: Installing 9.5 lower pulley and Heat Exchange, A few ?'s



Bowtye8
03-19-11, 09:10 PM
In the process of installing W4Me lower 9.5 pulley and heat exchanger.

I am at the point of removing the stock Balancer/pulley. Its seems the old style typical chevy puller will not work with this style pulley.
What is everyone else using to remove the focatory balancer? Any tips or tricks also?


Also going to install is heat exchanger. I assume the factory is the little black one at the foremost front of the car. The W4ME version takes its place or somehow in series? I did not investigate this too deep just yet.

On a positve note. I was able to remove the AC belt without cutting it. I used my half inch torque wrench with hte harmonic socket in place and spun the motor by hand while slipping off the belt. I hope I can get it on just as easy:suspense:

Thanks for any help.
Dennis

connore
03-19-11, 09:40 PM
its your basic 3 jaw puller i have the snap on puller also fits many other makes/models.

connore
03-19-11, 09:42 PM
need to pull fans for clearance

Bowtye8
03-19-11, 10:08 PM
Fans are pulled. Balancer ready for removal. Just need a modern puller. I have the old style for typical chevy old school. I have used it to remove a few steering wheels also.

RapidRob
03-19-11, 10:19 PM
In the process of installing W4Me lower 9.5 pulley and heat exchanger.

The W4ME version takes its place or somehow in series? I did not investigate this too deep just yet.

Dennis

If memory serves, I believe W4M once said that his heat exchanger could, and should, be installed in series for max effectiveness. I've heard that it's a real tight fit, but can be done.

Rob

baabootoo
03-20-11, 12:33 AM
There was another thread like this also, that had more tips. I thought that he had said get the "short" snap on one from Autozone. I'm doing mine next month hopefully.

qictrk
03-20-11, 02:01 AM
If memory serves me right, I believe you need a Chrysler type puller. Otherwise, your going to have to pull the radiator and you don't want to do that. Cecil..............

chrswk
03-20-11, 09:21 AM
Just started with the same modifications yesterday and found the following links to be helpful:

Pulley
http://www.planetlsx.com/tech/How_To__Install_Crank_Pulley_on_2009__CTS-V/146
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/tech/lsx_engine/1005gmhtp_2009_cadilliac_cts_v_bolt_ons/photo_01.html

Heat exchanger
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/210170-install-wait4me-heat-exchanger-custom-bumper.html
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/196435-does-w4m-heat-exchanger-replace-stock.html

Regarding the pulley puller, I ordered the one specified in the service manual, part number J 41816.

Bowtye8
03-20-11, 09:35 AM
Thanks for the links. I found a few of these links also. Printed out the planetlsx how to also.

I found these type pullers
http://tools.spx.usatoolwarehouse.com/harmonic-balancer-removal-tool--list

and these wiat4me videos. But kinda hard to see
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-2004-2010/1261335-2009-2010-cts-v-heads-cam-lower-pulley-heat-exchanger-install-video.html

Thanks again

Bowtye8
03-20-11, 11:14 AM
I would think the upper may be easier. If you could have a spare snout with your stock pulley still intact. Just thinking outloud :)

PhxTriode
03-20-11, 11:19 AM
Autozone rental, brand "OEM" chrysler small 3 jaw. works like butter. Yes also run Jesse's HX in series.

get ready for some fun. Great first mod

Bowtye8
03-20-11, 11:28 AM
Autozone rental, brand "OEM" chrysler small 3 jaw. works like butter. Yes also run Jesse's HX in series.

get ready for some fun. Great first mod
Thanks heading over to autozone today.

I also found a few older links
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/196435-does-w4m-heat-exchanger-replace-stock.html

PhxTriode
03-20-11, 11:34 AM
Thanks heading over to autozone today.

I also found a few older links
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/196435-does-w4m-heat-exchanger-replace-stock.html

You also need to make a balancer install tool. None of the rentals I found were long enough. I modified the stock balancer bolt by cutting the head off and welding some allthread on it to lengthen it.

Passenger side lower fan bolt use an open end wrench... Saves some profanity :-)

shade
03-20-11, 11:35 AM
Dont get into boost without a tune first.

PhxTriode
03-20-11, 12:01 PM
^^^^+1

Bowtye8
03-20-11, 02:23 PM
I already have the handheld with Jesse's Tunes. Loaded in his max tune. Will data log with HP tuners when I get back on the road.
Just rented the balancer remover from Autozone. I gave the counter guy the caddy info and the Chrysler puller popped right up on the screen.

I have a balancer installer. Have not tried to see if it will work with this setup.
I am snapping a few pics along the way.

PhxTriode
03-20-11, 02:54 PM
Your set then with HP Tuners and a baseline tune.

connore
03-20-11, 06:47 PM
snap on makes a great crank pulley installer like $80. you might want to borrow one if this is a one time thing.

Bowtye8
03-22-11, 06:03 PM
I read a few places to use blue lock-tite. I have a few tubes of red. Will that be ok? I know it may be harder to remove.
Trying to reassemble.

PhxTriode
03-22-11, 07:49 PM
I used red on the crank bolt and antisieze on the snout

Bowtye8
03-22-11, 10:13 PM
Thanks- Did the same for the snout. but did pickup some blue for the pully ring bolts.
Still have some have a few tiems to wrap up.....Install ht exchanger and CAI, but did fire up the car with the factory air filter setup. All good.
Looking to install the heat exchanger and CAI this weekend and get the car on the road.