: XM Radio vs. Pandora



sube5186
08-07-10, 03:19 PM
Does anyone use Pandora? Tried it on my wife's phone in her car the other day. I think I'll be switching to this when my XM subscription expires.


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RippyPartsDept
08-07-10, 03:28 PM
pandora all the way... if you really use it enough to be annoyed by the commercials then pay for the subscription (pandora one) - also you can get a lot more out of pandora by adding more seeds (songs and artists) to stations than just one song or artist.

I recently went on a roadtrip and only had pandora go out on me once (lost cell connection) ... weird that it didn't drop on the way back... it must have been a really small deadspot

stevec5375
08-07-10, 04:18 PM
Yeah. I'm dropping XM after my current subscription runs out. They have so little music on the channels I listen to that most of it repeats a lot. It's convenient to not have to hook up my phone via Aux In though. To listen to Pandora, I have to hook up both Aux In and the USB port to charge my phone. It uses up a lot of battery if you listen for an extended period of time.

RippyPartsDept
08-09-10, 01:18 PM
yeah, i've got a car charger for trips, and a battery pack for everyday use (it was on sale for like 80% off so i couldn't not get it!) -- usually at the end of a day i've just barely got into the phone's battery

don't forget that you can add music 'seeds' to your stations for more variety or use the quicklist to combine them

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 08:50 AM
Question....

I use Slacker on my iPhone.

Can my iPhone be plugged into the same AUX feed
(in the arm rest compartment) and be able to play through
my SRX in AUX mode just like I would an iPod?

If that is the case, it's a great alternative to XM
although you lose the ability to switch songs (unless
the steering wheel toggle will do that)

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 09:17 AM
To sort of answer my own thread....

Yes, you can play Slacker Radio through
your SRX car speakers by hooking your iPhone
to the supplied cable in the armrest compartment.

However...

The iPhone 4 is not compatible. What will happen
is that once you plug in the iPhone 4 you will get
a message on the phone that the cable is not
compatible. The music will play through the
speakers in AUX mode but cuts in and out every
two seconds. You cannot control any aspect of
the music (at least not Slacker Radio) with the
steering wheel controls.

Now....

What I did was simply disconnect the cable
that came with the SRX.

I plugged in a standard car charger for the
iPhone and then used a separate cable from
the headphone jack of the iPhone into the
AUX input.

Works beautifully, though it's messy with
cables running out of the armrest.

In any case, at least for Slacker Radio,
it sounds much better than XM. The bitrate
is higher so the sound quality really rocks.

Still can't control the music with any of the
steering controls, but I have an iPhone holder
on my console so when I want to change a
song I have easy access to the iPhone screen.

Thanks so much for bringing this subject
up because up until now I had no idea that
I could play Slacker or Pandora from my
iPhone through the car radio.

RippyPartsDept
08-10-10, 10:03 AM
yeah, i've put a mount next to my steering wheel on the dash - and skipping next and thumbing up/down is just an extension of the finger. might as well be on the steering wheel

sube5186
08-10-10, 10:12 AM
What I did was simply disconnect the cable
that came with the SRX.

What cable are you referring to? My SRX didn't come with any audio cables.


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sube5186
08-10-10, 11:08 AM
Has anyone noticed a difference in audio quality between Slacker and Pandora? I've checked their websites thoroughly and can't find any mention of what bitrates they use. Pandora One supports 192Kbps streaming, but this is only via the computer, not for mobile devices.


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NJRonbo
08-10-10, 11:15 AM
My SRX didn't come with any audio cables.

Yeah, they don't. Cadillac got cheap!

I leased a CTS prior and just took the cable
with me when I went to the SRX.

Cadillac does have a nice cable that plugs
into the bottom of your iPod/iPhone. Instead
of having two separate cables (power and audio)
to run the device it uses just one cable.

Cadillac included the cable with the CTS
but the moment I realized the SRX did not
have one included I simply took the CTS
cable with me.

sube5186
08-10-10, 11:29 AM
OK, now I know which cable you're talking about. That split cable is specific to the CTS ONLY. My Service Dept guy gave me one for free. The label on the package stated that it's only needed for the CTS. The SRX works perfectly with the regular iPod cord that comes with the unit. I verified this with my son's iPod. So actually, they didn't get cheap. They just improved the electronics, thereby eliminating the need for a proprietary cable.


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leftturn
08-10-10, 11:34 AM
pandora all the way. only bad part is when my iphone gets bad reception sometimes and the music just stops

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 11:39 AM
Sube,

Aaah, okay. You mean I can't berate Cadillac here? Damn! :)

Unless I misunderstand how the cord works, I still think the
CTS cord is better because it allows you to use a single cord
for audio and power rather than two separate.

I mean, as far as I know, plugging a cord into the bottom of
the iPod is for power but I don't think it also carries audio.
You need a separate mini plug cable for that.

Of course, I may be wrong about that. Sube?

sube5186
08-10-10, 12:05 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble NJRonbo, but Cadillac actually got this one right. :) Plugging the standard cord into the bottom of the iPod supplies power and carries the audio. It even goes one step further and allows for display and control via the Nav screen. This is the main advantage over simply using the AUX input. Actually, it works this way for any MP3 player that has a "Mass Storage Mode". It has to be plugged into the USB port though. When you turn this setting on within the device, the SRX reads it exactly like a thumbdrive. Artists, songs, albums, Genre and playlists are all displayed on the Nav Screen.


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NJRonbo
08-10-10, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I am getting full NAV control with the CTS cord
but had no idea that it could be done with just a basic
iPod power cord plugged into the USB jack of the armrest
compartment.

Thanks for the clarification. Good to hear from you.

RippyPartsDept
08-10-10, 12:19 PM
The iPod "Dock" connector is the cable you're talking about and it does carry all the info plus power. You really think they need all 26 (or however many) connections there are in that connector for power only?

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 01:52 PM
I understand the connection concept. I have
a dock on my desk that with one cable I have
power and audio going to a set of powered
speakers.

As far as the Cadillac is concerned....

I just don't understand why a single Apple
iPod cable from my iPhone to the USB
input in the armrest compartment is not
carrying the audio signal.

I have to add a separate mini cable from
the headphone jack of the phone to the
mini cable input in the armrest compartment.

Is there a single cable option? Perhaps there
is but I am using the wrong input?

RippyPartsDept
08-10-10, 03:53 PM
NJRonbo, you have a MY08+ CTS?

If you want to have your product interface with an iPhone you have to pay Apple a license fee (I think).
GM has just recently started to integrate this functionality in their vehicles. It isn't available on on all models.

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 05:54 PM
Rippy,

I had a 2008 CTS (leased) and moved into
a 2010 RSX.

What is a MY08?

Anything further you can tell me about
hooking up an iPod/iPhone 4 with a single
connection rather than dual would be appreciated.

Thanks for all your help thus far.

RippyPartsDept
08-10-10, 06:13 PM
try putting your iPhone into airplane mode before connecting.
it looks like that is the solution (for now)
there might eventually be some software update from GM
that you'll have to go to the dealership to get, but don't hold your breath
also, check your pm's

JChen
08-10-10, 09:56 PM
I used my iPhone 4 with the '10 SRX last night using only the 26 pin connector to the USB port in the SRX with no issue whatsoever. I used the headunit on the SRX to control the iPod functions on the iPhone and even streamed music from Pandora. All worked flawlessly. No airplane mode necessary.

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 10:02 PM
Interesting. Maybe I will try the other USB input and see if I can
get both power and audio working with the iPhone 4 via the single
Apple connection cable.

I am not using the iPod so I don't expect anything else to show
up on the NAV screen related to Pandora or Slacker.

JChen
08-10-10, 10:08 PM
I know that there are USB cables from other companies besides Apple that only provide power. I am using the run of the mill, white Apple USB cord. What are you using?

In regards to Pandora or any other music app... I control those apps using the iPhone itself. Only the iPod app can be controlled by the headunit of the SRX.

NJRonbo
08-10-10, 10:36 PM
I am also using the standard, run of the mill, white Apple cord.

It's a slightly older cord that I think came with the previous iPhones.

However, when I plugged it into the iPhone 4 I get an incompatibility
message on the iPhone screen. That is probably the problem. Did they
make a new cord for the iPhone 4?

I believe there are also 2 USB ports in the armrest compartment.
I don't have it plugged into the one next to the car charger which is
the one I usually use for the iPod navigation screen. I will try switching
to that USB port and see if it makes a difference.

Just would love one cord to rule them all. If I can get audio and power
with the Apple cord plugged into the USB I will be a happy camper. Since
I see that you were able to do it I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

JChen
08-10-10, 10:50 PM
Hmmm... I'm not sure which version of the cable we're using... I also get the incompatibility pop up on my iPhone. I also get the same message on my '10 Camaro and the iPhone works on that as well. We're using the USB port directly next to the AUX input in the armrest. If that doesn't work, maybe try taking it to the dealer to have a looksee.

sube5186
08-11-10, 12:35 AM
Try updating the iPod's firmware. There was someone else on the forum having an incompatibility issue and I suggested that. It worked.


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RippyPartsDept
08-11-10, 09:37 AM
:yeah: