: Went to Philly, bought a Cadillac, and sucked on some balls.



Jesda
10-05-10, 01:16 PM
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WAKE UP DOG, YOU'RE GOING TO CLEVELAND.

I saw an ad for a 2000 Seville STS at a dealership in Cleveland. So, I set sail for the great lakes with $2800 in my pocket.

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Packed. Dog food, dog treats, water bowl.

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Gadgets and gizmos. iPad was perfect for hotel use. It turns on instantly, connects right away, browses around, pulls down my e-mail, watches some videos, and then its instant-off. I didnt even need to put it on a charger. Unfortunately, my Blackberry uses a program called Tether to run my laptop through RIM's servers, and there is no iPad client, so I brought my laptop just in case.

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Well, that's dinner.

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Having a long range is great when you're crossing the desert at night, but it unfortunately means you have fewer excuses to stop and stretch.

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Truck stops have the best bathroom stalls.

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Motel 6 is dog-friendly and lets you check out late. Unfortunately, they're not entirely consistent. The shower heads can be fantastic or awful, but the service is usually good and the price is right. I do miss my 3 and 4-star Priceline deals, but its hard to find a pet-friendly hotel when you bid.

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This 6 is nicer than most others.

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And wifi is free at most Motel 6 locations. Hyatt and Mariott sometimes charge $15-$20 per day.

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I have streaming access to all the TV shows and movies on my computer at home.

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2011 is looking to be somewhat boring for new cars.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:16 PM
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Why order new business cards when a Sharpie works?

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Greasebomb breakfast.

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London Ohio, while quite small, was PACKED with traffic at 5am (pic taken at noon). Farmers and truckers wake up early.

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Indianapolis

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Defunct Lodi GM/Chrysler auto dealership. I see more and more of these empty shells all over the country. Its really quite sad.

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Decided to skip the interstate and take the scenic route directly north to Elyria.

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Seville Road! This must be fate, right?

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Ohio is littered with small towns, mostly attractive and clean. The northern half of the state is beautiful with lots of trees and lakes.

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LOLWUT

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Reached Elyria. The scenic route was prettier and shaved 20 minutes off the drive.

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Arrived at Nick Abraham Buick/Cadillac/Nissan.

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The car was pretty dirty inside, though for $2800 it wasn't entirely unreasonable, except...

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...every single light and error message was flashing across the display. The car lurched around badly and stalled several times. We never even got off the lot. I thanked them and moved on, and they gladly refunded my deposit.

The next Seville on my list was in Wind Gap, Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, this meant I had to get on the road ASAP and missed out on hanging out with Jerry and Stephanie. [But I'll be back.]

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:17 PM
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There are active railroads all over Ohio, and they give the state a pleasing American feel.

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WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT

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Arched bridges are awesome! Apparently this style of architecture is an Ohio trademark.

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GREATEST AIR STATION EVER. You set a PSI, put the nozzle on to your valve, and let it blow. It automatically stops and beeps when it reaches the specified pressure. This must be really awesome on cold mornings, and its free!

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Sadly, it was night and I missed out on Pennsylvania's scenery.

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I rarely had to fill up, but I did anyway just to break up the boredom.

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Ran into a NASTY thunderstorm in eastern PA. Visibility was basically how you see it in this picture. I slowed to 45mph and took my time, watching for stalled vehicles, accidents, and deer. Making matters worse, PA is always under heavy construction and lane shifts were impossible to see in the rain. Imagine how unnerving it was for me to suddenly realize my lane was moving 4 feet over while a semi was next to me.

Traveling down PA-33 in these conditions was miserable and slow-moving. Water collected at the bottom of hills and the Volvo crashed into them like a fat man belly flopping into a swimming pool, but the Continental DWS tires I bought handled it well and the car remained in control.

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Arrived in Wind Gap, PA after what felt like an eternity. Snuck a pic of the car I was looking at the following day.

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Travel Inn, Wind Gap PA. Their English wasn't so great, but the room was clean. $70 got me two beds, which was kind of expensive but supply and demand worked against me.

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The rain didn't clear up until noon the following day.

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And there it was, a 2001 Seville STS. Ray is the town's trusted mechanic and this is his workshop. He demonstrated a great deal of knowledge, especially regarding head gasket issues, and was very easy to deal with. It was reassuring to see the local townspeople waving and smiling at him as they drove by.

Population: 3000 or so.

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We headed to the local post office (tiny little shack) to pick up a $1000 money order. This car, at $3800, was a grand more than the other one in Cleveland and WORTH EVERY PENNY. Its a local car he took on trade, and he had driven it several times to the coast to go work on his boat over the past year. This means it was trustworthy enough to drive all the way home.

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Except for the lumpy dashboard pad, the car was in excellent condition inside. The seat belt cover on the driver's seat also needs to be reattached. I think a clip or screw is missing.

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He wiped off the price on the windshield and sent us on our way. I'll probably buy more cars from him in the future. He charges whatever the vehicle costs at auction (if I decide to go with him and pick out a car) plus $500.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:17 PM
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More room for Newton to stretch out and a softer ride.

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This is what PA-33 is supposed to look like in normal weather. It winds through the mountains and has densely packed trees flanking each side of the road. Traffic is sparse and moves briskly.

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En route to Scranton, Ian's former hometown, made famous by "The Office"

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Scranton looks almost EXACTLY like Spokane, Washington, where I used to live. This view mirrors the view of Spokane when you enter the town on I-90 eastbound.

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Nice park downtown. People seem to love using their horns here.

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Miss Scranton?

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Steamtown Mall

This whole city is a step back into 1989. All the decor at the mall and many of the signs and structures have a Reagan/Bush-era feel to them. I imagined walking around the mall, looking at Tandy computers, and checking out cassettes at Sam Goody. Then we'd go home in the family's Chevy Celebrity and I would watch a new episode of Growing Pains.

Serious time warp, this place.

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*yawn* Scranton

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At Steamtown Mall you can walk out to the rail yard. A real steam train passes under this bridge a few times a day.

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Retired cars, being restored.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:17 PM
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Inside the steam engine cab. OH GOD SPIDERS BURN IT BURN IT

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This is an active rail yard. While we were there some box cars were being pulled and attached.

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Inside an old passenger car.

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In terms of natural scenery, Scranton is beautiful.

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Diesel power. One of my favorite engines.

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Anyone know what the big turbine is?

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Nice new paint.

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DO NOT HUMP

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Operational roundhouse in the back.

This railyard was definitely one of the big highlights of this trip.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:18 PM
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They drink A LOT OF ORANGE CRUSH in this town.

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The NBC kiosk! I picked up three bobble heads (Michael, Creed, Dwight), a Scranton "Electric City" magnet, a black "The Office" door placard, a "World's Best Boss" mug, and a Dundee Award. $92 well spent.

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Because of traffic disruptions, the Scranton sign seen in the credits of "The Office" was moved to the mall.

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Ian bought a new Samsung phone. Between the two of us, we spent more money in Scranton than anywhere else on the trip.

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Ate at a Red Lobster in Wilkes-Barre. It was WAY overpriced and the haddock was overcooked, but whatever. You eat what you can get.

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Dog got a meal from the pet supply store nearby.

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The center channel speaker was blown, so I bought a rubber GPS mounting disc at Radio Shack to cover it.

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I felt compelled to stop and watch this dirty water.

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Several of the locals stopped on the side of the road too. I guess there isn't much else to do.

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Drove to the Bank of America building at the top of a hill. From here, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (pronounced "Wilks Barry") looks like Montana or Wyoming.

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LENS FLARE DURING A LATE AFTERNOON, LIKE OUT OF A MICHAEL BAY MOVIE!
ALL THIS SHOT NEEDS IS A RANDOM BIPLANE AND A BUNCH OF ROBOTS

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The car has one exterior blemish (and three small dings). This is the one accident reported on Autocheck. Should be an easy fix for my paint guy.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:18 PM
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I really, really love this car. Its my third Seville and the first time I've ever owned more than two of anything. Usually, a car gets less interesting the second time around, but I seem to enjoy Sevilles more and more. They're like a hot bowl of clam chowder on a cold December night.

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Typical Scrantonians. Old.

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Rear parking sensors in action.

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BEEP BEEP BEEP

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BONUS!!!! I found $6 wedged in the seat cushion.

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The rubber disc was insufficient for covering the crackling speaker, so Ian bought a felt pad... then put the disc on top of it. I need to order a center speaker and reglue the dashboard pad.

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PA turnpike rocks! Limited entrance points, easy cruising, and barriers on each side to keep deer out. Paid $18 to cross the state.

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Gross. Glad I didn't buy these.

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On the way into Philly we got lost in Manayunk, which is a weird little place that looks like a tiny Italian village.

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There's communications cables all over the place and the roads are about three feet wide.

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Strange little place. Very interesting. A complete polar opposite of my spacious suburb.

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Motel 6 in Gibbstown NJ. The whole area smelled pretty bad, but I got used to it.

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Philly! It really is "Always Sunny", at least it was during my one day in town.

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Beautiful architecture everywhere, but narrow streets.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:18 PM
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Noticed the temp gauge rising. A "check coolant level" message came on. Did I get a Northstar with a blown head gasket? NOPE -- Ian apparently forgot to put the cap back on when he got paranoid and mucked around under the hood back in Jersey. Fortunately, the cap was still under the hood.

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Independence Hall.

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Oops. Ended up in Camden.

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Christine found an awesome $5 parking garage.

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Met up first with Matt. Checked out his 240, the now famous car that toured the country earlier this summer.

Christine noticed on Facebook that I was coming to PA. Then she invited Matt, and I looked up Joel (from NICO) and got his number.

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Joel and I have a spat on that forum going back 8 years regarding Toyota's awfulness and the invalidity of Consumer Reports. He got me a gift -- now I have 200 pages of emergency toilet paper. :P
Ian noted that he looked like Leo Laporte, the guy from ZDTV/TechTV.
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I imagined him to have a tobacco pipe and a beard for some reason. I was ready to fight him. I even brought my big scary dog.

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Christine took us to Chinatown for some noodles. Since I'm a first-gen immigrant, this was probably her way of accomodating me. I was waiting for her to ask me if I was friends with Pikachu.

[I kid!]

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It smelled like a mix of Bangkok and Pike's Place market in Seattle, and I liked it.

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HOLY CRAP THATS A BIG BOWL OF PHO. I decked it out with tripe and tendons, the unappreciated bits of goodness. The gelatinous, sweet bits that get left behind.

Christine introduced me to bubble tea, which always sounded gross when described to me but was actually pretty good. It tasted like mom's thai coconut desserts, but more liquidy.
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You have to be careful with the straw when sucking the balls at the bottom as they tend to fly up the shaft at high speed. If the balls end up in your throat you could require a reacharound to get relief.

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Example: Relief.

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:19 PM
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Matt

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Joel

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Christine

I was trying to get everyone's mid-slurp photo without them noticing or giving permission. Christine ruined my awesome action shot by looking at the camera.

I was all like:
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And then I:
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And finally I:
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Ian hates people so he pretended to poop while he disappeared for half an hour.

Actually, Ian later revealed that he clogged the toilet in that tiny restaurant and felt horribly embarrassed because someone went in right after him. I guess that's less awkward than when Christine walked in on a woman sitting on the can (the bathroom door was unlocked). She got an eyeful of sh*tting Chinese lady right before ordering her food, so that was her appetizer.

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I snuck a pic of the asian market where I bought Yan Yan and a drink (some shopkeepers don't like when you take pictures of their stores, so I was being subtle).
Ian thought I was taking a creeper pic of the girl, which I wasn't (for once), but since she's in there its a bonus. Nice a**, and I'm going to let myself believe her face was a 10.

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Joel said that for a very long time, this pointy government building was the tallest structure in Philadelphia.

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A pleasingly jarring mix of modern and historic architecture. While Philadelphia is aged and a bit gritty, its quite charming. The people are friendly and there's always something going on, things to eat, things to see, and places to be. It has the feel of Chicago with MUCH less of the congestion.

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Ian, Joel, Matt, Daria, and Newton.
Nice to finally meet these folks after talking to them online for 7 or 8 years.

Joel has driven possibly every sports car ever made. I vicariously lived through his vivid and colorful description of the Audi R8. Being a performance driving instructor might be the greatest hobby/job ever, ever, ever, ever. [Ever.]

Matt is the MASTER OF AMERICAN TRAVEL *bow down*
http://forums.nicoclub.com/8-700-mile-road-trip-in-a-22-year-old-hand-built-240sx-t503925.html

and Christine is friggin hilarious.

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OMG NSX!

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:19 PM
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A teal green 900 convertible! (I get giddy when I see a classic 900 in good shape)

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Joel's stone-reliable 4Runner

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Adding distilled water to make up for what was lost when Ian left my cap off.

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Unable to find parking near Gino's or Pat's, we decided to stop at Phil's for a cheesesteak instead, which Ian found on the GPS directory.

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LET ME TELL YOU, THIS WAS AWESOME. The cheese whiz makes all the difference. I hate how I can't find a cheesesteak like this anywhere else. Provolone is nice, but it doesn't compare to the salty goodness of whiz.

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This intersection is spacious, but most of south Philly has narrow carriageways and corridors that cars can barely fit through. Navigating the Cadillac around that maze was like threading a sewing needle with a rope.

Unfortunately, with a research paper due and lots of work to catch up on (and a Volvo to sell) I had to hit the road right after lunch.


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I LOVE TUNNELS! PA turnpike rocks.

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I bought a cup of meat and cheese.

Since Ian can't drive a stick, he got to enjoy my new car on the drive home while I drove the Volvo.

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WTF IS THAT?!?

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Ohio, approaching Columbus on 70

Jesda
10-05-10, 01:19 PM
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The contrast in highway design from PA to OH is dramatic. In PA, four narrow lanes are squeezed into a tight space with tall concrete dividers in between and on each side. Ramps have stop signs.
Out in the midwest, you get 10-lane behemoths in urban areas or four-lane highways with enough space in between to park three semis. Merging lanes are long enough for a 747 to take off.
I kind of like how the stop signs on the ramps in PA keep mergers from disrupting the flow of traffic.

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Anyone know what this is?

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I got home first but Ian had the house key. I was forced to break in and crawl through my window. As I was crawling, my neighbor came out and his dog barked loudly thinking I was an intruder. I had to explain that I was locked out and no one was home. Thankfully he knew who I was after I gave him an apology gift basket back in July (stereo turned itself on at full blast, remained on all night while I was out of town).

Yes, laying on the ground, the first thing I thought of was to take a photo.

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The same night, I got an email from a guy who wanted to buy the Volvo. I hadn't slept at all since arriving home and he was eager to come get the car first thing in the morning. So, I told him I'd pop in the new blower resistor and have it ready for him. Well, the f***ing electrical system in the Volvo is similar to the BMW 7-series. You can't just go around plugging and unplugging things without setting off 20 codes.

It took me 3 hours to get the glove box out and remove the blower and resistor, and then I struggled with the climate control unit that was apparently dead and an air bag failure message that appeared.

Since it was already 4am, I stayed up all night and drove to Brentwood Volvo at 6:30a to get the car fixed. I told the guy coming from Indiana that he needed to wait until I figured out what was going on.

Fortunately, I didn't fry the climate control unit, which is apparently a common and VERY EXPENSIVE problem. They reset the SRS error for free (WHY DOES THE AIR BAG CIRCUITRY RUN THROUGH THE CLIMATE CONTROL UNIT!?!?!?) and replaced the blower, which I apparently shorted somehow.

$650 and everything was fixed, thankfully, with the glove box reinstalled much better than how I left it. I nagged my service writer to put a rush on it and they delivered.

I got $5000 for the Volvo and sent him on his way. He was a stick shift newbie so he had some issues getting used to it, but while the clutch and shifter are heavy in the S60, they're very positive and easy to figure out.

I'm baffled by the monster pile of 20s. He said he had to use the ATM to get the money out because the banks were closed by the time he left. Its sitting here on my desk and the stack is partly obscuring the bottom of my monitor. I feel like a drug dealer.

Bought Volvo: $5300
$150 - tires
$100 - blower resistor
$650 - blower + labor
$33 - tow for fuel pump failure
$0 - fuel pump, recalled
$0 - ETM, warranty extension
$450 - tax, registration, and plates

Miles driven: 4,500

Sale price: $5000

Loss: $1683

Owning yet another interesting piece of the automotive world: Not exactly priceless. In fact, its usually quite expensive.


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Now, what do I do with this CR buying guide that Joel gave me? The dog didn't want to eat it.

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It won't flush down the toilet.

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I guess I'm stuck with it. Its actually a pretty awesome souvenir. :)

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Two big black dots. Consumer Reports hates my car, LOL
I'll post a more detailed review of the Cadillac later.


Sorry to anyone I didn't get to see! It was an unplanned trip.

Florian
10-05-10, 01:44 PM
sorry we couldnt hook up, Jesda...it was a shitty wknd for me.

F

slk230mb
10-05-10, 02:01 PM
As usual, a great road trip thread. More pics of the STS when you can.

iowasevillests
10-05-10, 02:03 PM
Another classic post, I love it and congrats on the new car, glad its american and shouldn't be as much of a money pit as your others!

Now on to your WTF's, sorry for not including the pictures, I've got limited time

WTF #1: The weird looking construction equipment on the bed of a lowboy semi would be a road compacter with sheeps foot rollers. Used to compact road bases/building sites etc while getting the grade to the proper height before spreading sand/gravel then pouring concrete etc

WTF #2: The great big turbine thingy on the front of the train car is a snow blower if I'm not mistaken. They would use those(and still do today) to clear snow drifted tracks, they generally spin rather slowly because of the massive size and also to limit vibrations in order to prevent setting off an avalenche when clearing in mountain passes

WTF #3: The giant spikey thing on a trailer...not sure....possible a piece of high voltage electrical substation equipment but hard to tell from that angle

ga_etc
10-05-10, 02:42 PM
The STS is really sharp Jesda. I approve immensely. It needs to make a trip to GA! Was it kind of odd driving the Vulva on a road trip like that while shopping for it's replacement?

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 02:51 PM
Another classic post, I love it and congrats on the new car, glad its american and shouldn't be as much of a money pit as your others!

Now on to your WTF's, sorry for not including the pictures, I've got limited time

WTF #1: The weird looking construction equipment on the bed of a lowboy semi would be a road compacter with sheeps foot rollers. Used to compact road bases/building sites etc while getting the grade to the proper height before spreading sand/gravel then pouring concrete etc

WTF #2: The great big turbine thingy on the front of the train car is a snow blower if I'm not mistaken. They would use those(and still do today) to clear snow drifted tracks, they generally spin rather slowly because of the massive size and also to limit vibrations in order to prevent setting off an avalenche when clearing in mountain passes


w00t! That's *exactly* what I told him they were. Noob.


Since Ian prefers not to drive a Volvo with a shitty shift engagement halfway across the country, he got to drive the new car instead...

Fixed.

orconn
10-05-10, 02:52 PM
Interesting, your comments on Ohio, I finished my senior year of high school in Cambridge, Ohio and my family lived there for another year and a half. Cambridge is in Southeastern Ohio and the scenery is very nice ... lots of desiduous trees and rolling hills, lakes and small rivers. I had never lived in the Mid West before and found Ohio very pretty with very nice people, and I might add an above average number of good looking women (remember I am a native Californian). It is a shame that Ohio has so suffered from the "Rust Belt" syndrome over the 50 years. Indiana and Illinois (with exeception of Chicago and suburbs) don't do anything for me, but rural Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin (the other Mid Western states that I know) are really nice places to live with good scenery and intelligent, well educated people.

Philadelphia has its' attractions if you come from a "historically deprived" locale. I spent my early teenage years in thhe Philadelphia area (family lived in Moorestoen, NJ and I went to boarding school in Bucks County) and was a denison of Philadelphia's center city in the late fifties and early sixties. Before urban renewal started to take place in the seventies Philadelphia could have rightfully claimed the titled of the "Used Brick Capital" of the world. What a dump (some nice suburbs though!). I have been back many times over the years, as my wife's family live in South Jersey and one of my best friends was one of the city photographers. I can honestly say that Philly, "The City of Brotherly Love" is one of the most racially bigotted and class snobbish places I have ever been in the world. Richmond, VA is a model of good inter racial feelings in comparison. South Jersey and Greater Philadelphia are the two of the most parochial and closed minded places I have lived in the U.S. I was surprised to see that the Chinatown area had changed so little since i used to go there to eat in the fifties. The "former tallest building" in your picture is Phladelpia's City Hall with its' notorious "Pidgin Shit Dash" center courtyard! Glad you got a chance to visit Camden, NJ the "East St. Louis" of the Mid-Atlantic!

Jesda
10-05-10, 03:05 PM
w00t! That's *exactly* what I told him they were. Noob.

Fixed.

If you were faced with the choice of driving 2000 miles in an automatic Corolla or a manual S2000, you'd pick the Corolla.

orconn
10-05-10, 03:16 PM
^^^ As much as I like the Honda S2000 as a recreational sportscar, I might choose the Carolla too for a 2000 mile trip. Not sure, but I might!

Ian's inability to drive a stick shift greatly undermines his credibilty as a "car guy!" This regretable situation should be remediated ASAP!

gdwriter
10-05-10, 03:52 PM
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Packed. Dog food, dog treats, water bowl.

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Love the picture of Newton. Is he getting better at road trips?

Hoover travels with me so much that he actually has his own duffel bag with treats, food, a tie-out, poop bags and a couple of toys. He also has a small cooler for his water. If he sees either one of those things, he knows he's going somewhere and will get all antsy and squeaky. So I avoid filling his cooler with water until just before it's time to leave and ask the all important question, "Hoover, do you want to go for a ride?"

Glad you found such a nice Seville (I would have passed on the one in Cleveland over that filthy interior alone); I'm jealous of the sunroof; it's about the only thing Sabrina doesn't have that I'd want. It's well known around here how much I love mine. After 20 months and nearly 30,000 miles, Sabrina still puts a smile on my face all the time. Hope you enjoy yours as much.

As usual, love your road trip threads and all the interesting things you end up seeing. BTW, if you stayed on U.S. 20 and headed west, eventually you'd end up a 1/2 mile from my office.

orconn
10-05-10, 04:13 PM
^^^ Newton looks like he's thinking, "Well, he finally got a decent car! Thank God!" in the picture above. Even Beagles know a good thing when they find it!

ryannel2003
10-05-10, 04:17 PM
I've been waiting for this thread since I found out you bought a Seville (Yes I know... no life). Congrats! Same exact car as mine minus the 17" wheels and sunroof. Sterling Silver is a really beautiful color and when clean looks really great. The metallic really shines in the sun.

Hope you enjoy it!

HAZZARDJOHN
10-05-10, 04:32 PM
The "electrical thingy" is a siemens Gas Circuit breaker for an electrical substation. I designed electrical substations for five years and I work at a nuclear plant so trust me on this. I am just guessing it is 330KV.

~HJ

Stingroo
10-05-10, 04:56 PM
Next car Jesda buys should come from Florida.

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 04:59 PM
^^^ As much as I like the Honda S2000 as a recreational sportscar, I might choose the Carolla too for a 2000 mile trip. Not sure, but I might!

Ian's inability to drive a stick shift greatly undermines his credibilty as a "car guy!" This regretable situation should be remediated ASAP!

LOL, I can drive a stick (you may or may not remember that a few years ago I bought Jesda's 1990 Nissan Maxima to tool around in Florida while I waited to buy another car, and I learned how to drive stick proficiently in that one), but that Volvo had a very unpleasant shifter and I actually never drove it, so I didn't want to just drive it out of the blue on a 1000 mile trip while I attempted to "learn" it. Two other people (one of our friends and the guy who ended up buying the car) had A LOT of difficulty keeping it from stalling or chirping tires while they tried to figure out how to modulate the shift action. Before the return trip began I actually contemplated taking the Volvo, since driving a relatively unknown Seville cross country is NOT for the faint of heart. Had some tense moments in the beginning (due to my own stupidity) but we got along swimmingly after about the first 200 miles.

Jesda
10-05-10, 05:06 PM
Nope. When he bought my Maxima, he actually had his mom drive him around. She dropped him off at daycare.

gdwriter
10-05-10, 05:40 PM
Except for the lumpy dashboard pad, the car was in excellent condition inside. The seat belt cover on the driver's seat also needs to be reattached. I think a clip or screw is missing.I have the same problem with Sabrina. There are a couple of screws on the front piece that sit down into a bracket, then the back piece snaps into place. I think a broken clip somewhere on the back piece, so it will sometimes come loose.

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 05:45 PM
Looks like its time for the next Caddy meet!

gdwriter
10-05-10, 05:59 PM
Before the return trip began I actually contemplated taking the Volvo, since driving a relatively unknown Seville cross country is NOT for the faint of heart. Had some tense moments in the beginning (due to my own stupidity) but we got along swimmingly after about the first 200 miles.Why is that? I felt at home immediately in mine. Granted, I wasn't driving it cross-country to get home.

But other than leaving the coolant tank cap off, did you do any other dumb-ass things? :rofl:

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 06:08 PM
Why is that? I felt at home immediately in mine. Granted, I wasn't driving it cross-country to get home.

But other than leaving the coolant tank cap off, did you do any other dumb-ass things?

Our Sevilles have recently been in the lowest common denominator arena on price, and having owned as many of them as I have and knowing the kind of things they like to do even when they're in mint condition, I always get a little nervous driving them long distances home. That happens to be the case with me in general though on anything outside of a 3800 Powered Buick. Its fun, and nerve-wracking at the same time. Anyway, I had added just over a half gallon of distilled water when the check coolant level message came on in Philly after I left that stupid cap off and it had evaporated. It was fine until I got out on the highway and drove about 75 miles when the message came on again. I was freaking out thinking the thing was consuming coolant until Jesda reminded me that I added the coolant while the engine was at running temp and its only full when cold. So I added the rest of that distilled water jug I had purchased and then the car was just fine the rest of the 800 or so miles home, and since we've been driving around in the city, probably about 1000 miles total so far.

Its funny you mention the coolant cap thing because while *I* didn't do any other dumb ass things to it, the guy who sold it to us was mistakenly given a 5 quart oil change "kit" by the parts store when he graciously changed the oil for us before leaving. Everything was semi hurried because he didn't expect us to be at the dealership so early. Somehow he overlooked that the actual capacity of the N* is 7.5qts, so not only did the poor car lose some of its coolant when I left the cap off, it was also running 3 quarts low on oil for about 100 miles! Strangely, the "check oil level" message did not come on until we had driven it out of the dealership for quite some time.

Damn Sevilles.

ben.gators
10-05-10, 06:29 PM
Your STS seems to be in a good condition. Congrats for it.... I am eagerly waiting to read your deep review, and much more important, the comparison between VOLVO S60, Lincoln LS, and STS. By the way, what happened that you suddenly got rid of the VOVLO?
About overheating, I would have a heart attack if I were in your shoes, and then if I could survive it, I would kick Ian's ass so hard because of the cap! :D

At the end I am happy that your returned back to the Cadi world again... By observing the list of your repairs during your short ownership of Volvo we see again that Cadillacs are not the most unreliable cars in the world... All cars, except very basic cars like Corolla or Civic, have their own problems, the important thing is how much you enjoy your ride...and Cadillacs are among the best...

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 06:40 PM
Your STS seems to be in a good condition. Congrats for it.... I am eagerly waiting to read your deep review, and much more important, the comparison between VOLVO S60, Lincoln LS, and STS. By the way, what happened that you suddenly got rid of the VOVLO?
About overheating, I would have a heart attack if I were in your shoes, and then if I could survive it, I would kick Ian's ass so hard because of the cap! :D

At the end I am happy that your returned back to the Cadi world again... By observing the list of your repairs during your short ownership of Volvo we see again that Cadillacs are not the most unreliable cars in the world... All cars, except very basic cars like Corolla or Civic, have their own problems, the important thing is how much you enjoy your ride...and Cadillacs are among the best...

LOL Ben, it never actually overheated. When we were idling in city traffic the needle creeped a couple of mm past TDC (which some would even say is normal, though I don't think its supposed to) and then the Check Coolant Level warning appeared. That's when I remembered that I hadn't replaced the cap since I was checking oil level and coolant at the same time.

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 06:44 PM
Hey man you came to Cleveland and didnt let me know

and you brought you doggie wich seems to be a pure bread beagle and and i have a pure bread beagle also

they could have played as we sucked down a few beers and shots man

what dealership was that that you whent to for the caddy here in Cleveland saw one the other day at a dealership on clevelands west side very single light was one wouldnt that be funky if we where lookinga t the same car LOL

ejguillot
10-05-10, 06:47 PM
Jesda, that's a very nice STS! The fact that you got that nice an STS for $3800 is great (for you, I get depressed to think what the sale value of my 2000 STS is these days!) :P

Good luck with it. I still like mine, but wish that it had OnStar (so I could do the Bluetooth conversion).

Florian
10-05-10, 06:50 PM
Hey man you came to Cleveland and didnt let me know

and you brought you doggie wich seems to be a pure bread beagle and and i have a pure bread beagle also

they could have played as we sucked down a few beers and shots man

what dealership was that that you whent to for the caddy here in Cleveland saw one the other day at a dealership on clevelands west side very single light was one wouldnt that be funky if we where lookinga t the same car LOL

From the pix it looked like Arch Abraham's used car lot. That place is, well.....not so savory.


F

gary88
10-05-10, 06:55 PM
Nice pics!

Does yours have the highway shimmy? My SLS had it from about 68-75mph and it was really unnerving at times.

ben.gators
10-05-10, 07:00 PM
Jesda, that's a very nice STS! The fact that you got that nice an STS for $3800 is great (for you, I get depressed to think what the sale value of my 2000 STS is these days!) :P

Good luck with it. I still like mine, but wish that it had OnStar (so I could do the Bluetooth conversion).

And the same goes for me too... The best thing to do is keeping the cars till they fall apart.... (And I really doubt it happens for a well kept STS)

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:03 PM
Nice pics!

Does yours have the highway shimmy? My SLS had it from about 68-75mph and it was really unnerving at times.

I know your feeling on that mines got it also only way i ever get ride of it is the road force balance i have had the tie rods ball joints wheel bearings breaks all checked evyeorne tells me not a thing is wrong evyeirng is tight where it should be and loose where it needs to be
and no one can figure out what is up with the shimmy
but when i get the road force its next to perfect atleast for about 5k after that i gota get it doen again unless i hit a pot hole then its sooner

Jesda
10-05-10, 07:04 PM
Hey man you came to Cleveland and didnt let me know

and you brought you doggie wich seems to be a pure bread beagle and and i have a pure bread beagle also

they could have played as we sucked down a few beers and shots man

what dealership was that that you whent to for the caddy here in Cleveland saw one the other day at a dealership on clevelands west side very single light was one wouldnt that be funky if we where lookinga t the same car LOL

Yep, one of these days if (when) I come back to Cleveland we'll hang out. I also tried to get together with Florian but everyone's schedules just weren't meshing together that day. Got dog pics?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-05-10, 07:06 PM
Cool stuff Jesda! That turbine on the front of the train is actually a giant rotary snowblower they mount on the engine for going through the mountain passes.

Here's a youtube video of one in action
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ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:07 PM
yeah but im trying to figure out hwo to put it on here LOL
when it says inset image it only opens up a link to wanting me to type in an adress hmm

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:08 PM
Ok i think i got this

Jesda
10-05-10, 07:11 PM
Cute beagle!!! I think mine is pure, but I dont have paperwork or anything to prove it.

ryannel2003
10-05-10, 07:18 PM
Since we're now showing dog pics... here's Suzie. She's only a year or so old here, but it's the best pic I got. She can be bitchy, but I love her.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/IMG_0998.jpg

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:28 PM
aww shes so cute

My girls name is Lady short for Lady Blue and Lady Bug
she is a Blue Beagle
they are a rear breed 1 in 300 come out blue and both parents have ot be Blue beagles you can tell from the white and grey in there furr but really what it is is a blue tone


what is it about us caddy ppl we own beagles ?
now we got more in comon not jsut caddys but dogs also lol

oh and they are sevilles also lol

gdwriter
10-05-10, 07:31 PM
LOL Ben, it never actually overheated. When we were idling in city traffic the needle creeped a couple of mm past TDC (which some would even say is normal, though I don't think its supposed to).When I test drove Sabrina, the salesman let me take her for a good 20-mile drive; I wanted to make sure there were no overheating issues. The needle goes to TDC and parks.

Only once has it moved past TDC, and that was just barely. Last summer, I was following a friend in his Audi A4 Turbo on the Lewiston Grade (http://travellogs.us/2007Logs/Idaho%202007/91-Lewiston%20Hill/91bb-Lewiston%20Hill%20on%20US-95.htm) on US95 in Idaho. This is a 2,000-ft. climb in just seven miles (a 6-7% grade) with five runaway truck ramps. These are from the trip down:

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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs181.snc1/6010_120982653093_776743093_2217929_8262390_n.jpg

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On the way back up Sam and I were both leadfooting it, probably doing 65-70 MPH (I think the instant mileage readout was 6 MPG):

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It was in the 90s when we climbed the grade (and the A/C was going full blast), but the needle just barely moved, not even clear of the TDC mark. And once we reached the top, it went right back down.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v5203/117/61/776743093/n776743093_2218000_5980092.jpg

Jesda
10-05-10, 07:35 PM
what happened that you suddenly got rid of the VOVLO?


Bum knee + heavy clutch = Ouch

Too bad, because the S60 is a very nice car, but the STS is of course nicer (and $1500 cheaper)

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:36 PM
i wish i could still take lady on road trips but last time i was able to take her out on one was about 2 years ago
she used to be ok if i would leave her in the hotel room for a bit she would just sleep
didnt need her cage with her or anyting
we stayed at the Manhatan Mariott Mark hotel and i left the room for 5 minutes to go get a soada i came back and the room was demolised the shades where pulled down and shreded the tv was on the floor easy to push since it was a LCD or plasma not sure but it was flatt and easy
lets see pillow was sheded those shates they have over the lamps well it had oles in it

i can say the hotel charged my credit card 500 dollars for there INS deductable i think they said she damaged over 2000 dollars is what the claim was for

i tried another trip ones took her cage with her i left her in the room for 5 minutes whent down to buy a news paper and hotel desk clerk said they had 5 complaints she was holing to loud
she only howled when she got uspet
she whent bazirk so i cant do this i cant take her anywhere anymore not sure why but up untill she turned 2 she was fine but now she just goes nutzo

ben.gators
10-05-10, 07:38 PM
LOL Ben, it never actually overheated. When we were idling in city traffic the needle creeped a couple of mm past TDC (which some would even say is normal, though I don't think its supposed to) and then the Check Coolant Level warning appeared. That's when I remembered that I hadn't replaced the cap since I was checking oil level and coolant at the same time.

LOL, You do not know Ian, I have a friend, wait, I am not sure the term friend is suitable, maybe the torturer makes more sense! I believe he is created and customized just to mess with me, my life, and my Cadillac... Here is some of the stories:

1: My STS has a burned bulb, I am trying to replace the bulb, but it sticks to socket. He says let me try and I am fool enough to let him!!! The next I remember is he is holding a wire cutter in hand trying to cut the wires from the socket... And at the last moment I could grab the cutter from his hands and then I was chasing him to cut his balls with the wire cutter!

2: It is in the middle of the night, and we are in my STS riding in a rural road. He asks can he smoke in the car and simultaneously I feel smoke blowing in my face... I immediately pulled over to through him out of my car leaving him alone in the desert by this hope that one of those Mexican pirates find him and rape his hairy skinny ass! But I do not suggest raping him to anybody, since I believe he has all discovered and undiscovered STDs!

3: Once he asked me to borrow him my STS, and again I was fool enough to do it.... He returns the car back after couple of hours saying that: Why you dont take care of your car! Your tire pressures were low and I inflated them, and he said this like he has done me some favor! Me: What? they were good, what is the pressure right now? He: 40 PSI! Me: I am chasing him trying to put a air pump in his butt hole and inflate him till he explodes!

These stories were just a sample! Right now I even do not let him look at my car! And I have moved from Tempe to Mesa just to keep a distance from him! However still he has my number and sometimes call me. This is my last conversation with him:

He: Hey Ben, I am going to Walmart and I will have a lot of shopping. Bring your cadillac to put my stuff in your car. I do not want to put them in my Scion!

Me: You #$^&%^$. I am going to @#$^^$.... Is my STS your truck? and I hang up the phone! I need to change my number as well!!!

ryannel2003
10-05-10, 07:38 PM
When we got her, the guy said Suzie is a rabbit beagle. Now I'm not sure what that means exactly but she is small in size and she isn't any bigger now than when I took that picture. I know most beagle's get quite a lot bigger than she is. She's now just turning 6 and she is great. We had another beagle before her named Bunnie and she too was a rabbit beagle. Tragically, she was poisoned by our neighbors with anti-freeze. We couldn't prove it, but we spend thousands trying to save her but when the doctor told us they found anti-freeze in her lungs (and we don't have any anti-freeze at our home) we knew it was over. That, with the fact our neighbors despised us really didn't make it hard to figure out. Bunnie was a sweet dog. She didn't bark at a soul and would come up to anybody. Suzie does not like outsiders unless she gets to know you. I love her though.

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:39 PM
Bum knee + heavy clutch = Ouch

Too bad, because the S60 is a very nice car, but the STS is of course nicer (and $1500 cheaper)

i feel you on that
had the Lincoln LS 02 with the manual i loved that car had it for abotu 3 months bought it when i got back from China in 2004 Febuary left for israel in May of 2004 came back in June of 04 with broken ankles left ankles should i say anymore torn acl and i just couldnt do that clutch hurt me to much sold the LS i paid like 9 for it at the auction hhad 29k on it sold it fast for 16k still way below Book but almost doubled my money

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:47 PM
When we got her, the guy said Suzie is a rabbit beagle. Now I'm not sure what that means exactly but she is small in size and she isn't any bigger now than when I took that picture. I know most beagle's get quite a lot bigger than she is. She's now just turning 6 and she is great. We had another beagle before her named Bunnie and she too was a rabbit beagle. Tragically, she was poisoned by our neighbors with anti-freeze. We couldn't prove it, but we spend thousands trying to save her but when the doctor told us they found anti-freeze in her lungs (and we don't have any anti-freeze at our home) we knew it was over. That, with the fact our neighbors despised us really didn't make it hard to figure out. Bunnie was a sweet dog. She didn't bark at a soul and would come up to anybody. Suzie does not like outsiders unless she gets to know you. I love her though.

oh no im sorry to hear that if i lived closer i would take care of that nabore for you
when i was younger in school i was a animal advocate yes i would go in and fight for the rites of animals
and i saw to it that 12 ppl when i was younger whent to prisone for animal abuse

most beagles are smaller id say 80 percent of beagles are the 13-14 inch there are 20 percent that are the 16-17 inch

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 07:49 PM
Jesda, that's a very nice STS! The fact that you got that nice an STS for $3800 is great (for you, I get depressed to think what the sale value of my 2000 STS is these days!) :P

Good luck with it. I still like mine, but wish that it had OnStar (so I could do the Bluetooth conversion).

Whoa that sounds awesome, what exactly is "the bluetooth conversion"? The silver 2001 has OnStar but its not the digital OnStar, can that still be converted for use with bluetooth?

ben.gators
10-05-10, 07:56 PM
It was in the 90s when we climbed the grade (and the A/C was going full blast), but the needle just barely moved, not even clear of the TDC mark. And once we reached the top, it went right back down.



I am experiencing something different... When I drive the car very fast in highways, or very aggressive having full WOT, needle stucks at 12:00. But after a very hard driving when I stop the car or reduce the speed to 20MPH or less while AC is off, the needle move to 12:15. However when I start to drive the car fast again, or turn on the AC, needle returns back to 12:00 and stays there. I believe this is totally normal since in low speeds when AC is off blowers goes off and if the engine body is still hot because of past aggressive driving, the temp of coolant climbs up. My STS has 132K miles on it, original engine and HG! I am using the STS as daily driver, 20 miles per day, and she is ultra reliable for me, beside being very comfortable, very fast, very safe, and very classy!

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 07:56 PM
Whoa that sounds awesome, what exactly is "the bluetooth conversion"? The silver 2001 has OnStar but its not the digital OnStar, can that still be converted for use with bluetooth?

the unit they are speaking of is called Blue Star i wish i had onstar in my Caddy 2000 because if i had the ONstar i could get the Blue Star but i dont so i cant wich = :( how the hell does someone buy a 50k car and not put onstar in it lol
thats just pittifull

if you google blue star or even go into the search box just type in BlueStar or Blue Star and youll find it

Jesda
10-05-10, 08:04 PM
Looks like Bluestar is only 02+

Playdrv4me
10-05-10, 08:07 PM
When I test drove Sabrina, the salesman let me take her for a good 20-mile drive; I wanted to make sure there were no overheating issues. The needle goes to TDC and parks.

Only once has it moved past TDC, and that was just barely. Last summer, I was following a friend in his Audi A4 Turbo on the Lewiston Grade (http://travellogs.us/2007Logs/Idaho%202007/91-Lewiston%20Hill/91bb-Lewiston%20Hill%20on%20US-95.htm) on US95 in Idaho. This is a 2,000-ft. climb in just seven miles (a 6-7% grade) with five runaway truck ramps. These are from the trip down:

On the way back up Sam and I were both leadfooting it, probably doing 65-70 MPH (I think the instant mileage readout was 6 MPG):


It was in the 90s when we climbed the grade (and the A/C was going full blast), but the needle just barely moved, not even clear of the TDC mark. And once we reached the top, it went right back down.

What was curious about this STS was that the whole time I was cruising on the highway, and even sometimes in town, the needle not only didn't cross over TDC, but it hangs out right around 11 o'clock! Except when the cap was missing of course. Once idling around town it will go up to TDC or just under, but as soon as you get into a cruise again it goes back down between 11 and 12.

gdwriter
10-05-10, 08:07 PM
That's horrible about your dog, Ryan and too bad Lady doesn't do well traveling.

I love having Hoover with me on road trips. His hotel manners are impeccable. I can leave him in the room to go get dinner, and he'll just sack out on the bed. I know I'm very spoiled by having such a well-behaved dog, but it does make my life easier.

Jesda
10-05-10, 08:14 PM
I don't know who the hell trained Newton, but he sure is calm by himself in a hotel room, except two nights ago when he peed at Red Roof Inn. I grabbed the sheets and immediately washed them in the sink. My friend who will remain nameless just left the piss there (sheets removed but still piss soaked) until I got back. Pee leaves stains! Stains result in cleaning charges!

Still, I'd rather he stayed home or went to Petropolis. They have a swimming pool, group play, and completely indulge him with treats and toys.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-05-10, 08:22 PM
Still, I'd rather he stayed home or went to Petropolis. They have a swimming pool, group play, and completely indulge him with treats and toys.

Oh that's ****ing awesome! Bravo to whomever came up with that one.

orconn
10-05-10, 08:30 PM
When we got her, the guy said Suzie is a rabbit beagle. Now I'm not sure what that means exactly but she is small in size and she isn't any bigger now than when I took that picture. I know most beagle's get quite a lot bigger than she is. She's now just turning 6 and she is great. We had another beagle before her named Bunnie and she too was a rabbit beagle. Tragically, she was poisoned by our neighbors with anti-freeze. We couldn't prove it, but we spend thousands trying to save her but when the doctor told us they found anti-freeze in her lungs (and we don't have any anti-freeze at our home) we knew it was over. That, with the fact our neighbors despised us really didn't make it hard to figure out. Bunnie was a sweet dog. She didn't bark at a soul and would come up to anybody. Suzie does not like outsiders unless she gets to know you. I love her though.

I thought all Beagles were "rabbit dogs," I can't imagine one going after a Fox! I had a Beagle named Susie Q when I was a kid growing up. Actually Beagles come in several sizes each a separate show class. My Susie was also a small Beagle. If you have a Beagle that doesn't bark or bay all the time you are indeed lucky. I am very sorry you lost "Bunny" and particualarly so under the circumstances of her demise. Unfortunately antifreeze poisining is all to common.

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 09:11 PM
Here in Cleveland we have what is called the Pet Motel its called the Barkley

same as you gots its got a pool for the dogs a semie heated hot tub for them to relax in and private rooms with tv monitors for the really rich doggies to watch there facoti shows lol
and closed caption online monitors so you can log onto there website and watch over your pet

RippyPartsDept
10-05-10, 09:45 PM
so who's been watching the apprentice?

(doggie hotels was the task last week)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-05-10, 11:17 PM
So, maybe I missed it, but where was the "ball sucking" part of this thread that was promised in the title?

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 11:21 PM
I thought all Beagles were "rabbit dogs," I can't imagine one going after a Fox! I had a Beagle named Susie Q when I was a kid growing up. Actually Beagles come in several sizes each a separate show class. My Susie was also a small Beagle. If you have a Beagle that doesn't bark or bay all the time you are indeed lucky. I am very sorry you lost "Bunny" and particualarly so under the circumstances of her demise. Unfortunately antifreeze poisining is all to common.



Acutaly its not that they where born to be rabit dogs thats just a notion and a hack that someone gave them a long time ago
Beagles where actualy all sorts of hunting dogs
There noses alow them the sent of 10 x the sent of a snouzer or any terires german shepards and not to mention any of the other 300 breds there are lol

I am a certified dog groomer pet stylist

90 percent of the beagles yes where trained as rabit dogs

If i where to have had lady trained as a service animal By law with the contract that i sighned when i adopted her she would only be permited to work as a TSA Sniffer
if TSA wishes they can come to my home take lady and put her threw training she will come home to me each nite but during the day her trainer and her handler will pick her up take her to classes and when clases are doen they can then put her to work at the Airports she would come back to me each nite when not working
leagly they can do this
because both her parents are TSA Sniffing Beagles at 2 of the largest Airporst on the North East Coast

how ever they would not do this because she is to old to be trained for this after 2 years
and it would screw her mind up because well she is my dog i trained her already and i could get past her with anyting i wanted wich is a threat level so they would not do this
this is why the only TSA working dogs are the ones who are with there owners same reason police dogs there partner there handler are there owners also
a dog even a police dog is considered property

how ever the good thing about this is i can fly anywhere i wish not have to put her in a crate she gets to wear a badge showing that her parents are work animals she gets special treatment when travling or well when we did travel and not by car lol

ThumperPup
10-05-10, 11:22 PM
So, maybe I missed it, but where was the "ball sucking" part of this thread that was promised in the title?

i was wondering just this myself LOL

ga_etc
10-05-10, 11:27 PM
Probably in some dark alley to ensure safe passage home...

ga_etc
10-05-10, 11:30 PM
You have to be careful with the straw when sucking the balls at the bottom as they tend to fly up the shaft at high speed. If the balls end up in your throat you could require a reacharound to get relief.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2EzEBbtDGmI/SahTzdd31iI/AAAAAAAAEzc/rajEqOJWLF4/s400/heimlich.jpg
Example: Relief.

^Viola.

Jesda
10-05-10, 11:31 PM
Bubble tea has balls. You missed my cringingly (or delightfully depending on who you are) homoerotic innuendo in the caption.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-05-10, 11:38 PM
Bubble tea has balls. You missed my cringingly (or delightfully depending on who you are) homoerotic innuendo in the caption.

I laughed, but in a disgusting sort of way.

ted tcb
10-05-10, 11:49 PM
Congrats on the car, guys.

Like Ryan, I too had a silver STS, 2001 ... heck, I think I've owned just about every colour they come in:)

The blown centre speaker is weird ... I've never seen that in an STS ... someone must've loved bass I guess.

Every STS I've owned, post 1997, has had some type of hwy shimmy for me to sort out ... did you somehow miss
the dreaded shimmy? How's the steering ... any slight creaking related to the intermediate steering shaft?

Enjoy, and keep us updated on your progress.

They're great cars once you get them set up just right.

Jesda
10-05-10, 11:59 PM
No creaking, but the PS pump is due for replacement. Sometimes it feels "crunchy". No shimmy either, surprisingly, and half the tires on there are dry rotted Chinese stuff. I'm doing some tire shopping now.

It really is a pleasure to drive!

93DevilleUSMC
10-06-10, 12:13 AM
Balls?!?!? You should have imitated the Vietnamese and eaten a kitty.

ejguillot
10-06-10, 01:09 AM
Looks like Bluestar is only 02+
Not necessarily, look at this thread:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-audio-video-security-systems/143407-onstar-bluetooth-conversion-completed.html

It appears that there a few 2000-2001 Sevilles and Devilles that have a working BlueStar install. From the costartech website:

Notes:

The BLUESTAR 2010 is designed for GM class2 and GMLAN data vehicles only. It will not work in vehicles that do not utilize either of these communication busses to mute the radio. This includes early model GM vehicles (pre-2002) that utilized the Entertainment and Control Bus (E&C) to mute the radio. Contact us or refer to your service manual when in doubt.


You might want to call them, I'd say there a good chance that a 2001 STS (GM's tech flagship) used the GMLAN and Class 2 buses for the Onstar. I'll have to look through my 2000 service manual to see (and if 2000 does, 2001 definitely will).

Jesda
10-06-10, 01:12 AM
Thanks for the tip!

gdwriter
10-06-10, 02:14 AM
No creaking, but the PS pump is due for replacement. Sometimes it feels "crunchy". No shimmy either, surprisingly, and half the tires on there are dry rotted Chinese stuff. I'm doing some tire shopping now.Sabrina had a bit of a shimmy when I first got her, but I replaced the cheap-ass Toyos with a set of Yokohamas YK520s from Discount Tire, and it was gone. Good tires from a ride and handling perspective and reasonably quiet, but there's no way they're going to last as long as the mileage guarantee. I'll probably get ~40,000 miles out of them, which isn't bad.

When driving to Portland a couple of weeks ago, I detected a very slight shimmy at 68-70 MPH. I had the tires rotated and balanced a few weeks ago, but I think I may go back to Discount Tire and have them double check the balance.

gdwriter
10-06-10, 02:15 AM
It really is a pleasure to drive!:yup: :yup: :yup:

Night Wolf
10-06-10, 02:23 AM
Nice car! I'm still partial to the Seville STS. That one looks to be in great condition for a very good price.

77CDV
10-06-10, 03:13 AM
How cool is it that you went to Scranton! That's where my dad was from. LOL at Steamtown! I was there visiting in 2008. Weird to see pics taken by other people of places you've been. It's really beautiful country up there, even if it is polluted all to hell from all the coal mining.

Having been through Camden, NJ, I can vouch that it sucks. It makes South-Central LA look good, and that takes talent.

ryannel2003
10-06-10, 10:40 AM
I've personally never seen a car that is so sensitive when it comes to vibration. The slightest thing can cause the whole car to shake uncontrollably. Do yourself some good and don't go cheap on the tires like I did because you'll be dissatisfied with the ride and handling. The two tires i'm looking at hardest are Cooper CS4-V's and Michelin Primacy MXV4's. Both on the expensive side, but i've spent more money replacing cheap tires than I would have if I just bought the Michelin's to begin with.

Glad you're enjoying the car though. They are excellent cars for the money.

drewsdeville
10-06-10, 10:45 AM
I've personally never seen a car that is so sensitive when it comes to vibration. The slightest thing can cause the whole car to shake uncontrollably. Do yourself some good and don't go cheap on the tires like I did because you'll be dissatisfied with the ride and handling. The two tires i'm looking at hardest are Cooper CS4-V's and Michelin Primacy MXV4's. Both on the expensive side, but i've spent more money replacing cheap tires than I would have if I just bought the Michelin's to begin with.

Glad you're enjoying the car though. They are excellent cars for the money.

I'm generally a Michelin loyalist, but the CS4's are great performing tires.

orconn
10-06-10, 11:54 AM
My wife's 2002 Seville with 23,000 miles on it had a shimmy when we got it. I replace the OE tires with Michelin Aqua treads and the shimmy disappeared completely and is still non-existent at 48,000 miles. Good tires seem to be critical with these cars.

Jesda
10-06-10, 02:25 PM
I heard Michelin Symmetry was the tire of choice for K-bodies

Playdrv4me
10-06-10, 02:32 PM
I've personally never seen a car that is so sensitive when it comes to vibration. The slightest thing can cause the whole car to shake uncontrollably. Do yourself some good and don't go cheap on the tires like I did because you'll be dissatisfied with the ride and handling. The two tires i'm looking at hardest are Cooper CS4-V's and Michelin Primacy MXV4's. Both on the expensive side, but i've spent more money replacing cheap tires than I would have if I just bought the Michelin's to begin with.

Glad you're enjoying the car though. They are excellent cars for the money.

+1 on the Michelin Primacy MXV4... that is an incredible tire and it is THE recommended tire over on the LS430 forum. The car comes with decent Dunlops as it is, but everyone converts to MXV4s eventually.

hueterm
10-06-10, 02:33 PM
I have Symmetrys on my '95 Concours, and would put them on an SLS, but not an STS. I wouldn't think they were as high performance as you'd want for an STS...

ryannel2003
10-06-10, 03:21 PM
My car had the Symmetry's up there before and they were a good tire... but not really made for the STS. They wear out quicker than the Primacy's do as well and the price difference isn't that great either.

ted tcb
10-06-10, 03:27 PM
Ryan, I've had the Coopers on two cars ... a 2005 Civic and a 2003 STS.
It helped with my shimmy, but wasn't an instant fix.
I still had to try two different RFB's before I achieved reasonable results.
The CS4's were better than the Goodyear RSA's, but that's not saying much.

For a bit more money, I really wished I had given the Primacy's a go.
I put a set on my 2000 ES300, and the results in smoothness and quietness were instantaneous.

The reason I went for the Coopers were the added bite for snow and long lasting tread ... hindsight tells me the Michelin's
might've been the best choice for my shimmy issue.

drewsdeville
10-06-10, 03:37 PM
I put Symmetry's on on my '95 Deville a few years ago. Just last week I swapped them onto my '90 Eldo before I sell the '95 as they don't have many miles on them. They ride like glass on both cars. Much quieter than the CS4's but performance otherwise is about the same, from what I can tell. However, the Symmetry's were more expensive. The CS4's are a great value.

orconn
10-06-10, 04:59 PM
I have Symmetrys on my '95 Concours, and would put them on an SLS, but not an STS. I wouldn't think they were as high performance as you'd want for an STS...

I agree with Hueterm on this. I had the Michelin Symetrys on the Mercedes (came standard) and they were OK, but I put higher performance Michelins on the '93 STS and they were really superior, relally transformend the car!

ryannel2003
10-06-10, 05:06 PM
Ryan, I've had the Coopers on two cars ... a 2005 Civic and a 2003 STS.
It helped with my shimmy, but wasn't an instant fix.
I still had to try two different RFB's before I achieved reasonable results.
The CS4's were better than the Goodyear RSA's, but that's not saying much.

For a bit more money, I really wished I had given the Primacy's a go.
I put a set on my 2000 ES300, and the results in smoothness and quietness were instantaneous.

The reason I went for the Coopers were the added bite for snow and long lasting tread ... hindsight tells me the Michelin's
might've been the best choice for my shimmy issue.

My car has a terrible shimmy from about 66-75MPH at the moment and i'm sure it has something to do with my horrible tires. I'm tired of putting cheap tires on my car and only getting 20k out of them before they need replacing. So for christmas I told my parents I just wanted tires for my car. I'm also getting an 3rd LED because mine is starting to go out. Just replaced my right side taillight because the old one took on water.

So Ted, what was the final straw in getting rid of the STS? I'm shocked you did... I thought you would keep it for awhile.

hueterm
10-06-10, 05:09 PM
I have Goodyear Responsedges on the ETC and love them. Of course, I don't think the ETC has the shimmy issues of the 98+ SLS/STS...

ben.gators
10-06-10, 05:18 PM
The factory tires on Sevilles, Goodyear Eagles, are crap. When I purchased my Cadi, Goodyear Eagle tires were pretty new. But they were out of round shape and it was almost impossible to balance them. I replaced them with kumho solus and I am happy with these new tires.

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 05:23 PM
I heard Michelin Symmetry was the tire of choice for K-bodies

K-Bodies ? never heard of that before


I use those the one of few tires that i trust
i also like the Hydro Headge

ga_etc
10-06-10, 05:25 PM
My ETC had a nearly new set of Hankook Mileage Plus IIs on it when I bought it. Unfortunately they are still there, though getting due to be replaced. I have HATED these tires since I bought the car. Completely the wrong tire for the car, I feel. They shouldn't loose traction at a 50mph downshift in the rain. They also have a vibration to them and have from day 1. Hopefully they will be replaced with either the MXV4s or the Coopers.

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 05:26 PM
My wife's 2002 Seville with 23,000 miles on it had a shimmy when we got it. I replace the OE tires with Michelin Aqua treads and the shimmy disappeared completely and is still non-existent at 48,000 miles. Good tires seem to be critical with these cars.

I never heard of that tire do they even still make it ? i was looking on there website and see nothing in ref to it

hueterm
10-06-10, 05:31 PM
I have those Hankooks on one of my wagons...yes, you need to get rid of them off of an ETC as soon as possible...

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 05:32 PM
not sure if anyone has tried to do this to stop the shimmy or if they did it for other reasons
but what do you guys think about Strut Tower Bars or Strut Brace bars
you know i know GM stopped making them for our cars so you cant get them unless you find it on ebay
or have it custome made for yours or search the junk yards and look under the hood of each seville they might have
but has anyone had luck with stoping vibrations with the Strut Brace ?

also someone told me ones they switched to the 17in STS wheels on the 02 plus i think or was it 03 plus when they whent up 1 size and they said the ride was much better then the 16s

RippyPartsDept
10-06-10, 05:44 PM
are you talking about this brace Pup?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/30/strutbrace.jpg

if so the part number is #25653157
it has been discontinued by GM
but Vintage Parts has the surplus stock contract for GM
and apparently there was stock in the warehouses when GM discontinued it
so Vintage Parts still has them available (about 75 or so pieces still)
they cost about $50 plus some shipping (i might be able to discount a bit more)

Vintage Parts has a no-return policy and a lot of dealers won't deal with them, but we use them whenever we have to

but maybe you were talking about something else

Playdrv4me
10-06-10, 06:01 PM
are you talking about this brace Pup?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/30/strutbrace.jpg

if so the part number is #25653157
it has been discontinued by GM
but Vintage Parts has the surplus stock contract for GM
and apparently there was stock in the warehouses when GM discontinued it
so Vintage Parts still has them available (about 75 or so pieces still)
they cost about $50 plus some shipping (i might be able to discount a bit more)

Vintage Parts has a no-return policy and a lot of dealers won't deal with them, but we use them whenever we have to

but maybe you were talking about something else

Well that's pretty damn cool for 50 bucks, I never knew such a thing even existed!

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 06:03 PM
yup thats the one

nope thats it its the bar that goes acorss from one stut tower to the other bolts on to one of the strut bolts on each tower

cool cool

ones i get the caddy all taken care of then ill take the 50 plus shipping and contact you if you can get a bit of a discount on it

but right now my main priority is the Engine work
wish will be started the begining of next month ones i get another lump of cash ready

RippyPartsDept
10-06-10, 06:09 PM
What's got me confused is: why your cars don't have this part on them already?

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 06:16 PM
i read somewhere and also heard 2 difrant storys i heard that they put them on a select few STS models only in 98-04 and they didnt put them on any sls
they used them on all seville from 93-97 eldorado untill the day they stoped building i think
and the deville from 93-99

but then someone ones told me that they didnt do that with the sevilles so that confuses the heck out of me

if going to check a junk yard or 2 tomorros and just look around see if i find any sts's 98 up and see if they have them
might just find luck somewhere

orconn
10-06-10, 07:39 PM
I never heard of that tire do they even still make it ? i was looking on there website and see nothing in ref to it

You used the correct name, Pup, they are Michelin Hydro Edge. Great in the dry exceptional in the wet ... but not cheap!

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 08:17 PM
You used the correct name, Pup, they are Michelin Hydro Edge. Great in the dry exceptional in the wet ... but not cheap!

ah ok i thout they where a diff tire all togethere got it now
last time i used tose where about 3 years ago not on the caddy it was on one of the lincolns

i remember when i got the symmetry this last time only did that because they where 125 cheaper then the hydro edge would have been

and before all this happend with the car i was getting ready to get a new set of tires for winter time found 4 hyrdro edge on ebay for 450 plus shipping woudl come to 520 and i got a place near me that does the RFB and they would charge me 15 dollars per tire to mount and balance them

the other palces to get tires near me wanted like 190 a peace after mount and balance wicked high

ted tcb
10-06-10, 08:25 PM
So Ted, what was the final straw in getting rid of the STS? I'm shocked you did... I thought you would keep it for awhile.

Well, I loved the car and hated it at the same time.
The interior that I loved on my 1999 just looked dated and cheaply built by the time I lived with it on this version.
I wanted the in dash factory Nav, but found my Garmin was far more intuitive.
I knew the Magnaride sensors had been disabled, and kind of liked the supple ride at first.
After about 6 months, I was tired of the bottoming out when I drove hard on secondary roads.
The Magnaride default is the softest setting.
The dealer quoted me the standard $4k for shocks, and I won't put Arnott's on this platform.

I spent a lot of time eliminating the shimmy ... I know you're going through the same thing.
I changed lug nuts, cleaned up the hubs, bought Cooper CS4's, and endured two RFB's at different dealers.
I still wasn't totally in love with the hwy ride ... the shimmy was 90% gone.
Best way to describe it was a muted feel .... the steering wheel and seats didn't vibrate, but it there was a
muted, buried shimmy somewhere.

The fwd STS is still my favourite styled sedan, but I simply ran out of patience and got a great offer to sell it.

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I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-06-10, 08:32 PM
Every time I see one of those STS's, especially in the white diamond or crimson red, I fall in love, but I remember how much of a headache they are for almost everyone who owns one, and then get turned off again.

77CDV
10-06-10, 08:47 PM
Maybe they really are the American Jaguar. :D

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 08:49 PM
its a shame how one of the most beutifull and amazing caddy body styles came to an end
the service tech at the dealership said he was sad to see them go and not be around as much

ones i get this caddy back running great no leaks and anyting then i am going to start to invest what ever i have to to get ride of that damm shimmy LOL

im just scared to go to some shop and have them trie the updated tie rod ends they will most likly say yes they are the OEM but probalby go to Auto zoen to pick them up because thats what places around her do to scam you lol

but i just dont get it there is absolutly nothing wrong with the front end i have had 2 shops in the last 4 months say not one darn things and they dont get it iethere why the shimmy is still there
the only thing i could think of is maybe one of the rims are bad
but that cant be the reason because that would mean over all of us would have bad rims LOL

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 08:53 PM
Maybe they really are the American Jaguar. :D

hey suprisingly my Jag was one of the cars that never cuased me any trouble
i rember i got it from my drandpas estate when he passed it had 19k on it and drove it 3 years over 90k and only had to replace the breaks and regulare maintnance how ever when i wanted to get the tranny surviced and they told me the jaquare tranny fluid would cost me a few a mear furtune i said screw it LOL but all and all i think i spend maybe 400 dollars on maintnace other then oil changes in 3 years
i loved that car but when someone loved it more and came to me with a offer of 10k for a car with 109k on it that was older then his son i said what the hell aprently i saw it a year latter sitting in his driveway bad tranny and bad engine what the hell he did to that id ont know

77CDV
10-06-10, 08:54 PM
Pup, you are one lucky stiff!

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 09:00 PM
Pup, you are one lucky stiff!

wana bet ? its all comming back to bite me in the f--ck-- ass with this caddy LOL

ok i think i have finaly got eveyrign in order over the past 2 years between price of car 14 percent intrest i paid for it
every single thing i have spent on the car not including gas but any service at all oil changes filters because i buy them sepratly and find someone on CL to do it
wheel bearings breaks evyering over the past 73k in the last 1 year 7 months
iv spent a total of

19,700 dollars that is with including the money for the engine overhual and new block

that also includes the price of what i paid for the car and all also

so tell me im lucky now LMAO

but you know im fixing this and if the car ever gets wrecked atleast i know ill have a good engine and transmision with stud kits heads doen and new block that will go in any 2000-2002 Deville or DHS and 2000-2002 SLS so i have no problem and not worries about ever having to pay for a engine repair again LOL

77CDV
10-06-10, 09:06 PM
They do say payback is a bitch! :lol:

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 09:30 PM
Yes they F-Ck--- do

i should have got the 2000 BMW 740IL they where asking 9k for with 100k on it but oh no i had to be a true american at the time because i lived in Detroit LOL

ted tcb
10-06-10, 09:52 PM
Yikes, Pup ... you have $20k in a 10yr old SLS?

Nice to see you've kept your sense of humour through it all!

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 10:06 PM
Yikes, Pup ... you have $20k in a 10yr old SLS?

Nice to see you've kept your sense of humour through it all!

im about ready to loose my mind though lol
i try to keep humor in eveyrign life is to short
im 30 and when i was 8 was the first time i was diagnosed with full colon cancer it came back when i was 11 and 25 im a 3 time survivor
so i have humor lol

ted tcb
10-06-10, 10:14 PM
Amazing story ... good for you!!

Kind of puts everything into perspective ... a car is just a car when all is said and done.
Your health, on the other hand, is everything.

ThumperPup
10-06-10, 10:46 PM
Amazing story ... good for you!!

Kind of puts everything into perspective ... a car is just a car when all is said and done.
Your health, on the other hand, is everything.

yeah so true

The-Dullahan
10-07-10, 01:31 AM
That's not any trainyard, it's one of MY trainyards. What are you doing snooping around my hometown without asking me to tag along. I'd have shown you all the cool stuff, like the greatest hill on earth, leading into Scranton and the coal mine there that has been burning for the last fifty years. Damn it. Now I'm all homesick. You could have stopped by and visited my Mum and seen all her pretty cars.
Damn it, Damn it, Damn it. You missed all the great cemeteries too. Where are my photos? My brothers and sisters.

Oh well, at least you got to get some photos of the trains, which is what eventually evolved into my odd adoration of steam-power. By the way, the "turbine" is for clearing snow off of the train tracks. Though it is probably better you don't ask how I learned this, they can equally well rip any organic matter into chunks of "debris" and paint red to a nice patch of fresh snow, all along the right side of the train.

77CDV
10-07-10, 02:50 AM
I was wondering when Rob would chime in. Oddly, the pics make me homesick, too, even though I've only ever visited the Lackawanna Valley a handful of times.

hueterm
10-07-10, 06:10 PM
I have $20K in my ETC...bought it for $12K 2 1/2 years ago w/40000 miles on it and have put $8K into it...

Fun Fun...

As such, I'll probably never get rid of it............................

ga_etc
10-07-10, 07:23 PM
I have $20K in my ETC...bought it for $12K 2 1/2 years ago w/40000 miles on it and have put $8K into it...

Fun Fun...

As such, I'll probably never get rid of it............................

I would think not. I would love to keep mine til the wheels fall off. If it's worth it.

ThumperPup
10-07-10, 07:51 PM
well i know im dedicated and i am going to keep this till the wheels fall of completly
today i was out searching the junk yards see if i could find a seville with a strut brace no luck 6 yards and 18 sevilles mostly sts but some sls 98-04 and not ones had a strut brace im like what the heck

i was about to leave for home from the last yard and drove by a restoration shop decided what the hell ill just pop in and see what they will charge for a color change shops said if i wanted evyering doen perfectly the right way the color i want would be about 7,000 dollars i was like OMFG
then i whent by another place ok know i know what your all going to say earl shibe never go there i only stopped in because i new this place from when i was like 15 years old and it had a sighn saying privatly owned not in business with earl shibe LLC privatly owned
so i whent in i go to talking with the guy
asked him how he would do it all
he said no taping up unless thats the only way to do it but to take moldings on lamps out windows out and off of the car door panels off under side of hood and inside of trunk all the jams evyering thing he cane posibly get to without taking the engine out so cant do the inside of the engine compatment unless i came up with the money to do it when the drive train was already dropped then he could do that
but he first said you relize the cost of supplies paind alone for like 1.5 gallons of sprayable from the dealership i said yeah i have an idea crimson pearl red
he said what price rang was i looking for i said around 3000 he said if he does the work himself and doesnt have his guys that he has to pay do do it and had the car for 3 weeks he would do it for me for 3000 out the door the proper way
he said he could do it for 3500 in 1 to 2 weeks if he had his workers do it and used a sherwin wiliams brand paint

so i told him this would probsalby be in the spring when i get the money he said if hes still open and aslong as the price of paint and supplies dont go up and aslong has hes able to do it he will give me that 3000 out the door price after taxes and all

The-Dullahan
10-08-10, 12:30 AM
I was wondering when Rob would chime in. Oddly, the pics make me homesick, too, even though I've only ever visited the Lackawanna Valley a handful of times.

I heard something about Turbines in Scranton and realized that Sister Jillian may have begun taking over the world.

ben.gators
10-15-10, 04:27 PM
Any update about your STS, Jesda?

Jesda
10-15-10, 10:32 PM
Got new tie rods, flushed the steering fluid, replaced the resonator with a straight pipe, and today it was dropped off with my paint guy to have the blemish on the bumper and the rust spots on the bottom rear door edges cleaned up. Also ordered a couple tires last night.

I bought a center speaker to replace the blown one but haven't gotten around to installing it. When I do that, I'll need to reglue the dashboard as well since its bulging in one spot.

Otherwise, pretty good so far! It just hit 114k yesterday. I do miss the seats that were in the '92. They had bigger side bolsters and more thigh support. When cornering I sometimes feel like I'm hanging on to the steering wheel while the rest of me slides around. The '92 STS, even though it was a longer car, felt sportier and sharper, but was nowhere close when it came to refinement and ride quality. I'll have to make a video at some point and talk about them.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-15-10, 11:10 PM
I agree with you on the assessment of the '92 STS v. your '01. Those 1992-95 STS's were really something else! They really felt extremely sharp, sporty and with the Northstar they were downright quick! I drove a white/tan '94 STS a few years back and never had more "fun" behind the wheel of a Cadillac! The 1998-03's are much more refined, much quieter and much smoother, but they're just not as fast or as aggressive as the 1992-95's. I always thought of the 1993-95 STS as being a lot like an American Quattroporte, and the 98-03's are a lot more comparable to a GS400.

orconn
10-15-10, 11:55 PM
My wife's 1993 Seville STS was one hotrod Cadillac! My 1995 STS performs as well but is much more refined than the '93 was. They sounded totally different, they definitely had different steering feel (the '93 was more direct, but for me not as pleasant), the rear suspension was different on the '95 which in my opinion much improved the car, but again took away from the "sporting" feel that the '93 had. My wife loved her 1993 STS and says she much preferred it to the her present 2002 SLS. Jesda is right about the 4th generation having better seats, with much better thy support and more comfortable side bolsters, The seats in the '95 fit me perfectly which is one of the reasons I continue to keep the car, that and the nice blend of decent handling, ride and an American feel that the newer car gave up for its' more European but, somehow, less sporty feel. I have also driven a '92 Sevlle STS on occasion and would not give up the N* engine which really made the later 4th seruies cars standout. As the 4th series Seville STS's seem to get softer and dynamically "sporty" as the model years progressed after 1993, for my money the 1995 hit the best balance betwen "sport" and "luxury."

Jesda
10-16-10, 12:35 AM
What year did the Z-rated tires show up? 94? 95?

ben.gators
10-16-10, 03:35 AM
Got new tie rods, flushed the steering fluid, replaced the resonator with a straight pipe, and today it was dropped off with my paint guy to have the blemish on the bumper and the rust spots on the bottom rear door edges cleaned up. Also ordered a couple tires last night.

I bought a center speaker to replace the blown one but haven't gotten around to installing it. When I do that, I'll need to reglue the dashboard as well since its bulging in one spot.

Otherwise, pretty good so far! It just hit 114k yesterday. I do miss the seats that were in the '92. They had bigger side bolsters and more thigh support. When cornering I sometimes feel like I'm hanging on to the steering wheel while the rest of me slides around. The '92 STS, even though it was a longer car, felt sportier and sharper, but was nowhere close when it came to refinement and ride quality. I'll have to make a video at some point and talk about them.

Why you are replacing resonator with an straight pipe? for extra horse power or maybe for some extra sound during WOT? And dashboard, yes, mine has deformed from the edges too, Arizona heat! it is really hard to regulate the dashboard, it may deform back again..... I really hope I had a good paint guy like you have! There is an small blemish on my driver fender! It needs body work and paint job. Good shops that guarantee color match are asking 1200-1500$. Small body shops are asking about 150-200$, but I am not sure they are able to match up the color! So I am still living with that fender.. but it really pisses me off whenever I see it!

Jesda
10-16-10, 04:30 AM
The resonator was rusted, unfortunately.

drewsdeville
10-16-10, 05:16 AM
Wait, this car was purchased with rust? That car rusted through some of the original stainless exhaust already? Usually it takes quite a bit longer than that...

I lowered the price on my '95 because the bottom seams on the doors are starting to bubble, though the rest of the paint is great. Now I'm starting to wonder if that was a bad idea...

Jesda
10-16-10, 05:53 AM
Shockingly, after seeing the car up on a lift, the underbody is very clean. It's as if rust chose very specific areas to attack. I would have expected the wheel arches to go first, which was the case on my '98. The 92, despite having been abused and accumulating about 200,000 miles, was free of major corrosion.

Playdrv4me
10-16-10, 07:00 AM
There's no rust anywhere on the 2001 that actually "matters", if that makes any sense. Had that been the case and knowing what I do about the evil ways of the rust monster, I would have advised Jesda to pass on it. Like he said, it attacked some specific points on the car and the very bottom edges of a couple of doors. I can say with confidence that the unibody itself, is virtually if not absolutely free of any rust (and you can instantly tell on these Sevilles because they get tiny rust bubbles at the back of the rear wheel arches). For the price it was an entirely acceptable and entirely correctable amount.

ThumperPup
10-16-10, 09:54 AM
I have 2 rust spots on this car one is int he comon area where the grill screws into the hood someone said its becasue they didnt seal it right or do somethign right

and then 1 small rust spot under the passenger front door at the bottom

so on my 2000 only 2 little rust spots so im preaty happy about that

hamblen
02-15-11, 03:14 PM
Thanks for making my day! What a great post!

ThumperPup
02-15-11, 03:49 PM
you Jesda was it worth it ?
i mean with the caddy in the shop now with the issues it has or not in the shop but needs to be fixed
was it worth it to do all that for it ?

if you had it to do over again would you ?

STSS
02-15-11, 04:54 PM
I would have saved you the trip to Elyria if I knew you were looking at that car. I work like 1/4 mile from there.... I almost pulled a hammy trying to run away from that Seville.

FYI, if you think Seville road was cool, you were only about 10 miles from Seville Ohio (it's not really anything to see, but the name is Seville).

I grew up about 5 miles from that outlet mall (where the dealership now sits empty) and had a friend who lived back by the gravel pits on Seville Rd.... lots of good dirtbike trails and fishin' holes out there, but not much else.

Jesda
02-15-11, 05:55 PM
Elyria seemed like a really nice little town. Reminded me of where I grew up.

It now has 122k. I did tie rods, rear tires, and some cleanup of the body and paint. It urgently needs wheel bearings, a pair of front tires, and a power steering pump. The shop I was going to take it to went out of business a week ago. :/

ben.gators
02-15-11, 06:20 PM
^
Went out of business?! We have heard a lot about dealerships going out of business, but small mechanic shops used to have a better condition, since people could not afford to buy brand new cars and have been trying to keep their old cars alive.

Jesda
02-15-11, 06:37 PM
I thought the same. I called last week to schedule a dropoff (I called the week earlier for an estimate) and he said "Uhh, we're out of business until we find a new location. Sorry."

I guess they were charging too little to cover costs.

drewsdeville
02-15-11, 08:08 PM
Maybe there aren't enough N* powered Cadillacs on the road down there. I mean, all the shop would need is a few regulars with cars like Jesda's Seville and they'd be thriving. :P

ThumperPup
02-15-11, 08:19 PM
u know if i where to ever back someone finacialy to open up there own shop i would insist on it being in a area where Cadillac N's Sevilles devilles and Edlorados are comonly scene and owned lol

Jesda
02-15-11, 08:20 PM
Maybe there aren't enough N* powered Cadillacs on the road down there. I mean, all the shop would need is a few regulars with cars like Jesda's Seville and they'd be thriving. :P

Indeed!

There seems to be a whole crop of Northstar shops in Detroit, not surprisingly. That engine has created an entire industry.

ThumperPup
02-15-11, 08:31 PM
Indeed!

There seems to be a whole crop of Northstar shops in Detroit, not surprisingly. That engine has created an entire industry.

i dont know about that ill take your word for it
when i was living in detroit and needed the HG's doen no one wanted to touch it i caled evyerone they all said just go used we can get you a good price
lol

but the ones who would do it didnt even want to warranty it so not so sure thats true

hueterm
02-15-11, 08:34 PM
Just use Ian's Escalade or Expedition to tow it up to Jake. It's not that much further than Detroit...if at all...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
02-15-11, 08:39 PM
In Rochester MN, one of the auto repair shops that I call on is ran by an ex-Cadillac specialist that left the local Cadillac/Chevrolet/Subaru store. He doesn't "specialize" in Cadillac repair, but I told him today he should, as that's a niche market that's left untouched by the Rochester area, and I know a lot of the independent techs don't like to do a lot of heavy work on Cadillacs, and I'm sure a lot of the Cadillac owners would like to go to someone who knows Cadillacs well without going to the dealer. There are a few people who specialize in diesels in the area, and a few who specialize in the European imports. I think a Cadillac specialist would be good too.

gdwriter
02-16-11, 02:45 AM
My mechanic either owned or still owns a 90s DeVille Concours, so it's nice having somebody work on your car who really knows them.

ThumperPup
02-16-11, 09:02 AM
The Mechanic who Rebuilt my Engine in Cleveland Area Lake Country

PowerTrain Automitice
ok just had to put a plug in there for him
he works on Northstars and right now he had to lay of his sister thats how bad business is here so the locale stand by own shop mechanics arent doing so great

but he has a 98 Concours Deville On the Side of his building Someone brought to him for a HG problem over a year ago
and never came Back for it this is when he stoped not asking for deposits on cars
its all great runs perfect he turn it on drives it around his block ones a week just to make sure its all good he says but cant get ahold of the guy
he owes him 1900 for the head gasket repair
and he figures for the sotrage 8 dollars per day for over a year hes waiting on a abandoned car title or soemthing from the state he has requested ownership of the vehicle to be his

Playdrv4me
02-17-11, 09:53 PM
There's a shop in Detroit that's been specializing in Northstars for years. He's got his system so efficient he can do multiple motors per week, has a warehouse full of old Northstars, and does base HG repair (with the factory timesert kit) for $1300.00. Add 500 to that for case half reseal and any other incidentals. It's quite a bargain if you can get the car up there.

ThumperPup
02-17-11, 11:01 PM
There's a shop in Detroit that's been specializing in Northstars for years. He's got his system so efficient he can do multiple motors per week, has a warehouse full of old Northstars, and does base HG repair (with the factory timesert kit) for $1300.00. Add 500 to that for case half reseal and any other incidentals. It's quite a bargain if you can get the car up there.

wow and when i needed this where the heck was this info lol
i drove all the way to chicago to have mine doen when i could have
had it doen when i was in detroit in April omg
why didnt you tell me this back then growling showing teeth

just out of curiosity what is the name of the shop ?
im heading to detroit for a party saturday and thinking might want to call ahead stop and and see how hes got his stuff set up and all

Playdrv4me
02-18-11, 04:04 AM
wow and when i needed this where the heck was this info lol
i drove all the way to chicago to have mine doen when i could have
had it doen when i was in detroit in April omg
why didnt you tell me this back then growling showing teeth

just out of curiosity what is the name of the shop ?
im heading to detroit for a party saturday and thinking might want to call ahead stop and and see how hes got his stuff set up and all

I don't remember the guy's name, I found his ad on Detroit craigslist and spent about 30 minutes talking to him on the phone. I'm sure if you dig through the Detroit cl ads for car repair you will come across his ad eventually.

ben.gators
02-18-11, 04:08 AM
^
Is this him?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/aos/2191800989.html
oh, and what happened to your STS? You have removed it from your car list...

Playdrv4me
02-18-11, 04:23 AM
^
Is this him?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/aos/2191800989.html
oh, and what happened to your STS? You have removed it from your car list...

Nope, the english was a little more broken on the other guy's ad and he clearly had his price posted at $1300.00 or a fully rebuilt swap-in motor for $3000. When we spoke he told me that he actually has a large warehouse of N* motors and parts so that he can tackle nearly ANY broken part in a N* motor once it is torn down.

Jesda took the STS back over, it's a long story.

ben.gators
02-18-11, 04:29 AM
what about this? http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/aos/2169024602.html

Playdrv4me
02-18-11, 05:34 AM
Don't you live in AZ? LOL.

Don't think that's it either. But as you can see, there is no shortage of them in D-town!

ben.gators
02-18-11, 06:01 AM
Yes, but I will leave AZ in about six months, the next destination is somewhere in midwest.... Probably Indiana! From now I have started to do research about my next home... :D

Stingroo
02-18-11, 08:11 AM
Ben come to Florida! :)

ThumperPup
02-18-11, 09:15 AM
Don't you live in AZ? LOL.

Don't think that's it either. But as you can see, there is no shortage of them in D-town!


yeah there is no shortage of the ones who say theyh specialize in it and will do it
but when i spoke with them it seemed they didnt know alot of about them they just wanted to get the atention of those of us who own them hoping for business

i think if you specilize in a norhtStar engine the 2 things you should know most about is Time Sirts and Big Sirts second you shoudl know about norm Sirts and 3rd if you get deep into finding info searching the web and asking those of us who know then you should know about Jakes Studs

but when i call a shop and ask what they do
and they say the only way to fix it is the Time Sirts and if its already been doen then there isnt mouch we can do the second time around

or if they say we can do it we have had some sucess how ever we cant gurantee that the block wont strip and thread out when putting them back in

that is suspect and i wont let them look at my car driving down the road let alone think about touching it

when i lived in the D i called eveyrone that had a CL add at the time up and running saying they specilized in Northstars and it was always those answers

trickedcadillac91
02-18-11, 09:26 AM
Though I am new to the forum here this looked like an amazingly good time! It makes me feel better knowing what a great group of people are here on this site. I hope that I might have similar good experiences over time.

Stingroo
02-18-11, 09:49 AM
You will. I don't even OWN a Cadillac and look at my stats. :lol: There are good people here.

ted tcb
02-18-11, 10:06 AM
Jesda took the STS back over, it's a long story.

Any updates on the starring vehicle in this thread, Jesda's STS?

Playdrv4me
02-18-11, 05:07 PM
yeah there is no shortage of the ones who say theyh specialize in it and will do it
but when i spoke with them it seemed they didnt know alot of about them they just wanted to get the atention of those of us who own them hoping for business

i think if you specilize in a norhtStar engine the 2 things you should know most about is Time Sirts and Big Sirts second you shoudl know about norm Sirts and 3rd if you get deep into finding info searching the web and asking those of us who know then you should know about Jakes Studs

but when i call a shop and ask what they do
and they say the only way to fix it is the Time Sirts and if its already been doen then there isnt mouch we can do the second time around

or if they say we can do it we have had some sucess how ever we cant gurantee that the block wont strip and thread out when putting them back in

that is suspect and i wont let them look at my car driving down the road let alone think about touching it

when i lived in the D i called eveyrone that had a CL add at the time up and running saying they specilized in Northstars and it was always those answers

For 1300 bucks I'll take my chances with the TimeSerts. The best price quote I got with Jake's studs (the ONLY thing I would use otherwise, PERIOD) was twice that, so even if the car only lasted 30 or 40k on the TimeSerts, it would be worth it even if I had to do it again. We have plenty of members running on timeserts that are doing just fine. The only UNacceptable method is helicoils.

ThumperPup
02-18-11, 06:45 PM
i had normsirts doen in April put about 18 k on it before the leak in the engine block was found drove another 5k with the bad engine block just adding stop leak and coolant when needed
had engine rebuilt with new block mechanic said the HG's where great not leaking or anyting normsirts held good for me for 23k
if i had it to do again and could od it for 1300 i wouldnt midn that price but the thing is i never found anyone to do it that price when i lived in detroit
evyeone that wanted to do it was saying yeah shure we can do it but we dont warranty it because they fail to often or didnt know what the heck they where doing

so now i got jakes studs and im happy got 6k on here since engine rebuild and looking forward to another 300k over the next 7 years if possible

ThumperPup
02-18-11, 10:35 PM
I think i found that shop in the D that charges 1300 but now there price is 1350
they also advertise 3000 for rebuilt engines

the only thing that i would find suspect about this is they only offer a 6 month warranty
im not sure but it sounds more like a place for dealers or someone who just wants the cheaper fix
to be able to have it repaired before selling it

but this is just my feeling on it
yes we get what we pay for
but there are those times where you get alot more for what you pay because some ppl are just good and honest
but hard to tell

got me hung up on the 6 month warranty if someone is going to do the work i think they should be open to standing behind it a bit longer than 6 months

the Mechanic who rebuilt my Engine gave me a 2 year warranty on it
his sister who is his book keeper said that she never saw him offer antying more then 12 months but he offered me the 2 year warranty because of what i spend and he stands behind his work

he knows that i could have chosen to go with a jasper engine for a thousnd more with a 100k warranty or goen with one of jakes rebuilt engines
with a better warranty and just paid him to do the R&R

but he even told me that if the 2 year warranty came up and say 3 years down the road something that he replaced whent bad aslong as i take it to hime for the routine maintnace he will stand behind his work
and i trust him for that

ThumperPup
02-18-11, 10:36 PM
oh almost forgot here is the link to the shop in the D i think from CL

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/ctd/2213343235.html

ben.gators
02-18-11, 11:20 PM
^
Thanks Pup