: What would you rather drive? Part 2



Lord Cadillac
10-29-10, 11:34 AM
http://www.whatwouldyouratherdrive.com/2010/10/which-car-would-you-prefer-to-drive-if-you-had-to-choose-between-one-of-these/

29.17% Audi A8
16.67% Mercedes S550
16.67% Hyundai Equus
12.5% BMW 750i
12.5% Jaguar XJ
8.33% Lexus LS460
4.17% Volkswagen Phaeton

Stingroo
10-29-10, 11:38 AM
I voted A8.

Vinsanity
10-29-10, 11:39 AM
I voted for the Jag, and 2nd place would have gone to the Bimmer. If the question were what would you rather be driven in, then I'd answer Mercedes or Lexus.

gdwriter
10-29-10, 02:17 PM
Voted A8.

orconn
10-29-10, 02:33 PM
None of the above .... but maybe a last generation XJ8!

ryannel2003
10-29-10, 02:38 PM
I voted the XJ.

hueterm
10-29-10, 02:39 PM
Jag. I like it the best, but probably wouldn't buy one. If it was buy, it would be the Lexus...or the Equus.

Aron9000
10-29-10, 03:40 PM
I voted for the Benz. In a big cruiser, I like it kind of soft, numb, and uninvolving. Plus the Benz, even after 3 years on the market is just stunning to look at, inside and out.

Although I haven't sat in or driven a NEW Audi A8 yet. Might have to change my vote after driving one, they look great in the photos.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-29-10, 03:56 PM
I went for the S550. You can take the man out of the S-Class, but you can't take the S-Class out of the man. Time and time again, it's proven as the class benchmark. The new A8 looks great though, so that comes in at a very close #2. The XJ looked great when it came out last year, but now as it ages on, it just looks goofy. I like the Equus a lot too, but in this class I've gotta go with a luxury brand.

Jesda
10-29-10, 09:27 PM
The Jag has an awesome interior and is probably great fun to drive, but that weird body hasnt grown on me.

Destroyer
10-29-10, 11:31 PM
I haven't driven any of them so I based my decision on looks but have owned cars from each maker and have a general feeling for each car. I voted for the Jaguar. This is not biased as I have owned plenty from each manufacturer (ok, not many Audi's and no Hyundai's). Next would be the S550 followed by the BMW 750i, then Audi and then Lexus. The Hyundai is an excellent car (I hate to say that but it's true) but if it's got that badge on it I'll never "want" it. I actually think Hyundai is building better cars than Cadillac these days which shows how much my enthusiasm for Cadillac's has perished.

C&C
10-30-10, 02:59 PM
Had to go with the Bimmer; it's reputation put me at ease knowing that it wouldn't be a bad ride (by any stretch), and this knowing I'd probably never have the opportunity to drive any on that list.

RippyPartsDept
10-30-10, 03:54 PM
I voted for the Jag, and 2nd place would have gone to the Bimmer. If the question were what would you rather be driven in, then I'd answer Mercedes or Lexus.

same here... i think the big grille on the jag is what did it for me, but i'd rather sit in the rear of the Equus

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 10:26 AM
Since most of us haven't driven any of these cars, what is this being based on? Appearance?

None of the above for me. I don't even have any interest in driving any of those.

Cadillacboy
10-31-10, 12:53 PM
Jaguar XJ , I am surprised Audi is still leader

ThumperPup
10-31-10, 01:57 PM
http://www.whatwouldyouratherdrive.com/2010/10/which-car-would-you-prefer-to-drive-if-you-had-to-choose-between-one-of-these/

29.17% Audi A8

4.17% Volkswagen Phaeton

from what i have heard These to are almost the same cars



oh and id pick the Lexus LS460 actualy ida have to say id really want a Lexus LS600h but the 460 is one of the top at my chosie

Stingroo
10-31-10, 02:20 PM
Well maybe they used to be, but the Phaeton is out of production now, and the A8 just got a redesign.

Jesda
10-31-10, 02:40 PM
Since most of us haven't driven any of these cars, what is this being based on? Appearance?

None of the above for me. I don't even have any interest in driving any of those.

You've never "wanted" a car? I guess you're too cool, brah.

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 02:55 PM
Sure I have, just not any of these. This genre as a whole really doesn't interest me.

Outside of that, as far as singling out a car from of a list I've never experienced, I'm not sure I could do it. Specs on paper generally aren't representative of the car at all, unfortunately. There are plenty of cars out there that look identical on paper but end up being completely different animals when driven.

If I was making a decision based on appearance, I'd give my vote to the Audi, hands down.

Jesda
10-31-10, 03:05 PM
What are you into? Sports cars? Buses? Bread vans? Rollerblades?

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 03:13 PM
All of the above, depending on what it's being used for.

I believe in product specialization. Therefore, if I want to go fast, I want a small, fast, light and quick sports car. If I want luxury, I get the a car that's most comfortable to me. If I want economical, I take my bicycle out or my very reliable $1,000 car.

Is this efficient? Probably not- Because of this thought process, I have multiples of everything: vehicles, bicycles, computers, etc. However, they all excel at what they were set up to do, and I like it.

My personal opinion on this genre is that they all really don't excel at one thing but are quite expensive. There are sports cars faster than these, there are luxury cars more comfortable than these, etc. However, they are practical because they try to be "pretty good" at everything. They are fairly luxurious, sporty, fun, etc.

Just not my thing, that's all.

Jesda
10-31-10, 03:24 PM
Bread vans it is.

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 03:39 PM
Bread vans it is.

Yeah, the old Ferrari 250 GT is a pretty nifty machine. I wonder where it's at now-a-days.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-31-10, 04:18 PM
So Drew, what is your #1 dream car? Or should I ask what are your five favorite cars of each different category?

hueterm
10-31-10, 04:39 PM
My guess is an '02 Corolla...

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 05:54 PM
So Drew, what is your #1 dream car? Or should I ask what are your five favorite cars of each different category?

Can't answer that.

With the amount work that I get, which has been growing exponentially, I end up driving a LOT of cars. That includes stuff I don't care about, stuff that surprises me, stuff that's more than I could dream of, and stuff that's downright disappointing.

I can't find a way to narrow any of it down. Frankly, I really never cared enough to put thought into a question like that. There are a lot of vehicles I like and a lot I hate.

Besides, it's all subjective. I found ways to have more fun and make more memories in my rusted out 1992 Ford Escort than in any of the other nicer cars I've owned or driven.

It doesn't take a certain type of car to enjoy driving a car, it takes a certain type of driver. The driving experience is what you make of it.

If you feel that you can comfortably answer that question, then good good for you. Gives you a goal to potentially work towards in the future. I personally don't feel comfortable labeling one car as my dream car.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-31-10, 05:58 PM
Which brings me to the next question, what do you do for work?

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 06:09 PM
I'm not sure how this is relevant to the thread, but I'll play along...

While going to school full time, I drive truck for Fedex Ground part time.

I also do freelance auto and computer repair on the side. THe computer repair is semi successful but the auto repair kept me busy this year, for whatever reason. I generally limit myself to small stuff like brake jobs, fluid changes, tune-ups, suspension and steering repair, minor diagnostics etc... while I'm in school. I take on larger stuff in the summer when I have more time.

Why do you ask?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-31-10, 07:45 PM
No reason, just curiosity. You've mentioned before that you were in a job that allowed you to drive lots of different cars and I always thought you were a tech or something. How do you like that Fed-Ex job? I've heard they're hard to get. The people that I know that have that job really seem to like it.

What do those Fed Ex vans have for engines? 496?

Aron9000
10-31-10, 07:53 PM
No reason, just curiosity. You've mentioned before that you were in a job that allowed you to drive lots of different cars and I always thought you were a tech or something. How do you like that Fed-Ex job? I've heard they're hard to get. The people that I know that have that job really seem to like it.

What do those Fed Ex vans have for engines? 496?

All the UPS and Fedex vans are diesel. I'm betting its a cummins 4BT, or whatever the latest 4 cylinder cummins is called in the newer vans.

drewsdeville
10-31-10, 08:38 PM
I drive semi, not vans. 1998 International 8100, day cab, single axle, with a 6 cylinder M11 Cummins. It's a gutless piece of junk with 600,000 miles.

However, the vans are a mix of gas and diesel. Whats unique about Fedex Ground over UPS is that it's all owner/operator. Those drivers all own their own vans, so there's quite a bit of diversity when it comes to configurations.

Anyway, the job is ok I guess. It's good money, but no way I'd want to make a career of it. It's been good incentive to wrap up school and move on from these crap jobs and get into a career I can actually take pride in and enjoy.

jedhead
10-31-10, 09:16 PM
A8 Although I would prefer the S8.

Bob

Playdrv4me
10-31-10, 11:34 PM
Definitely S550.

ThumperPup
11-01-10, 12:39 AM
Well maybe they used to be, but the Phaeton is out of production now, and the A8 just got a redesign.

well i didnt know that
i dont think that poll is quite fair then they need to use cars that are from the same day and age not put cars up agains each other from difrant years

ThumperPup
11-01-10, 12:42 AM
You've never "wanted" a car? I guess you're too cool, brah.

Iv driven my fair share last time i drove a BMW was when dad got the 740Li it was the first Model year they changed the body what was that 2000 or 2002 i forget one of the 2 i think
OMG that was the worst thing ever 6 months after buying it and 4 months in court he finaly won a setlment dealrship in Solon ohio had to buy it back from him
that thing was the worst headach ever
im sure they fixed all the quicks in it but ill never buy a BMW because of that

the M-S550 is a preaty cool car but im still partial on the old school big body
id rather have a S500 from 93-99 then anything newer in that line

Playdrv4me
11-01-10, 12:47 AM
The E65 7 Series is easily one of the, if not the worst car BMW ever produced. I had a 2003 (they came out in 2002) and that thing was a complete shitpile.

Aron9000
11-01-10, 02:04 AM
The E65 7 Series is easily one of the, if not the worst car BMW ever produced. I had a 2003 (they came out in 2002) and that thing was a complete shitpile.

Why was it a shitpile????

Were the mechanicals just god awful??? Or was it that they crammed way too much electronic controls in the car without doing the proper R&D to make sure all those systems would be reliable???

I'm betting on the 2nd notion, Mercedes had the same sort of electrical problems with the W220 S-class. I really could forgive the unreliable nature of the S-class/7-series/A8 if they cost the same amount of $$$ to fix as your average car, but we all know that repair costs are in line with the new $80,000 price of the car, despite you being the 2nd owner 5 years later who paid probably $20,000 for the car.

Playdrv4me
11-01-10, 02:14 AM
Or was it that they crammed way too much electronic controls in the car without doing the proper R&D to make sure all those systems would be reliable???

This. It was the first of many "firsts" in several areas... Never a good thing on a luxury brand.

I usually give BMW all the kudos compared to Merc, but in this instance, the E65 was worse than the W220. I've known at least a few W220 owners who didn't have trouble with their cars, particularly in the later years. But the problem with the E65/66 was that you could have a guy with a trouble free 2002, and another guy who was ready to drive his 2006 straight into a brick wall. I know Sal's '06 was relatively trouble free and he lucked out.

Conversely, my 2003 Range Rover was a dream compared to most... but at least it still was based on the older, easy to fix BMW electrics.

ThumperPup
11-01-10, 11:08 AM
The E65 7 Series is easily one of the, if not the worst car BMW ever produced. I had a 2003 (they came out in 2002) and that thing was a complete shitpile.

yup i knew it was one of those years i just forgot weather it was 2000 or 2002 when they started it
dads was 2002 i think maybe 2003
but yeah it took them like 3 years or so to fix everyghint hat went bad on that car OMG yeah the worst

ThumperPup
11-01-10, 11:10 AM
Why was it a shitpile????

Were the mechanicals just god awful??? Or was it that they crammed way too much electronic controls in the car without doing the proper R&D to make sure all those systems would be reliable???

I'm betting on the 2nd notion, Mercedes had the same sort of electrical problems with the W220 S-class. I really could forgive the unreliable nature of the S-class/7-series/A8 if they cost the same amount of $$$ to fix as your average car, but we all know that repair costs are in line with the new $80,000 price of the car, despite you being the 2nd owner 5 years later who paid probably $20,000 for the car.

If i can remmber i think oene of the worst things had to do with the Bop button the Multi Prupose Button in the center that controled just about evyering it was terible
and also that transmision i htink that was the first year they used that new one and it was not just electronic but somethign to do with digital also maybe im wrong there but it was the worst tranmisison from what i heard for BMW

ThumperPup
11-01-10, 11:14 AM
This. It was the first of many "firsts" in several areas... Never a good thing on a luxury brand.

I usually give BMW all the kudos compared to Merc, but in this instance, the E65 was worse than the W220. I've known at least a few W220 owners who didn't have trouble with their cars, particularly in the later years. But the problem with the E65/66 was that you could have a guy with a trouble free 2002, and another guy who was ready to drive his 2006 straight into a brick wall. I know Sal's '06 was relatively trouble free and he lucked out.

Conversely, my 2003 Range Rover was a dream compared to most... but at least it still was based on the older, easy to fix BMW electrics.

oh man that brings up old memories my friend had a 2003 Rang Rover HSE model
dark read like a burgundy
he gave it to me to drive for like 7 months whyll i was living out in LA at the time
i loved that car i think it had 180k on it and it was 4 years old because it was in 2007
it never had anyting go wrong with it at all not a think i asked him ever had any work doen to it i was thinkiing of buying it from him because i knew he was going to trade it in said nothing other then regulate maintnance i was like OMG i wanted it but couldnt afrod the tiekt on it

blue07cts
11-06-10, 12:13 AM
A8 all the way, i just love audi's restrained styling, they always sem too pull off both noticeable AND subtle, the S550 would be second. I think the S550 is most likely the best car in the class on paper however there's just something about that audi.

Aron9000
11-06-10, 10:03 PM
Although for 100k sedans, I'd much rather have this over anything else. Even though its 5 years old now, the design is still sex on wheels and nobody around here has one or knows what it is:

http://images3.ecarlist.com/photos/2240/465640/640/00.jpg

orconn
11-06-10, 11:15 PM
That Maser sedan can have space in my garage anytime!

Stingroo
11-06-10, 11:22 PM
Mmmm Quattroporte.