: 2002 Radio Control Steering Wheel Buttons



gmercedesbenz
11-18-10, 07:05 PM
Ok, so I know I've posted about this before, so if any of you have read this already I have some updates.

Long story short, I've been looking for months on how to replace the lights that illuminate the radio control buttons on either side of the steering wheel in my '02 'Lade. After alot of Googleing and talking to my dealership a few times, I came to the conclusion that it requires the purchase of a new set of buttons and the removal of the air bag.

I just received the buttons in the mail, (I have the part number if anyone is interested) and looking at the new set, I can pretty much assume I'm going to have to remove the airbag.

I won't lie, I'm a little sketchy of doing that, but if someone here can give me a good tutorial I would definitely appreciate it.

Below is a stock picture of the '02 interior with the older style steering wheel/air bag/radio control buttons. I can post a picture up of the new buttons I got in the mail when I get home.

http://www.4x4review.com/Portals/1/OldImages/vehicles/chevy/escalade-interior.jpg

Thank you in advance!

RByers91
11-18-10, 08:38 PM
If you could post the part numbers that would be great. What did it cost for the buttons if you dont mind me asking?

sk7
11-18-10, 08:44 PM
I posted info from the FSM about this before, I think it was to get to the replacement of the flasher lever unit? I was gonna replace the bulbs in mine this spring, winter is almost here and its still not done... Really no big deal in removing the airbag. I even think the wheel has to come off cuz the bolts holding the switch are behind the steering wheel and not accessible. I can check in the FSM and let u know.

gmercedesbenz
11-18-10, 11:55 PM
If you could post the part numbers that would be great. What did it cost for the buttons if you dont mind me asking?

Not at all :cool: The part number is 16867406. The description comes up as "Switch". I bought mine off of newgmparts.com...unit price $38.33 plus shipping and handling came to $50.32

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The wiring harness came attached with the set, but it is removable on the back of switch, so most likely I will just use the existing wiring and just swap out the switches.


I posted info from the FSM about this before, I think it was to get to the replacement of the flasher lever unit? I was gonna replace the bulbs in mine this spring, winter is almost here and its still not done... Really no big deal in removing the airbag. I even think the wheel has to come off cuz the bolts holding the switch are behind the steering wheel and not accessible. I can check in the FSM and let u know.

That would be great, thank you very much!

jnrsesv
11-20-10, 06:38 AM
I replaced just the bulbs in my '05, radio shack $2.50 for 2 bulbs. Anyway sk is correct the steering wheel has to come off, heres how:

I started off by disconnecting the neg on battery for an hour, then cut a coat hanger into 2 pieces to serve as the "special tool" that removes the actual airbag, (you could use nails or such), look on either side of steering wheel you will see 2 small holes, slide "special tools" into each hole and push in, the air bag will pop out, remove wire connector set aside.Next disconnect horn wire. Next remove steering wheel nut and give a good pull on it to remove, mine slide off pretty easily **NOTE** alignment of wheel. Flip steering wheel over and remove the 4 screws that hold the wire harnesses and controls in place. From the backside of wheel push radio controls out and replace. Reassmble in reverse order, takes about a half hour.

I have pics but not on this puter if needed.

gmercedesbenz
11-20-10, 10:04 AM
I replaced just the bulbs in my '05, radio shack $2.50 for 2 bulbs. Anyway sk is correct the steering wheel has to come off, heres how:

I started off by disconnecting the neg on battery for an hour, then cut a coat hanger into 2 pieces to serve as the "special tool" that removes the actual airbag, (you could use nails or such), look on either side of steering wheel you will see 2 small holes, slide "special tools" into each hole and push in, the air bag will pop out, remove wire connector set aside.Next disconnect horn wire. Next remove steering wheel nut and give a good pull on it to remove, mine slide off pretty easily **NOTE** alignment of wheel. Flip steering wheel over and remove the 4 screws that hold the wire harnesses and controls in place. From the backside of wheel push radio controls out and replace. Reassmble in reverse order, takes about a half hour.

I have pics but not on this puter if needed.

Beautiful :D I would definately benefit from pictures as well if its not too much trouble. As for the bulbs, you are certaintly right, that route is much cheaper and I wish I could of done it that way :(...but after inspecting the switches both on my truck and in the mail, I've concluded that replacing the bulbs in these older style switches would be extremely difficult, for myself anyway. I read a tutorial on how to replace the bulbs on the 03+ switches, that seemed fairly straight forward, but when I asked about my older style switches, no one really had an answer. But I could be wrong, maybe I'll try and take apart the old set when I get them out and post up some pictures of the tear down. I will definitely take step by step pictures of this replacement when I do it, I'm sure I'm not the only one here with an '02 :grouphug:

jnrsesv
11-21-10, 08:10 AM
sorry I do not know how to post actual pics from my pc but here they are:

maybe someone can repost the actual pics?

jnrsesv
11-21-10, 08:14 AM
I have 1 more of the backside but the forums is telling me I have "exceeded my quota" What is up with that?

gmercedesbenz
11-21-10, 04:40 PM
Hey thanks for the pictures! Unfortunately I took a look at my truck, my steering wheel does not have the holes that you noted to pop off the airbag. I have two bolts that are in the direct back of the steering wheel, but thats it. Anyone have any ideas?

sk7
11-21-10, 08:19 PM
I will post info from the FSM tomorrow on this topic. Last nite shift then a few days off! I just might get tempted to do the job...

jnrsesv
11-22-10, 06:33 AM
without using photo bucket or the like is there an easy way to post pics?

sk7
11-22-10, 10:58 PM
Air Bag Removal info from the FSM:

Removal Procedure
Caution: This vehicle is equipped with a Supplemental Inflatable Restraint (SIR) System. Failure to follow the correct procedure could cause the following conditions:

Air bag deployment

Personal injury

Unnecessary SIR system repairs

In order to avoid the above conditions, observe the following guidelines:
Refer to SIR Component Views in order to determine if you are performing service on or near the SIR components or the SIR wiring.

If you are performing service on or near the SIR components or the SIR wiring, disable the SIR system. Refer to Disabling the SIR System.


1 - Disable the SIR system. Refer to Disabling the SIR System .
2 - Turn ON the ignition.

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3 - Turn the steering wheel 90 degrees so the side of the SIR module is at the 12 o'clock position in order to gain access to the holes behind the steering
wheel.

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4 - Insert a screwdriver into the access hole and push the leaf spring to release the notched pin that retains the inflator module.

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5 - Turn the steering wheel 180 degrees in order to gain access to the remaining hole.
6 - Insert a flat-bladed tool into the remaining access hole and push the leaf spring to release the notched pin that retains the inflator module.

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7 - Tilt the top of the inflator module rearward to gain access to the SIR wiring.
8 - Disconnect the SIR lead wire from the clip on the inflator module.
9 - Disconnect the SIR lead wire from the clip on the steering wheel.

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sk7
11-22-10, 11:29 PM
Horn Switch Replacement:

Removal Procedure
Caution: Refer to Servicing the SIR System Caution in the Preface section.

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1 - Disable the SIR system. Refer to Disabling the SIR System in SIR.
2 - Remove the Inflatable Restraint Steering Wheel module. Refer to Inflatable Restraint Steering Wheel Module Replacement in SIR.
3 - Remove the horn plunger from the steering column by pressing inward to the stop and rotating horn plunger 90 degrees.

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4 - Disconnect the horn contact plate (2) captured screws (1,4) from the steering wheel (3).
5 - Remove the horn switch (2) from the steering wheel (3).

Steering Wheel Replacement:

Tools Required
J 1859-A Steering Wheel Puller

Removal Procedure

1 - Disable the supplemental inflatable restraint (SIR) system. Refer to Disabling the SIR System in SIR.
2 - Remove the inflator module. Refer to Inflatable Restraint Steering Wheel Module Replacement in SIR.
3 - Remove the horn switch. Refer to Horn Switch Replacement - On Vehicle .
4 - Make an alignment mark in order to note the relationship of the steering wheel to the steering shaft.
5 - Remove the steering wheel nut.

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6 - Remove the steering wheel, using the J 1859-A .

Installation Procedure

1 - Align the marks made during the removal procedure on the steering shaft and the steering wheel.

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2 - Install the steering wheel onto the steering shaft.

Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

3 - Install the steering wheel nut to the steering shaft.

Tighten
Tighten the nut to 40 Nm (29 lb ft).

4 - Install the horn switch. Refer to Horn Switch Replacement - On Vehicle .
5 - Install the inflator module. Refer to Inflatable Restraint Steering Wheel Module Replacement in SIR.
6 - Enable the SIR system. Refer to Disabling the SIR System in SIR.

Steering Wheel Control Switch Assembly Replacement

Removal Procedure
Remove the steering wheel. Refer to Steering Wheel Replacement

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2 - Remove the horn switch from the steering wheel.

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3 - Remove the steering wheel shroud retaining screws from the back of the steering wheel.
4 - Remove the steering wheel shroud from the steering wheel.

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That pretty much covers it up. To disable the SIR GM goes the foolproof way of disconnecting every module. I just unplug the negative side of the battery.