: So, you guys freezing?



Jesda
02-01-11, 08:53 PM
Floridians... feel free to troll the thread. :p

21F right now, which isn't too bad but the windchill is awful. Its going to dip down to -2F tomorrow night.

I guess I've developed a taste for cold weather with winter biking and my annual drives to Washington every December (except this year). The snow isn't that bad here in St Louis, but everywhere 10-20 miles north or west of me got hit with two feet PLUS ice underneath. Here in STL we got a half inch of ice with a few inches of snow on top.

Because of the ice that arrived yesterday, despite the modest amount of snow today, its pretty dangerous to be on the roads tonight. I-70 is shut down from Kansas City all the way to west St Louis.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030354.jpg
Yep, Blockbuster's still open here.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030356.jpg
Walked over this little mountain of snow to get to the gas station.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030357.jpg
Every shop was dead except for people in H2s, H3s, and Jeeps. Even AWD crossovers weren't on the road tonight.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030358.jpg
The wind is really the most brutal part.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030359.jpg
New neighbor has a Maserati. DC plates. Their townhome must be a corporate lease. Looks like I need to befriend them.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030360.jpg
Ducky and the Seville shivering outside in the carport.


http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_P1030361.jpg
Home.

The snow that you see here is a lot like pavement. Despite being 4-6 inches deep in some spots, your foot only digs in a quarter to a half an inch because its frozen solid underneath.

hueterm
02-01-11, 08:59 PM
WOW...they closed I-70 between Independence and Wentzville (basically KC and STL)...I guess it did get really bad up there.

Jesda, the wind is going to knock that hand truck over and break your window.

Then we will all laugh at you...

Ranger
02-01-11, 09:11 PM
Freezing? Hell no. Snow is an insulator and we'll be up to our asses in it by morning.

Jesda
02-01-11, 09:12 PM
That's the window for Tim's room. Hopefully he'll get glass in his eyes.

Stingroo
02-01-11, 09:31 PM
Comfortable as hell here. 68 degrees, no wind, no rain. If I had some cash, this would be the perfect time to go for an aimless drive somewhere and discover a restaurant.

Oh well, it'll be like this for weeks. :)

gary88
02-01-11, 09:34 PM
I've been listening to 30-40mph gusts for the past four or so hours. For the first time ever I've actually seen snow fall up. Tomorrow will be interesting.

dkozloski
02-01-11, 09:46 PM
Present temp is a very pleasent +15F. I just took the garbage out and it feels like shirt-sleeve weather to me. My dogs are enjoying a romp in the snow.

Sevillian273
02-01-11, 09:51 PM
72 degrees out right now with rain in the forecast for tomorrow. Boo. If it wasnt for all the automotive treachery the winter months bring in the north, I'd envy you guys.

Road salt, hard starts, and no traction = FAIL

Cold, snow, and fireplaces = WIN!

ted tcb
02-01-11, 09:54 PM
Way up here in central Ontario, we've just gone through morning lows of -25, or if you prefer, -35 with
windchill.
Way too cold.
Its now a balmy -15, and we're waiting for about a foot of snow overnight with heavy winds.

Sure am glad I don't commute very far ... my car spends 15 minutes warming up for a 10 minute commute:)

On a side note, all three of my cars have dedicated snow tires and steelies.
The sticky rubber compound work so much better on the frozen, hard packed surfaces we get around here.

Submariner409
02-01-11, 09:57 PM
Cloudy, foggy, and 35 degrees. Rain later - looks like your mess is going west of us for a change. ?? 37 degrees tomorrow, rain. Look at Accuweather.com radar.

Playdrv4me
02-01-11, 10:19 PM
Present temp is a very pleasent +15F. I just took the garbage out and it feels like shirt-sleeve weather to me. My dogs are enjoying a romp in the snow.

You smug bastard. That's the overnight low here tonight... in SOUTH TEXAS!.

Still, after all the time I spent in this garbage in the Midwestern states, I don't even wear a jacket in sunny 30* weather here while everyone else is bundled up.

drewsdeville
02-01-11, 10:21 PM
Road salt, hard starts, and no traction = FAIL

Cold, snow, and fireplaces = WIN!

Road salt? Sure, I agree with you there. Messy stuff.

Hard starts? Where at? Is this 1950? :P Any properly running FI car should start in -20 degrees the same as 80 degrees. I know mine do.

No traction? Don't run into that much. However, low traction is lots of fun in empty snow-covered parking lots :) (remember, most of us don't own a V-series that have enough power to have fun on dry pavement)

Ranger
02-01-11, 10:28 PM
You smug bastard. That's the overnight low here tonight... in SOUTH TEXAS!.

Still, after all the time I spent in this garbage in the Midwestern states, I don't even wear a jacket in sunny 30* weather here while everyone else is bundled up.

Haven't you realized by now that everything in Alaska is bigger, badder or better?

ben.gators
02-01-11, 10:35 PM
That Maserati needs a garage....

dkozloski
02-01-11, 10:37 PM
Now there is a perceptive man. We are rapidly overshadowing Texans as the kings of BS.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-01-11, 11:07 PM
Welcome to my hell. It's 1* out now, with lows tonight in the -5* range. Windchills in the -15* range. The worst I've seen this year was -18* two weeks ago, with a -35* windchill.




Hard starts? Where at? Is this 1950? :P Any properly running FI car should start in -20 degrees the same as 80 degrees. I know mine do.

Hmmm, ever think about all the more work your battery has to do when it's that cold out? I know both my port fuel injected cars took a little more juice to get started when it's below zero.

Jesda
02-01-11, 11:07 PM
A few more inches fell since creating the thread, and fortunately its coming down as snow now instead of ice.

Chicago probably got the worst of it though.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-01-11, 11:10 PM
I can only hope Chicago doesn't see anything like this the weekend of the meet.

E3DaMeX
02-01-11, 11:12 PM
Located in PA and it's been pretty rough the past few weeks. Haven't been driving too much because of that unless necessary.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-01-11, 11:18 PM
We got probably 4-6 inches over the last couple of days, which is totally normal for us up here. The biggest problem with that is traffic and diminished driving conditions.

orconn
02-01-11, 11:34 PM
Having endured, and I do mean "endured," -35 degrees (no windchill factor in those days) in Madison, WI in the mid-sixties and the cold and the ice in Chicago during the same Winters, I don't envy those of you who are enduring this cold now. Of course insulation and two or three pane glass also helps a lot! I remember ice building up on the windows 1/2 inch thick, and that was on the inside of the windows. I've never experience anyplace colder than Madison during those Winters. Even good old Hokkaido, Japan, much of which was north of Vladivostok, and on the same latitude as Milwaukee, got much below 15 degrees. But Sapporo really got the snow!

Hope the weather moderates soon for all you northern Mid Westerners!!

hueterm
02-01-11, 11:37 PM
I can only hope Chicago doesn't see anything like this the weekend of the meet.


If it does, you guys have fun...

Stingroo
02-01-11, 11:43 PM
http://www.quranandscience.com/images/stories/palm_tree_2.jpg

u jelly, Northern folk?

thebigjimsho
02-01-11, 11:54 PM
I'm enjoying the snow and while it's been cold, it hasn't been too windy and it's very comfortable.

Aron9000
02-02-11, 12:38 AM
Man its crazy how bad the weather in St. Louis is, and its not that far from Nashville. We just got a lot of rain today, windy, and maybe a little dusting of snow by mid-morning tommorrow. Although its been a rough winter for us southerners here, TDOT(TN Dept of Transportation) ran out of road salt, and is three times over the budget for snow removal already. Kids missed an entire WEEK of school back in mid January because of the snow.

ga_etc
02-02-11, 12:43 AM
Nothing here but rain and temps in the mid 30s to mid 40s. Supposed to get colder as the week progresses though.

If things don't improve for Chicago my ass will stay south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Y'all will just have to come to Atlanta this summer or something.

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 05:44 AM
Hmmm, ever think about all the more work your battery has to do when it's that cold out? I know both my port fuel injected cars took a little more juice to get started when it's below zero.


Oh sure, but a slightly slower crank isn't what I'd call a "hard start"...

My rough '66 Dodge with a carb'd (hacked up and improperly tuned by previous owner) 318 and manual choke is quite cold blooded, however. Certainly a great example of a hard starting vehicle in the winter.

Jesda
02-02-11, 06:30 AM
If it gets cold enough your oil and other fluids will be more reluctant to move, but it'll get going eventually.

Usually my winter non-starts have been caused by batteries that didn't present any symptoms until temps dropped.

Sevillian273
02-02-11, 06:38 AM
Ok, if you want to split hairs

Road salt, Hard CRANKS, and LOW traction. Still = FAIL

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 09:04 AM
Usually my winter non-starts have been caused by batteries that didn't present any symptoms until temps dropped.

Same yeah.

The days of endless cranking and pumping are long gone...at least for those driving cars newer than 20 years or so.

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 09:15 AM
After it's all said and done, the totals here aren't really earthshattering at 15", but the drifting is quite impressive. 4-5ft drifts everywhere. When I opened my front door, there was a wall of snow at waist height in front of me.

Cadillacs buried:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8892/dsc00402d.jpg
Large drifts. Notice the drifts in comparison to the door handle on the shed:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3522/dsc00403ee.jpg
One from my Aunt about 10 miles away:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs050.snc6/168092_1292687853397_1716300177_528488_2937569_n.j pg
And one from a friend, 10 miles in another direction:
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gary88
02-02-11, 11:15 AM
Here's downtown Chicago right now, still snowing like crazy. It's really just eerie being outside at the moment. Gonna go out and take more shots in a few hours.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5364/img6572.jpg

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http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6386/img6576kn.jpg

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Ranger
02-02-11, 11:51 AM
I can only hope Chicago doesn't see anything like this the weekend of the meet.

I wouldn't worry about that. This is #3 in ranking of the worst in Chicago history, surpassed only by 1999 and 1967.

I've got what appears to be about 2' in the driveway. Waiting for the plows to come through before I start digging out. Pics later.

Stingroo
02-02-11, 12:46 PM
Overcast 72 degrees here.


Ba-da-ba-ba-baaa - I'm lovin' it.

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 12:48 PM
After:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5183/dsc00406o.jpg

Stingroo
02-02-11, 12:53 PM
I notice a severe lack of palm trees in your photograph, sir.

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 01:02 PM
Oh, sorry.

Here you go, you can feast your eyes on this beauty all day if you want:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4397524430_735591e64d.jpg

:P

gdwriter
02-02-11, 01:08 PM
27 at my house this morning; thermometer in the Seville said 32 most of the drive to work. But the sun is still out and skies are clear. I'll take some cold if it means sun; always a bonus in an Oregon winter.

Ranger
02-02-11, 04:17 PM
Thank God for snow blowers.


EDIT:
Lost the pics. They're in post #56 now.

donwon
02-02-11, 04:55 PM
Right now it is 53 outside and 70 inside.
Suppose to get colder as the week goes on. No snow forcasted for us yet.
When I was younger I liked the colder weather but now 70 year round would be ideal for me.
Our town shuts down at the mention of snow. The schools were closed for a week in Jan. because of snow.
My wife even mentioned heading for the Florida Keys week before last then she and the rest of the family got sick
so I hope she has forgotton a trip for the time being.

orconn
02-02-11, 05:05 PM
Right now it is 53 outside and 70 inside.
Suppose to get colder as the week goes on. No snow forcasted for us yet.
When I was younger I liked the colder weather but now 70 year round would be ideal for me.
Our town shuts down at the mention of snow. The schools were closed for a week in Jan. because of snow.
My wife even mentioned heading for the Florida Keys week before last then she and the rest of the family got sick
so I hope she has forgotton a trip for the time being.

Where do you live?

ben.gators
02-02-11, 05:13 PM
This morning, when I turned on the car, I saw this massage on my dashboard: "Ice Possible", and this is my first time that I encounter this massage!
It is really cold, even here in Arizona!

gary88
02-02-11, 05:18 PM
Just got back from taking more pics.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2984/img6584n.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/img6584n.jpg/)

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gary88
02-02-11, 05:19 PM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3078/img6754c.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/img6754c.jpg/)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1776/img6760.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/i/img6760.jpg/)

Jesda
02-02-11, 05:24 PM
Aww poor E34

ben.gators
02-02-11, 05:24 PM
^
These pictures should be very horrifying for Chicago's mayor! :D So far one Chicago mayor has lost his job because of snow and the current mayor does not like to second it! :D

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 05:33 PM
Mayor* :)

When I see "mayer" all I can think of is:
http://www.sonicscoop.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/John-Mayer.jpg

:vomit:

ben.gators
02-02-11, 05:50 PM
oops, my bad! :D I don't know why I typed the first mayor "mayer"... :D

gary88
02-02-11, 05:58 PM
Looked outside and it was like this over the lake for about 15 seconds, gone now.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/721/img6769o.jpg

donwon
02-02-11, 06:46 PM
Where do you live?
Sorry , I thougt it was in my sig line.
I live in northwestern South Carolina.

Sevillian273
02-02-11, 06:55 PM
What the heck is that shimmering blob?

hueterm
02-02-11, 06:57 PM
Aww poor E34


Poor Gary, for being out in the cold for that long...

hueterm
02-02-11, 06:59 PM
This morning, when I turned on the car, I saw this massage on my dashboard: "Ice Possible", and this is my first time that I encounter this massage!
It is really cold, even here in Arizona!


Ice would be rather uncomfortable during a massage...

:bouncy:

96Fleetwood
02-02-11, 07:04 PM
I was up in Deerfield for a conference and had to stop at a Courtyard hotel and spend the night.. there was almost zero visibility after 7pm last night. The Denali was a champ and kept me safe.

gary88
02-02-11, 09:00 PM
Poor Gary, for being out in the cold for that long...

The cold, she does not phase me.

Ranger
02-02-11, 09:37 PM
Thank God for snow blowers.

drewsdeville
02-02-11, 09:39 PM
Looked outside and it was like this over the lake for about 15 seconds, gone now.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/721/img6769o.jpg

THAT is pretty cool. The contrast against the dark sky makes it seem unreal. You can tell the picture doesn't come close to doing it justice.

iametarq
02-02-11, 11:12 PM
Let me just say I am downright pissed off that here in Northern Michigan we have had the same 12" of snow for the last 2 months, and nothing more. I should have sold the snow blower. I wanted that damn blizzard to come this way and hit us. :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

I haven't seen anything shutdown since 2007 up here.

The bay is finally starting to freeze, but that means an end to any chance of lake effect snow, unless it comes from the 'big lake'.

I love snow.

thebigjimsho
02-02-11, 11:34 PM
Let me just say I am downright pissed off that here in Northern Michigan we have had the same 12" of snow for the last 2 months, and nothing more. I should have sold the snow blower. I wanted that damn blizzard to come this way and hit us. :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

I haven't seen anything shutdown since 2007 up here.

The bay is finally starting to freeze, but that means an end to any chance of lake effect snow, unless it comes from the 'big lake'.

I love snow.
If you're not in the UP, are you really in Northern Michigan? My grandfather came from Mass City. Although, I did really like Good Hart and I'd love to have a summer home there...

Playdrv4me
02-03-11, 12:29 AM
Overcast 72 degrees here.


Ba-da-ba-ba-baaa - I'm lovin' it.

Ehhh... I dunno, until very recently (with some colder recent FL winters) I was actually beginning to tire of the droll of constant warmth through the entire Winter in Tampa. It's juuuust about right here, we get these occasional last huffs and puffs of cold that start way up north and it's actually kinda cool for a little seasonal contrast, but without all the baggage of snow and ice.

Still, FL, and especially northern FL has been almost the same the past couple years, with some pretty damn cold temps over there on at least a few occasions. I distinctly remember one year it was somehow the same temp or slightly WARMER in STL than it was in Tampa.

An occasional chill is like nature's Icee.

RippyPartsDept
02-03-11, 01:06 AM
Yeah it hit 70 today in Wilmington, NC... what a nice break from the 40s and 50s temps we've been having recently!

iametarq
02-03-11, 08:06 AM
If you're not in the UP, are you really in Northern Michigan? My grandfather came from Mass City. Although, I did really like Good Hart and I'd love to have a summer home there...

No, that's just "the U.P." :) whole different ball game. We're only 30 minutes from the bridge. I usually refer to our area as "Northern Lower Michigan, but some people forget that MI has an upper peninsula that I don't spend enough time in! But we are hardly "southern michigan". Most people consider you in "northern michigan" after you're past the 45th parallel.

Good Heart is great, there were homes for sale there when we were looking for a house, but no high speed internet, which I'm required to have for work. But we go up there to the general store once in a while during summer.

RippyPartsDept
02-03-11, 08:45 AM
my friend from the Traverse City area calls it the LP (lower peninsula)

thebigjimsho
02-03-11, 09:06 AM
No, that's just "the U.P." :) whole different ball game. We're only 30 minutes from the bridge. I usually refer to our area as "Northern Lower Michigan, but some people forget that MI has an upper peninsula that I don't spend enough time in! But we are hardly "southern michigan". Most people consider you in "northern michigan" after you're past the 45th parallel.

Good Heart is great, there were homes for sale there when we were looking for a house, but no high speed internet, which I'm required to have for work. But we go up there to the general store once in a while during summer.
That's cool.

We had an SHO National Convention in Kalamazoo in '07. I stayed the following weekend since I had a track day at Putnam Park in Indiana on Monday. On Saturday I took the day to drive along the western coast up to the Mackinac Bridge and just over to touch the UP and then back down I-75. It was a great day of driving. And while I love the sunrises on the East Coast, I am jealous of sunsets on the West Coast. I drove through Good Hart right at sunset and I was in love.

There were some gorgeous houses on the lake. And when I looked at property values, I was salivating. Houses like that on the water in New England would be nearing, or over, 7 figures. To see houses like that in the 3s and 4s was amazing. And that's in '07. I imagine they would be more affordable now.

thebigjimsho
02-03-11, 09:10 AM
my friend from the Traverse City area calls it the LP (lower peninsula)
Everyone there knows it's UP and LP. But the UP is quite literally a different world. So most in the LP differentiate themselves geographically in a way that doesn't include the UP...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-03-11, 11:41 PM
My buddy Brandon got a job in December at a local city doing public works. He gets to drive these around all day.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/2011-01-21_13-46-37_147.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/2011-01-21_13-47-18_841.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/2011-01-21_13-47-41_11.jpg

I love my job, but this is something I've wanted to do since I was a boy.

77CDV
02-04-11, 02:11 AM
Seeing all those pics and the news footage from Lake Shore Drive, all I can say is, y'all have fun in Chicago next weekend! I'll be parked out in Palm Springs, where it should be quite nice, indeed (at least during the day).

dkozloski
02-04-11, 03:23 PM
A good friend of mine was plowing deep snow with a large snowblower where some kids were playing. A couple of them had dug themselves a snow cave alongside the road and the guy went through it with the snowblower. The kids went through the blower and my friend has never been the same since. Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.

Submariner409
02-04-11, 04:00 PM
The cold, she does not phase me.

phase - or faze ??? :sneaky:

.....kind of like "I'll give you a piece of my mind so that I may have peace of mind."

RippyPartsDept
02-04-11, 04:18 PM
phase - or faze ??? :sneaky:

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/19/128952007898306606.jpg

:cool2:

Jesda
02-04-11, 04:21 PM
Set fazers to kill

thebigjimsho
02-04-11, 04:44 PM
R.I.P. Foge Fazio.

Submariner409
02-04-11, 06:44 PM
Set fazers to kill

"Phasors" in STspeak

gary88
02-05-11, 09:45 PM
phase - or faze ??? :sneaky:

.....kind of like "I'll give you a piece of my mind so that I may have peace of mind."

Well damn, I'm usually careful about schoolboy errors like that. There goes my record :duck:

I'm in the suburbs for the day today so I got some pics of what it's like here.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8938/img6794e.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/img6794e.jpg/)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6405/img6807b.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/img6807b.jpg/)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3862/img6808g.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/img6808g.jpg/)

Spyder
02-06-11, 11:19 AM
74 degrees yesterday. Expecting 72 today...

Submariner409
02-06-11, 12:08 PM
Lovely Kent Island is a sloppy, thawing, muddy, 35 degree mess. Remnants of that damn calcium chloride snowmelter all over the roads. Semi rig goes down Rt. 50 at 65 and leaves a cloud of fine chloride dust - just what your car and engine need.

drewsdeville
02-06-11, 12:23 PM
50 at 65 and leaves a cloud of fine chloride dust - just what your car and engine need.

Actually, when helping someone shop for a car up here where they use salt, I find it hard to recommend highway cars. "Highway miles" are generally coveted everywhere you go, but it's not exactly smart to seek them out. Sure, it might be a little easier on the drivetrain, but when you are spending most of your time flying 70mph down the freeway, which is basically a salt dust wind storm, it gets in EVERYTHING. It's amazing what rusts out on a highway car, and how quickly it can happen.

As far as hwy vs city miles, you can't save a rust bucket even with a pristine drivetrain that had an easy life. Transmission and brake replacements on a worthy rust free vehicle really aren't anything terrible.

EChas3
02-06-11, 05:15 PM
More snow here. Sub-zero in a few days.

77CDV
02-06-11, 10:45 PM
Delightful 79* here today. A little cooler tomorrow, probably in the lower 70s.

Aron9000
02-08-11, 12:27 AM
Actually, when helping someone shop for a car up here where they use salt, I find it hard to recommend highway cars. "Highway miles" are generally coveted everywhere you go, but it's not exactly smart to seek them out. Sure, it might be a little easier on the drivetrain, but when you are spending most of your time flying 70mph down the freeway, which is basically a salt dust wind storm, it gets in EVERYTHING. It's amazing what rusts out on a highway car, and how quickly it can happen.

As far as hwy vs city miles, you can't save a rust bucket even with a pristine drivetrain that had an easy life. Transmission and brake replacements on a worthy rust free vehicle really aren't anything terrible.

So glad I live in the south!!! My $650 pos Toyota truck doesn't have a speck of rust on it, and it probably hasn't been washed in at least 10 years. I'm sure this rig would've been sent to the scrapper 5-10 years ago if it had lived up north.