: Maintenance and lubricant recommendations



mstrjon32
01-25-11, 02:08 AM
I've got about another two weeks before I put the V on the boat and ship it overseas. Before I drop it off, I'd like to do a full battery of fluid changes and maintenance so that she'll be good to go when it comes off the boat on the other side, and fluids and parts cost 4x or more and are much harder to find.

I'm looking for recommendations for fluids and maintenance items:

Oil: Mobil 1 EP with a M1-206 filter
Coolant: Prestone Dexcool (I guess coolant is coolant, right?)
Brake Fluid: No idea what to use here...
Clutch Fluid: No idea what to use here either...
Transmission: Mobil 1 Dexron III ATF
Rear End: Mobil 1 75W-90. Do I need a separate LS additive?
Power Steering Fluid: Need a recommendation here, too.

Am I forgetting any fluids? Headlight fluid, maybe? :hmm: I'm happy to take recommendations for fluid types other than M1, I'm not married to it, but it's convenient to buy and I've never had a problem with it before. Really I need to know what to use for the Brake/Clutch/PS systems.

I'm also going to replace the engine air filter, cabin air filter, and the fuel filter. I don't think there are any other filters that need to be replaced, but again, I'm not totally sure. I'll also silicone the weatherstripping, and lubricate the hinges. I think she will also be getting a thorough cleaning of the interior, and maybe the exterior if I can work up the energy to deal with it in the cold weather.

Also, any one have any tips for washing down the engine bay? With my Jeep I usually just cover the distributor and then hose it down, and have never really had any problems. I've washed the engines in electronic ignition cars I've owned in the past without covering anything, but was just wondering if the V had any "soft" spots. It would be pretty annoying if I washed it down and had a problem, considering I wash the engine in my much older Jeep on a pretty much bi-weekly basis and have never had an issue.

Also, if there are any other maintenance items I'm forgetting, or pseudo-"maintenance" (should I just replace the motor mounts now, even though they're fine?) please let me know. It's an '06 with 35K miles.

repenttokyo
01-25-11, 11:53 AM
Brake fluid, I use ATE Super Blue. I also use that as clutch fluid.

Transmission fluid: AMSOIL Torque Drive Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Product Code ATD1G
Meets GM Dexron III standards

For the Differential: AMSOIL Severe Gear 75w90 (Product SVGQT), 1 tube Slip Lock Additive (Product ADATB)

C66Racing can hook you up with great prices and service on AMSOIL lubricants, through the board.

Andringa
01-25-11, 12:16 PM
I have the same combination that repenttokyo just listed, except I didn't use the Slip Lock Addititive.

C66 Racing
01-25-11, 08:02 PM
I used AMSOIL throughout my 06 CTS-V, which was my daily driver for 3 years before I had to let it go when I moved to DC. But, since you have listed engine, tranny and diff fluids, I won't offer my suggestions there unless you're interested.

Covering the areas you have questions, AMSOIL recommends this for your brakes:
AMSOIL Series 500 High Performance DOT 3 Brake Fluid (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Specialty%20Products/BF3PB.htm) (Product Code BF3SN)
Dry Boiling Point - 525F, Wet Boiling Point - 313F
This for the clutch:
AMSOIL Series 600 DOT 4 Racing Brake Fluid (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Specialty%20Products/BF4PB.htm) (Product Code BF4SN)
Dry Boiling Point - 580F, Wet Boiling Point - 410F
And this for the power steering:
AMSOIL Synthetic Power Steering Fluid (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Specialty%20Products/PSFPB.htm) (Product Code PSFCN)

Note that I use the DOT4 in both my brakes and my clutch in my Vette which only sees track duty along with the power steering fluid listed above.

Depending on how long it will sit, you might consider something like this:
AMSOIL Gasoline Stabilizer (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/ASTPB.htm)

If you are interested in any of this stuff, I'd be happy to get you dealer wholesale pricing, about 25% off, via the AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Preferredcustomer.htm). Drop me a PM if interested.
:cheers:

RippyPartsDept
01-25-11, 08:29 PM
Dextron III will be hard to find since GM has replaced it with Dextron IV (synthetic version of III I think) - IV can be used in place of III (but not the other way around)

I would recommend DOT4 fluids for clutch and brakes also

I wouldn't wash the engine bay down... sure clean up the engine bay covers but don't spray any water in there... too much risk

one thing to check is th front bushing on the diff... (front upper passenger side i think) ... it's a round rubber mount with a metal sheath ... often the rubber deteriorates and/or cracks

i'm sure there's other stuff to check too, others will hopefully mention

mstrjon32
01-26-11, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

I will check the bushings on the diffs. I'm on the fence about getting the Gforce axles before I leave, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to take the plunge on the UUC shifter and bushings.

C66: Let me know what your recommendations are for the other fluids as well. I'm probably going to use the M1 EP as engine oil because I already have it, but I'd be willing to try something else (presumably Amsoil) for the other fluids. I haven't bought any of that stuff yet. If you can get me 25% off and get it shipped in a reasonably quick amount of time, I might just take the plunge and go all Amsoil. Everybody seems to love the stuff, anyway.

Also, the car is going to be out of my possession for about 8 to 10 weeks, so I don't really think I need any gas stabilizer. It also has to be shipped with an almost empty tank, so it should be a non-issue. Also, I'll probably wash down the engine anyway and risk it, I really hate having a dirty engine bay. The Cherokee has 212K miles but the engine sparkles like new...I hate opening the hood to see a bunch of dirt and grime.

JDB
01-26-11, 06:29 PM
Isn't the Extended Performance line the worst of Mobil 1? I've stuck with M1 5w30, but would like to explore other options.

other fluid missing is the clutch, which is that clear GM stuff.

RippyPartsDept
01-26-11, 06:29 PM
Pour a bottle of Techron (GM brand or Chevron brand) in the tank before you fill it up after the crossing... maybe pour the techron in before the crossing...

(if you're not using top tier fuels you should be adding a bottle of techron about every 5000 miles or so)
i would guess that your car has probably never had techron run through the gas before

it's the only gas additive that GM recommends (as far as i know)

C66 Racing
01-26-11, 08:06 PM
Dextron III will be hard to find since GM has replaced it with Dextron IV (synthetic version of III I think) - IV can be used in place of III (but not the other way around)


I disagree (politely!). While GM did release a new ATF (Dexron VI), they quickly found out that it was not backwards compatible for Tremec manuals and released several TSBs. Since they had stopped licensing Dexron III, they had to come out with a new fluid. The current GM fluid for their manual transmissions is GM part 88861800, which is not much more than Dexron III with a new part number. Note for FYI, to meet Dexron VI does not require synthetic specifically and a semi-synthetic can probably meet the spec, and one of the main differences is a 40% drop in hot viscosity as compared to Dexron III (which may be why it turned out not to be backwards compatible for the Tremec six speeds).

Responding to the OP, I used and would recommend these for the oil, tranny and diff:
AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic 0w30 (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/SSOPB.htm) (Product Code SSOQT)
AMSOIL Torque-Drive Synthetic Transmission Fluid (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/ATDPB.htm) (Product Code ATD1G)
AMSOIL Severe Gear Extreme Pressure Synthetic 75w90 (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/SVGPB.htm) (Product Code SVGQT)
This comes in handy if you plan on doing this yourself:
AMSOIL Hand Pump (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/G2039PB.htm) (Product Code G2039)

I'm dropping you a PM, but the short story is yes I can get you 25%. It takes me one call to AMSOIL to set up your account, then you can be ordering 10 minutes later. They ship via UPS and shipping time varies, but is normally only a few business days.
:cheers:

RippyPartsDept
01-26-11, 09:33 PM
yeah i forgot about those manual transmissions that can't take Dextron VI .... thanks for the reminder and the info!

Claimslngr
01-27-11, 10:58 AM
I would definitely put some sort of fuel stabilizer in there with fresh gas before you ship. Some fuels now won't make 30 days without losing their punch. The fuel in mine was only 45 days old (I to thought this was fine) right before I got on it and blew the top off of #7 piston.
Good Luck!

repenttokyo
01-27-11, 11:38 AM
30 days? you don't need fuel stabilizer for 30 days. i store cars for 3 to 4 months at a time without stabilizer, and no issues. six months, i would put in some stabilizer.

it's called winter :(

Claimslngr
01-27-11, 12:05 PM
As you can see I live in a winter state, so this argument is not a new one to me. In my lowly opinion this is an easy fix to eliminate a possible problem. There are a lot of variables that can happen, so why chance it?
To the OP, I have not tried Amsoil's fuel stabilizer but I would imagine it would be as good as the rest of their products.

Repent I am not trying to argue the value of the fuel argument, just relating an experience that cost me dearly.

falke401
09-21-11, 09:58 AM
I disagree (politely!). While GM did release a new ATF (Dexron VI), they quickly found out that it was not backwards compatible for Tremec manuals and released several TSBs. Since they had stopped licensing Dexron III, they had to come out with a new fluid. The current GM fluid for their manual transmissions is GM part 88861800, which is not much more than Dexron III with a new part number. Note for FYI, to meet Dexron VI does not require synthetic specifically and a semi-synthetic can probably meet the spec, and one of the main differences is a 40% drop in hot viscosity as compared to Dexron III (which may be why it turned out not to be backwards compatible for the Tremec six speeds).

Responding to the OP, I used and would recommend these for the oil, tranny and diff:
AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic 0w30 (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/SSOPB.htm) (Product Code SSOQT)
AMSOIL Torque-Drive Synthetic Transmission Fluid (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/ATDPB.htm) (Product Code ATD1G)
AMSOIL Severe Gear Extreme Pressure Synthetic 75w90 (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/SVGPB.htm) (Product Code SVGQT)
This comes in handy if you plan on doing this yourself:
AMSOIL Hand Pump (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Product%20Bulletins/G2039PB.htm) (Product Code G2039)

I'm dropping you a PM, but the short story is yes I can get you 25%. It takes me one call to AMSOIL to set up your account, then you can be ordering 10 minutes later. They ship via UPS and shipping time varies, but is normally only a few business days.
:cheers:

C66 Racing, how do I get the ball rolling on getting some transmission fluid and rear diff fluid witht the discount? I need to start swapping out all the fluids on this V. Thanks!

JDB
09-21-11, 04:37 PM
What I use:

M1 5w30 with M1 206 filter (no more than 5k)...would consider using other 5w30/40 syn oils
M1 ATF Synthetic...would consider using Amsoil or Redline
DEXRON LS gear oil (has additive)...would consider using Amsoil or Redline
ATE Blue Type 200 for brakes and clutch, have used Motul RBF600 as well
GM power steering fluid was flushed by dealer, but thinking Redline next.
GM coolant was flushed by dealer when rad was replaced, will use the same.

Bosch charcoal pollen filter
air filter is LPE intake
OEM fuel filter (haven't done yet)

C66 Racing
10-10-11, 08:29 AM
C66 Racing, how do I get the ball rolling on getting some transmission fluid and rear diff fluid witht the discount? I need to start swapping out all the fluids on this V. Thanks!

Sorry, been offline for several weeks. For anyone interested in AMSOIL at dealer wholesale via the AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program (http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/Preferredcustomer.htm). Drop me a PM if interested. :cheers: