: New Cadillac ATS Spy Shots and Pictures



Lord Cadillac
03-10-11, 01:12 PM
New spy shots of the Cadillac ATS are available at http://www.cadillacats.com

This is believed to be the actual vehicle. More pictures are available at the Cadillac ATS site.

http://cadillacats.com/images/cadillac-ats-rear.jpg
http://cadillacats.com/images/cadillac-ats-passenger-side.jpg

Stingroo
03-10-11, 05:00 PM
Looks uh... white.

With black stuff.

Cool?

0AT E03
03-10-11, 08:02 PM
Wonder if I've been in that specific car...

concorso
03-10-11, 09:16 PM
Front overhang looks a little long, but its toon covered to have a good look! Proportions look ok so far!

bruff1977
03-12-11, 02:27 PM
Thanks LC for posting these. I just want GM to hurry up and get this out! But good things come to those who wait... Just a few items to discuss:

The caliper placement. Am I the only one who likes perfect horizontal placement of the calipers? The big rotors has me thinking this will stop on a dime though...
Looks like full HID headlights AND fogs... :-) Somewhat disappointed the side mirrors don't have indicators like the XTS... But that can be a production fix.
The crease in the rear fenders looks great, but some other shots it looks like it follows through across the front doors to the front fenders. Gotta love Art & Science...
Tight fit for rear passengers with that door...

I'm impressed. Can't wait to really see the front end. I could use an AWD with the turbo four as a daily driver...

Lord Cadillac
03-16-11, 11:33 AM
FYI - A new set of images has been added to the Cadillac ATS site:
http://cadillacats.com/cadillac-ats-spyshots.html

rand49er
03-18-11, 11:46 PM
I swear I saw one going southbound on US-23 about 5 miles south of the GM Proving Ground and about 10 miles north of Ann Arbor last Tuesday (3/15/11) early afternoon. It was white with the black camouflage treatment (different than the above pics, though) and of course manufacturer's plate on the back. It had that same sheet metal crease low along the sides like in the above pics. Traffic was moderately heavy, and it was in the left lane going faster than I wanted to go and of course I didn't have my regular camera and the phone camera is a PITA to use while driving.

0AT E03
03-19-11, 05:03 PM
I swear I saw one going southbound on US-23 about 5 miles south of the GM Proving Ground and about 10 miles north of Ann Arbor last Tuesday (3/15/11) early afternoon. It was white with the black camouflage treatment (different than the above pics, though) and of course manufacturer's plate on the back. It had that same sheet metal crease low along the sides like in the above pics. Traffic was moderately heavy, and it was in the left lane going faster than I wanted to go and of course I didn't have my regular camera and the phone camera is a PITA to use while driving.

Knowing where you live you'll catch one eventually!

concorso
03-30-11, 01:07 PM
perfect horizontal placement of the calipers?What cars have horizontal calipers?

Lord Cadillac
03-31-11, 07:17 AM
I know. It's not a lot.. This ATS prototype has had the camouflage taken off the rear door for testing purposes, and a few new details are visible. We can see a very sharp character line that slopes upward and an elegant chrome door handle. The true shape of the rear glass and cut line for the door are easy to see.

The grille on the ATS definitely looks a lot smaller/sleeker than the one we see on the CTS. I'm guessing this might carry on to the third generation CTS as well.

http://cadillacats.com/images/2013-cadillac-ats.jpg

0AT E03
04-01-11, 01:31 PM
Don't expect to see the rear door again, someone wasn't happy about these shots being taken to say the least.

Lord Cadillac
04-01-11, 05:36 PM
Since the car is still probably two years away, I can understand why...


Don't expect to see the rear door again, someone wasn't happy about these shots being taken to say the least.

Lord Cadillac
06-22-11, 12:20 PM
What you're probably looking at here is a Cadillac ATS...
http://cadillacats.com/images/cadillac-ats.jpg

ga_etc
06-22-11, 12:34 PM
Looks about Regal size. Let's hope it gets better engine choices.

Lord Cadillac
06-22-11, 12:37 PM
It absolutely, definitely will..


Looks about Regal size. Let's hope it gets better engine choices.

0AT E03
06-23-11, 09:57 AM
Someone is getting fired...

Stingroo
06-23-11, 10:17 AM
I spy old Z06 wheels?

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 10:38 AM
Yup Z06 wheels.. I think the rendition below is going to be very close. It was done a long time ago but it looks pretty accurate.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/dawgpics_photos/ATS_V/ATSSedan.jpg

Aron9000
06-23-11, 11:19 AM
I swear if this thing doesn't have more interior room and isn't quicker than my 1995 Fleetwood, I'm going to swear off newer Cadillacs for good.


EDIT:

Doh, thought we were talking about the larger, lamer, FWD XTS

The Tony Show
06-23-11, 12:36 PM
Looks like they got carried away trying to get the weight down- I'll bet the wind noise is going to be atrocious!

;)

js615
06-23-11, 12:40 PM
It appears to be carrying over a lot of lines from the CTS - will have to see in person, but doesn't look to bad to me.

The Tony Show
06-23-11, 12:42 PM
Kidding aside though, if that is the ATS I'm surprised they're going away from the round fuel door and taillights that wrap severely up onto the rear. Both would be subtle styling similarities with the CTS and SRX, and brands usually keep those things consistent.

If it is the ATS, I'd bet that means square fuel doors on the new CTS and XTS.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 01:32 PM
Looks like they got carried away trying to get the weight down- I'll bet the wind noise is going to be atrocious!

;)

Seriously. Talk about going "cheap". Maybe the doors will be optional.. I always say - options are nice to have...


Kidding aside though, if that is the ATS I'm surprised they're going away from the round fuel door and taillights that wrap severely up onto the rear. Both would be subtle styling similarities with the CTS and SRX, and brands usually keep those things consistent.

If it is the ATS, I'd bet that means square fuel doors on the new CTS and XTS.

I bet that's what's going to happen.. Square fuel doors on the CTS and XTS. If this isn't the ATS, what else would it be? Camaro? That looks a lot more like a Cadillac than a Chevy. So I'm still guessing it's a Cadillac we're seeing here.

JimmyH
06-23-11, 01:38 PM
a 4-door Camaro? surely ye jest.

JimmyH
06-23-11, 01:43 PM
Kidding aside though, if that is the ATS I'm surprised they're going away from the round fuel door and taillights that wrap severely up onto the rear. Both would be subtle styling similarities with the CTS and SRX, and brands usually keep those things consistent.

If it is the ATS, I'd bet that means square fuel doors on the new CTS and XTS.

I would think a round fuel door on a body crease, such as it is, would be too hard to line up correctly.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 02:02 PM
Of course. You never know, though. Chevy could be interested in a small four door RWD performance sedan. Still, I don't see this to be a Chevy. I think the only possibility for this car is ATS.


a 4-door Camaro? surely ye jest.

JimmyH
06-23-11, 02:07 PM
well, sure, why not? A 4-door Camaro might sell. If it looks good, I'd buy one. I still would rather have a sedan than a coupe.

Truth be told, if there is a Chevy version of the ATS-V, that is what I would gravitate towards. I want a great sport sedan, but I don't need all the luxury appointments. Nor do I really want to spend the money on them if I don't have to.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 02:09 PM
Well there's no official word of a Chevy on the Alpha platform but you never know. I don't see why Chevy wouldn't get a piece of the action.


well, sure, why not? A 4-door Camaro might sell. If it looks good, I'd buy one. I still would rather have a sedan than a coupe.

Truth be told, if there is a Chevy version of the ATS-V, that is what I would gravitate towards. I want a great sport sedan, but I don't need all the luxury appointments. Nor do I really want to spend the money on them if I don't have to.

JimmyH
06-23-11, 02:14 PM
I had read it was cancelled. You were the one that told me it was gonna happen. It will be interesting to see what Alpha all spawns.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 02:21 PM
That was a full-size RWD V8 Chevrolet...


I had read it was cancelled. You were the one that told me it was gonna happen. It will be interesting to see what Alpha all spawns.

Jailtime
06-23-11, 03:20 PM
If ATS looks anything like that rendition, I want one. Looks like a Cadillac, unlike that cookie cutter XTS.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 03:32 PM
It looks like there's a thin/little built-in rear spoiler...

Stingroo
06-23-11, 04:40 PM
I'm guessing you can only see that "lip" because the tail lights are missing.

Lord Cadillac
06-23-11, 07:13 PM
Could be but I also see it on the right side out the rear windshield... I really think that's a built in spoiler. I hope so because I'd like that.


I'm guessing you can only see that "lip" because the tail lights are missing.

ben.gators
06-23-11, 09:31 PM
I can see a 4-door CTS coupe..... And well, it is not as large as its ancestors, however I should say it "looks" attractive... I am waiting to hear about the engine and then I will have my final opinion about the car!

brothleutner
06-24-11, 01:04 AM
I can see a 4-door CTS coupe..... And well, it is not as large as its ancestors, however I should say it "looks" attractive... I am waiting to hear about the engine and then I will have my final opinion about the car!

No matter what they say, there is no such thing as a 4 door coupe. :D

Jesda
06-24-11, 07:15 AM
That looks more like the new Malibu, but the Malibu has a round fuel door, and of course the 'bu is a good bit longer.

The proportions look right for a RWD car.

Lord Cadillac
06-24-11, 11:04 AM
The CTS is growing in size - not shrinking..

dennis93coupe
06-25-11, 03:54 PM
You gotta be kidding....is this the new ATS ?? Scroll down half way...

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/12-concept-cars-headed-for-the-dealership.html

JimmyH
06-25-11, 07:18 PM
"The Urban Concept Cadillac shown at last year's L.A. Auto Show was a head fake."

Stingroo
06-26-11, 02:34 AM
That whole article is full of crap. If they think the Mazda 6 is going to turn into THAT?

Ha. They're funny.

JimmyH
06-26-11, 02:58 PM
Everything on the internet is true. Yup.

Lord Cadillac
06-27-11, 12:31 PM
I don't believe the Mazda6 is being sold in America anymore after this or next year.

The ATS will launch as a 2013 model with a four cylinder engine standard and a turbo four cylinder optional. As mentioned in the past - and from what I'm understanding - the ATS-V will be a twin turbo 3.0 liter V6 and not an LSx v8. It WILL be extremely competitive with the next TT v6 M3. As far as I know, I'm the only person on the internet so sure about this so I certainly could be wrong.

JimmyH
06-27-11, 02:14 PM
If they don't offer a V8 ATS-V, they will alienate some buyers for sure. Stubborn enthusiasts like me who will stick with the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger. Of course, they will also be embraced by the M3/G37 crowd, so I guess it's a trade-off. The solution would be to offer both a V8 and FIV6.

brothleutner
06-29-11, 12:05 AM
Top Gear is showing a M3 with 450 hp v8, granted it's a "special edition", but if Caddy is to do to the M3 with the ATSv what they did to the M5 with the CTSv, my vote is to just put the the CTSv engine in it. Does Caddy have a 450hp v6 in the works?

JimmyH
06-29-11, 01:55 AM
No way the lsa goes in the atsv. Considering the lfx is now almost 320 hp it will be no problem wringing 450 twin turbo horsepower out of it. But it still won't sound or feel like a v8. Won't have the torque curve or sweet simplicity either.

Lord Cadillac
06-29-11, 12:37 PM
This is for the current M3. Right? The next M3 will be a twin turbo V6. GM is having enough trouble making the ATS capable of handling the 3.0 liter twin turbo V6. I really don't think a V8 is going into this car...


Top Gear is showing a M3 with 450 hp v8, granted it's a "special edition", but if Caddy is to do to the M3 with the ATSv what they did to the M5 with the CTSv, my vote is to just put the the CTSv engine in it. Does Caddy have a 450hp v6 in the works?

Cadillac Tony
08-04-11, 11:25 AM
I thought you would.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n543/CadillacTony/6e3e9e53.jpg

Take a look at the length of the headlight sweep onto the front fender. :drool: Those of you who are a little sneaky might even be able to manipulate the gamma on this image to reveal a good look at the styling at the front and rear, also. :whistle:

Looking good.

Lord Cadillac
08-04-11, 12:24 PM
Thanks, Tony! You beat me to it.. I believe the redesigned CTS is planned shortly after the release of the ATS so hopefully the front and rear of this car is similar to whatever design language they'll be using...

Lord Cadillac
08-04-11, 12:32 PM
Take a look...
http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-images/cadillac-ats.jpg

OffThaHorseCEO
08-04-11, 12:55 PM
looks pretty good. is it me or is it about the size of the original cts?

Stingroo
08-04-11, 01:04 PM
How the heck did you do that, Sal?

JimmyH
08-04-11, 02:45 PM
I hate to say this, but I am not diggin it. Maybe I expected more.

Lord Cadillac
08-04-11, 03:13 PM
It probably is about the size of the original CTS - maybe a little smaller. I brightened the image several times to see the front end better. I'm not sure how much they can do with the sides, Jimmy. I think the front is going to look really nice and can only imagine with back will different from the current CTS. Those headlights do go way back into the hood/side and I think that'll look nice.

The Tony Show
08-04-11, 03:40 PM
Long hood/short deck = awesome proportions.

The Raven
08-04-11, 05:31 PM
Love it, except for those wheels. This promises to be a very successful car.

RippyPartsDept
08-04-11, 05:33 PM
saw that in the @cadillac twitter conversation with one of our members and the TopGear US fellas

orconn
08-04-11, 05:37 PM
"Long hood, short rear deck" is a great start. It looks to me to be about the size of the old (2002) C class or 3 series. Nothing wrong with that unless you are over 6 feet tall and 200 pounds! But then these are aimed at svelt young yuppies looking to get into an "executive" class automobile.

OffThaHorseCEO
08-04-11, 05:38 PM
it does remind me very much of a c class sedan, especially the front

RippyPartsDept
08-04-11, 05:56 PM
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6913/atsp.png

paint.NET ... auto-level adjustment ... very simple but nice!

RippyPartsDept
08-04-11, 05:57 PM
from what i can tell from messing with the levels in paint.NET it looks like that dark front grille section under the headlight and above the fog light was totally black... nothing there at all

JimmyH
08-04-11, 06:00 PM
"Long hood, short rear deck" is a great start. It looks to me to be about the size of the old (2002) C class or 3 series. Nothing wrong with that unless you are over 6 feet tall and 200 pounds! But then these are aimed at svelt young yuppies looking to get into an "executive" class automobile.

well, then that rules me all the way out :bouncy:

JimmyH
08-04-11, 06:17 PM
no fender porthole FTW

JimmyH
08-04-11, 06:59 PM
I kinda guessed at the front and rear bumper covers; but it doesn't look much different from the current CTS:

78614

maeng9981
08-04-11, 10:30 PM
Feel like it's similar to the first gen CTS.

MacMuse
08-04-11, 11:26 PM
nice comparison pics Jimmy - throw an 05/06 STS into the mix and I think you'll see more similarities.

Jesda
08-05-11, 12:56 AM
The round econocar roofline cheapens it. Too soft, too agreeable, and whats with the positioning of the door handles?

I hope it doesnt weigh 4000lbs.

Playdrv4me
08-05-11, 01:07 AM
Hmm...

thebigjimsho
08-05-11, 01:18 AM
I think the long hood looks awesome. And if they are bold and get those long, catlike headlights right, it can be a striking design. I think it's a nice mix of old CTS and new CTS in a smaller package. And, if it gets more entry level buyers into Cadillac, color me excited.

I think I'm going to go to Detroit again in January to see this and the XTS in person.

mberisha
08-05-11, 04:05 AM
The rims on the original pic give it a Mercedez look....still sharp though.....

93DevilleUSMC
08-05-11, 04:10 AM
Oh HELL yes!!! I want one, and I'll take mine in black.

brandondeleo
08-05-11, 05:34 AM
It looks just like the newer gen STS and CTS with touches of the Merc C class, and it would look much better if someone hadn't backed it under a guillotine. It is a nice car and all, but absolutely nothing monumental, in my opinion.

Ranger
08-05-11, 11:16 AM
It probably is about the size of the original CTS - maybe a little smaller.
That's enough to make me loose all interest.

JimmyH
08-05-11, 01:06 PM
I think I'm going to go to Detroit again in January to see this and the XTS in person.

Lemme know if you go. I might join you.


I actually like the roofline better than the CTS. It's the CTS's square jaw I don't much care for. But then, it's hard to know if that is actually the profile. There wasn't alot to work with in Cadillac's teaser photo.

0AT E03
08-05-11, 06:58 PM
That's enough to make me loose all interest.

You'd be interested in the next gen CTS then, which is a little larger than the current one in length and width.

The ATS backseat is small. I barely fit in it, and I'm 6'2" The car does drive like a bat out of hell though most of you should be impressed. I think they made it feel lighter than it actually is.

JimmyH
08-05-11, 07:54 PM
Fortunately they seem to be able to do that. My Camaro is almost 4000 lbs and doesn't feel that heavy. At least not on the street. Autocrossing it felt like a pig.

Lord Cadillac
08-05-11, 10:06 PM
I'll see you guys in Detroit as well.. As for the size, Cadillac needs this small car. This sized car is the biggest/busiest/most lucrative in the luxury segment. It would leave Cadillac at such a disadvantage to continue ignoring it.

JimmyH
08-05-11, 10:11 PM
you, me and bigjim? manstew part II...

Lord Cadillac
08-05-11, 10:13 PM
you, me and bigjim? manstew part II...

Yup. Maybe we can get a few more of us out there. If the ATS is going to be showcased, I'm sure we'll have a bunch of us...

0AT E03
08-06-11, 02:30 AM
I'll be there on Industry days as usual.

CIWS
08-06-11, 07:58 AM
I know this may sound biased, when it's really not meant to be, but that release picture looks like an Infiniti ad. :noidea:

mdscad
08-06-11, 11:44 AM
I like it, but..... it doesn't seem quite as "edgy" as the design we have in the current CTS. It looks "softer," closer to what almost everyone else is doing. I would prefer that Caddy keeps the "edge" throughout its lineup to set itself apart from the other manufacturers.

RippyPartsDept
08-06-11, 12:17 PM
i think the whole point of this teaser photo was to not really give anything away... sure they gave us some body lines and the side panels, but we still have no clue exactly what the front and rear will look like

the front (and the grille in particular) is really what is going to make this (or any) car stand out

the rear (tail lights, trunk design, spoiler, etc) isn't as important, but can really be the difference between a good design and a great design

... overall i'm excited to see the parts they left out of this tease

JimmyH
08-06-11, 01:28 PM
actually, I think the front and rear fascias make or break the whole design. The new Charger is a great example. It has nice lines, but the front and rear fascias are hideous.

RippyPartsDept
08-06-11, 01:30 PM
actually, I think the front and rear fascias make or break the whole design.

so we agree then... i just forgot to mention the fasicas when i mentioned the other front and rear parts that make or break a car's design

JimmyH
08-06-11, 01:42 PM
I hope they give it some kind of chin spoiler. The current CTS looks like it has an overbite.

JBsZ06
08-06-11, 02:05 PM
Great car! Can't wait for the official release!

bill57
08-06-11, 03:46 PM
Ok. We don't know what the front and rear look like, But the profile sure looks like a Honda Accord to me. Or like the other poster noted, an Infinity.

RippyPartsDept
08-06-11, 04:06 PM
so which one does it look like? the honda, or the infinity?

or the mercedes? or the bmw? ...

lots of cars look similar if you only go by the side profile (and not even the full side profile, just the middle 80%)

JimmyH
08-06-11, 04:29 PM
almost all cars out there today look the same as their competition. don't blame the manufacturers. blame the consumers, because that's what the vast majority of them want. they want an unassuming vehicle that blends in.

0AT E03
08-06-11, 04:50 PM
I hope they give it some kind of chin spoiler. The current CTS looks like it has an overbite.

Chin spoilers are practically on all new GM designs, you can probably expect one on the ATS. See the new 2013 Malibu for an idea of GM's typical chin spoiler.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Chevrolet-Malibu_2013_photo_04.jpg

amunderdog
08-06-11, 05:30 PM
That looks like a BMW with a Mercedes grill to me:(

JimmyH
08-06-11, 08:56 PM
I am not seeing BMW or mercedes in that malibu picture. Although, I think like the last Malibu, this new design is going to look stale in a few years.

RippyPartsDept
08-06-11, 09:53 PM
That looks like a BMW with a Mercedes grill to me:(

how does that look like a mercedes grille?

chevy has been using this split grille design for a long time and imho in the last few years it has really started to evolve into something that i really like and can get behind
(some are obviously better than others, but i really like this new front end/grille evolution that chevy's gotten in to lately)

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/chevrolet_100317926_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2011-chevrolet-equinox-fwd-4-door-lt-w-1lt-front-exterior-view_100328482_l.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2013-chevrolet-malibu-leaked_100346430_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2011-chevrolet-colorado-show-truck-concept_100344351_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/chevrolet_100309799_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/chevrolet-aveo_100321014_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2011-chevrolet-volt_100314755_m.jpg

JimmyH
08-06-11, 10:26 PM
I think the Cruze is the best execution of Chevy's current design language. Pictures just don't do the Cruze justice. It's much more attactive in person. Same with the CTS coupe. Maybe the ATS will be the same.

0AT E03
08-07-11, 12:40 AM
Sonic\Aveo has the chin spoiler too if you notice.

I think they are adding those for pedestrian standards in Europe.

JimmyH
08-07-11, 01:42 PM
I believe the space between the bumper and radiator is the pedestrian safety factor. I would guess the chin spoiler helps aerodynamics by cutting a little more air out from under the car.

jagowar
08-07-11, 01:48 PM
Looking forward to some real info about the car.... I was going to be getting trading in my old silverado for something a bit more fuel efficient and right now was set on the 2012 camaro but this car might get me to wait.

One of the biggest reasons I was considering the camaro was its bluetooth a2dp support (have a windows phone 7 with zunepass).... for some reason it was the only gm car I could find that supported that. Hopefully a brand new car in the would have the same support (because I would have chosen a cts over the camaro but bluetooth audio streaming was a killer for me).

Lord Cadillac
08-08-11, 12:44 PM
I think the basic design of the Cadillac ATS has been done for a long time now...

RippyPartsDept
08-08-11, 02:21 PM
yes... but the devil is in the details ... :devil:

JimmyH
08-08-11, 02:27 PM
Looking forward to some real info about the car.... I was going to be getting trading in my old silverado for something a bit more fuel efficient and right now was set on the 2012 camaro but this car might get me to wait.

One of the biggest reasons I was considering the camaro was its bluetooth a2dp support (have a windows phone 7 with zunepass).... for some reason it was the only gm car I could find that supported that. Hopefully a brand new car in the would have the same support (because I would have chosen a cts over the camaro but bluetooth audio streaming was a killer for me).

streaming audio is overrated. It sounds okay, but it will kill the battery life of your phone. And if you are going to plug it in for power, you might as well just use the usb connection. I have an old ipod plugged in that way in my camaro. It stays in the car all the time.

rand49er
08-08-11, 02:29 PM
If I ever sell my V1, this is what I'm going to get. Can't wait to see the powerplant for the ATS-V.




Lemme know if you go. I might join you. ...^^^ Yeah that.

thebigjimsho
08-08-11, 09:50 PM
That Malibu is dead sexayyy!

RippyPartsDept
08-08-11, 09:58 PM
yup
.

jagowar
08-08-11, 11:41 PM
streaming audio is overrated. It sounds okay, but it will kill the battery life of your phone. And if you are going to plug it in for power, you might as well just use the usb connection. I have an old ipod plugged in that way in my camaro. It stays in the car all the time.

I have been doing it for the past 6 months and it has had almost no impact on my battery life.... my phone still lasts 24 hrs of heavy usage. I would just keep using the fm transmitter but it kills the audio quality and I have to manually power the device on each time I start the car (it runs off its own battery) and no steeringwheel controls.... I basically want to keep using my a2dp but have something that's properly integrated and has better sound quality than the fm I currently use.

RippyPartsDept
08-08-11, 11:50 PM
i stream from the internet to my phone constantly (pandora on iphone) in the car... but i have to use a tape adapter to get it into the speakers

and battery isn't an issue (if i'm on a road trip i plug into the accessory outlet and stay charged anyway)

i totally want to do the aux mod, but just can't seem to get around to it

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-audio-video-security-systems/108708-auxiliary-input-seville-deville-catera-direct.html

will look like this
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/cadillac-seville-cadillac-eldorado-forum/46273d1228784381-ipod-aux-input-integration-complete-auxin.jpg

JimmyH
08-09-11, 12:01 AM
"my phone still lasts 24 hrs of heavy usage" They really have conditioned us to accept that. Before I had my iphone, I had a Sony Ericsson that I charged once a week. And I was using a2dp with that phone because my Parrot kit was the only way to get external music to my radio in my CTS. Before that it was more like 2 weeks. All this techno stuff has made my life too complicated :bouncy:

CadillacCastle
08-17-11, 11:39 AM
Take a look...
http://www.cadillacforums.com/cadillac-images/cadillac-ats.jpg It seems Cadillac is trying to make cars small as possible now. They could put a 4 cylinder motor in it and make the seats smaller then do away with the trunk and spare tire. It could then compete with the 8 foot long smart car. These new cars have got so small a lot of regular and large people have gone to SUVs to get something comfortable to ride in. Bring back the Fleetwoods, all of us are not migets.

Lord Cadillac
08-17-11, 12:22 PM
I know how you feel. Just keep in mind that the small car segment is THE LARGEST and most profitable, by far, in the luxury segment. If Cadillac continued to ignore it, they'll be left in the dust... It's cars like these that make all the money for companies like Mercedes and BMW...


It seems Cadillac is trying to make cars small as possible now. They could put a 4 cylinder motor in it and make the seats smaller then do away with the trunk and spare tire. It could then compete with the 8 foot long smart car. These new cars have got so small a lot of regular and large people have gone to SUVs to get something comfortable to ride in. Bring back the Fleetwoods, all of us are not migets.

JimmyH
08-17-11, 01:18 PM
They will keep getting more and more popular as gas keeps rising. You would be naive to think we are not staring down the barrel of $6/gal gas.

thebigjimsho
08-17-11, 08:34 PM
It seems Cadillac is trying to make cars small as possible now. They could put a 4 cylinder motor in it and make the seats smaller then do away with the trunk and spare tire. It could then compete with the 8 foot long smart car. These new cars have got so small a lot of regular and large people have gone to SUVs to get something comfortable to ride in. Bring back the Fleetwoods, all of us are not migets.Fleetwoods. haha. Funny.

chowser51
08-17-11, 10:00 PM
I think it's looks good, this might get me to come back to GM. I was hoping to get a new Camaro but there were none in 2006 so I ended up getting a BMW 325xi. As much as I love my BMW, I grew up a GM man and really want to get back. Seeing as how my car is paid off and I want something a little larger (got kids and I think the ATS is going to be a little bigger than the 3-series, closer to the 5) but definately wanting a RWD car. Not really concerned about the engine, as long as I get more than 21 mpg in the city (which is what I get now with my heavy car with AWD). I just hope they don't option this car into the 3-series price range. I'd like a decently loaded ATS with nav for $35k. (Yeah, I'm probably dreaming).

My wife has been with GM forever (currently drives an '08 Lacrosse) so she is happy that I might be returning. She is currently out of town for work and in a 2012 Lacrosse rental, she says it might be time to trade up.
Other than chaging a turn signal, we have had no issues with the Buick. Hoping GM quality is back.

thebigjimsho
08-18-11, 11:10 AM
It won't be bigger than the 3, closer to the 5. That's where the current CTS is now and that will grow to 5 series size with the next gen. The ATS will be 3 series sized. That's the point. As for pricing, I'm sure it will undercut the BMW. But I doubt by much...

JimmyH
08-18-11, 04:47 PM
Overall, it should be the same size as the 3. I am betting the front seat area will be larger though (for us large chassis-ed americans) and the back seat will probably be tiny.

caddyfat2
08-19-11, 11:53 AM
It seems Cadillac is trying to make cars small as possible now. They could put a 4 cylinder motor in it and make the seats smaller then do away with the trunk and spare tire. It could then compete with the 8 foot long smart car. These new cars have got so small a lot of regular and large people have gone to SUVs to get something comfortable to ride in. Bring back the Fleetwoods, all of us are not migets.
I know what you can do..... take the front drivers seat out and sit in the back seat and drive the car from there and it should be comfy as hell with plenty of room for you big boi's.

Lord Cadillac
09-12-11, 08:42 PM
For full-size pictures, click here (http://cadillacats.com/).

Lord Cadillac
09-12-11, 08:43 PM
...and a few more...

Lord Cadillac
09-14-11, 01:53 PM
I believe this is the ATS-V as I see a bulge in the hood. I'm guessing that would be reserved for the V-Series version...

Lord Cadillac
09-14-11, 04:19 PM
http://cadillacats.com/images/1.jpg
http://cadillacats.com/images/4.jpg
http://cadillacats.com/images/2.jpg
http://cadillacats.com/images/3.jpg

The Tony Show
09-14-11, 05:49 PM
I spy a lane departure camera in the upper windshield and an adaptive cruise lens in the grille. Awfully upmarket goodies for the new "entry level" car...

Lord Cadillac
09-14-11, 05:51 PM
I'm sure this car is going to be a hit. Even if they don't hit every mark.

0AT E03
09-14-11, 07:31 PM
ATS-V exists only on a computer right now.

This is more than likely the Turbo version of the regular ATS, but could be the V6. Both have the dual pipes. The "regular" 4 has one pipe.

Lord Cadillac
09-14-11, 08:12 PM
Good to know.. Thank you.. Whatever the twin turbo 3.0 goes into is going to be a hot seller...


ATS-V exists only on a computer right now.

This is more than likely the Turbo version of the regular ATS, but could be the V6. Both have the dual pipes. The "regular" 4 has one pipe.

0AT E03
09-15-11, 08:55 AM
By Turbo I was talking about a 4, not a 6. There is a Turbo 4 that's going into a lot of new GM cars (think of it as GM's answer to EcoBoost 4's)

Lord Cadillac
09-15-11, 10:40 AM
ATS-V exists only on a computer right now.

How sure are you about this?

0AT E03
09-15-11, 03:32 PM
100% sure, other programs are the "lead program" on the V-Series engine and they are not even at an IVER phase yet. The cars on the ring this week (which is where that shot was taken) are all initial model year "ATS" cars.

Anyone who tells you otherwise, is NOT in the know. Or is attempting to mislead.

Lord Cadillac
09-15-11, 07:34 PM
Good to know. Thank you! I'm anxious to see this car on showroom floors... I think it's going to be the best selling new model for Cadillac - ever.


100% sure, other programs are the "lead program" on the V-Series engine and they are not even at an IVER phase yet. The cars on the ring this week (which is where that shot was taken) are all initial model year "ATS" cars.

Anyone who tells you otherwise, is NOT in the know. Or is attempting to mislead.

JimmyH
09-18-11, 07:27 PM
From a cost standpoint, it would make sense to use the same hood across the lineup. All Camaros have a hood bulge. Put there from the start in anticipation of the ZL1 I am guessing.

Lord Cadillac
09-19-11, 07:27 PM
That's true but I think there needs to be some obvious differences between non-performance models and otherwise. The original ZR-1 wasn't different enough from the regular Corvette and that kinda hurt sales after the initial shock...


From a cost standpoint, it would make sense to use the same hood across the lineup. All Camaros have a hood bulge. Put there from the start in anticipation of the ZL1 I am guessing.

JimmyH
09-19-11, 08:05 PM
I am sure the ATS-V will have unique fascias like the other V series. But they should give the V series their own side skirts.

08SRX
10-21-11, 03:10 PM
Not very original. It will marginalize to CTS as did the STS. Can we at least get something cool like a 2.0L V8 twin-turbo with laser ignition?

JasonAZ
01-03-12, 09:32 PM
via GMI:

(http://www.cadillacats.com/forums/showthread.php?2761-New-Spy-Photos-of-Cadillac-ATS-sedan-revealing-more-than-ever)http://cadillacatsowners.com/cadillac-ats-forums/photo/album/2/cadillac-ats-spyshots/

LED lights looking good. No doubt it's a mini CTS judging by the overall shape.

thebigjimsho
01-03-12, 09:38 PM
Where?

rand49er
01-03-12, 11:10 PM
^^^ Yeah that.

0AT E03
01-03-12, 11:16 PM
YAWN.

You are not seeing 80% of the lights.

Lord Cadillac
01-04-12, 01:39 PM
Link fixed...

Lord Cadillac
01-04-12, 02:20 PM
Here's the latest batch of 2013 Cadillac ATS spyshots...

Lord Cadillac
01-04-12, 02:20 PM
...and a few more...

rand49er
01-04-12, 03:16 PM
Where?^^^ Yeah that ... again.

Lord Cadillac
01-04-12, 05:14 PM
^^^ Yeah that ... again.

Okay, try again... :o

JasonAZ
01-09-12, 09:17 AM
The wraps have come off on the ATS at the Detroit show

[link removed]

Looks better in these real life pics than the press photos that's for sure. :yup:

WillK
01-09-12, 10:20 AM
The space mucked up the link

Cuest
01-09-12, 10:26 AM
Link broken gets a 404.

Lord Cadillac
01-09-12, 12:34 PM
We don't link to them. They copy content from our site, fail to link back to site (as all webmasters know to do) and fail to respond to our efforts to reach out to them in regards. We'll get real images here shortly...

rand49er
01-10-12, 05:52 PM
The car has been introduced so these pics aren't noteworthy. It's funny, though, because these were taken maybe four miles from where I live. I travel that expressway quite often. It's about three miles south of the GM Proving Ground.

thebigjimsho
01-11-12, 12:39 PM
Quite snarky, Randy...