: Hankook V12 review



wcryan
01-12-11, 05:43 AM
Ive had them on for about 4-500 miles or so. I would put them at a 9-10 for the type of tire that they are. All vibration went away and they stick pretty nicely. The only downside is that I noticed the sidewalls are pretty soft so you gotta up your PSI a little, unless your in high temp weather.

I dont know if just me, but I am running 245-40-19 and 275-35-19 and the rears seem way skinnier than my previous dunlop sport maxx setup. As far as tread goes, it's a little busy, but im used to it now.

We actually did have a little bit of rain here in california recently after I put them on and yet to say, I didnt take them to what I could have;but they did very good for me in the rain. Especially since im not always conservative on the gas pedal

One downfall the price is pretty steep at $915 for all 4. But that was with the mount and balance and warranty, and the bla bla bla crap they tell you your getting with them

All in all, I would highly reccomend them to someone who is looking for a "summer performance tire". If anyone else has these or had experience with these/problems, chime in
Thanks,
Ryan

Dan_Gurney
01-12-11, 10:12 AM
Review looks good, i have these on my car in stock sizes, and i love them, they work great.

Although in stock sizes the price was cheaper then a lot of other tires... part of the big reason that i chose them too.

tweeter81
01-12-11, 11:07 AM
Do either of you guys have pix of them on your car? Sounds like a good tire...although I'm partial to the Toyo T1-Rs.

repenttokyo
01-12-11, 03:10 PM
i have had these tires on my V for 5,000 miles now. I like them. Paid much less, though - $600 - for stock size.

rand49er
01-12-11, 04:10 PM
Summer tires? Not around here for a while.

wcryan
01-12-11, 05:22 PM
I'll post some pictures tonight. It's 72 degrees here today. Gonna put some more test into them

wcryan
01-12-11, 07:12 PM
Here are some pics; sorry for the quality, it's just a phone : /

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee11/wcryan/IMG_0429.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee11/wcryan/IMG_0427.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee11/wcryan/IMG_0426.jpg
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CadiBlk
01-12-11, 07:47 PM
I love them also. I had the KDWs before. They were a good tire, but got loud as hell. I don't have many miles on the v12's yet, but so far so good. 2nd that the sidewalls want more psi. I went 255 all the way around (i like to rotate my tires). I got an alignment when I had them put on and don't think that I paid $900 total.

wcryan
01-12-11, 07:53 PM
275's are a pretty penny

killernoodle
01-12-11, 08:52 PM
I just bought a set for about $800 shipped. Really its the fact that they're 19s that makes them expensive.

I'll put in my 2 cents when I get them mounted to the car.

BTW, why do you have so many weights on that wheel? Its seems excessive.

wcryan
01-12-11, 09:39 PM
No idea, that's just what they did at the tire shop. Look un-normal?

killernoodle
01-13-11, 02:24 AM
I guess those weights are offsetting the mass of the TPMS sensor, but it still seems like a lot.

wcryan
01-13-11, 05:31 AM
I hope so, or im going back tomorrow, haha

AAIIIC
01-13-11, 10:22 AM
BTW, why do you have so many weights on that wheel? Its seems excessive.
I'm guessing he has that many weights on that wheel because that's what it took to balance it. :p Just depends on the wheel and the tire. I'm guessing the CCW wheel isn't at fault, but some tires take more weight than others to balance. I have even more weight than that on one or two of my wheels; in my case I think at least some of it is due to the quality of the wheels (Linea Corses - they're pretty, but they're cheap).

Stepside
01-13-11, 11:32 AM
:coffee: When the wheel weights become excessive, the tire shop should break the bead & rotate the tire 180*, then rebalance.
The shop does not want to put in the extra time & labor charge to do that,
as most of them are trying to move cars through the shop quickly.
So, instruct them of your wishes before they start the job. They will be 'happy' :rolleyes: to charge you 'extra'.

Oh, I have Hankook tires. 255/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear.
:bouncy: They hookup much better than stock. :burn:

tweeter81
01-13-11, 12:21 PM
Great pix, and love the wheels ;)

wcryan
01-13-11, 04:36 PM
: ), I remember ur car. haha. That's what I went off of when I first bought mine. What does breaking the bead actually do? Do you have to do it with new tires?

Stepside
01-13-11, 09:09 PM
"breaking the bead" is a term used for separating the tire from the rim. This is done on a tire machine. The tire is then rotated to a different position on the rim ( it does not have to be 180* ) then, the tire is refilled with air or nitrogen and rebalanced.
Some tires, regardless of being new, can be slightly heavier in some spots and the same applies to the wheel.
Both wheel and tire can also be slightly 'out-of-round' in more than one plane.
Should both these conditions 'line up', then a few grams or ounces becomes many pounds during centripetal force.
A good tire balancer will remove the side-to-side and up-and-down forces in play.

killernoodle
01-14-11, 02:28 PM
"breaking the bead" is a term used for separating the tire from the rim. This is done on a tire machine. The tire is then rotated to a different position on the rim ( it does not have to be 180* ) then, the tire is refilled with air or nitrogen and rebalanced.
Some tires, regardless of being new, can be slightly heavier in some spots and the same applies to the wheel.
Both wheel and tire can also be slightly 'out-of-round' in more than one plane.
Should both these conditions 'line up', then a few grams or ounces becomes many pounds during centripetal force.
A good tire balancer will remove the side-to-side and up-and-down forces in play.

My brother is doing the mounting and balancing of my linea corses and these hankooks, he knows how to do a good job and how to tweak it to not put on too many weights.

Naf
01-16-11, 07:11 AM
What about the Hankook RS-3?

I know the old RH06 were amazin on my tahoe, wet or dry...

The Proxy 4 are slightly better then the TR-1 for they have wider blocks for better cornerin. Also in the wet stand back, rooster tail over 60mph with aggressive spoiler...

The Toyo R888 are great summer tires, but only in the dry...Wet they slip too much, scared me on a corner when i had to brake for the slow poke infront...

The GoodYear F1 all seasons are great off the track, but on the track they stink. Understeerin and plenty of slip on the staights when you pound the gas...

I have a set of RS-3 for my new wheels, 275/35R18 and 305/35R19 and got them for they have some wet grip that was backed up by third party testing...Now if only the guy in shippin would do his job when i tell him to, i would have gotten my wheels on time...

HRE C21 with full Ti hardware...

tweeter81
01-17-11, 07:07 PM
What about the Hankook RS-3?

I know the old RH06 were amazin on my tahoe, wet or dry...

The Proxy 4 are slightly better then the TR-1 for they have wider blocks for better cornerin. Also in the wet stand back, rooster tail over 60mph with aggressive spoiler...

The Toyo R888 are great summer tires, but only in the dry...Wet they slip too much, scared me on a corner when i had to brake for the slow poke infront...

The GoodYear F1 all seasons are great off the track, but on the track they stink. Understeerin and plenty of slip on the staights when you pound the gas...

I have a set of RS-3 for my new wheels, 275/35R18 and 305/35R19 and got them for they have some wet grip that was backed up by third party testing...Now if only the guy in shippin would do his job when i tell him to, i would have gotten my wheels on time...

HRE C21 with full Ti hardware...

Toyo T1-Rs are an ultra-HP summer tire, and the Proxes 4s are an all-season tire, there is no comparison between them. You are greivously wrong, the T1-Rs are a much higher performing tire than the other.

wcryan
01-17-11, 07:08 PM
uh oh :hide:

AAIIIC
01-17-11, 10:06 PM
Toyo T1-Rs are an ultra-HP summer tire, and the Proxes 4s are an all-season tire, there is no comparison between them. You are grievously wrong, the T1-Rs are a much higher performing tire than the other.
I was going to say the same thing. That and the R-888s are about the best R-compounds in the rain other than Hoosier Wets.

Koooop
01-18-11, 02:06 AM
I've seriously pushed the V12's on my V, they stick like crazy. The side wall transmits so much less than other tires the make you think they're soft, but they're not. So I'm happy with the dry traction and handling. They are head and shoulders above the PS2's they replaced in the rain and damn near = dry. One side effect though, I'm not sure why but I don't feel as confident on the V12's as the PS2's. That said, I haven't lost control at all with the V12's, outstanding tire and I will buy them again.

Naf
01-18-11, 06:51 AM
From what i have I heard from my local dealer the RA-1 have been discontinued...And the available sizes are decreasing with time...

If you look at the Toyo website, you may notice this...

AAIIIC
01-18-11, 06:57 AM
Any more comments unrelated to the tires being discussed in this thread?

rand49er
01-18-11, 09:48 AM
Uh-h ... Wings are playing the Penguins tonight.

PGA2B
01-18-11, 11:01 AM
I have them on my STS-V and love them. They are wearing much better than the stock Pirelli runcraps and quiet as can be. I have about 5K on them now.

repenttokyo
01-18-11, 12:06 PM
From what i have I heard from my local dealer the RA-1 have been discontinued...And the available sizes are decreasing with time...

If you look at the Toyo website, you may notice this...

i ordered some this summer for my track car, didn't have any issues. in fact, one of the few track tires made in the size i needed.

Koooop
01-18-11, 01:43 PM
Any more comments unrelated to the tires being discussed in this thread?

Sunny and 75 degrees here in So. Cal.

Koooop
11-03-11, 12:43 AM
I just removed my first set of the Hankook Ventus V12 tires. They lasted 17,000 miles and were not completely toast when I took them off.

I got another set of them, good stuff.

elwesso
11-03-11, 09:32 AM
I've seriously pushed the V12's on my V, they stick like crazy. The side wall transmits so much less than other tires the make you think they're soft, but they're not. So I'm happy with the dry traction and handling. They are head and shoulders above the PS2's they replaced in the rain and damn near = dry. One side effect though, I'm not sure why but I don't feel as confident on the V12's as the PS2's. That said, I haven't lost control at all with the V12's, outstanding tire and I will buy them again.

Interesting you like the V12's better than the PS2's. I haven't tried the V12s, but I have a set of PS2s on my Q45 (245-40-18). I like the fact that the michelin's are quiet and overall have a nice quiet and smooth ride.. I haven't found that the PS2's lose control, I had my Q on the track a year or 2 ago and barreling through the corners hardly heard any squeal or understeer.

Michelin's are also known for being quiet and very grippy even down to the wear bars. Interested to see how you guys like the V12s after they are down to about half tread, seeing if they get noisy or lose a considerable amount of traction. Many tires I've seen perform great at the beginning and then their performance, ride, and noise deteriorate as they wear.

I have a set of continental DWS all seasons on there right now, not nearly as grippy as I want but thats what you get for an all season. I've wanted to try the goodyear F1 GS-D3's, I've heard good reviews about those.

repenttokyo
11-03-11, 02:03 PM
i've been on v12's for 2 years now, took them off for the winter yesterday. Still grip great. I've put just over 9,000 miles on them in that two year period.

Koooop
11-03-11, 09:20 PM
The PS2's AND the V12's are both better than the GSD3's I had some years back. I'm not saying the GSD3 wasn't a great tire, it was but the Hankook and PS2 are much better. If the PS2 and the Hankook were the exact same price I might go back to the PS2, but not if I lived in a place with lots of rain. The Hankook is much better in the rain, when the PS2 got thin it was a frightening ride in the rain. I don't recall the PS2 being real sticky when the got thin on the tread, no better and no worse than the V12 in that dept (from what I recall). What surprised me was the V12 lasted the same miles as the PS2. But I think this is all moot since the PS2 is going away.

thebigjimsho
11-06-11, 08:15 PM
I disagree about the Hankooks being better than the PS2s in the rain. I noticed no increase in wet grip. What I DID notice was the Hankooks were much better in standing water. They'll cut through deep water easily.

In comparing the 2, the PS2s have better turn-in and overall dry grip. The Hankooks can't launch nearly as hard as the PS2s. And I noticed the PS2s keep the same grip characteristics all the way down to the wear bars.

I bought the Hankooks for the V2 because I needed new PS2s and the PSSs may be out soon for our sizes, or similar. So while waiting, I got the uber-cheap Hankooks to see if they were as good as everyone claimed. They are very good and an excellent value for a Max Perf tire. Most of you won't lose much or be able to tell big differences. But, the PS2s are better...

elwesso
11-06-11, 09:29 PM
Interesting thoughts, thats a good comparison. Out of curiosity, what have people been paying for the V12s? This spring I paid about $250/ea for 245-40-18's on my Q45. Looks like the hankooks are going for about $150, so a $400 savings on a set is pretty significant if the differences aren't staggering.

thebigjimsho
11-06-11, 11:30 PM
Yeah, it was easy to go for the Hankooks while waiting for the PSS. I believe I was at under $900 mounted and balanced. V2 sizes, 255/40 19F and 285/35 19R

Twitch
11-07-11, 09:26 AM
How about ride comfort? Bumps, noise, etc....

FYI (hate saying that) I know you don't buy the V for comfort first. But with such horrible roads here it takes away from the pleasure of driving my V. I've got exhaust, maggie whine and a little diff whine from the SW bushings. No chance I'm taking any of those out. But being banged around and feeling like my car will rattle itself apart some day is just too much.

You know, just sayin.......:yup:

PS Right know it's between the Continentals and PSS.

repenttokyo
11-07-11, 01:22 PM
the ride comfort on the V12's is great.

we have abssolutely horrible bone crushing roads in Quebec, but i still love my V on the hankooks.

pato
11-07-11, 09:23 PM
I have no experience with the Hankooks, but the Michelin PSS is a fantastic tire that will make you do stupid things.

Koooop
11-07-11, 11:39 PM
The Hankook does not transmit as much noise to the interior as the PS2 did.

MLEO
11-20-11, 09:44 PM
I had The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus' and they were a great tire. I ate them up after about 12k and got the highly rated V12's. They were very quiet amooth, however I was a little dissapointed with their handling ability as in the same turns and corners i take each day, i couldnt get the Hankooks to Grip as well as the Michelins and my G meter proved it for me. 1.09 was the highest i was able to acheive with the Michelin's and in similar temps on the same turns I could only get a high of about 0.87. Good news is that once I read a post on this thread about pumping them up a little higher (i went up to 34psi rather than 30psi) they improved immediately. It is a little cold now to pull of the same tests so it will have to wait until next year.....once again, great help is always avalable on this forum. Thanks and hope this helps someone else...