: 2011 Toyota Avalon



Lord Cadillac
02-26-11, 12:15 PM
I have to say, Toyota finally got the Avalon right.. It really is basically a Lexus. I haven't taken the car for a test drive (I only sat in it at the Chicago Auto Show) but I have to imagine it's a very smooth, quiet and comfortable car to drive. The leather doesn't feel cheap - which ruined the experience for me in every other Avalon. It actually feels expensive inside. For a car that's not supposed to attract a lot of attention - I think it looks pretty good. This car certainly raises the bar for it's class and will surely have the next Lexus ES working very hard to improve...

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2011_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2011_photo_09.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Toyota-Avalon_2011_photo_11.jpg

Florian
02-26-11, 12:42 PM
fugly....no thanks.


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orconn
02-26-11, 02:28 PM
Good old Toyota, no new leaf here, the new Avalon is the epitome of contemporary generic! Should please the cars current following no end!

thebigjimsho
02-26-11, 03:11 PM
They had a new one at the New York show last April. It had the word "PROTOTYPE" slathered across its windshield. They shouldn't have bothered. It looks almost exactly the same as the one it replaced. And while the interior may be better, the dash and upper door plastics still screamed cheap in a way GM hasn't lately...

ga_etc
02-26-11, 03:54 PM
Sal, I think it may be time to turn in your man card.

Jesda
02-26-11, 04:03 PM
Its an innocuous pile of car like the Lucerne.

ben.gators
02-26-11, 04:16 PM
I can see Camry and Lexus in this car.... The front and rear end is almost the Camry... and the middle part is Lexus. However interior looks nice

OffThaHorseCEO
02-26-11, 04:40 PM
is that driver side tail pipe hanging already? or is that just the angle of the photo playing tricks?

CIWS
02-26-11, 05:05 PM
I can see Camry and Lexus in this car.... The front and rear end is almost the Camry... and the middle part is Lexus. However interior looks nice

:yeah:

Jesda
02-26-11, 05:17 PM
The interior is better in pictures than it is in person. In person, its average.

ga_etc
02-26-11, 06:11 PM
I'm just very unimpressed with all of the new Toyota products and Honda products. Their older stuff is much more appealing to me.

Stingroo
02-26-11, 06:24 PM
Holy crap! It's....


the same exact shit that's on the road now?

Meh.

SDCaddyLacky
02-26-11, 07:25 PM
That interior does scream "Cheap" plastic! Toyota demographics are for people 50+ years old. Those pics easily show that.

They have become so conservative with everything they make nowadays. I remember how cool the old Supra's used to be, all the crap the company spits out, is a bunch crud for people that don't even like cars. It's totally obvious the people working for Toyota, don't care about styling or trying to appeal to a younger audience.

If anything the Kia Optima looks a lot better than any Toyo at the moment.

Honda isnt the same anymore either, but there designs beat out Toyota that's for sure. My favorite Honda's, are the Accords from the early 90's, the 94 Accord is my favorite, they were the last really cool sporty looking Accords, with a high quality interior. Those cars never had any problems, one of the most reliable Honda's ever made.

orconn
02-26-11, 08:36 PM
I don't get all the talk about Hondas having high quality interiors. My son had a brand new '97 Accord with cloth seating. It was put together decently, but the materials were certainly nothing to get excited about. Lots of plastic. The design was ergo metrically good (I got stuck driving the Honda occasionally while he spent a year at Edinburgh University, so I am pretty familiar with the car. I like Hondas in general and feel they delivered a good car for the money, although used prices for Hondas are insane. He didn't have any problems with this car, but he only had it for three years.

Aron9000
02-26-11, 08:51 PM
Our family has a 2000 Avalon, its been a great car. Has 200k on it right now, mom and dad still trust it enough to take on 1000 mile road trips. They were also looking at the Lexus ES300 when they bought this thing, at that time the Avalon was a much better car for the $$$. A lot more space, and the interior quality was pretty much on par with the Lexus, you just didn't get the fancy wood trim or gauges. Plus it was like $7500 cheaper at that time. If you can get over the boring styling and lack of low end torque, its actually a great driving, comfortable, well built car. Way better than a Buick Park Ave or LeSabre of similar vintage IMO.

As for the 2005+ models, I feel the interior got really chintzy on those with all that horrible silver painted plastic that Toyota loves to put in all their newer cars(the old cars had high quality black plastic or fake wood, no silver crap) If you could get over that, the 2005+ are great cars as well, the v6 in those straight up hauls the mail. 0-60 in 6.0 seconds, quarter mile in 14.6@99mph.

The new 2011 isn't really "new". Tweaked interior, different front and rear facia styling, that's about it. Doors, roofline, etc are all the same, along with the chassis, engine, etc. Haven't sat inside one yet, so I'm still witholding judgement as to if they actually fixed the silver plastic plauge of the last model.

77CDV
02-26-11, 11:51 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz





Huh, what? Oh, new Toyocrap. Bored now.





zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Destroyer
02-27-11, 12:27 AM
This "new" Avalon looks pretty much like a Hyundai that looks sorta like a Lexus that looks kinda like a Mercedes or BMW of a generation ago. This car does nothing for me, it will blend in well with the gazilliion other cars that look like it. I will continue to buy older cars that appeal to me. :thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-27-11, 10:54 AM
I've sat in various current generation Avalons, and I've always thought the same thing. "This is nice for a Toyota". Nothing that I'd drool over or buy, but nice enough I guess.

Playdrv4me
02-27-11, 02:22 PM
Lots of technology. Otherwise, undeniably Toyota.

Jesda
02-28-11, 08:19 AM
This segment seems to belong to Hyundai

Lord Cadillac
02-28-11, 01:44 PM
Sal, I think it may be time to turn in your man card.

I turned it in a long time ago. I have nothing left to give.


Its an innocuous pile of car like the Lucerne.

I'd much rather have the Avalon...


This car does nothing for me

It's only supposed to get you to where you're going comfortably...

hueterm
02-28-11, 02:17 PM
I'd rather have a Lucerne Super than an Avalon, but I'd probably rather have an Avalon vs. a V6 Lucerne...

Jesda
02-28-11, 02:38 PM
It's only supposed to get you to where you're going comfortably...

That's not enough to keep a car competitive though.

orconn
02-28-11, 03:19 PM
I turned it in a long time ago. I have nothing left to give.



I'd much rather have the Avalon...



It's only supposed to get you to where you're going comfortably...

I thought we were about "When you turn it on, does it turn you on" here!

Playdrv4me
02-28-11, 04:37 PM
I'd rather have a Lucerne Super than an Avalon, but I'd probably rather have an Avalon vs. a V6 Lucerne...

They're both completely unattractive blobules of car, so if forced to choose I'd take the Avalon as it's amenities blow the Lucerne out of the water.

On that note, I've yet to EVER see a Lucerne Super anywhere.

Amphibian
03-01-11, 01:35 PM
They're both completely unattractive blobules of car, so if forced to choose I'd take the Avalon as it's amenities blow the Lucerne out of the water.

On that note, I've yet to EVER see a Lucerne Super anywhere.

I agree. Between the two the Avalon blows the ultra-dated Lucerne out of the water in pretty much any area other than trunk space. The V-6 Avalon is rated for better mpg than either Lucerne engine yet it'll destroy either Northstar that the Lucerne offered since its inception. It's absolute win in comparison to a Lucerne.

But if I was buying a large car, neither of these two would be high on my list anyway. The new Ford, Chryslers, and Buick (LaCrosse) are much more my style.

Jesda
03-01-11, 05:34 PM
There are so many better cars on the market that offer equal comfort, better interiors, more appealing style, and better value than Avalon and Lucerne.

This car's purpose is to please loyal Toyota buyers who refuse to look at any other brands.

cadillac kevin
03-01-11, 10:48 PM
It's only supposed to get you to where you're going comfortably...
my old caddy gets me where I'm going comfortably. so does my old lesabre. both have 10x more style and are alot more comfortable than that japanese POS. If I'm paying 40k+ for a car, it better not blend in with every other car on the road. I want something that everyone will drool over as it rolls down the road.
IMO the passengers side of the avalon's dash looks nice (wood grain looks nice). the gauge cluster looks like the same one toyotas had for a long time (generic) and conflicts with the flow of the passengers side of the dash. both sides of the dash look like they're from seperate cars. I could design a better center console than that in my sleep- it looks like the touchscreen was a hastily slapped together afterthought. and the faux wood from the bottom of the entertainment stack to the console looks chintzy (this coming from a guy who has whole dashboards covered in fake wood and chrome and thinks massive analog clocks in the dash are cool)
the outside looks like most asian cars- they're a knockoff of another fancier asian car that is a blatant ripoff of a few european cars put in a blender together. (kinda like hyundai.) if I wanted a car that looked like a mismatch of parts from other manufacturers, I'd buy an AMC. now where'd I put my GM keys to my rambler? I need to go get a dart taillight for it.

Lord Cadillac
03-02-11, 05:08 PM
I'd rather have a Lucerne Super than an Avalon, but I'd probably rather have an Avalon vs. a V6 Lucerne...

I forgot all about the Lucerne Super. I do like the exterior...


That's not enough to keep a car competitive though.

Well, I think it's doing pretty well and serving a purpose.. If I wanted a new car that wasn't very expensive but got me around comfortably and quietly, the Avalon would be high on my list.


I thought we were about "When you turn it on, does it turn you on" here!

We are, but I like the Avalon...


They're both completely unattractive blobules of car, so if forced to choose I'd take the Avalon as it's amenities blow the Lucerne out of the water.

On that note, I've yet to EVER see a Lucerne Super anywhere.

I'm not sure I've ever seen one.

Jesda
03-02-11, 05:16 PM
Well, I think it's doing pretty well and serving a purpose..

So is Wonder Bread. :|

http://www.thesocialleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wonderbread.jpg

It sells well to the people who want it, but I can't say its even remotely interesting. At this point, we're talking about cars as commodities rather than objects of interest and desire.

I feel like I've stepped into a thread about plastic spoons.

Lord Cadillac
03-02-11, 05:37 PM
Wonder would be fine for me if I ate bread. However, I prefer that popular potato bread (I forget the name)...


So is Wonder Bread. :|

http://www.thesocialleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wonderbread.jpg

It sells well to the people who want it, but I can't say its even remotely interesting. At this point, we're talking about cars as commodities rather than objects of interest and desire.

I feel like I've stepped into a thread about plastic spoons.

Jesda
03-02-11, 05:40 PM
I'm a multigrain man. :cool:

thebigjimsho
03-03-11, 02:36 PM
ba-goo.