: 2011 SRX "Luxury" headlights - high beams great but low beams TERRIBLE....anyone else



DoctorDave
03-02-11, 09:08 PM
I just leased the 2011 SRX "Luxury" package with extra Nav. and tow. The headlights are very disappointing to me. The high beams are great but low beams TERRIBLE....anyone else feel the same? Any advice? I wish I sprung for the fog lights just to get some extra light. I previously had the Enclave and the low lights were very good.

RippyPartsDept
03-02-11, 09:29 PM
have your dealer double check the headlight alignment... it's possible that they're aimed too far downward

mrl859
03-03-11, 04:15 AM
Also, please realize that they are not HID in the Luxury.

TRMN8R1
03-03-11, 08:10 AM
My observations as well, btw, for those of us who've never had HID's to benchmark against on previous or other vehicles, it shouldn't matter. What would have helped is that Cad would have included fogs as std equipment like it was on my previous three GMC vehicles, come on Cadillac, what's up with that? As PP suggested, next trip to dealer, have them check alignment, that's what I'm going to do.

skyoung
03-03-11, 10:14 AM
Exactly correct. I am terribly dissapointed with the same situation and truly feel that the low beams are so bad that they pose a danger to night driving. We just turned in our 2008 Acadia which had the HID lights, bright and powerful but the SRX Lux lows's are terrible. 2011 SRX Lux edition


Steve Young

DoctorDave
03-03-11, 01:14 PM
Glad I'm not alone. I will show this post to my dealer because they always have the ready response "well, we never heard that complaint from anyone else before". I think they are aimed correctly, and I am sure the dealer will say so, but will ask them to check.
skyoung - I agree, I literally felt unsafe, and even though it is leased, I considered adding fog lights. I'm quite pissed about this.

DoctorDave
03-03-11, 01:15 PM
Another question - does anyone know if these can be converted to HID and if so what would be the approx. cost?

Smokin' SRX
03-03-11, 01:49 PM
The Enclave had standard HID lights. Very strong. There is a difference! You get what you pay for and now after having them on the Enclave and current SRX, I had to go buy some aftermarket replacement bulbs for my 2011 Yukon! Standard halogen bulbs did not compare. Perhaps it's what you get used to??

Anyway P.I.A to change the bulbs.........adjusted some stuff under hood so next time I can do in 10 minutes per side, max. There are some threads here about what a big job it is to change the SRX headlite bulbs. I think Capt has done????
See post on adding HID's................

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-srx-second-generation-forum-2010/221224-aftermarket-hid-lights-base-luxury-models.html

I'd add FOG lites! 4 lights better than 2.

SS

DoctorDave
03-03-11, 04:36 PM
At dealer, dont bother, there is no aligment to be done. Halogens suck.

RippyPartsDept
03-03-11, 05:14 PM
you could switch out the bulbs for SilverStar Ultras or one of the other brands' high lumen output bulbs
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-deville-1985-2005-including-1985/219562-silverstar-ultra-headlight-bulbs.html

RippyPartsDept
03-03-11, 05:19 PM
also, converting halogen capsules to HID is illegal
(not to mention dangerous since the halogen capsule will spread the HID light in the eyes of oncoming traffic worse than high beams - which is why it's illegal)

skyoung
03-03-11, 10:20 PM
I went to my dealer and complained bitterly about the lousy low beams of my LUx model, he didn't seem to be bothered with my arguement even when I told him It was a serious issue with regard to safety. I think Cadillac has dropped the ball on this one. Our previous auto, an Acadia had HID's and what a difference. Driving lights, well they don't project out, just in front of the car so my gess Is I will try to get more powerful bulbs like PIA or better. Aside from this small complaint, both my wife and I love the car, it is great, especially now I put 20 " RSX wheels on it and big fatties, it looks real good. We also got the GPS opton. Dr Dave, I am a PA in the greater Seattle Area, Greetings

Cooper10
03-04-11, 09:39 AM
Simple solution for night driving on dark roads with my SRX Luxury Model.

I installed the following:
Replaced factory bulbs with Sylvania Silverstar H11 bulbs- Headlights still didnt light up the road until I added driving lights mounted on the lower grill below bumper.

Optronics Platinum Burner Series QH84CF driving lights with glass lens
5" wide x 2.3"high x 2.3"deep
H3 halogen bulbs
$19 at Walmart Auto Dept
very simple instalation

SRX now lights up dark roads with bright white light and no complaints from on coming traffic.

For some reason the Cadillac designers didnt use a wide beam projector headlight lens on the base and luxury model. They must of thought that senior citizens only drive during daylight hours.

bwclemons
03-04-11, 10:43 AM
I have aftermarket HID's installed on my Luxury model and the cut off line is exactly the same as the factory model. The reason people say the lights are illegal is because the lights are not auto leveling. If you keep your lights aimed this is not a problem. I have a thread in this forum that explains the mod. You can probally get a shop in your area to do the installation. Most shops doing radio installs, and other modifications will probally do the lights. You can also have the dealer do the fog light installation and add HID's to the fogs. This will help greatly if you don't want to go the aftermarket HID headlight route. I have to say, the factory halogens are terrible. This is the reason I changed my lights to HID's. All my other cars have HID"s and I couldn't live without them. I also have HID's in my fogs and the combination is unbelievable.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-srx-second-generation-forum-2010/221224-aftermarket-hid-lights-base-luxury-models.html

Cadillac Tony
03-04-11, 10:53 AM
I'm a big fan of Xenon headlights- there's a huge difference between them and halogens.

It's not super cost effective, but another option may be installing a GM Foglight package through your dealer. It uses the same exact parts as what comes on the Performance and Premium models, replacing the black plastic "blank" on your front bumpers. Cost installed should be less than $500.

SeniorX
03-04-11, 01:42 PM
I just leased the 2011 SRX "Luxury" package with extra Nav. and tow. The headlights are very disappointing to me. The high beams are great but low beams TERRIBLE....anyone else feel the same? Any advice? I wish I sprung for the fog lights just to get some extra light. I previously had the Enclave and the low lights were very good.

I changed out the H11 bulbs on my wife's SRX with the Philips Ultra Crystal Vision. There is a noticeable improvement in brightness.
Also did a DIY install on the foglights. My cost was $400 with dealer programming.

DoctorDave
03-04-11, 05:46 PM
I just checked Auto Zone who carries SilverStar and they are not compatible with 2011 SRX AWD Luxury.
MY dealer wanted $638 to install fog lites, I told him where he should install them.

DoctorDave
03-05-11, 03:47 PM
2011 has H10's not H11's.

DoctorDave
03-05-11, 03:48 PM
you could switch out the bulbs for SilverStar Ultras or one of the other brands' high lumen output bulbs
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-deville-1985-2005-including-1985/219562-silverstar-ultra-headlight-bulbs.html

they dont have H10's for the 2011

RippyPartsDept
03-05-11, 04:26 PM
2011 has H10's not H11's.
my parts catalog says that 2010 and 2011 both take an H11 bulb... that's all i have to go on -

DoctorDave
03-05-11, 11:04 PM
my parts catalog says that 2010 and 2011 both take an H11 bulb... that's all i have to go on -

that's interesting, my owners manual, which can also be found online, indicates bulb for 2011 SRX as H10, manual for 2010 indicates H11 as replacement. Went to an aftermarket radio/everything installer today and he was concerned about the projectors. He said he has had problems putting in brighter bulbs in projectors at times with poor results. He;s gonna research it and discuss with his supplier and someone he knows at Cadillac and get back to me by Tuesday.

RippyPartsDept
03-06-11, 09:03 PM
if I had a VIN for a 2011 SRX I could call up GM and verify ... it's very possible that my catalog has an error in it

Smokin' SRX
03-07-11, 12:32 AM
you could switch out the bulbs for SilverStar Ultras or one of the other brands' high lumen output bulbs
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-deville-1985-2005-including-1985/219562-silverstar-ultra-headlight-bulbs.html

Rippy, I agree and just did it on my new Yukon! Helped about 15%. But HID's it ain't! Very cheap to do ($35) Be advised that if you go to a even brighter Halogen bulb, ( I think they offer an Ultra Bright)the life span greatly shortens. Real pain on the SRX to change the bulbs!! Why??? Shoot the engineer on this one!!

I like the adding Fogs better.............4 vs 2 light outputs is better.

SS

SeniorX
03-08-11, 02:22 PM
that's interesting, my owners manual, which can also be found online, indicates bulb for 2011 SRX as H10, manual for 2010 indicates H11 as replacement. Went to an aftermarket radio/everything installer today and he was concerned about the projectors. He said he has had problems putting in brighter bulbs in projectors at times with poor results. He;s gonna research it and discuss with his supplier and someone he knows at Cadillac and get back to me by Tuesday.

The Low beams are H11s and the fog lights take H10s which I believe are 45 watt bulbs. H11s are 55 Watts.

cam30era
03-08-11, 03:02 PM
I personally would not use the owner's manual nor the dealer's parts catalog for determining what bulb to use. Both have been known in the past to occasionally have misprints.

The only reliable source of this information is your headlamps (or tail lamps, or fog lamps). And, NO you do not have to disassemble them to find this information. It is marked on the exterior lens, and this is required by Federal law. In the case of the SRX headlamp, the legal markings are laser etched along the bottom edge of the lens. First there is a long string of numbers that are not germain for this, then there is the marking "DOT" followed by "VOR", then the correct bulb designation will be next for halogen or HID. You can rely on this information to be correct. If it were wrong, the vehicle manufacturer would be required to recall the vehicle.

skyoung
03-16-11, 02:05 PM
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brendajm
03-18-11, 07:47 AM
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morven39
11-18-11, 03:18 PM
Just found this post. Did you use a power point under the hood or go through the firewall? I would like to add the QH84CF driving lights to my 2010 and would like to use a power point that is available only when driving. Appreciate any help.

inspectorudy
11-22-11, 12:45 AM
I just went to the Notto web site and got as much info as I could but they do not have the SRX info specifically available for down loading. I wanted to see what was involved to replace the Halogens but they used a rice rocket for their choice of demo car. It looks like you will need a place to stick the ballast and other than that it looks straight forward. I do not know anything about it being legal or not so if anyone does please let us know. Also if anyone installs this kit take a couple of pictures of the work. They listed a price of $99 for the entire kit and FREE shipping with a one year warranty.
Thanks

bwclemons
11-22-11, 10:02 AM
Read this information and look at the pictures on my photobucket although some of the pictures do not apply. The hid's you are looking at are the same type as I used but from a dirrerent company. http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ry-models.html (Aftermarket HID lights for Base and Luxury models) http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ss-lights.html (DIY removal of front bumper to access lights) http://s1082.photobucket.com/albums/...cpZZ1QQtppZZ20

morven39
11-27-11, 06:29 PM
Cooper10-- Please contact me concerning how you mounted the Optronics. I have purchased similar lights and would like to mount in approx same location but can't tell from the small picture how they were mounted. Also, if you could tell me the fuse location/number in the engine compartment for the low beam headlights I would appreciate it. The owners manual didn't help me. I want to hook them up so that they will only come on when low beams are on if possible. Any help appreciated.

Cooper10
11-27-11, 10:06 PM
Morven39,
I mounted the light brackets underneath the center section of the front bumper. The lights that I used fit flush at the lower plastic grill without protruding. I used small machine screws that came with the light kit. The light kit that I used did not come with a fog light relay. 20 amp lights draw too much to be wired directly with the on/off switch that was supplied.I purchased a fog light wiring kit which included the light relay for $12 on ebay.
The power wire with inline 20amp fuse went to the negative terminal of the battery. I will rewire power wire and use fuse #13 which is 20amps and used for the windshield washer. When I shut the engine off the lights will go out and I dont have to remember to shut
off the fog light swith.
I wont wire the lights directly to the headlight fuse, it may damage the light system on the car and may void the warranty.
Running wires to the dashboard was not an easy task.

Jonkarn
11-28-11, 01:37 PM
So the Luxury model only has your average halogen "yellowish blah" headlights? And the performance and Premium have Xenon? This is crazy that there is now Xenon in a 45K car. They force you to spend another 3k in order to get them in the performance? Regular headlights seriously downgrade visibility and the look of the car, making it seem cheaper. My wife's $24K Mazda 3 has Bi-Xenon headlights/high beams. How embarrassing!!

morven39
11-28-11, 03:27 PM
Cooper10,
Thanks. The best I can tell from the picture I saw, you mounted the lights to the under side of the painted bumper directly below the parking assist sensors. If this isn't the case, please let me know. I did a trial fitting of the lights that I bought and they fit in that location ok. Did you drill small holes to start the screws or is that necessary? Since you said that you also purchased a light relay, will it still be needed when you use the #13 fuse for power? I am leaving for the mountains soon and want to get the lights installed prior to leaving. Again, thanks for the help

Cooper10
11-28-11, 06:43 PM
Morven39,
I made small pilot holes on the underside of the bumper. You still need a light relay so the light switch doesnt overheat.Use one screw on the bracket so you can aim the driving lights straight ahead. Than use the other screw to lock in place. If you follow the angle of the bumper the lights shine on the road shoulders. I feel that the standard headlights are a safety concern at night time with this vehicle.
The Cadillac engineers never drove the base and luxury SRX at night time.

morven39
11-28-11, 07:35 PM
Cooper10,
Thanks for all the info. Will be trying to install the lights tomorrow.

morven39
11-30-11, 06:35 PM
Cooper10,
The lights I bought are Pilot NV504W which are 5"Wx1 1/2"Hx2 3/4D which are almost exactly the same size as the Optronics you installed. Walmart was out of the Optronics. They are the same width, not as high and are a very small amount deeper. They fit perfectly in the opening like you used, but I can't figure out how you got a tool in beside them to attach the lights after attaching the bracket in the opening. The little amount deeper isn't causing the problem, I just don't have a tool that will fit in the space on the side to hold the small bolt, attach, and tighten. I can't tell from the little photo whether your lights were installed as far back in the opening as possible so that they are almost even with the black grill across the front or installed where the lens is sticking out some from the grill.
I gave up for today due to the cold weather. Hope that you can tell me what I did not understand from your explanation concerning installation. They will look great in the location if there is a way to install the bolts.

Greg Franklin
12-02-11, 05:33 PM
My 2012 SRX Lux low beams are terrible too. Looking for a fix that will improve them and not entail taking the bumper off!

Cooper10
12-02-11, 06:47 PM
Morven39,
I used self tapping machine screws to mount the brackets under the bumper. Be careful not to overtighten.
The bumper is a thick plastic material. My lights are on for a year and I have no problems. On a dark interstate with the lowbeams, I can see the road ahead with no problems. The headlights still stink if your on a road with sodium vapor street lights. I have one year left on my lease and every month I count down when I can get rid of the SRX. My prior Land Rover HID headlights made night into daylight on the road.

Cooper10
12-03-11, 11:57 AM
I just did a seach on the NHTSA web site for vehicle complaints on www.safercars.com, I found a headlight complaint for a 2010 SRX that was filed on 1/15/2011, complaint # 10405415, failure mileage when reported was 100 miles. Dealer could not repair the problem and notified the factory of the issue. Text of complaint: TL* The contact owns a 2010 Cadillac SRX. The contact was driving approx 60 mph with the low beam headlight in activation however, they exhibited extremely poor lighting. The headlights failed to illuminate the entire road.

In 2010 Cadillac sold 54,000 SRX's and only 1 complaint with NHTSA ? No one that reads this forum is happy with the poor headlight illumination on the base and luxury models.

inspectorudy
12-04-11, 03:15 PM
I'm just curious and was wondering how much trouble is it to change the bulbs in the 2011 headlight?

Jonkarn
12-09-11, 09:51 AM
I'm a big fan of Xenon headlights- there's a huge difference between them and halogens.

It's not super cost effective, but another option may be installing a GM Foglight package through your dealer. It uses the same exact parts as what comes on the Performance and Premium models, replacing the black plastic "blank" on your front bumpers. Cost installed should be less than $500.

I'm picking up my new '12 Luxury and I will be having them install the fog lights after reading all the posts here, and just not liking the blank no fog light look. It's a 45K car, and not having fog lights standard make it look cheapened. They are charging me $500. To roll this cost into my lease would've come out to $615 overthe course of 36 months so I will be paying out of pocket. Found it curious that I would have to pay the full cost of the install considering that I will be turning the car in after 36 months. Figured the cost would be prorated since that's half the time of buying outright. Oh well will appreciate the look and performance enhancements.

Willo
12-09-11, 11:40 AM
Our SRX Luxury has the standard lights and we have no problems with low beam vision whatsoever under any conditions.

Eat more carrots before you get behind the wheel at night!