: No Rain Sense for 2011 GM vehicles except some SRX's



smiley47
02-06-11, 11:47 AM
I was recently told that GM had eliminated the Rain Sense wiper feature on all 2011 models except the SRX (all but the base model) and that it will likely be totally eliminated for 2012. I went to the Caddy and GMC "Build Your Own" websites and sure enough, only intermittent wipers are available. Can you imagine spending $70K for an Escalade and not having Rain Sense? I think it's a great convenience and mine has worked flawlessly. It seems like a p*ss poor management decision to save a few bucks. It would be one thing if we never had it but to delete it seems ludicrous.

digital1021
02-06-11, 09:13 PM
While I can't speak for the SRX, both the CTS and Escalade lost the Rain-sense wipers after the 2009 model year. The change was do to losing the supplier. The Rain-sense wipers were continued in the DTS, STS, and SRX. I would assume that, since the STS and DTS are gone after the 2011 model year, it would leave the SRX as the only Cadillac that comes equipped with Rain-sense wipers until the next generation CTS, ATS, XTS, and so on come to market. If Cadillac was going to remove Rain-sense entirely from there products, they would most likely not debuted in the 2010 SRX. I could be wrong... but this is my understanding....

~ Matt

maeng9981
02-06-11, 09:40 PM
I loved the rain-sense windshield wipers on my Cadillacs, they worked great and they never gave me any trouble using while it rains/snows. I want it for my another future Cadillac.....

TheCaptain
02-06-11, 11:32 PM
You know, looking forward to using this feature... i actually have it off way more then i have it on. Well, at least until it rains. Then i turn it on. :D

jcarlilesiu
02-07-11, 12:30 PM
Maybe I am the only one that has issues.

I have found the rain sense wipers to not always work well.

Sometimes, when its lightly snowing or misting, the wipers never turn on. I have tested it, drove around almost unable to see out of the car, and they never activitated. I had to touch the dial on the stalk and twist it to get them to go.

Then other times, there is barely anything on the windshield and they go over and over.

We took a trip down to florida from chicago last year. Bright sunny day, sensativity set to about mid-level. All of the sudden, they wipe once. Me and the wife were like WTF, and found it funny.

I pawned it off as a technology that wasn't perfect. Am I the only one that has these issues?

stevec5375
02-07-11, 12:43 PM
Maybe I am the only one that has issues.

I have found the rain sense wipers to not always work well.

Sometimes, when its lightly snowing or misting, the wipers never turn on. I have tested it, drove around almost unable to see out of the car, and they never activitated. I had to touch the dial on the stalk and twist it to get them to go.

Then other times, there is barely anything on the windshield and they go over and over.

We took a trip down to florida from chicago last year. Bright sunny day, sensativity set to about mid-level. All of the sudden, they wipe once. Me and the wife were like WTF, and found it funny.

I pawned it off as a technology that wasn't perfect. Am I the only one that has these issues?

I think the sensor is in the area of the mirror mount that covers the windshield. It could have been a bug going splat on that area and you would not be able to see it.

maeng9981
02-07-11, 05:55 PM
Rainsense might get triggered by bugs or flying road debris like mentioned, and I think you are supposed to turn rainsense off when it is not rainy. Don't the headlights always come on when the rainsense is activated?

sube5186
02-07-11, 09:07 PM
Rainsense might get triggered by bugs or flying road debris like mentioned, and I think you are supposed to turn rainsense off when it is not rainy. Don't the headlights always come on when the rainsense is activated?

This is the reason I keep it turned off unless it's raining. Any moisture striking the windshield could activate it. E.g. Going under an overpass that's dripping rain from the previous day. If it wipes when the windshield is dry and there's some grit on it, the windshield could be scratched.

Headlights turn on when wipers are on in any mode. This is law in many states. It's a good design that may even save you a ticket.


Sube

SomeGuyNamedJay
02-07-11, 09:20 PM
I have this feature on my 2003 BMW 3 series and it works very well nearly 100% of the time when it is rainy or snowy. It NEVER turns on when there is no water on the windshield.

I am reading here that their is ONE vendor??? How did they lose them?

It is such a nice feature. Bring it back.

Smokin' SRX
02-09-11, 01:57 PM
Venders go out of business all the time, in industry. GM lost the Heated Windshield Washers 2 years ago when the vender folded, after a Recall said that it could cause an under- hood fire. We loved ours!Supplier went bankrupt.

Another reason is folks NOT buying domestic cars, sales dropping across the board and smaller, niche suppliers go belly up. Hint, hint.

Sorry Jay, couldn't resist feeding my pet -peeve........ it's a beast! LOL No flame, please!

SS

stevec5375
02-09-11, 03:14 PM
Venders go out of business all the time, in industry. GM lost the Heated Windshield Washers 2 years ago when the vender folded, after a Recall said that it could cause an under- hood fire. We loved ours!Supplier went bankrupt.

Another reason is folks NOT buying domestic cars, sales dropping across the board and smaller, niche suppliers go belly up. Hint, hint.

Sorry Jay, couldn't resist feeding my pet -peeve........ it's a beast! LOL No flame, please!

SS


Why do you think people aren't buying domestic cars?

PJ1520
02-09-11, 05:10 PM
SMOKIN.........I think you may have that wrong. The January 2011 domestic manufacturer car sales were strong year over year (versus 1/2010) and followed a strong December to boot. Ford and GM led the pack accompanied by healthy gross profit margins. What surprised me is that the particularly poor January weather much of the country experienced should have muted the numbers. I seem to recall Ford expected an 18% increase year over year.........now I need to go back and check what I have posted off the top of my head. I'll be back.

PJ

rsm540
02-15-11, 09:42 PM
Curiously, the build sheet for my '11 CTS (delivered 2/11/11) states that "rainsense windshield wipers" were included as part of option code Y40.

vasya100
09-08-12, 03:58 PM
i've just bought a 11 CTS 3,6 AWD here in Moscow, Russia and was VERY surprised that there is no rain sense wipers. Funny, that the specification attached to my purchase agreement with the dealer says that they are included. That is a real issue, I really liked how the rainsense worked on my 08 CTS. We have rain/snow 6 months a year. Does anyone know if I can detach it from 08 CTS and install on 11 CTS? I haven't sold my 08 car yet and will take it off if it will work on the new one. Thanks for help!!!

300:29:1
09-08-12, 04:57 PM
Venders go out of business all the time, in industry. GM lost the Heated Windshield Washers 2 years ago when the vender folded, after a Recall said that it could cause an under- hood fire. We loved ours!Supplier went bankrupt.

Another reason is folks NOT buying domestic cars, sales dropping across the board and smaller, niche suppliers go belly up. Hint, hint.

Sorry Jay, couldn't resist feeding my pet -peeve........ it's a beast! LOL No flame, please!

SS
BMW has heated washers front and rear (where applicable) for many years. They work well and are nice to have in cold climates. I can't figure out why GM can't match this on high end vehicles. As to the rain sense, how does BMW maintain them across the line, while GM is on and off? Makes no sense.

inspectorudy
09-09-12, 08:34 AM
If the rain sensor issue is anything like other issues that cost money but do not make money then the bean counters will eliminate them. Remember it is the goal of a big corporation to make a profit and sometimes the bean counters are not too bright when it comes to customer loyalty. It appears that GM has a supply chain that does not include certain suppliers that supply other car manufacturers. Things like backup cameras and GPS units that actually work for you instead of the other way around. GM has been innovative in many products but like all big corporations they favor certain suppliers. I flew for National Airlines that was bought by Pan Am in the early eighties and we had a big meeting of all departments and who the they bought from and how much they paid for each items. We discovered that Pan Am was paying twice as much as National for many of the same items. Guess what was at play here? KICKBACKS! I'm not saying that is at play here but it is something to look at. There is also the old "Not invented here" mentality that pervades many corporations. Let's hope for GM's sake that it is just poor business practice. BTW my auto wipers have always functioned perfectly.

embassy
09-10-12, 05:01 PM
This is from the 2013 specs that were posted on here recently:

"Rainsense automatic windshield wipers are standard on Luxury, Performance and Premium Collections".

GGMiv
09-10-12, 07:18 PM
I have rainsense on my 2011 luxury model.

allgm
09-10-12, 07:45 PM
My freinds 2012 also has rainsense Luxury. Misinformation out there. Case closed 2010 thur 2013 have it for sure

mm9351
09-15-12, 07:40 PM
While I can't speak for the SRX, both the CTS and Escalade lost the Rain-sense wipers after the 2009 model year. The change was do to losing the supplier. The Rain-sense wipers were continued in the DTS, STS, and SRX. I would assume that, since the STS and DTS are gone after the 2011 model year, it would leave the SRX as the only Cadillac that comes equipped with Rain-sense wipers until the next generation CTS, ATS, XTS, and so on come to market. If Cadillac was going to remove Rain-sense entirely from there products, they would most likely not debuted in the 2010 SRX. I could be wrong... but this is my understanding....

~ Matt

I was at the Caddy dealer today checking out the new ATS and XTS, both of which have the Rain Sense wiper system. It is now part of a package called "Driver Awareness" which includes lane departure, safety seat alert, and fwd collision system. It is not available on the ATS base, but optional on luxury, and standard on the premium and performance trim levels. I think Cadillac must continue to offer Rain Sense because it is "expected" at this level.

Appears that GM is playing games with option packages, some that are only available at higher trims. For example, I was disappointed to learn that the "blind spot" monitoring system is part of another package called "Driver Assist." Surprisingly, blind spot monitoring is a "standard" feature on the Buick Verano which starts at about $23K, at less than half the price.

wow11
07-29-13, 10:36 PM
I heard that the rainsense sensor boards were unavail. because of the Fukishima earthquake. They have just recently come back to full production.
Also, to the couple complaining that their rainsense wipers turned on once during a dry day. If you read the owners manual, you will see that is supposed to happen after a long period of inactivity. The manual suggests you turn off the feature unless its misting or raining

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Can someone respond to the question of: Can you retrofit a 2011 CTS with a rainsense sensor? Is the wiring and plug still there?