: gas mileage with the 4.5L



electricman
03-04-11, 11:24 AM
I have a '91 with the 4.5L and a '93 Eldo with the 4.9L. The Eldo gets 27MPG at cruise while the Allante and the 4.5 gets less mileage.

Here's the question: why the difference? The cam specs are the same, both use an OD trans, engines are similar xcept for the induction system, my Eldo uses sequential injection with a throttle body, speed/density system, whereas the Allante uses the mass-airflow system, I believe. Perhaps there may be a simple way to improve mileage on the 4.5? It CAN be done as evidenced with the 4.9.

Anyone ever look into it?

george

RobertISaar
03-04-11, 11:55 AM
i see no MAF in the PCM diagram for a 91 Allante...

electricman
03-04-11, 02:21 PM
I'll check my manuals tonite; the physical layout seems like it would be a MAF system.

In any case, what other reasons could there be for the difference in mileage?

George

carnut
03-05-11, 10:00 AM
Both are speed density. My first question is what mileage does the Allante get? Also the Allante final drive ratio is numerically higher. Whats the static timing? calls for 10 degrees, but they get better mileage at 12 degrees BTDC. Is the area in front of the throttle body butterflies perfectly clean? Whats the state of tune on the Allante? plugs, fuel filter cap/ rotor.

RobertISaar
03-05-11, 10:04 AM
i show a 93 4.9 eldorado as having a 2.97:1 FDR...
i show a 91 4.5 allante as having a 3.21:1 FDR...

carnut
03-05-11, 10:34 AM
Dare you go!! The Allante is running at a higher RPM at the same road speed as the 4.9.

electricman
03-05-11, 06:19 PM
Thanx guys.....My service manual and owners manual differ on the FDR on the Eldo, but a difference in the FDR would certainly account for the MPG difference.

George