: Odometer tampering



CaddyEscalade
10-18-10, 10:45 AM
A friend of mine is looking for a 03-06 EXT. Recently we looked at a 2003 that only had "75,000" KM on it. Sounded great, but this thing was beat and worn out, including the things that shouldn't for that amount of miles, like the brake pedal and seats wore badly, front diff howl, rear air shocks leaking, no operable compressor, etc.

Is there a way to disable the odometers on these units? As I would be willing to bet this one is not accurate.

Gale Hawkins
10-18-10, 11:06 AM
It seems like due to gauge problems clusters do get swapped out. If the stored info is in the cluster then a new/used with less miles could change the values. Titles should note this but I guess some would fail to state that when signing over the title for financial reasons.

Our 2003 with 103K shows some seat wear but nothing demeaning to value and the brake pedal rubber shows no wear pattern like a corner rounded off, etc.

RippyPartsDept
10-18-10, 12:16 PM
I can run the VIN to check what the odometer was when it was serviced at any dealerships... beyond that there's really no way to tell

but i would run away from that one - especially with the problems you noticed

sk7
10-18-10, 06:38 PM
Millage can be adjusted via the DLC in less than 30 seconds with the right equipment! If you have doubts walk away.

CaddyEscalade
10-20-10, 09:56 AM
Thanks for the advice. I did not get the VIN# but thanks for the offer. I have always heard that the computer stores the mileage in an alternate location that the dealer can read?

TobyJohnson11
10-21-10, 12:06 AM
I don’t think it stores the mileage but it does store the number of hours the vehicle has been run. I was told that they take the number of miles (example 75000) and divide it by the number of hours (example 2500) if that number is less than 30 miles per hour on average they know it has been tampered with. No typical vehicle has an average speed of less than 30 mph for the life of the vehicle. I know there may be extended idle times in some occasions, but this is just a rule of thumb.

luxurylife33
10-21-10, 10:27 PM
Theres no problem with the cluster.... thats an Escalade for you!

TobyJohnson11
10-22-10, 01:02 PM
Theres no problem with the cluster.... thats an Escalade for you!

I disagree. I have 136k on my 04 and have no problems he listed above. My escalade has been great and I will be getting another one soon.

luxurylife33
10-22-10, 06:49 PM
I have had every problem he listed before 85k miles (except the diff howl, but according to carfax the front diff was changed at 14k miles). 75k KM is roughly 60k miles so his is a bit premature compared to my car.

Im not going on only my car.... read the rest of peoples problems on this site. The problems he listed are all pretty common for a 7 year old Escalade.

Gale Hawkins
10-22-10, 11:50 PM
I thought it may have been in this tread but do not see it so I guess it was another source that stated when you divide the total miles by total hours that the value should normally be 30+.

RippyPartsDept
10-22-10, 11:52 PM
there is actually a specific number to divide miles by to get the estimated engine hours...
we've had to use it a couple times when the engine hours could not be read from an old or damaged cluster
it still needs to be programmed into the new cluster so you can take your mileage and divide by whatever it is... thirty something point something...
if you're really interested i can find out the exact number for you on monday

Birdbrain
10-23-10, 01:41 AM
For the record....75,000 KM is 46,600 Miles not 60,000.

RippyPartsDept
10-23-10, 08:29 AM
don't forget - unit conversions (http://www.google.com/search?q=UNIT+CONVERSION) are easy

luxurylife33
10-23-10, 08:54 PM
For the record....75,000 KM is 46,600 Miles not 60,000.

thanks bird brain!