: just ordered a monster stage 2



lilgCTS-V
01-18-11, 09:51 AM
first of all the suspense is killing me and second of all is there anything i should know during the break in period? and can anyone tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 how much im gunna like having an 18lb flywheel ?

PISNUOFF
01-18-11, 10:11 AM
The complete rotating assembly weight is what counts. The dual disc pressure plate is really heavy, but the entire assembly is still waaaayyy lighter than stock. You will love it - I say 9.0

rand49er
01-18-11, 10:12 AM
Don't know specifically about the Monster setup, but your motor will rev up much easier with the LWFW. My UUC FW drives just like stock in normal driving, too. Hope you have the same experience.

From a general point of view, when guys post threads like this, you know they're geeked.

PISNUOFF
01-18-11, 10:27 AM
Forgot about break-in. Just don't launch hard and slip the clutch, or power shift for a few hundred miles. You can do WOT while in gear, but just be easy while changing gears. When installing the flywheel, I always clean the oil off the steel contact surface before putting the clutch disc onto it.

lilgCTS-V
01-18-11, 10:42 AM
im just gunna drive it to my school in CT have it there for a weekend then drive it home that will be an easy 300 miles knocked out there and my car usually never see's any real type of city driving

tweeter81
01-18-11, 11:30 AM
I'd say a 10! I love mine. It eliminated all the dual-mass parade clunking. It feels butter smooth compared to stock. The pedal effort is actually less than stock. The only down-side is that you will probably need about 1500 miles of break-in before the chatter goes away completely, which isn't a big deal at all for all the performance benefits these clutch kits provide.

lilgCTS-V
01-18-11, 12:52 PM
I'd say a 10! I love mine. It eliminated all the dual-mass parade clunking. It feels butter smooth compared to stock. The pedal effort is actually less than stock. The only down-side is that you will probably need about 1500 miles of break-in before the chatter goes away completely, which isn't a big deal at all for all the performance benefits these clutch kits provide.
do you think you gained any acceleration with the lighter flywheel ?

lollygagger8
01-18-11, 01:02 PM
You will LOVE the lightened flywheel!

I would say do the stop and go 500 miles before you beat the hell out of it. A couple WOT's is ok after already accelerating, but I wouldn't do it from a dig.

It sucks, but that flywheel and clutch have to get married before you can beat them :lildevil:

This might help you with install.......
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-performance/181141-monster-clutch-install.html

lilgCTS-V
01-18-11, 01:10 PM
if you have headers do you have to remove them to clear the bell housing ?

tweeter81
01-18-11, 02:03 PM
do you think you gained any acceleration with the lighter flywheel ?

The difference wasn't as night and day as I thought, but the motor definitely spins much more freely and I have found myself hitting the rev limiter more often than I did before, so that is a pretty good indicator that the car is getting up to speed faster than it used to. I would say the car revs maybe 5%-10% quicker (if I had to quatify it), which means that you will feel it slightly in some instances, and not really at all in others. But, IMO, the other benefits of the lightened single-mass setup are completely worth it on their own.

lollygagger8
01-18-11, 02:03 PM
if you have headers do you have to remove them to clear the bell housing ?

I have headers and no, you don't have to remove them. You can kind of see them on in some of the pics.

tweeter81
01-18-11, 02:05 PM
I don't know if my mechanic had to loosen or remove the headers, but he did need to loosen the motor mounts (at least on one side) and rock the motor forward for extra room. He said it was really tight around the bell housing.

PISNUOFF
01-18-11, 02:21 PM
It is almost worth it to remove the intake manifold to get to the top 3 bell housing bolts. My '07 LS2 had more room than an '04 with an LS6 that I helped out with did. I'm not sure if the body changed at all between the years, but there is definitely more room on the '07.

whisler151
01-18-11, 03:55 PM
It is almost worth it to remove the intake manifold to get to the top 3 bell housing bolts. My '07 LS2 had more room than an '04 with an LS6 that I helped out with did. I'm not sure if the body changed at all between the years, but there is definitely more room on the '07.

I think there are more differences between the LS6 and LS2 Vs then people know. There were several differences when we did the axle install back to back on a LS6 V and my LS2.

PISNUOFF
01-18-11, 04:55 PM
I think the motor mounts or trans mount may have changed also. I installed some slightly used stock motor mounts and trans mount (I have no idea what year they came out of) and now my new motor sits about 3/4" higher in the front and the intake tube hits the hood pad and when it's really cold, the bell housing slightly hits the tunnel.

Twitch
01-18-11, 07:52 PM
I think the motor mounts or trans mount may have changed also. I installed some slightly used stock motor mounts and trans mount (I have no idea what year they came out of) and now my new motor sits about 3/4" higher in the front and the intake tube hits the hood pad and when it's really cold, the bell housing slightly hits the tunnel.
Hmmm, I was hanging with a member in an 04 Maggied V. We noticed my motor was noticeably higher. At the time we figured it was cuz my MMs were new.

PISNUOFF
01-19-11, 06:38 AM
Thanks Tony. Maybe that's all it is and after a few heat cycles they'll 'settle'.

OP - Sorry for the mini thread jack.