been scrapped or had been lot rejected for high defect rates, and the supplier was charged back for the parts. These parts have been sitting gathering dust waiting for this day to arrive.

Nothing that was previously rejected by the assembly plant which can still be dolled up or retested will remain in the suppliers inventory, you can count on that. As the last 2-3 weeks arrive the suppliers will begin mixing these parts in with the "good" parts. They will be able to get away with it.

Every single part in the assembly plants inventory in the last 2 weeks will be necessary so borderline cosmetic rejects will be passed. Any extra parts remaining after the last vehicle has rolled of the final line will be sent out to service parts, and yes you guessed it , those stand a good chance of being previously rejected parts. Nice huh?.

The plant body shop also frequently has bodies that are shall we say are less than perfect sitting on skucks gathering dust. These will somehow find their way onto the mixed bank when no one is "looking" and hopefully only make it into rental fleets, but you never know it could end up being yours. (Hint: Water leaks, 8 mm fender gaps, etc.)

Lastly some of the difficult electrical problem vehicles that have been sitting in the plant float will find their way back into the repair areas, ripped down for troubleshooting, put back together and pushed through the "Care line" area by over zealous final line superintendents who want them on the Rail head companies books and out of the plant inventory. Believe me the final scheduled shipment date will be met,

Stay away for these last vehicles. This advice is from one who has been part of many GM model assembly plant "build outs" :tisk:

04-02-11, 05:40 PM
Interesting, but not surprising. The last ones out the door will probably have some Volt parts on them, LOL.

04-02-11, 07:23 PM
And what about older models that require parts for repairs? Are the parts used for them going to be as bad as you say?

04-02-11, 07:39 PM
And what about older models that require parts for repairs? Are the parts used for them going to be as bad as you say?

Color specific parts (less finish part numbers) like interior and exterior plastic, rubber, seats, headliners, and any electrical parts that are not common to other models still in production the answer is ABSOLUTELY. And the old addage thet they have to supply parts for 10 years is complete rubbish. Less finish part numbers are typically only inventoried to supply 3-5 years after model production ceases.

After that GM SPO awards small lot contracts to suppliers who will push the parts out for a high per piece price. Quality control is marginal, particularily if the tooling belonged to the original supplier and it has been scrapped.

Dont agree? Just try to match colors on interior parts for these vehicle in 2014 from GM Service parts. You will pay through the nose for Crap parts IF they are available.

04-03-11, 01:31 PM
That's why I'll be on the lookout for a 2010 DTS III or Plat. model in 2012. My 2006 only has 28,000+ on it, but I would like to score a newer one too. Diggerdog

04-04-11, 11:54 AM
What would be the last build date to consider purchasing?

04-04-11, 06:04 PM
What would be the last build date to consider purchasing?

Safety stock inventory is usually approximately 10 days or 2 weeks normal production from all but the true Just In Time suppliers. Once the last two weeks of production starts thats when the Shi7 will begin to flow from the suppliers. SOme parts mixed in sooner if the number of reworks in inventory is high. So I would say that you would be safe just outside of the last 1000 vehicles produced.

Basicily three weeks before the last vehicle rolls into general assembly. Therefore, assuming an 8 week time from order to delivery, if I were ordering a new DTS now is the time. May is too late as the last DTS was to be built at DHAM on first shift July 1 or sooner.

Lev Blekher
04-11-11, 01:56 AM
Do you work there? I would love to see some pics of the final build.

Too bad it has to be so messed up. In an effort to raise customer satisfaction GM should eat the money and just scrap the remaining junk. The part about dropped engines is really agitating. This is no way to end a line and it's unacceptable just because the full-size luxobarge segment is gone or drastically changing with the XTS.

Funny about parts, I still don't have a problem getting Mopar for the Strat.