: The Impala won't be replaced until 2014.



Jesda
02-08-11, 05:52 AM
For ****'s sake. 2014.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/07/2012-chevy-impala-to-soldier-on-with-new-v6-replacement-delayed/

http://jesda.com/2011/02/08/why-does-the-impala-exist/


When discussing the current W-body Chevrolet Impala, the phrase "long-in-the tooth" is an understatement. And while Chevrolet's biggest retail sedan was scheduled to get a complete overhaul in 2013, a report from GMInsideNews states that the next Impala has now rescheduled for the 2014 model year.

In an effort to keep the elderly Impala passably fresh until its new Epsilon-based replacement arrives, General Motors is reportedly ready to outfit the big sedan with its 3.6-liter V6 engine mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. Both the current 3.5- and 3.9-liter V6 engines have been canned, and because of the W-body architecture, adding a six-speed automatic transmission to the existing engines would not have been feasible.

Sheesh.

Does anyone know anyone who actually bought one new?
Doesn't count if the person you know is named Bob Hertz, John Dollar, Mark Avis, Walter Budget, or Richard Enterprise (totally made up names, har har har).

DouglasJRizzo
02-08-11, 07:38 AM
the only time I've ever seen an Impala is either fleet or rental. or someone who bought it from a rental agency.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-08-11, 08:33 AM
We sold a fair amount of them at the Chevy dealer I worked at, but once the new Malibu came out, Impala sales dwindled.

EcSTSatic
02-08-11, 09:44 AM
I don't personally know anyone that has bought one. The Impala has been our favorite car to rent. Great value. Comfortable and a huge trunk, just not enough cupholders for passengers.

Stingroo
02-08-11, 10:00 AM
This is the Impala's response to you, Jesda:


http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4743710/problem.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Cool-Face

drewsdeville
02-08-11, 10:49 AM
^^^

http://www.funnyforumpics.com//forums/LOL/1/File0004204.JPG

hueterm
02-08-11, 11:01 AM
I don't really have a problem with the Impala functionally, considering its price...it's just so boring looking.

I'd still get one vs. a Malibu.

Stingroo
02-08-11, 11:03 AM
@ Drew :highfive:

drewsdeville
02-08-11, 11:10 AM
I don't really have a problem with the Impala functionally, considering its price...it's just so boring looking.

I'd still get one vs. a Malibu.

Wow really? Any particular reason?

When shopping for my gf's Malibu, I test drove an Impala just out of curiousity, though she wasn't interested. I must say, the Epsilon platform that the Malibu is on makes the Impala's (very aged) W-body feel like the turd on wheels it always has been. The Malibu's driving dynamics and ride quality are noticeably more enjoyable than the Impala. Even though the Impala is a bigger car externally, you really don't sacrifice much on the interior.

I thought it was easy to see exactly what Chad witnessed...when the Malibu was released, it didn't leave much for the Impala to chew on. The Malibu does everything the Impala does, but better.

hueterm
02-08-11, 11:22 AM
Size. A friend of mine has a Malibu and I have to contort my neck to get my head in past the roofline wrapping down the side of the car. It's also narrower, and while I like my friend, I don't need to be that close to him. I've never sat in the back of the Malibu, but the Impala looks to be bigger there too.

I've never driven the Malibu, but driving dynamics for what is basically an economical family sedan are not my top priority. Comfort and convenience are much more important to me.

ltdltc
02-08-11, 11:33 AM
A W-Body with the 3.6L by GM has already been done in the last generation Lacrosse.

I think the current generation Impala is a good looking car and it is a big car when comparing it to say a Lumina. Other then the ISS clunk its a farily nice car. The 3.5L is adequate and returns excellent MPGs.

drewsdeville
02-08-11, 11:35 AM
Yeah, not that either are race cars, but the Malibu feels far more stable and secure behind the wheel. It's quite noticeable when driving one right after the other. The Impala feels quite sloppy in comparison, especially in the ride.

ben.gators
02-08-11, 01:12 PM
Well, Indeed I can understand GM's policy. No argue about the dated design of Impala, or no argue about the fact that Impala is just a rental or fleet car now and no private buyer purchases a new Impala. But the fact is in business the marketing condition and demand is a very determinative factor. Right now rental companies, fire departments, police departments and other public or private organizations are buying Impala and it seems like there will be an steady demand for the car during next years. So there is no way GM wants to trash such a "successful model in sale" and discontinues it, as some people here and there are asking for discontinuation of Impala, Impala is here to stay, deal with it!
About the old design, yes Jesda, you are right, but the fact is since the current customers of Impala are rental companies and police departments and they seem to be happy with the car, why GM should spend and invest money in replacing the car? OK, you might say the updated version might attract more private buyers, but in that case Impala might share the same segment of market with Malibu and it will steal Malibu buyers. So overall, the number of private buyers of GM will not increase a lot, some of them will just immigrate from Malibu to Impala. So again, no gain in spending money for updating the Impala. GM is earning some easy money by selling Impala and why should GM stop it?

Jesda
02-08-11, 03:31 PM
This is the Impala's response to you, Jesda:


http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4743710/problem.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Cool-Face

:histeric::histeric::histeric:

gdwriter
02-08-11, 04:26 PM
We had a top-of-the-line Impala LTZ, complete with leather and a sunroof, in Hawaii over Christmas 2009. I rented a Malibu for a day in Honolulu, so it's easy to make side-by-side comparisons.

I much prefer the interior and exterior styling of the Malibu; the Impala looks dated, which it is. The Malibu was nicer to drive, although I had little opportunity to really wring it out. I drove the Impala over some back country roads on the Big Island, which included some twisting roads up and over mountains and ranch country. The Impala was competent, but not enthusiastic about being pushed. But for highway cruising, it was very comfortable, smooth and quiet, which is a priority for many drivers.

Unlike Drew, I did notice a significant difference in interior space. I'm 6-feet tall, 215 pounds, so I'm hardly little, and I fit fine in both. However, there were five of us on the Big Island, and except for my 20-year-old niece, we're all fairly tall, and he then-boyfriend is bigger than I am. We all fit, and it was reasonably comfortable the them in the bag seat, even with the driver's seat adjusted comfortably for me. And the huge trunk was a major bonus. My hard-shell golf case fit easily, where I've had to wedge it inside most rental cars (it would not fit, despite multiple attempts in a rental Saturn Aura, which is the same platform as the Malibu). So while the Malibu is a better car overall, the larger Impala does have a purpose.

What it needs is a contemporary platform. Since GM is building the Camaro, which is similar to the Aussie Zeta platform used on the G8, I don't see why production of a RWD Zeta-based Impala can't be done here. The G8 was well regarded and lamented with the death of Pontiac; I think had it been a new Impala from the beginning (or if GM had sold it as both a G8 and an Impala), it would have been a sales success. Here's an instance where badge engineering makes sense. Why let Chrysler have the large RWD market to itself?

orconn
02-08-11, 05:06 PM
Hey, if Ford can get away with producing the Crown Vic and the TC ad nauseam for fleet and law enforcement applications I don't see any thing wrong with GM doing the same for the now venerable Impala. As long as they can make a profit doing it!

Jesda
02-08-11, 05:15 PM
From a cost perspective, its fantastic. From a marketing and long term branding perspective, its poison. The 1983 A-body was sold as the Olds Cutlass and Buick Century as late as 1996.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/vehicle-pictures/1996/buick/century/95121211991004-480.jpg

drewsdeville
02-08-11, 05:24 PM
Hey, if Ford can get away with producing the Crown Vic and the TC ad nauseam for fleet and law enforcement applications I don't see any thing wrong with GM doing the same for the now venerable Impala. As long as they can make a profit doing it!

And that is what it really comes down to. Unfortunately, Ford had shown us all that it's damn near impossible to generate profit from a fleet-only platform, thus the panther's death.

Playdrv4me
02-08-11, 07:08 PM
Introducing the 2011... 2012, and 2013 Mediocrity.

cadillac kevin
02-08-11, 09:08 PM
From a cost perspective, its fantastic. From a marketing and long term branding perspective, its poison. The 1983 A-body was sold as the Olds Cutlass and Buick Century as late as 1996.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/vehicle-pictures/1996/buick/century/95121211991004-480.jpg

I actually like the early 90's A body. they werent spectacular, but they would hold their own (in everything but styling.)
my dad had a 91 cutlass wagon. it was actually a very good car despite the fact that most of the A bodies were fleet (wood grain helped the styling though :P ).
it would do a sub 8 second 0-60 and it handled great and got 20 mpg in the city constantly when driven normally (27 mpg highway at 70mph). unfortunately it died a harsh death- dad drove through the side of a 1980's cougar at 40mph (and I do mean through- the side of the cougar was pushed in past the front wheel)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-08-11, 10:32 PM
I swear the biggest buyer of the Impala is the fleet/rental companies.

ben.gators
02-08-11, 11:02 PM
^
Wow, really? :D

drewsdeville
02-08-11, 11:09 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Heavensword/picard-facepalm.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-09-11, 12:26 AM
Other obvious statements:

That picture is overplayed.

Aron9000
02-09-11, 12:28 AM
^^^
http://static.divbyzero.nl/facepalm/doublefacepalm.jpg

ben.gators
02-09-11, 12:55 AM
^
OK, let me third that :D
http://files.sharenator.com/181148_triple_facepalm_super_RE_The_most_awesome_t hing_u_will_ever_see-s600x480-89034.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-09-11, 12:59 AM
This thread has gotten lamer than the Impala.

Jesda
02-09-11, 01:27 AM
http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.6657982.1.flat,550x550,075,f.impala-ram.jpg