: ZOMBIE ALERT! Saturn is back.



Jesda
03-12-11, 12:03 AM
Not really.

They're bringing back the Saturn Vue and calling it a Chevy Captiva, and its only available to fleet buyers.

http://jesda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Chevy-Captiva-Rental-582x355.jpg

I don't get the point, but whatever. Maybe it keeps the plant in Mexico busy. Derp.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2011/03/chevy-to-launch-captiva-in-us-market-for-fleets-only/

http://jesda.com/2011/03/12/zombie-alert-saturn-is-back/

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-12-11, 12:08 AM
I guess you cant kill a bad thing.

ThumperPup
03-12-11, 12:29 AM
if its to bad it ikeeps comming back to bite you in the butt
if its already dead then its a zombie and i say hide in the mall lol

OMG i can just see it now every car rental shhop will have ones of those consider it a SUV speilty and charge you 60 a day for it on a weekend lol

ga_etc
03-12-11, 04:33 AM
Must have had a stockpile of those parts left.

hueterm
03-12-11, 10:40 AM
Wasn't that basically the gen 1 Equinox? And CAPTIVA? So basically the rental companies are holding you captive in this little crapbag? What fail...

And I LOVE how they always blame rental fleets for bad resale. It couldn't be b/c what you sold to the rental fleet was basically crap, could it??

There are a lot of Camrys in fleets, and until the runaway Mary problem, they didn't seem to be having a problem w/resale value...

Just like a government agency...exact same mentality...

The Raven
03-12-11, 10:51 AM
Wasn't that basically the gen 1 Equinox? And CAPTIVA? So basically the rental companies are holding you captive in this little crapbag? What fail...

And I LOVE how they always blame rental fleets for bad resale. It couldn't be b/c what you sold to the rental fleet was basically crap, could it??

There are a lot of Camrys in fleets, and until the runaway Mary problem, they didn't seem to be having a problem w/resale value...

Just like a government agency...exact same mentality...

I have rented ALOT of cars in my life, and I have NEVER seen a Camry available for rental. It's always the same bunch - Impala, Malibu, Fusion, Taurus (used to be 500), Charger, Avenger/Sebring. ONE time I came across an Altima in the list of choices.

Basically what i'm saying is that I have no doubt you can rent a Camry at many locations on this earth, but I bet you real money that if you look at the number of Camrys in the rental world vs. the number of Malibus or Fusions, the ratio would be something like 1:100.

That DEFINITELY makes a difference in resale value.

OffThaHorseCEO
03-12-11, 11:52 AM
Not really.

They're bringing back the Saturn Vue and calling it a Chevy Captiva, and its only available to fleet buyers.

http://jesda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Chevy-Captiva-Rental-582x355.jpg

I don't get the point, but whatever. Maybe it keeps the plant in Mexico busy. Derp.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2011/03/chevy-to-launch-captiva-in-us-market-for-fleets-only/

http://jesda.com/2011/03/12/zombie-alert-saturn-is-back/

what are you talking about? it was never gone:
http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/cadillac/srx/2010/ns/2010_cadillac_srx_f34_ns_100710_717.jpg

Jesda
03-12-11, 12:06 PM
I've never seen a Camry rental either, but Toyota did increase its sales to fleet customers over the last couple years, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's more out there than before.

hueterm
03-12-11, 01:17 PM
I've seen quite a few of the current gen, and have rented previous generations on occasion. I avoid them like the plague, but they're out there...lurking...

ThumperPup
03-12-11, 01:19 PM
I've never seen a Camry rental either, but Toyota did increase its sales to fleet customers over the last couple years, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's more out there than before.

Went i returned the rental this week they had a Camry at Enterprise
first camry i ever saw as a rental also

The Tony Show
03-12-11, 01:40 PM
what are you talking about? it was never gone:


Yeah, you're totally right. Other than the fact it has a different wheelbase, suspension, engine, transmission, sheetmetal, glass, interior, switchgear, light housings, roof rails, side mirrors and wheels, that is.

Other than those minor differences though, totally accurate. :bigroll:

OffThaHorseCEO
03-12-11, 01:43 PM
dont be mad because i know everything

Aron9000
03-12-11, 02:31 PM
Seeing as how I drive a ton of rental cars at my job, there are way more import sedans being rented than there used to be. I'd say there is an equal ratio of Altimas, Camrys, Fusions, Sonotas, Sebrings, and Malibus in the rental fleets right now. There are still eleventy billion more impalas for rent though. Grand Marquis are real popular as well.

For smaller cars, the Nissan Sentra and Versa seem to be the most popular right now. Both of those cars are utter rubbish, and look almost exactly the same inside and out. Buying a Sentra is just a good way to overpay for a Versa IMO.

The Tony Show
03-12-11, 03:07 PM
dont be mad because i know everything

Don't worry.

OffThaHorseCEO
03-12-11, 03:27 PM
be happy?

Jesda
03-12-11, 08:15 PM
i lol'd

Technically, the Saab 9-4 and Cadillac SRX are on a hybrid Theta-Epsilon platform. I think the SRX/9-4 platform is lighter and uses a more sophisticated car-like suspension. I don't remember where I read that though.

thebigjimsho
03-12-11, 08:56 PM
I miss the Chevy Classic...


http://images04.olx.com/ui/2/61/19/25265219_1.jpg

Jesda
03-12-11, 09:22 PM
Its Klassy with a K

C&C
03-13-11, 04:59 AM
My daughter has a Saturn Vue (with 3.6L); pretty darn good vehicle. GM dumped Saturn just as they were getting good product back in the mix.

I've been a GM fan all my life but still get infuriated when GM rests on its laurels (lets a great car languish), people get dismayed (looks for a different brand) and GM wonders why they lost market share. Then (GM) produces another homerun (and repeat).

DouglasJRizzo
03-13-11, 09:10 AM
This is why after years of being a Cadillac guy, I'm trending Ford and will probably stay that way. Ugh...

hueterm
03-13-11, 11:48 AM
So is this version smaller and more efficient than the Equinox? If so, they should sell it to get their CAFE numbers down. And then maybe Cadillac can get some V8s back...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-13-11, 12:37 PM
Its Klassy with a K

I'd roll that up to the local K-Mart anyday.

drewsdeville
03-13-11, 01:14 PM
My daughter has a Saturn Vue (with 3.6L); pretty darn good vehicle. GM dumped Saturn just as they were getting good product back in the mix.


I wanted to say the same thing. My gf has relation in LaCrosse WI who makes their living on a farm, and they rely on a fleet of Saturns for the operation's many miles of commuting through the rural areas. One '90's S-series with 300k on it and two of these Vue's. All have been excellent vehicles for them, and it seemed like they were well priced for what you got. They don't really excel at anything, but they seem to be damn good vehicles for cheap and reliable transportation.

Sort of unrelated, but I really appreciated Saturn's plastic bodies, though much of the public didn't. That farm has a few pickup trucks that are quite a few years newer than the S-series, and they are rusted to pieces while the Saturn still looks quite presentable. I would actually really like to see someone else employ the idea.

Jesda
03-13-11, 02:37 PM
I liked the plastic bodies too. GM had a hard time making interesting looking shapes with them, but for the standard appearance of an economy car, they kept Saturns looking new and tidy.

Playdrv4me
03-13-11, 06:04 PM
So is this version smaller and more efficient than the Equinox? If so, they should sell it to get their CAFE numbers down. And then maybe Cadillac can get some V8s back...

The BPG dealer i got the Escalade from just got one of the Hybrid versions of the Saturn in their used inventory. If they brought that back it would be perfect for that.

Playdrv4me
03-13-11, 06:12 PM
I wanted to say the same thing. My gf has relation in LaCrosse WI who makes their living on a farm, and they rely on a fleet of Saturns for the operation's many miles of commuting through the rural areas. One '90's S-series with 300k on it and two of these Vue's. All have been excellent vehicles for them, and it seemed like they were well priced for what you got. They don't really excel at anything, but they seem to be damn good vehicles for cheap and reliable transportation.

Sort of unrelated, but I really appreciated Saturn's plastic bodies, though much of the public didn't. That farm has a few pickup trucks that are quite a few years newer than the S-series, and they are rusted to pieces while the Saturn still looks quite presentable. I would actually really like to see someone else employ the idea.

Quite a few luxury brands have snuck this by, actually, and in some surprising vehicles... The 90,000.00 2001-2006 CL500 and even more ridiculous CL600 had front fenders made entirely of plain old plastic. Old Devilles did too. I don't know of anyone making entire front to rear sheetmetal out of it (save for the Vettes fiberglass) though.

orconn
03-13-11, 07:20 PM
I have to say that I have been impressed with how well the plastic body panels on the Saturns have stood up. My neighbor in Great Falls had a old Saturn that was his D.C. commuter car. He'd get it cleaned up once a year, and I was amazed at how it always looked like a new car. The body cladding on the bottom sides of my Sevilles has really stood the test of time well too!

The-Dullahan
03-15-11, 01:19 AM
Wait...this is not what I came here for...

Stingroo
03-18-11, 10:07 AM
I'm pretty sure our 929's front fenders are plastic too.

Playdrv4me
03-19-11, 02:56 AM
I'm pretty sure our 929's front fenders are plastic too.

I forgot all about that 929 generation, I seem to recall that in the sales literature as well.