Ok, so we have all seen the escalade vs. lincoln, escalade vs. 300, blah blah blah.... So I thought that I would add to the vs. threads, and now there is Hummer vs. escalade!!!! I think that this is a good match, why do you like one or the other ect?? What do you think of the HUT Hummer?

Simply stated, for that kind of money Id rather drive a escalade than a hummer.. If I was going to go offroading, I would buy a tahoe or suburban with the Z71... IF I had an escaalde I wouldnt go offroad... The hummer is just more expensive IMHO.....

Actually, isnt the hummer less expensive then a new escalade??? Maybe your talking about cost to run/yearly expenses? The hummer is wider then an excursion, but way shorter so i dont know. Both are at the top of there class (Hummer and escalade)

Yes, the fully loaded Escalade is more money than the loaded stock Hummer. My dealer, after a change of owners, now offers the Hummer lineup also, so I've had the chance to really check them out. Two of my friends also own Hummers(a H1 and a H2). The Hummer H2 is fun to drive in a lifted truck on 35inch tires kinda way, but is not as comfortable and luxurious as the Caddy, which shares the same differently geared 6.0. Due to the fact that the Escalade is lighter, it is way faster. Actually it seems to me that the H2 is just plain slow.

The new upcoming H3 (based on the ChevyColorado/S10) is IMO making the brand more versatile, yet more generic than ever before. It is also a poor attempt to raise terrible H2 sales over the last year. My dealer says the H2's sit on the lot at least twice as long as the Escalades. This was not the case when the H2 first came out.

People either love the H2 or really hate it, saying its just plain ugly. At a comedy show last week, featuring Jay Leno, the opening act(I forget his name) spoke all about how H2 drivers are trying to compensate for various reasons. I was just glad the guy didn't talk about the Escalade, since it was like a 5 minute bit.

To me the H1 is the only true Hummer. Although the H2 is a damn nice truck, I'm sticking with Caddy all the way on this one.

Yea, when i looked at the horses for the escalade and h2 they were close, but it seems that the hummer should have alot more horses ect, because it is bigger... Ive seen the new truck there coming out with, its made with Nike interior and red lined tires, I dont like it at all. I think its a mistake. If the truck was as big as a ford f 350 or something it might be better...

I was going to by an H2 but after driving it and the Escalade I thought the Escalade rode better, and was much easier to see out of (less blind spots) so I purchased the Escalade.

i had considered an h2 also, but i thought i got a much better truck with my ext. it's more powerful, more roomy, and imo, better looking. i liked the h2s when they came out, but they're so unusual, you're paying to look different. well, it's hard to look different when there's a handful of them around your small town.

There will be no 05 Hummer H1 but an 06 will be coming out with a Duramax engine along with the Allison transmission. The one dealership, Lynch Hummer, already did a conversion and is running 550 hp out of a Duramax Hummer H1, and can do a 4 wheel burn out with the truck...talk about having a sports car and truck at the same time.

Every H2 owner I know regrets purchasing it. The resale is tanking and the quality seems poor. The two that I have rode in offered lackluster performance and marginal build quality. They looked awesome when they first came out, but now they're a dime a dozen around here.

Ever see that video of a stock Jeep Wrangler and a H2 go up a class 2 trail? The Jeep ran up the trial while the H2 broke a tie-rod. Class 2 trails are easy. The H2 only looks tough. I'd take a Z71 Tahoe or Suburban before a H2

I've heard that the quality of parts especially interior parts is inferior to the escalade.

Every H2 owner I know regrets purchasing it. The resale is tanking and the quality seems poor. The two that I have rode in offered lackluster performance and marginal build quality. They looked awesome when they first came out, but now they're a dime a dozen around here.

Ever see that video of a stock Jeep Wrangler and a H2 go up a class 2 trail? The Jeep ran up the trial while the H2 broke a tie-rod. Class 2 trails are easy. The H2 only looks tough. I'd take a Z71 Tahoe or Suburban before a H2


Hey Machine, Do you have the link of the video your talking about?

Escalade all the way !!

I always keep a beater or 1,000 $ truck sitting around to offroad with, thats why I still have my old chevy blazer, and I would never think of offroading in a escalade or hummer. I think its crazy to see these escalades lifted and hummers going offroading, why not just get a tahoe or a cheaper truck?? I do like the hummer, but I like the escalade. Where i live, there isnt many luxury cars or trucks around, so when you see a hummer or escalade around it catches everyone by surprise.... Just the other day 2 escalades were driving and tons of people were calling into the radio station asking who it was. I dont live in the ghetto, but in the mountains secluted kinda like a cheap vail colorado, so if youve got an escalade or hummer with rims, your gonna get everyone looking!

Hummers (the H2 specifically) are (A) ugly, (B) gas guzzlers (9 MPG!!!), (C) it must be a bitch to park it.

I'd much rather prefer the Escalade EXT to the Hummer. Even though the Hummer has a cool 'macho' image, the EXT just looked so damn cool in the Matrix: Reloaded :p

If you think about its 10-14? usual miles its not that different then the escalade, and its smaller then the Excursion, so it would be more easy to park. i have nothing against the cadillac, and will always like the cadillac, but I also like the Hummer too.

i like the hummer, but would rather have one from before when gm bought it. i heard they're tough to park because they have big blind spots. it'd be nice to have one, but i'm glad i chose my EXT.

I love the look of the H2. I have never driven one but I think they look really cool and unique compared to the escalade. I didn't consider buying one because of the terrible mileage, the fact that they are wide and would be hard to get around in traffic, parking, etc.... and also they are much taller than the escalade and wouldn't fit in many undergrounds or in my garage.

If I had a ton of money I would buy an H2 just because it would be a cool toy.. but for practicality the escalade is the way to go. And the escalade is way faster!!

I like them both the same even though the hummer looks like a washing machine on wheels though.

Hey Machine, Do you have the link of the video your talking about?

Escalade all the way !!


http://www.4x4movies.com/download/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=74

I found the last part of the video that does not show the Jeep make the run. OK, so maybe it's a little more severe than a class 2 trail :suspense: , but still, the H2 owner does at least 2 things wrong:
1) Neglects to deflate his tire pressure to gain better traction
2) Instead of backing up and repositioning his beast, the H2 driver gives it the gas and stresses the components. :bonkers:

This video was shot in Moab and the trail was designed for 4WD vehicles with modifications that surpass stock specs - it ironically proves that because the vehicle has the Hummer name, owners really think it’s a Hummer. In all reality, it's a Tahoe. Do a Google for "H2 tie-rod video" - the results push several videos and pictures of H2's getting stuck, broken and rescued.

http://www.4x4movies.com/download/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=74

I found the last part of the video that does not show the Jeep make the run. OK, so maybe it's a little more severe than a class 2 trail :suspense: , but still, the H2 owner does at least 2 things wrong:
1) Neglects to deflate his tire pressure to gain better traction
2) Instead of backing up and repositioning his beast, the H2 driver gives it the gas and stresses the components. :bonkers:

This video was shot in Moab and the trail was designed for 4WD vehicles with modifications that surpass stock specs - it ironically proves that because the vehicle has the Hummer name, owners really think it’s a Hummer. In all reality, it's a Tahoe. Do a Google for "H2 tie-rod video" - the results push several videos and pictures of H2's getting stuck, broken and rescued.


Thank you Sir Machine :cheers:

http://www.4x4movies.com/download/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=74

I found the last part of the video that does not show the Jeep make the run. OK, so maybe it's a little more severe than a class 2 trail :suspense: , but still, the H2 owner does at least 2 things wrong:
1) Neglects to deflate his tire pressure to gain better traction
2) Instead of backing up and repositioning his beast, the H2 driver gives it the gas and stresses the components. :bonkers:

This video was shot in Moab and the trail was designed for 4WD vehicles with modifications that surpass stock specs - it ironically proves that because the vehicle has the Hummer name, owners really think it’s a Hummer. In all reality, it's a Tahoe. Do a Google for "H2 tie-rod video" - the results push several videos and pictures of H2's getting stuck, broken and rescued.

That video says it all, and it wasnt even a hard hit, it looks like it snapped as soon as it got traction..No Good!!! Thanks for the clip... :helpless:

I like them both the same even though the hummer looks like a washing machine on wheels though.
:yeah: But what a Good Looking washing machine.. :thumbsup:

For as much money as the Hummer ect, you should be able to kick ass offroad (even though for a luxury suv I will never take it offroad) and you should be able to use it as a daily driver. For 50,000+ you should be able to go over anything!

the problem is, it's not built to go off-roading. and that's why it's cheap compared to what it use to be and what the h1 costs. you have to look at what it's built for. a jeep wrangler is built for off-road, but it'll look funny when you pull up to a 5-star restaurant in one. you have to decide what you want to do with it before you buy it.

the problem is, it's not built to go off-roading. and that's why it's cheap compared to what it use to be and what the h1 costs. you have to look at what it's built for. a jeep wrangler is built for off-road, but it'll look funny when you pull up to a 5-star restaurant in one. you have to decide what you want to do with it before you buy it.


I agree with most of what you wrote but you must take in to consideration the marketing and sales approach H2 dealers are instilling into their owners. When you visit a Hummer dealer they immediately show you their manmade proving ground that they built behind the facility. They take you up and down some steep hills, through some 1' water, over some obstacles, etc. By the time you're done you have a full-blown erection and are ready for Moab...that’s when the true capabilities of the H2 show. I like the H2; I just think it’s way over hyped by the Mfg.

:lies:

The H2 kicks ass offroad. The Escalades are nice if you want to look like you push dope for a living. :tisk:

Check out this video:

http://www.thehummerclubinc.com/events/Club%20event%20Attica.wmv

Kinda funny seeing a bunch of Escalade owners chatting about H2 off road performance :rolleyes: ;)

That tie rod video is almost 2 years old now and I feel I can comment on it since I was there. Actually I was driving, it's my H2. Yes it was driver error, I had only wheeled a couple of times before and I hit the skinny peddle at about the worst possible moment. That will happen off roading, it's part of the deal, I am quite confident I could break any rig :shhh: . All off road vehicle will break from time to time btw.

I almost bought an Escalade and was waiting for the Suburban sized one to come out, then I saw an H2, liked it and bought it. Somewhere I decided since I live in Colorado I should try it out off road and have been off roading regularly since. I run trails because you can get to some places to camp etc. that say an "Escalade" :D can't, also the driving is fun and challenging and something to do on the weekend.

Is an H2 as good as an Escalade? Nope they are two different vehicles.
Would an Escalade have been better for running around town, absolutely, it's a trade off, my last truck was a Suburban and I miss the space and usability.
Does one look better than the other, I like them both, it's subjective and irrelevant.
Is an H2 the best off-road truck out there, nope, however they do better than most stock rigs and I am sure you guys can appreciate the need for leather heated seats and 6 cd changers etc. :coolgleam


So there is my 2 cents.

I just came back from my 3rd Moab trip, here is a link to a video I made. It's 70 megs (not small, but you guys are wealthy and have fast internet connectivity). Check it out, I got a bit better since the unfortunate tie rod incident. Mine is the Pewter rig with the rack and tier on the top (not the one with the chrome wheels).

http://elcova.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=5106011751&m=966104458


Laters.


Alec

:lies:

The H2 kicks ass offroad. The Escalades are nice if you want to look like you push dope for a living. :tisk:

Check out this video:

http://www.thehummerclubinc.com/events/Club%20event%20Attica.wmv

So only dope dealers can afford a 50K SUV.... Hmmm !!! thats an interesting concept..

That video was great, you wont see any tahoe doing that (because there not capable), I would take a H1 over an escalade anyday.

So only dope dealers can afford a 50K SUV.... Hmmm !!! thats an interesting concept..

You misunderstood. It's not the cost, its how it looks. http://www.fathevideo.com/forum/images/smiles/gangstasmile.gif

Here, you choose.
CHrysler, Hummer & Cadillac - all rolled into one (er, two)!
Now that's thinking!!

the one above was in Lowrider a few months back. it was nicknamed the "Humm-Deville." if that is the one.

Hummillac me-thinks!

So only dope dealers can afford a 50K SUV.... Hmmm !!! thats an interesting concept..

Funny, I've never had any problems peddling dope out of either the H2 or the 'Slade...AND I paid more than $50K for both - if you include the customization features. :)

Seriously tho, I have to echo Alec W. The 'Slade is made for cruising in comfort and looking Badass while doing it. The H2 is made for off-roading (and we use ours off-road) and it does a good job. Everyone points out the broken tie rods, flips, stalling, etc... For every one of those there are TONS of good points and moments. Besides, ANYONE who drives a vehicle off-road improperly can break it, flip it, or damage it in some way - this is way my wife drives the H2.

Apples and oranges IMHO.

-E (from San Antonio, TX)

04 white diamond AWD Escalade
03 yellow lux H2
70 black Karman Ghia

Funny, I've never had any problems peddling dope out of either the H2 or the 'Slade...
Exactly. You dont see pimps selling sex out of Geos now, do you?
Itz all amatta of appearances gents.

Funny, I've never had any problems peddling dope out of either the H2 or the 'Slade...
Exactly. You dont see pimps selling sex out of a Geos now, do you?
Itz all amatta of appearances gents.

eh, I like the H2.... simply for the fact it can do 80% of what the origanal Hummer could do... at half the cost...

...buying a luxury SUV, then not doing what it was made to do... is pointless.... perhaps that is why I respect Land Rover owners alot... well, the previous generation.... they went off roading alot.... if I had a Hummer... either one, I would... if I had an Escalade, it would get a grille guard, slight lift kit and bigger tires... none of this 26" wheel stuff.... why buy a truck when the worst 4x4'ing it'll see is hitting the curb at the mall?

Here is another H2 joke... I just found it interesting.....

Ever see that video of a stock Jeep Wrangler and a H2 go up a class 2 trail? The Jeep ran up the trial while the H2 broke a tie-rod. Class 2 trails are easy. The H2 only looks tough. I'd take a Z71 Tahoe or Suburban before a H2

From this was bourne the classic Wranger rear window sticker that reads: " H2 Recovery Team" Gotta love it.

Escalade all the way. The H2 is dropping rapidly in sales and interest as it starts to lose the newness appeal, and as owners are quickly trading them in due to the gas mileage and truck like drive and ride, the resale is going in the toilet. I already have found one H2 in the north for 27k, probably negotiable to about 25. Thats a 25000.00 loss of value in 2 years.

Due to this, there is an unreal lease deal going on right now... 599 a month GMAC Smartbuy. That is too cool for school. However, if I had 52k to spend on a Hummer, then Id obviously have a little more in reserve to pay for the king, which I consider the 2003 and up (for luxury AND ability, and the pre 2003 ability) Land Rover Range Rover, or even the less costly Toyota Land Cruiser/LX470, No contest, those two rigs, and the MYRIAD of trucks at my old stomping ground, JeepsUnlimited.com (Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Cherokee), will rip apart an H2 off the beaten path. Its just too big and heavy, plain and simple.

eh, I like the H2.... simply for the fact it can do 80% of what the origanal Hummer could do... at half the cost...

...buying a luxury SUV, then not doing what it was made to do... is pointless.... perhaps that is why I respect Land Rover owners alot... well, the previous generation.... they went off roading alot.... if I had a Hummer... either one, I would... if I had an Escalade, it would get a grille guard, slight lift kit and bigger tires... none of this 26" wheel stuff.... why buy a truck when the worst 4x4'ing it'll see is hitting the curb at the mall?

Here is another H2 joke... I just found it interesting.....

Keep in mind that if you find the origin of that image - the truck had ALREADY plowed through 4 other cars... Yeah it's F'd up, but I'd like to see any other vehicle get that far and look so good.

http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/1672787p-1789726c.html

Keep in mind that if you find the origin of that image - the truck had ALREADY plowed through 4 other cars... Yeah it's F'd up, but I'd like to see any other vehicle get that far and look so good.

http://www.adn.com/alaska/story/1672787p-1789726c.html

I agree, the passenger compartment is virtually untouched too. It looks by the door the driver pretty much just walked away.

From this was bourne the classic Wranger rear window sticker that reads: " H2 Recovery Team" Gotta love it.

Escalade all the way. The H2 is dropping rapidly in sales and interest as it starts to lose the newness appeal, and as owners are quickly trading them in due to the gas mileage and truck like drive and ride, the resale is going in the toilet. I already have found one H2 in the north for 27k, probably negotiable to about 25. Thats a 25000.00 loss of value in 2 years.

Due to this, there is an unreal lease deal going on right now... 599 a month GMAC Smartbuy. That is too cool for school. However, if I had 52k to spend on a Hummer, then Id obviously have a little more in reserve to pay for the king, which I consider the 2003 and up (for luxury AND ability, and the pre 2003 ability) Land Rover Range Rover, or even the less costly Toyota Land Cruiser/LX470, No contest, those two rigs, and the MYRIAD of trucks at my old stomping ground, JeepsUnlimited.com (Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Cherokee), will rip apart an H2 off the beaten path. Its just too big and heavy, plain and simple.

H2 isn't my thing. I love the way it looks, but it wasn't very practical for me. My wife, on the other hand, can't live without hers. But, a few points about your pot-shots at the H2:

Many people who are trading in their H2's are doing so because it's not the "big truck" you think it is. It is tall, it is wide, but it is NOT very big inside. You can sit 5 comfortably with the third row seat in place (6 if you want to get close on the back bench) - leaving you with very little room for cargo.

Trading in the H2 for gas milage? It's not a mystery when you buy it (ask the dealer and they'll TELL you or just look at the spec sheet), so it's not a surprise. And don't blame the war in Iraq - if you can shell out the cash for an H2 (or a 'Slade), you can afford the gas. What kind of milage do you THINK it gets? 6mpg? (That's what most people who bash it think). Take a look at the spec sheet and you'll see it gets about the same milage as the 'Slade - 12city/17hwy. My favorite is the Touareg clan who think their ride is SO much better for the environment (when it's not in the shop)...at 14mpg.

And as far as resale going in the toilet. That is a phenomenon that occurs with 90% of the auto market. The 'Slade is one of the few that hold their value very well. I am a very happy owner of one. I also think that those who want the H2, have them, so sales are equalizing. Plus, there may be some hesitation with the H3 coming out soon - a smaller, cheaper, and just as capable off-road machine.

Finally, the H2 is too big and heavy? Jeeps will rip it up off the beaten path? I'll agree that there are things the Jeep can do that the H2 can't. However, the reciprocal is also true. Try looking at some of the H2 forums and look at their videos of Jeeps, LandCruisers, Blazers, Land Rovers, and yes, H2's going over the SAME obstacles at MOAB or whatever favorite offroad spot you know. A lot of the Jeep forums and other clubs have been hesitant because they think the H2 is a lumbering beast and doesn't belong. But, the ability of the truck (be it Jeep or H2) has to do with the wheelbase, the equipment, and mostly, the driver.

Here's some pics and video from the local group that my wife goes off-roading with: http://h2southtexas.com/gallery.html

Anyway, I like the way it looks, but I'll continue cruising (on-road) in my 'Slade. I prefer that ride any day.

i'd like to see them race that would be sweet!

i'd like to see them race that would be sweet!

Race? You mean H2 Vs Escalade?

The main difference is in the tonnage. The H2 has heavy duty reinforced off-road EVERYTHING. The Escalade weighs about 2,000 pounds less with the same engine. Who do YOU think would win that one.

NO contest! even the 2WD Escalade would blow the doors off an H2.

-E

Hey flutie flakes,

I just got some video footage of a friend of my wife's who has a pumped up HUMMER (Lingenfelter package - I do not know the stats or equipment, so don't ask) who totally SMOKED a Ford Lightning at a local drag strip.

This could possibly be a HUMMER which would toast an Escalade...

http://www.svt-enthusiast.com/albums/Steeles-Lightning/SMOKEDLIGHTNING.wmv

Holy damn that's sweet! I didn't think that was possible on a vehicle that heavy.

Brian

I found a good video, nothing to do with hummer or escalade, crappy fords, but it was pretty cool


http://4wheeldrive.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=4wheeldrive&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rrorc.com%2Fvideo%2Fchubfest20 03.wmv

I like the H2 a lot. I really do.

I just like the Yukon Denali better.

I like the Escalade best. That would be my preference.

When you start adding all the options you'll want, the Escalade will cost more $$$$$.

But relatively speaking, they're all in the same price range.

Isn't the H2 based on a suburban? I heard that an H2 suxs at off roading and a jeep or a land cruiser is much better. Does anyone here have a escalade xs500? I'm suprised there hasn't been that much hype about it. 500hp supercharged escalade taking 6 seconds to 60 sounds awesome. They will probobly come out with a H2 alpha with the 500hp enine as well.

I currently own an 04 slade and I am happy with it I have also had the H2 and loved it, and as silly as it sounds the only reason for letting the h2 go was there was no true place to keep my clubs with the third seat in. But as an owner of each I am fully aware that they are both just high end suburbans everything underneath is true and true yukon what truly makes them escalade or hummer is the bolts and nuts either luxury or off road bulk with a hint of some luxury, your pick

i have an hummer h2 sut and its great for off-roading i put some 20' wheels with the mudd grappler tire and works fine plus we got the winch u never know when u might get stuck which happened once but with the last year model which was the closed h2 and we also have a 04 escalade which is mine i mean its true esclades are for cruising not for off-roading to sensitive i mean to say the truth u can f()ck up the escalade quickly but i like the escalade becuz of the motor 6.0 and well its luxurious from the outside but i like the hummer cuz i mean u see one commin ur gonna turn to see even if u dont want to it gives lots of attention

alright - i'm speaking without any knowledge on the whole subject really, but - i don't know what happened in the beginning, whether GM purchased hummer or whatever, but whatever happened, i feel they turned the hummer into shit. seems like they prettied it up for the general public and sacrificed what really counts, the balls. half the time i see a 'hummer' driving down the street, there's some lady behind the wheel probably going to pick up groceries or get her kids from school. i'd love to own a hummer some day, but not the h2 or h3 or whatever, i want the real deal.

once again.. i'm only speaking from hearsay, and what i see myself. i haven't actually looked into it.. but thought i'd voice my opinion nonetheless.

alright - i'm speaking without any knowledge on the whole subject really, but - i don't know what happened in the beginning, whether GM purchased hummer or whatever, but whatever happened, i feel they turned the hummer into shit. seems like they prettied it up for the general public and sacrificed what really counts, the balls. half the time i see a 'hummer' driving down the street, there's some lady behind the wheel probably going to pick up groceries or get her kids from school. i'd love to own a hummer some day, but not the h2 or h3 or whatever, i want the real deal.

once again.. i'm only speaking from hearsay, and what i see myself. i haven't actually looked into it.. but thought i'd voice my opinion nonetheless.


I agree, Bring it back to old H1 days! You can go anywhere in the truck!

The H1 and H2, Bah. If it were availbe on the market (and if I had enough green) I would get the military version of the hummer. Now that is one badass vehicle.