: Black Diamond Sedan is in. Question about pricing/invoice, help please....



D307P
03-28-11, 08:07 PM
Black Diamond Sedan came into my local dealership today. Went to look at it and without sun hitting it, it looks black. When sun hits it, it REALLY sparkles. (I told my wife let's call it "black with stripper glitter", she wasn't amused...

Anyway, when I price out the car on any site, the MSRP is $71,640 (black diamond with sunroof). Both my credit union and Edmunds dot com shows an invoice price of $66,879.28.

Dealer print out shows invoice of:
$71,640.00 MSRP
$66,004.28 Invoice
875.00 Destination Charge
707.65 Dealer IMR Contribution
707.65 LMA Group Contribution
$68,294.58 Total
$65,317.15 Total less holdback and approx. wholesale finance credit

If we are talking about true invoice price, are we figuring $66k or $68K?

I would be trading in 2010 Thunder Gray CTS-V sedan with 5,500 miles on it. Kelly Blue book rates my car at tradein of $57,225, and their first offer was $55,000 for my car and $13,794 cash.

Before I left, they knocked another $2,794 off price, so my car and $11,000 plus tax and title.

GM-4-LIFE
03-28-11, 08:22 PM
I can't say that's a bad deal. That's great trade in value. Invoice on my $71K V Coupe was $68K and change.

D307P
03-28-11, 08:30 PM
I don't know if my Cadillac dealer uses Kelly Blue book or not for tradein, but they always list their used cars AT Kelly Blue Book Retail for a used car.

GM-4-LIFE
03-28-11, 08:35 PM
Most dealers don't use Kelly Blue Book. They haven't for years and years. They go by the local auctions and what they can buy a car like yours at auction. They offer you a similar price, hoping you will take it as they stand to make a good amount of money off of your trade-in and the new car they sell you. This is how dealerships make double the money when you have a trade-in.

CONGRATS on your new vehicle.

D307P
03-28-11, 09:22 PM
Haven't told the dealer I would take the car yet, taking the night to figure if I am getting a good deal or not. I really love my Thunder gray with polished aluminum wheels, and I like the Black Diamond but hate the wheels.
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dvandentop
03-28-11, 10:11 PM
i am sure they would trade wheels on the cars or you could find someone to trade with.

shade
03-28-11, 11:06 PM
^^ I'd trade for those rims any day.

Damn I like the grey, I should have went that route instead of black.

baabootoo
03-29-11, 01:08 AM
1. Sounds like a good deal to me.
2. You will NOT have a problem gettinf rid of those wheels my friend.
3. What's with wives and the stripper drama?????????????????? :)

Kado91Z
03-29-11, 07:08 AM
I would trade you straight up for my polished wheels with less than 1k miles on them....would even drive to meet you

MReiland
03-29-11, 07:30 AM
Black Diamond Sedan came into my local dealership today. Went to look at it and without sun hitting it, it looks black. When sun hits it, it REALLY sparkles. (I told my wife let's call it "black with stripper glitter", she wasn't amused...

Anyway, when I price out the car on any site, the MSRP is $71,640 (black diamond with sunroof). Both my credit union and Edmunds dot com shows an invoice price of $66,879.28.

Dealer print out shows invoice of:
$71,640.00 MSRP
$66,004.28 Invoice
875.00 Destination Charge
707.65 Dealer IMR Contribution
707.65 LMA Group Contribution
$68,294.58 Total
$65,317.15 Total less holdback and approx. wholesale finance credit

If we are talking about true invoice price, are we figuring $66k or $68K?

I would be trading in 2010 Thunder Gray CTS-V sedan with 5,500 miles on it. Kelly Blue book rates my car at tradein of $57,225, and their first offer was $55,000 for my car and $13,794 cash.

Before I left, they knocked another $2,794 off price, so my car and $11,000 plus tax and title.

For a 2011 CTS-V Black Diamond Sedan, Base MSRP is $62165, Plus Auto ($0), Ultraview($1150), BlackDiamond Package, Auto Gas Guzzler ($2600), Delivery ($875) the Final MSRP should match your $71,640. GM Preferred Pricing is $67862. Currently up to $2000 cash allowance on V Sedan. I am not exactly sure what the Contributions are but I am guessing that is the Dealer Marketing and Advertising budget that they are trying to get you to pay.... so you take the Preferred Price minus the $2000 bonus cash and you should be at $65,862. You are on your own on the trade in, can't help you there.

GM-4-LIFE
03-29-11, 07:57 AM
The deal is a good one, but is there a reason why you want to go from a V Sedan to a V Sedan? I went from the V Sedan to the V Coupe for the change of body style, but the only reason you want to trade is the color?

mberisha
03-29-11, 01:24 PM
1. Sounds like a good deal to me.
2. You will NOT have a problem gettinf rid of those wheels my friend.
3. What's with wives and the stripper drama?????????????????? :)

MMMMmmmmmm.....stripper glitter....

Playdrv4me
03-30-11, 07:16 AM
Are you really about to drop 11Gs for a paint job? :p

BTW, I find the Thunder Gray absolutely gorgeous.

D307P
03-30-11, 07:19 PM
Are you really about to drop 11Gs for a paint job? :p

BTW, I find the Thunder Gray absolutely gorgeous.

No, I am not buying the paint job, I am buying the car that I want to own.

Final deal for Black Diamond Sedan with sunroof was $10,000 plus my 2010 V. Dealer swapped out the satin graphite wheels for polished aluminum, which for my personal preference made the car look more classy than racer. He also swapped out my Euro clear lens tail lights from my 2010. Did both of this at no charge.

I have to say that the paint job is really nice. Without the sun directly hitting the car, it looks black. In direct sunlight, it really sparkles, and I thought almost like a gold sparkle rather than silver. Having windows tinted and clear bra applied next Tuesday, than full detail.
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GM-4-LIFE
03-30-11, 08:20 PM
CONGRATS my man! I love my black diamond V Coupe. A very unique color even though some on this forum don't like the color and have made it known. Oh well! I get compliments on my car EVERY day and I have no regrets ordering mine sight unseen. ENJOY it!

Playdrv4me
03-30-11, 10:11 PM
No, I am not buying the paint job, I am buying the car that I want to own.

Well you already had the car in a different color, so technically, you bought the paint job.

However, there's nothing wrong with that, the black diamond is a unique and striking color in the right light. The wheels look much better in my opinion than the satin black wheels as well. Congrats.

Jesda
03-31-11, 06:41 AM
That's a really expensive way to get fancy paint. Happy motoring

MReiland
03-31-11, 07:06 AM
I think the Black Diamond sedan is awesome. I actually like the wheel/caliper combo. If D307B wants his perfect car in a special color or configuration go for it, it's your money.