: 1980-85 Broughams & 1977-84 deVilles, do you prefer the coupe or sedan?



I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-03-10, 11:26 PM
I found this gem on ebay today.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-000-MILES-Pristine-ALL-ORIGINAL-Survivor-RARE-Coupe-/330502777374?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf3802a1e#ht_60144wt_1167

And it got me to thinking, in the 80-85 Broughams and 80-84 deVilles, I always preferred the coupes. The sedans are great and all, but I think the coupes have better proportions, look much more regal and imposing as coupes, and are much rarer. However, with the 77-79 deVilles, I prefer the sedans, as the coupes, IMO don't look as good with the more angled c-pillar.

How about you?

sven914
12-04-10, 01:13 AM
I completely agree about the late '70's coupes; they are one of least favorite body-styles because of the over-sized opera window.

I have mixed feelings about coupes and sedans. I like the formal roof line of the (Fleetwood) Brougham and probably would not take the opportunity to own a Sedan de Ville for that reason. With the coupes, they have a cleaner and somehow sleeker look, but the quarter top on the Coupe de Ville is awkward. The roof on the Brougham coupe is better and I would like to own one of them, but they still don't look as nice as a de Ville with a vinyl top delete.

77CDV
12-04-10, 01:38 AM
I'm just the opposite of Chad. I think the 77-79 Deville coupes look way better than the sedans. With the 80-85 FWBs, I much prefer the sedans, as I find the ginormous C-pillars and teeny-tiny opera windows out of proportion and clumsy. It makes the greenhouse look too heavy. With the Fleetwood sedans, the thinner B-pillar and ultraformal backlight give the car a very regal and imposing presence.

Overall, though, I prefer the 77-79 cars (Devilles and Fleetwoods) to the 80-85 redesign. Wouldn't be the first time I'm in the minority. :)

1980coupe
12-05-10, 01:12 AM
i prefer the 77-79 coupe roof lines, like the slanted look on the rear back. i have a 78 and 79 coupe. on the 80-85 i like the fleetwood brougham coupe because of the smaller rear opera window treatment it has because of the vinyl treatment these has. my old fwb coupe was my favorite too bad i had to get rid of it.
wonder if anyone can photoshop a 77-79 roof line on an 80-85 coupe. bet it would look neat..

Aron9000
12-05-10, 02:26 AM
Man I just had a good chuckle on the Buy It Now price on that brown 83. No way is a 4100 car going to fetch that type of coin, even one that is immaculate like that one. Plus that color is pretty staid IMO, it would be a lot more appropriate on a sedan, coupes are supposed to be bright and flashy party colors.


Personally I prefer 80-85 Coupe. Just love that near vertical rear window, and I love the vinyl top treatment on that brown car. My next favorite is the 90-92 Brougham, then the 80's Sedan Deville/Fleetwood. I'm not as big of a fan of the 77-79 cars, something about the straight across front bumper and the way the rear window treatment is done. Also, I don't like the huge opera windows on the 77-79 CDV. Not saying that I don't like the 77-79 Caddies, as they are my favorite ones from that decade besides the 1970 line.

ga_etc
12-05-10, 03:25 AM
I love the '80-'85 Coupes. There's an '81 CDV on CL I would just about beat someone to have.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-05-10, 01:54 PM
It would be interesting to find the old marketing manuals for the salespeople from the early '80s Cadillacs. Like who was the Coupe deVille targeted to v. the Fleetwood Brougham Coupe...? Were the coupe versions bought by people looking for a more youthful version than the sedans?

Bro-Ham
12-05-10, 07:15 PM
I like the 77-79 Cads. They are the original and a classic. Plus, the only thing you really need to know is: 425.

Chad, you should own a 82-85 Cad with HT4100 just to get it out of your system, it could be your next S-Class.

Seriously, if you like the 80-85 style then you should consider a 1980 with the no nonsense 368. Even a 1981 with the V8-6-4 is a PITA unless you like puzzles and turning wrenches.

:)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-05-10, 07:32 PM
I'm not talking engines or reliability, just the design and look.

Not only is that HT4100 a turd when it comes to reliability, it's a DOG. I mean it makes my Astro seem fast by comparison. That's two big strikes. I hate unreliable cars and I hate slow cars, no matter how good they look. If I got an HT4100 car, it would not keep the original drivetrain. Almost anything is better than those, even the 4.1L Buick V6.

Aron9000
12-06-10, 02:00 AM
I've always wanted to do a Buick grand national motor swap on a 82-85 Coupe Deville/Fleetwood coupe with the craptastic 4100 v8. 3.8 v6, turbocharged, would run 12 second quarter miles all day long and still be reliable with working a/c.

pompste
12-06-10, 02:32 AM
I found this gem on ebay today.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-000-MILES-Pristine-ALL-ORIGINAL-Survivor-RARE-Coupe-/330502777374?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf3802a1e#ht_60144wt_1167

And it got me to thinking, in the 80-85 Broughams and 80-84 deVilles, I always preferred the coupes. The sedans are great and all, but I think the coupes have better proportions, look much more regal and imposing as coupes, and are much rarer. However, with the 77-79 deVilles, I prefer the sedans, as the coupes, IMO don't look as good with the more angled c-pillar.

How about you?

I`ve got a '78 Sedan Deville 4 door the exact same color as the Fleetwood you linked on e-bay.By the way the one on e-bay is drop dead gorgeous! I don`t like the 4.1 liter,but the engine is so clean you could eat off it.It always amazes me when a mint condition,looks like it just rolled off the assmbly line classic like the one on e-bay shows up.How do they keep them so mint?
Naturally,i`m favored to the '77-'79 4 door Deville`s----but i do prefer the bigger and more stylish grille`s and the slightly beefier back ends of the later models.They raised the height of the trunk lids a bit on the 1980 and up models---making them look a bit more imposing from the rear.

greencadillacmatt
12-06-10, 02:53 AM
I'm for the 80's Coupe bodystyle. I love the huge waterfall grill on my '84, and the enormous doors. I don't mind the Sedan DeVilles, but I much prefer the two door style. I really enjoy the look of the half-vinyl top on the car, especially in a contrasting color. The chrome trim around it gives it enough of a break from the rest of the roof so it doesn't look awkward. I really don't mind the giant C-pillars. It's certainly a blind spot, but I like the look of the upright roof because of them. That's really the big reason I don't like the 77-79 models as much. The angle of the roof is to strange for me. If I bought a 70's model, I'd get a 75 or 76. That being said, I would LOVE a 425 in place of that stupid HT4100.

Bro-Ham
12-06-10, 10:40 AM
I've always wanted to do a Buick grand national motor swap on a 82-85 Coupe Deville/Fleetwood coupe with the craptastic 4100 v8. 3.8 v6, turbocharged, would run 12 second quarter miles all day long and still be reliable with working a/c.

THAT sounds like FUN! :)

Someone needs to create a no nonsense simple engine swap solution for the remaining HT4100 cars before the scrap metal dealers get ahold of them all.

GeneLaw1
12-06-10, 08:05 PM
I feel the same with what most are thinking here...80 - 84 like the Coupes....77-79 like the Sedan...Just like the look! They want an awful lot for this car though, haha...as for the HT4100, the one in my Deville does fine. Definitely not a strong engine by any means, but hell, I got my Caddy to cruise...for my speed I will have an 300 SRT waiting in the wings, lol....that 4.1 gets AWESOME gas mileage though...I must say...

Aron9000
12-06-10, 08:14 PM
I feel the same with what most are thinking here...80 - 84 like the Coupes....77-79 like the Sedan...Just like the look! They want an awful lot for this car though, haha...as for the HT4100, the one in my Deville does fine. Definitely not a strong engine by any means, but hell, I got my Caddy to cruise...for my speed I will have an 300 SRT waiting in the wings, lol....that 4.1 gets AWESOME gas mileage though...I must say...

What sort of MPG is the 4100 getting?

I find its hard to beat the 17-18mpg I get in mixed driving with my 350 TBI. I get 23mpg doing straight highway at my bonzi speeds of 80-90mph.

GeneLaw1
12-07-10, 12:47 AM
I can get 30 highway on that thing man....thing of beauty...city, not too sure, think bout 16 - 18 city...

hueterm
12-07-10, 01:37 AM
Coupe, always and forever...

greencadillacmatt
12-07-10, 05:21 PM
coupe, always and forever...

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