: 70s EFI Intake Manifold



emailer33
02-16-11, 07:22 PM
I'm trying to obtain an EFI manifold for my 500, and saw that in '75 and '76 some 500s came with an EFI manifold. Is this the same manifold I see on the 425's all the time? I'm curious if they're swappable or if I should keep looking for a specific 500 one.

BRUCE ROE
02-16-11, 10:05 PM
Yes the 425 use the same EFI intake and throttle body as a 500. So grab any one you can salvage, they are valuable. The injectors are about 49 lb/hr (blue) on the 500, 39 lb/hr (green) on the 425. The original EFI design was limited to a 50% duty cycle on the injectors, by the alternate bank injecting. So if your setup allows an 85% duty cycle (such as sequential port), the smaller 425 injectors are more than big enough for a 500. Be aware these are low impedance (peak & hold) injectors, not compatible with every EFI. I converted my Cad to sequential port injection, seen on PHOTOBUCKET. Lots of people have used this intake to upgrade 500s, esp the GMC motorhome people. Bruce Roe

DouglasJRizzo
02-17-11, 09:20 AM
Bruce Roe is right. Also keep in mind that the EFI on Sevilles was different from the EFI on the other cars.

emailer33
02-19-11, 11:16 PM
Thank you. I was considering grabbing a manifold and throttle body, and using more modern parts with everything else with a Megasquirt. So out of curiosity, what is different about a Seville?

drmenard
02-20-11, 02:42 AM
The seville has a Olds motor... If you are going to use The 425 intake and throttlebody you will need a 1981 368 EFI distrubtor.. this is the motor with the high odd shaped rockerarm covers .. this will work with modern computers for the control of timing... I have a 472 with a F/I intake with a 368 distrubtor run by a Haltech... I have done it , be glad to help if you have any questions...

dpayton79
07-12-12, 06:50 PM
I have a 66 coupe deville that I'm putting a 500 in. Found the complete fuel injection from a 1977 eldorado barritz with a 425 in it. I took everything except the dizzy now I realize i need that as mine is a little different upon further review. My question is Im not gonna us the stock computer but should I still get that distributor and will it work with my 500 and a after market system like megasquirt or as you suggested haltech

drmenard
07-12-12, 11:30 PM
If you are not going to use the stock ECM you don't want that distributor.. If you are going to use a aftermarket computer that will control the spark you will need a distributor out of a 1981 4-6-8 368cid motor .. also called a 6.0L... These motors have the big odd looking rocker arm covers...This is a bolt in part and will not need any converting...

BRUCE ROE
07-13-12, 01:33 AM
If you wanted to use the 425 EFI on a 500, you need the HEI, bigger (blue) 49 lb/hour
injectors, and a 76 ECU for a 500 car. If you started with that you would have a running
system, which could then be upgraded to something more modern.

The original 76 EFI used 2 batch injector cycles which couldn't overlap. This required
the bigger injector for the 500. However if you use a newer sequential injection, the
duty cycle may be increased to 85%, and your 1977 (green) 39 lb/hr injectors will be
all you need. Bruce Roe

dpayton79
07-20-12, 12:41 AM
So did it use the bigger injector to spray more fuel so it could sit there until the valve opened in the batch fire setup.Is this why the batch fire required bigger injectors? Am I understanding that basically the greens are to small and if used with the the 500 it would be fuel starved unless I cranked up the duty cycle on an after market sequential fire computer. Whats the difference between the 425 ecu and the 500 ecu? Thanks for all you help and p.s. I got the 77 dizzy before I saw this post and walked right by a 4-6-8 motor and was wondering what was up with the strange valve covers and the wires coming in them(had never seen one in person before) now I gotta run back out to the boneyard and buy it.

BRUCE ROE
07-20-12, 01:03 AM
The 425 and 500 ECUs are pretty similar, same pin out. But they are calibrated differently
to match the displacement and injector size. A 39 lb/hr injector needs to exceed 50% duty
cycle at maximum rpm, to fuel a 500. Bruce Roe