: A cheapskates guide to 62$ P235/55R17 98V Tire Buying - Disgracing the Cadillac Name



billdaman
01-07-11, 10:41 PM
For those interested in rolling back the clock to the 1970's when you could purchase a great set of tires for a full size vehicle for $300 I present the cheapskates analysis (or those of you not interested in maintaining the "pride" befitting a Cadillac owner).

My DTS came from the factory with Continental Touring Contact AS (TPC 1246MS) Tires, (You know the ones that are plagued with 2006 -2007 TSB "Rotational Scrape Or Scrunch Noises" that require the dealers to dismount to repair the issue) Basically they are and were sub par tires. Many of the DTS vehicles on the forum are still riding on these with 30K + miles. For me the time has come for a tire change. But I was thinking ...lets have fun and be cheap!

So I decided today to bring further disgrace to my fake badged V series DTS AND take my life into my hands by dispensing with common sense thinking such as "You get what you pay for and ..."My family is more important than a few hundred dollars," and buy some OMG...Cheap DOT Certified Korean Tires! Here is my cheapskate comparsion between the Hankook - H417 Optimo P235/55R17 98V Rated tires and the POC Continentals that came on our vehicles. (Hey neither of them are American companies, both have US manufacturing facilities)

First of all the "out the door" price from TireMonkey.com - delivered to my local Tire dealer that I have been doing business with for years (yes he has signed up with Tire Monkeyalong with every other tire dealer in town) guess they cut him a great deal when he picks up my tires 24 hours after I order them from THE SAME DISTRIBUTOR he goes to daily for his tire runs (Tiremonkey splits the $16 per tire shipping fee with the installer for picking them up).

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook6.jpg

$300 delivered + + $90 installed, and My tire dealer installs them and handles all warranty issues. They are by no means Pep Boy tires and I still get excellent service LOL $390 LOL

Next ....Some utterly and completely useless photos comparing the Contential AS and Hankook Optima 417 tires:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook1.jpg

and this

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook2.jpg

Finally this

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook3.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/hankook4.jpg

Lastly, the opinions by users with hundreds of thousands of miles driving experience on the most popular All season tires sold, showing my $62 new Hankooks at middle to the bottom of the performance list, but holds their own against some pretty decent all season tire competition.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook5.jpg

1/3 the cost of replacing the POC Continental AS tires, installed and serviced by my local dealer. A real cheapskates bargain. My safety comes second to a good deal....LOL LOL :rolleyes:

Next for my V series DTS...fart can mufflers :bouncy:

Lev Blekher
01-08-11, 03:19 AM
Why disgrace the luxury name with cheap tires and poor ride?

Jesda
01-08-11, 04:56 AM
Well, if they're an upgrade over the Continentals, then it was worth it. Hopefully they wear evenly -- that's where cheaper tires reveal their cheapness. They get rough and noisy in shorter time. Best of luck!

Superjim
01-08-11, 08:29 AM
Billdaman...
Good luck with the tires.
I replaced the crappy BridgeSTONES on my DTS with Yokohamas.

Best move I ever made about tires on this car.
They ride SO MUCH smoother and quieter that the factory tires.

Jim

billdaman
01-08-11, 10:18 AM
Billdaman...
Good luck with the tires.
I replaced the crappy BridgeSTONES on my DTS with Yokohamas.

Best move I ever made about tires on this car.
They ride SO MUCH smoother and quieter that the factory tires.

Jim

Hey Jim and others thanks for the good wishes. Tires are such an emotional issue for us perfectionists who dont like getting ripped off, In my excitement trying to achieve the title of the cheapest v series emblem sticken low life on the forum, I nearly forgot the real point of my post, that being that this TireMonkey.com company seems to be changing the rules of tire buying and I got these tires for 1/2 the price of Sears or Tire Rack - Installed.

SEARS and Tire Rack $129 Tire Monkey $62. The tires are not some knock offs or expired junk, they are sitting in stock at regional tire Distributor warehouses that you local tre companies all buy from.

You guys out there that are similar minded might want to keep an eye on this because the business model for tire buying looks like its being turned on it head.

Just for grins: Sears: $129

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook7.jpg

Tire Rack: $129

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook8.jpg

TireMonkey: $62

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook6.jpg


Nearly all the reviews say great tire, Nice smooth Ride...dont last over 30K (Just like the POC Contis delivered on the DTS) , noisier when they age (what tire doesnt?)

BTW did I mention that they are V rated..LOL I am heading to the strip with my V series DTS and getting her up to 149 mph for a minitute or too on these new tires. :bighead:

billdaman
01-08-11, 10:21 AM
Billdaman...
Good luck with the tires.
I replaced the crappy BridgeSTONES on my DTS with Yokohamas.

Best move I ever made about tires on this car.
They ride SO MUCH smoother and quieter that the factory tires.

Jim

Hey Jim and others thanks for the good wishes. Tires are such an emotional issue for us perfectionists who dont like getting ripped off, In my excitement trying to achieve the title of the cheapest v series emblem sticken low life on the forum, I nearly forgot the real point of my post, that being that this TireMonkey.com company seems to be changing the rules of tire buying and I got these tires for 1/2 the price of Sears or Tire Rack - Installed.

SEARS and Tire Rack $129 Tire Monkey $62. The tires are not some knock offs or expired junk, they are sitting in stock at regional tire Distributor warehouses that your favorite local tire businesses all buy from daily. They are not shipped to your door from a "seconds" wharehouse at Sears or Tire Rack

You guys out there that are similar minded might want to keep an eye on this because the business model for tire buying looks like its being turned on it head.

Just for grins: Sears: $129

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook7.jpg

Tire Rack: $129

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook8.jpg

TireMonkey: $62

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s135/billdaman1/Hankook6.jpg


Nearly all the reviews say great tire, Nice smooth Ride...dont last over 30K (Just like the POC Contis delivered on the DTS) , noisier when they age (what tire doesnt?)

BTW did I mention that they are V rated..LOL I am heading to the strip with my V series DTS and getting her up to 149 mph for a minute or two on these new tires. :bighead:

Superjim
01-08-11, 10:44 AM
Well...
Before you can get to 149...you will have to remove the speed limiter. :thumbsup:
If it is s VIN "Y" car it is set at 112.
VIN "9" is set at 123.

That means "TUNING" it...:tisk:
Then it ain't "FACTORY" any more...:tisk:
Then you are "WRONG" for doing it...:cookoo:

(Sarcasm mode OFF)

PS...Speed limiter..Speed limiter...we don't need no stinkin SPEED LIMITER...:stirpot:
(paraphrased from Treasure Of The Sierra Madre)

Texas Jim

USSBlackPearlUSMC
01-14-11, 10:49 PM
Speed limiters dont matter when you install a VSeries Flux Capacitor. haha

Superjim
01-14-11, 11:45 PM
Speed limiters dont matter when you install a VSeries Flux Capacitor. haha

I WANT ONE....:thumbsup: :) :) :) :stirpot:

Jim

BlackRavenDTS
01-21-11, 07:57 PM
I WANT ONE....:thumbsup: :) :) :) :stirpot:

Jim Lmfao

Where can I get V-series racing stripes?

USSBlackPearlUSMC
01-22-11, 03:44 PM
I like the Marty Martian ones at Advanced Auto, which match the floormats. Due to the glossyness and lack of drag, 0-60 was cut in half, with the VSeries Flux, it is cut into 3/4, which puts it at around .8 seconds-which requires a space suit with a blatter bag.

Actually I dont know if anyone else has seen the VW Beetle with the jet engine sticking out, but its pretty funny and out landish. I saw it in an old Hot Rod magazine.

GhoSSt
12-12-11, 10:42 AM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but TireMonkey doesn't seem to have these for 62.00 anymore. Anyone know what the best current deal on 235/55-17 shoes is?

Thanks!

Kelly

billdaman
12-12-11, 09:17 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but TireMonkey doesn't seem to have these for 62.00 anymore. Anyone know what the best current deal on 235/55-17 shoes is?

Thanks!

Kelly

Kelly the Monkey has these for $108 Nice tires not the best riding but great on dry and wet roads (co worker bought from them last year for DTS from the Monk)

Falken - Ziex ZE-502
$108.00 each $432.00 set of 4
Delivered from a National Distributor within
3 business days for $16.00 per tire
Sidewall: Blackwall
Load Index: 99 (1,709 lbs)
Speed Rating: H (130 mph)
UTQG Rating: 340 A A

DS1784DS
12-21-11, 08:39 AM
I just installed a set of pirelli p zero nero tires. They are v rated so they the sidewall is a little stiffer. I have put this tire on my last four cadillacs. I love them, they are quite, handle great, are good in the snow and wet. And they provide a very good ride. The v series lets the car corner a little better without really giving up any of the ride quaility. Four tires mounted, balanced, new tpms gaskets and seales, $692.00