: Four ad types have been removed today...



Lord Cadillac
01-10-11, 02:23 PM
1. The cursor ad (all groups)
2. A set of ads in the arcade (all groups)
3. Text link ads near the top navigation bar (supporting members)
4. Rotating 468x60 banner ad near the bottom of thread listings and discussions (supporting members)

JimmyH
01-12-11, 02:29 PM
You cave in too easily Sal. My internet connection is not what you would call blazing (though my pcs are pretty fast) and they never bothered me.

FYI for others: As a platinum supporter this site blazes.

Jesda
01-12-11, 03:42 PM
I suspect some non-subscribers were turned off. If they feel annoyed, folks will show up and get the info they need but they won't stick around and contribute.

Lord Cadillac
02-06-11, 04:18 PM
Another ad has been removed. It was at the bottom and most people probably never saw it - but sometimes you'd hear it. That was just too annoying. I don't know why the ad network allowed these types of ads, but we don't like them here...

Jesda
02-12-11, 09:02 PM
I like the new ads. They're less annoying yet easier to notice and see.

ghettomike
02-13-11, 10:21 PM
i think we need to dig up some canadian sponsors... it would really help out the site.

Lord Cadillac
02-14-11, 02:41 PM
It would. But who?


i think we need to dig up some canadian sponsors... it would really help out the site.

ghettomike
02-14-11, 02:47 PM
the only thing i can think of are cadillac dealers around here.
i mentioned it to a chev dealer but they are a corvette dealer and sponsor some of the vette forums, ill mention it to them again. now that the cts-v is getting more well known, maybe they can open to the V series market on here.

JimmyH
02-14-11, 06:14 PM
I will go to bat for you anytime Sal, but shouldn't platinum supporters be exempt from this?

drewsdeville
02-15-11, 09:52 AM
^^^ lol!

Amazing what a simple adblocker can do for you...

ThumperPup
02-15-11, 08:38 PM
I will go to bat for you anytime Sal, but shouldn't platinum supporters be exempt from this?

i think that all suporters should be exempt from that the ones who should not be are the ones who dont pay anyting at all

Lord Cadillac
02-15-11, 10:18 PM
I don't know where that ad is coming from. Nobody should be seeing anything like that. We have no popups, slide-ins or anything like that in the forums.. Do you see it daily? Who else sees it?


I will go to bat for you anytime Sal, but shouldn't platinum supporters be exempt from this?

ThumperPup
02-15-11, 10:39 PM
I don't know where that ad is coming from. Nobody should be seeing anything like that. We have no popups, slide-ins or anything like that in the forums.. Do you see it daily? Who else sees it?

I saw that add ones yesterday maybe it was just after my vacation was over last night

Stingroo
02-16-11, 09:06 AM
I've never seen that ad, supporter or not. That's insanely annoying though I bet. :lol:

gary88
02-16-11, 11:22 AM
I've seen it on my phone, along with the other annoying ad that pops up on every page while browsing on my phone.

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 11:48 AM
The "other" ad that's shows up on your phone has nothing to do with me/us.. It's the "app" maker's ad and I know of no way to get rid of it. The only way out of that ad is to browse the site normally without the "app".


I've seen it on my phone, along with the other annoying ad that pops up on every page while browsing on my phone.

Stingroo
02-16-11, 12:32 PM
Welp I stand corrected. As I was viewing the "what modifications have you done" thread, it rolled right on across the screen. I've never seen it from my laptop, though. Only from this computer in the library using IE. I use FF on my laptop.

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 12:40 PM
A lot of people across the web are complaining about this ad:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=safecount.net+rolling+ad

Hopefully within these discussions there's a way to disable it.. I'm looking into it, everyone...

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 12:44 PM
Let me know if this helps any, guys...
http://safecount.net/controlyoursurveyexperience.php

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 12:57 PM
Here is a quote in regards to the SafeCount ad from a SafeCount representative:


Hi all,
Just to clarify, Safecount does not buy ads on this website. The advertisers on this website use Safecount to measure their ads with surveys and our survey invites launch from some ads. We are not a virus and do not have the capability to deliver a virus. You can visit our website at safecount.net to opt-out or control survey invites you get across the web. Otherwise, the advertisers or ad networks running on the site must choose not to launch surveys.

It sounds as if this is an ad that sort of comes from another ad on the site.. In order to stop seeing it, you'll need to opt-out (http://safecount.net/controlyoursurveyexperience.php) of it. At this point in time, I don't know of any other way to get rid of it. I'll keep looking into it, though.. Please let me know how opting out works...

JimmyH
02-16-11, 01:34 PM
I only got that floating ad once. And it was on public wifi, btw.

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 01:45 PM
I don't think it makes a difference what type of connection you're using. It's definitely coming from one of our ads - I just don't know which. It could be any of them. When you view the ad image, it spawns that Flash ad.. I don't know how it works but at least we can opt out of it and never see it again...

JimmyH
02-16-11, 01:53 PM
My biggest complaint with the flash ads, is not the ads themselves, but the fact that Adobe Flash is one of the crappiest pieces of software ever written, and causes problems for a large portion of computers out there. I cannot wait for HTML5 to become standard. My m11x suffers problems with flash when using the Intel graphics. random lockups all over the place (I get a lot here).

RippyPartsDept
02-16-11, 03:27 PM
Flashblock ftw

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 03:33 PM
I cannot wait for HTML5 to become standard.

It will happen eventually, but you're gonna be waiting a long time.

As for Adobe causing the majority of all computer problems out there, it sounds like you've been listening to too much Steve Jobs. While Adobe's flash is a resource hungry pig, if you are actually getting consistent lockups on multiple machines, you are configuring something terribly wrong...

JimmyH
02-16-11, 04:09 PM
There is really nothing to configure with flash. And it has a KNOWN memory leak that Adobe cannot, or will not chase down. And yeah, it's even worse on Mac. I don't have any problems with Flash on my 15" laptop or my workstation, but they have core i7/6gb and xeon/12gb respectively. People with older systems, especially with 1gb or less, are going to run into problems unless they reboot every few hours.

My problem is on my 11" notebook, with old Intel GMA drivers that don't play nice with Flash. I cannot change them because they are integrated into the nvidia hybrid graphics drivers. If I install the newer intel drivers that have no problems with flash, then I lose the nvidia gpu.

JimmyH
02-16-11, 04:13 PM
fwiw, divx has a new beta flash player out there. It works really well. Unfortunately, you still have to have Flash installed for it to work. At least as far as I can tell.

RippyPartsDept
02-16-11, 04:20 PM
Again, flashblock FTW

JimmyH
02-16-11, 04:46 PM
I detest blockers of any and all forms. I don't have time to be selecting which pictures and videos I want to see and which ones I don't. Thanks, but no thanks.

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 05:07 PM
I detest blockers of any and all forms. I don't have time to be selecting which pictures and videos I want to see and which ones I don't. Thanks, but no thanks.

You don't need the time. They are all pretty effective and non-intrusive without personal configuration. For example, I installed Adblock for FF and Chrome with a few mouseclicks. Letting the blocker do it's thing with Easylist, I see less ads than platinum supporters. I see ONE, to be exact, from keywraps.com.

Yes, it even blocks flash ads, even ads within videos.

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 05:09 PM
My problem is on my 11" notebook, with old Intel GMA drivers that don't play nice with Flash. I cannot change them because they are integrated into the nvidia hybrid graphics drivers. If I install the newer intel drivers that have no problems with flash, then I lose the nvidia gpu.

Ahh. That sounds like a support problem with the hybrid graphics system from the netbook manufacturer rather than Adobe...

Adobe has been feeling the heat lately, especially with the media making a big deal about html5. The truth is, their latest product (10.2) actually works quite well, even without considering it's past track record. Unless you are still on flash 8.1, it should run quite smoothly.

RippyPartsDept
02-16-11, 05:13 PM
I detest blockers of any and all forms. I don't have time to be selecting which pictures and videos I want to see and which ones I don't. Thanks, but no thanks.

you only have to pick the ones you want to see...

and with the abundance of crappy flash ads on the web these days ... it's not very often that you actually do want to turn the flash on

of course you whitelist sites like youtube but that's a one-time thing for each site


I see ONE, to be exact, from keywraps.com.

that can be blocked with a simple right click maneuver

JimmyH
02-16-11, 05:25 PM
The more you guys talk about blocking ads, the more people are going to use them, the more the ads will get blocked, the less money the ads will bring in, the less money will be available to run the forums, the slower the forum will get.

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 05:27 PM
that can be blocked with a simple right click maneuver

Yeah, but then it leaves this big ugly empty frame that looks ackward. I leave it there for a little aesthetic improvement. It's colorful. Lulz.

If it was one of the annoying dynamic, flashy, noisy ads, it definitely would have been removed.

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 05:30 PM
The more you guys talk about blocking ads, the more people are going to use them, the more the ads will get blocked, the less money the ads will bring in, the less money will be available to run the forums, the slower the forum will get.

I mentioned this a while back, no one had shown any concern, even Sal, so I continue to recommend it.

Since there currently is no other solution, it's the only advice to give. Most members don't buy the ideal "donate now and maybe you'll see results later. No garauntees".

JimmyH
02-16-11, 05:32 PM
I for one saw results the moment I paid up. I stopped for a while, so I was using the site as a non-supporter. And I can tell you, there is a difference.

JimmyH
02-16-11, 05:34 PM
And rippy, you are talking about blocking ads, one of which you are paying to have here :lol:

RippyPartsDept
02-16-11, 05:46 PM
And rippy, you are talking about blocking ads, one of which you are paying to have here :lol:

Nobody notices it anyways... i have to point it out every time someone asks what my phone number is...

i don't advocate blocking ads on sites that you intend to support, and it's a shame that it has come to this, but it's just safer to block all this stuff than it is to let it all through - that's just the truth

similar to how you would wear a condom every time you have sex to protect yourself from that one time you would have caught an STD ... i practice safe browsing by blocking ads, scripts, and flash - it's a bit of a pain but not really that bad

i trust sal and whitelist his site for scripts and ads, but i don't allow his ads to run scripts (they're not his ads to begin with) and that's a big security no-no in my book
More than one million MySpace users could have been caught out by a banner advert that installs spyware via a Windows bug (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5202452.stm) - 2005
Ads--the new malware delivery format (http://www.zdnetasia.com/ads-the-new-malware-delivery-format-62057811.htm) - ny times serves up malware to millions via banner ads
and those are just the ones that people know about - the ones that don't silently install and do all their work in the background or worse rootkit your machine

JimmyH
02-16-11, 07:12 PM
I suppose that is how some people I know have gotten malware on their computer when they swear they never clicked ok to install anything.

Still, 15 years on the internet, and I still have yet to get spyware, malware, or a virus. Maybe because I don't click on links I see on websites or emails. I only visit websites I know. I have run for the last 3 years or so with absolutely no anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-script etc. Probably why people who use my computer think it is so fast.

drewsdeville
02-16-11, 08:37 PM
^^^ that is the truth. A computer is only as safe as it's user, generally. But, as Rippy describes, it's still possible even with safe browsing habits. And, again as Rippy points out, while we all trust Sal, the ads aren't his. With some of the fishy activity going on with ads (this thread being an example), taking extra precautions can't be a bad idea. I mean, when people are seeing ads that Sal has to investigate and says we "shouldn't be seeing", can you fully trust whats being loaded onto your computer?

With the free availability now, extra protection is a no brainer. There isn't a negative consequence to it.

Lord Cadillac
02-16-11, 09:33 PM
Eventually I'm going to have to put these discussions to rest as I really don't need people coming around and removing all the ads without sending any support. I'm leaving everything as is - for now - as I've been working on getting things cleaned up here. I'm already seeing less revenue due to the fact that a bunch of ads have been removed - and I continue to see less and less the more people come here and watch us talking about how to remove all the ads for free.

What's going to happen in the near future is ads are going to become more difficult to block - since everyone is blocking the easy ones. After a few years, people will figure out how to block those ads, and then a new generation of ads is going to come along - and so on - and so on. The best thing for everyone is to figure out how to get the ads blended in with the site's surroundings so that they're not bothering anyone any more than they should be. I'm trying to do that.. It's not easy.

ThumperPup
02-16-11, 10:14 PM
Eventually I'm going to have to put these discussions to rest as I really don't need people coming around and removing all the ads without sending any support. I'm leaving everything as is - for now - as I've been working on getting things cleaned up here. I'm already seeing less revenue due to the fact that a bunch of ads have been removed - and I continue to see less and less the more people come here and watch us talking about how to remove all the ads for free.

What's going to happen in the near future is ads are going to become more difficult to block - since everyone is blocking the easy ones. After a few years, people will figure out how to block those ads, and then a new generation of ads is going to come along - and so on - and so on. The best thing for everyone is to figure out how to get the ads blended in with the site's surroundings so that they're not bothering anyone any more than they should be. I'm trying to do that.. It's not easy.


maybe have a Foruma Section for those who are just suporting members then we can have these convos int here and the ones who are not suporting members wont be able to see the ideas we come up with to get ride of the anoying adds anyone els thiks this is a good idea ?

Jesda
02-16-11, 11:30 PM
I will go to bat for you anytime Sal, but shouldn't platinum supporters be exempt from this?

I saw this one as well, before I logged in.

JimmyH
02-17-11, 01:49 PM
With the free availability now, extra protection is a no brainer. There isn't a negative consequence to it.

Sure there is. You are bogging down your computer. The more protection you run, the more cpu you are giving up. I have tried "gaming versions" of anti-virus, and the best among them still sucks down about 5%.

drewsdeville
02-17-11, 03:49 PM
LOL gaming versions? Never heard of that, nifty marketing.

I run MS Security Essentials on my Windows partition. Uses a whopping 3mb of ram and 0% CPU consistently unless actively scanning. Considering how computer hardware today is far more capable than the current software we have, I'd say the "bogging down" is all placebo. 3mb of 4GB (which is light by todays standards) is hardly worth mentioning.

If it interests you that much, there are many benchmarks on the net that disprove the bogging down theory. The only thing that comes close to saturating todays hardware is video games, and even those show no ill effect running anti-virus and such. This isn't 2003 :P

Here's one for example, from 2 years ago on a lower end notebook. PCMARK results show a 100 point difference before and after, and that could be well within the margin of error.

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5310&review=Microsoft+Security+Essentials+Review

To each their own. This doesn't mean everyone should install anti-virus. However, realize that anti-virus solutions and the like have made great strides recently, and the playing field is quite different from even a few years ago. New computer hardware is way overkill, and (most) anti-virus software is incredibly lightweight.

ThumperPup
02-17-11, 07:46 PM
Sure there is. You are bogging down your computer. The more protection you run, the more cpu you are giving up. I have tried "gaming versions" of anti-virus, and the best among them still sucks down about 5%.

just my apinion but best sercurity program i have ever found is A-Vast and i only have the pro version because i want to suport them
they ahve the free one wich is just as good if not better then most of all the ones you can buy for 40-100 dollars for a 1 year program agreement
but

a-vast is hands down my favorit

Jesda
02-18-11, 07:25 AM
I dont need antivirus either. The Mac is my primary; I don't do anything stupid on the internet and always maintain backups. The Windows PCs are used for pretty specific tasks, like watching TV, recording shows, and my inventory database.


Most mainstream antivirus packages are burdensome -- that hasn't changed. A handful manage to be reasonably efficient.

JimmyH
02-18-11, 04:29 PM
I would never try to talk someone out of anti-virus. But myself, I don't want it, don't need it. I fixed a computer for someone who got malware on his computer even though he had spambot, avast and norton. To quote him "so much for that crap."

Lord Cadillac
02-18-11, 05:41 PM
I switched to a Mac so I didn't have to run Antivirus, Antiadware, Anti this and Anti that anymore. Nowadays, I do have an Antivirus program - but I only use it when I download animated gay midget animal porn (if that offends any small animals, then change midget to "little"). Otherwise, all that stuff used to make Windows run so slow I could take a nap between mouse clicks..

Windows has a bad reputation simply because it's very popular and needs all this protection - because anyone writing a virus is going to go for the best response - which comes from more users (Windows).

JimmyH
02-20-11, 01:38 AM
I think I made my feelings on Mac pretty clear to you Sal. But I did have one for a while. I will confess to succumbing to the irresistible charm of the pretty boy in the apple commercials. Even though I know I have no chance with him because I look more like the guy playing the PC. It was worth a shot.

Jesda
02-22-11, 09:55 PM
Justin Long is dreamy and stuff.

Sometimes I click the Google ads if it looks interesting enough. There was one for aftermarket heated seats, something I'd love to have in the Saab when the top is down. I figure clicking it can't hurt, and it might send Sal a few coins.

No one is getting rich off this place.