: new headliner - what color do i have? where to buy?



Adrian12
03-29-11, 03:17 AM
hi cadillac friends

my headliner is hanging around and i need a new one.
my body color is 91L and 91U (desert sand firemist --> thanks to all forum members for the color thread)
my trim combination is 61D (sandstone)

i thaught to buy a headlinerset at http://www.wlsheadliners.com/full-sized-car-headliner-kit.html but don't know what color i have to choose!?
the colors: http://www.wlsheadliners.com/headliner-color-chart.html

1771 desert tan nealry looks like the right color, but any screen shows colors in a different way, so i'm still not sure...

in europe i didn't find a store, but maybe someone knows anything where to buy?

is there a possibility to get out the right color with the color codes above?

thanks a lot for all your help :)

spring sunshine from austria to you all

adrian

jayoldschool
03-29-11, 01:24 PM
The easiest, and by far the cheapest, would be to get a member in the US to send you the fabric. You can buy it at JoAnns Fabric stores. It costs less than $30. You could then recover your headliner yourself. I can post a how to if you need it.

sven914
03-29-11, 04:41 PM
I've got a question...

My headliner is starting to sag in the middle, but the material is in mint condition. Can I reuse the factory material?

outsider
03-29-11, 07:15 PM
I've been told no before...but I still don't understand why it's a no.

jayoldschool
03-29-11, 08:02 PM
It's a no. The headliner material is foam backed. The foam side is glued to the headliner board. The reason why the headliner sags is the foam starts to break down between the board and the fabric. To fix it, you must go with new material, and you MUST get ALL the old foam off the headliner board before gluing on the new material.

Here's my mom's 91 Caprice headliner getting redone. By mom, btw. I told her how to do it, and she did it herself.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/jayoldschool/100_2123.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/jayoldschool/100_2124.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/jayoldschool/100_2127.jpg

My_favorite_Brougham
03-29-11, 08:14 PM
I've been told no before...but I still don't understand why it's a no.

Headliner cloth is actually cloth glued to a foam backing. That side is what's glued to the headliner board. Headliners sag when that foam (basically foam rubber) deteriorates. When you take the old cloth off, it will be incredibly messy, and it will make better sense then.

I'm not sure if stores carry it, but there's a new headliner cloth out there that supposedly doesn't sag. You might want to look into that if you want to prevent it from happening again. Then again, I'm in Texas where the heat kills everything.

Greg

Adrian12
03-30-11, 03:14 AM
The easiest, and by far the cheapest, would be to get a member in the US to send you the fabric. You can buy it at JoAnns Fabric stores. It costs less than $30. You could then recover your headliner yourself. I can post a how to if you need it.

hmm sounds good to get a how to because i dont know how to get the headliner out without damage....

but the main problem is getting the right color.. i'd like to have the original color but dont know how its called...

thanks a lot for all your help :)

75sled
03-30-11, 04:25 PM
alot of these online shops will send you sample colors free of charge. You then could match it to the current material.

jayoldschool
03-30-11, 05:25 PM
To get the headliner out:
- remove A B and C pillar covers
- remove sunvisors
- remove dome light
- remove front map light/garage door opener holder
- lower front passenger seat and fully recline back
- take headliner out through front passenger door

Then, peel off your old material. After that, scrape and sand ALL the old foam off the board. Then, spray contact glue on the board, and on the new material. Let it set up, then carefully roll the fabric onto the glued board. Smooth, then trim with scissors and a knife. Cut out holes where needed, then put everything back in.

Angry Matt
03-31-11, 06:41 PM
I've been using the Permatex glue in the orange can and have been really impressed so far. I always let it set overnight before I put it back in. Don't know if it's necessary, but a good precaution. I'll second the JoAnn fabrics too. Worked well in my Cutlass, but they don't have a great selection of colors.