: Classic rap recommendations?



I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-05-10, 08:51 PM
Recently, I've been listening to a lot of NWA (straight outta compton) and really like it. I've got some other classic rap in my iPod, but would like to get some more of the good stuff. So what kinda stuff is good from this era (late '80s-mid '90s is what I was thinking)

hueterm
08-05-10, 08:58 PM
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Stingroo
08-05-10, 09:03 PM
Slick Rick - La Di Da Di; Children's Story; The Show (with Doug E. Fresh)
The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight (you can't get much more classic than that :thumbsup:)
Run DMC - It's Like That
Coolio - Gangster's Paradise; Fantastic Voyage
Afrika Bambataa - Planet Rock
Planet Patrol - Play at Your Own Risk
Grandmaster Flash - The Message; White Lines
Kurtis Blow - The Breaks
Warren G and Nate Dog - Regulators

I could go on for awhile. I love early rap, before it got all crappy like it is today. Songs by the same artist separated by semicolons.

Destroyer
08-05-10, 09:39 PM
RUN DMC!!! Rockbox is a favorite. King of rock, My Adidas, You Talk Too Much...........all good stuff



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXzWlPL_TKw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GND7sPNwWko

Stingroo
08-05-10, 09:43 PM
Run DMC is amazing. :)

Ooh, I also forgot You Be Illin'.

Stingroo
08-05-10, 09:44 PM
Not to double post, but also download the Beastie Boys Licensed to Ill. That entire album is a classic. :thumbsup:

Aron9000
08-05-10, 09:50 PM
Gotta put some Outkast in your mix. Check out:

Southernplaylistickcadillacfunkymusic(or however you spell it)
ATLiens
Aquemini

Some nice Caddies in this video as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBFYZxu2dw&feature=channel

Submariner409
08-05-10, 10:21 PM
..........from the Old Fart Department: Any sort of "rap" belongs in the cement that BP is trying to pump down the Gulf oil well pipe to seal it forever. Every word/note of it is vacuous, intimidating, disgusting, demeaning, poorly written batcrap.

For an American to create a "music" that defines their mothers, wives, and sisters as whores and bitches is testimony to the stupidity of the culture that spawned the idea. (It's no more "African American" than I am "Scotch American" - the supposed mother country of origin is nothing more than an unfortunately politically correct "you owes me" crutch.)

MauiV
08-05-10, 10:25 PM
These are artist and albums other than NWA that I LOVED at the time:

Too $hort Life is....Too Short

Easy E. Easy Does It.

Dr Dre The Chronic (generally considered the greatest rap/hip hop album ever made)

Ice Cube The Predator

The D.O.C. No One Can Do it Better

Public Enemy It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

Digital Underground Sex Packets

Ghetto Boys Greatest Hits

Slick Rick The Great Adventures of Slick Rick

Rob Base & DJ Easy Rock It Takes Two

2Pac All Eyez on Me

LL Cool J Walking With a Panter & Momma Said Knock You Out

Beastie Boys Liscene to Ill & Pauls Boutique

2 Live Crew As Nasty as They Want to Be

Yeah, Im showing my age

Stingroo
08-05-10, 10:27 PM
No way, Maui. Those are classics. I'm with you. :thumbsup:

It Takes Two! Oh my god that song... so good. Haven't heard it in ages. Time to start downloading

Also:
Young MC - Bust a Move
Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance (Yeah, I went there. WHAT NOW?!)

I'm forgetting literally hundreds of classics. There are sooooo many in my CDs that I haven't put to MP3 yet....

Stingroo
08-05-10, 10:38 PM
Sub, that's all you hear because you're listening to the wrong stuff. :) It may not be your cup of tea, and that's fine, but it isn't fair to demonize an entire genre due to mainstream bull that's out there today.

MauiV
08-05-10, 10:56 PM
No way, Maui. Those are classics. I'm with you. :thumbsup:

It Takes Two! Oh my god that song... so good. Haven't heard it in ages. Time to start downloading

Also:
Young MC - Bust a Move
Digital Underground - The Humpty Dance (Yeah, I went there. WHAT NOW?!)

I'm forgetting literally hundreds of classics. There are sooooo many in my CDs that I haven't put to MP3 yet....

IMO Freaks of the Industry is the Digital Undergrounds best song (2Pac started as a roadie and backup dancer for DU before getting a shot on one of their albums)

For you:

qz8i1AL3uls&feature=related

Stingroo
08-05-10, 10:58 PM
lol I just downloaded it. :)

I knew 2Pac was a backup dancer for them too. I'm full of random semi-useless knowledge. :thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-05-10, 11:09 PM
Let's see, what do I currently have...

NWA- Straight Outta Compton
Tone Loc- Funky Cold Medina
Young MC- Bust A Move (a classic)
Cypress Hill- Insane In The Brain
Beastie Boys- Sabotage (the thought that The Beastie Boys is 3 Jewish lads from Brooklyn is hilarious....and awesome)
Skee Lo- I Wish (very fitting for me)
Mo Money Mo Problems
Outkast- Ms Jackson/Roses/Hey Ya

I heard that Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation of Millions" is the greatest rap album ever. That's what All Music Guide said.

Jesda
08-05-10, 11:10 PM
Nate Dogg and Warren G have to regulate.

Stingroo
08-05-10, 11:17 PM
Jesda just got a million times cooler. For real. :highfive:

Destroyer
08-06-10, 12:40 AM
Not to double post, but also download the Beastie Boys Licensed to Ill. That entire album is a classic. :thumbsup:I am best friends with MC Yauch's first cousin. I could not believe my bud was that closely related to one of my favorite bands: the Beastie Boys. Not Jewish though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Y0cy-nvAg

billc83
08-06-10, 01:26 AM
It really depends if you want to go slightly forward or backwards from N.W.A. Around 1988 - '92 rap was finding where it was going. Albums from that era range from the traditional Run-DMC-esque old-school to proto-gangter to socially conscience stuff and everything in between. There are plenty of good (if overlapping) compilations from that era to get your feet wet.

(An extremely abridged and incomplete history of rap follows)

If you're like me, you may want to start from the beginning just to see how stuff evolved. Check out "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, the ever popular Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," Kurtis Blow, etc. - the real old schoolers. From there, the first big shift for the genre was Run-DMC. There early stuff was stripped down, but you can still here the rock influences (like Rock Box and King of Rock) which culminated in 1986's Raising Hell. Pick up your early LL Cool J and Beastie Boys, along with numerous other one hit wonders.

'88 was considered a golden year - the genre was finding out where it wanted to go but was still young enough to be fun. You have literally everything around '88 - '92, from pop (MC Hammer, Tone Loc, Young MC), socially conscious (De La Soul, Boogie Down Productions, Public Enemy), to early gangter rap (Ice T, Just Ice). Production became more refined, sampling was mastered and later bastardized, and beefs between two different places (in this case Queens' MC Shan and the Bronx's KRS-One) didn't result in someone getting shot.

NWA came along. Unlike other gangster rappers before him (who sounded like rappers, even if the subject material was more violent), Ice Cube sounded like a gangster. There's plenty of good stuff in the years that followed, but I'm too tired to carry on.

drewsdeville
08-06-10, 01:34 AM
Sub, that's all you hear because you're listening to the wrong stuff. :) It may not be your cup of tea, and that's fine, but it isn't fair to demonize an entire genre due to mainstream bull that's out there today.

I myself don't really care for rap just because I don't get along with the style. However, I still agree with this. This isn't unique to rap. The OP asked for some 80's and 90's rap. If you are concerned with the messages that 80's and 90's rap delivered, a lot American rock from the same era also delivered some really messed up messages as well. However, wrongfully, rap is always the first one to get "demonized".

77CDV
08-06-10, 02:00 AM
I'll say this for Chad, he has diverse musical taste.

FWIW, rap never fluffed my pillows, either. When it (along with grunge) came to dominate popular music in the early 90s, I took refuge in classical and early music.

Jesda
08-06-10, 09:33 AM
The best rap tells a story, like Homer's Odyssey, depicting everything from the sex and violence to deals and negotiations. The crappy stuff revolves around vain ghetto culture.

MauiV
08-06-10, 09:54 AM
Scarface lived a couple blocks over from me in The Woodlands, Tx. and a couple doors down from Doug Drabek. I used to see him all the time and all he ever drove was decked out Jags.

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Mid 90s is when I lost interest in hip hop/rap and prefer the NWA, Dr. Dre, Easy E, Too $hort, Geto Boys, LL Cool J etc of my HS years. Its when we got our drivers licenses, our parents didnt approve and a Alpine deck with a pair of Rockford Fosgate 12's and a Punch 40 was all you needed

Stingroo
08-06-10, 09:59 AM
My dad's got stories of those days... when he turned 18 he inherited like $500k because when he was born, he came out arm first and the doctor pushed his arm back in and broke it. So one of the first things he did was buy a brand new Grand National and decked the shit out of it. lol

MauiV
08-06-10, 10:00 AM
Nate Dogg and Warren G have to regulate.

Possibly the best wiki synopsis of ever written:


On a cool, clear night (typical to Southern California) Warren G travels through his neighborhood, searching for women with whom he might initiate sexual intercourse. He has chosen to engage in this pursuit alone.

Nate Dogg, having just arrived in Long Beach, seeks Warren. On his way to find Warren, Nate passes a car full of women who are excited to see him. Regardless, he insists to the women that there is no cause for excitement.

Warren makes a left turn at 21st Street and Lewis Ave, in the East Hill/Salt Lake neighborhood[6], where he sees a group of young men enjoying a game of dice together. He parks his car and greets them. He is excited to find people to play with, but to his chagrin, he discovers they intend to relieve him of his material possessions. Once the hopeful robbers reveal their firearms, Warren realizes he is in a less than favorable predicament.

Meanwhile, Nate passes the women, as they are low on his list of priorities. His primary concern is locating Warren. After curtly casting away the strumpets (whose interest in Nate was such that they crashed their automobile), he serendipitously stumbles upon his friend, Warren G, being held up by the young miscreants.

Warren, unaware that Nate is surreptitiously observing the scene unfold, is in disbelief that he is being robbed. The perpetrators have taken jewelry and a name brand designer watch from Warren, who is so incredulous that he asks what else the robbers intend to steal. This is most likely a rhetorical question.

Observing these unfortunate proceedings, Nate realizes that he may have to use his firearm to deliver his friend from harm.

The tension crescendos as the robbers point their guns to Warren's head. Warren senses the gravity of his situation. He cannot believe the events unfolding could happen in his own neighborhood. As he imagines himself in a fantastical escape, he catches a glimpse of his friend, Nate.

Nate has seventeen cartridges to expend (sixteen residing in the pistol's magazine, with a solitary round placed in the chamber and ready to be fired) on the group of robbers, and he uses many of them. Afterward, he generously shares the credit for neutralizing the situation with Warren, though it is clear that Nate did all of the difficult work. Putting congratulations aside, Nate quickly reminds himself that he has committed multiple homicides to save Warren before letting his friend know that there are females nearby if he wishes to fornicate with them.

Warren recalls that it was the promise of copulation that coaxed him away from his previous activities, and is thankful that Nate knows a way to satisfy these urges.

Nate quickly finds the women who earlier crashed their car on Nate's account. He remarks to one that he is fond of her physical appeal. The woman, impressed by Nate's singing ability, asks that he and Warren allow her and her friends to share transportation. Soon, both friends are driving with automobiles full of women to the East Side Motel, presumably to consummate their flirtation in an orgy.

The third verse is more expository, with Warren and Nate explaining their G Funk musical style. Warren displays his bravado by claiming that individuals with equivalent knowledge could not even attempt to approach his level of lyrical mastery. There follows a brief discussion of the genre's musicological features, with special care taken to point out that in said milieu the rhythm is not in fact the rhythm, as one might assume, but actually the bass. Similarly the bass serves a purpose closer to that which the treble would in more traditional musical forms. Nate goes on to note that if any third party smokes as he does, they would find themselves in a state of intoxication daily (from Nate's other works, it can be inferred that the substance referenced is marijuana). Nate concludes his delineation of the night by issuing a vague threat to "busters," suggesting that he and Warren will further "regulate" any potential incidents in the future (presumably by engaging their enemies with small arms fire).

Stingroo
08-06-10, 10:40 AM
That was the funniest shit I've ever read. I had to share that with Facebook. Thank you, sir. :lol:

Jesda
08-06-10, 10:42 AM
:histeric::histeric::histeric::histeric:

Night Wolf
08-06-10, 03:06 PM
Classic. My personal "summer" song...

X_PDns23RWY

77CDV
08-06-10, 04:25 PM
Possibly the best wiki synopsis of ever written:

Ok, now that's hilarious! :rofl:

themadwacker1
08-06-10, 04:25 PM
Recently, I've been listening to a lot of NWA (straight outta compton) and really like it. I've got some other classic rap in my iPod, but would like to get some more of the good stuff. So what kinda stuff is good from this era (late '80s-mid '90s is what I was thinking)

This is all I can think of for now.


Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ

Ice-T - I'm Your Pusher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoZbWOxwH3g

Ice T Colors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gynkzibz8UI&feature=related

Bomb the Bass - "Beat Dis" (UK Extended Dis)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdHLn_iHTSs

PM Dawn - Set Adrift on Memories Bliss, Extended Remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1ju_NfnhM

Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

Snow-Informer (By Alex3030)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D39Lm_HRfOs&feature=related

77CDV
08-06-10, 04:33 PM
Vanilla Ice? Really?

Jesda
08-06-10, 04:38 PM
PM Dawn!

Stingroo
08-06-10, 05:16 PM
Informer! Yes such an epic song! Oh my god I forgot about that too...

Yes Craig, Ice Ice Baby is actually pretty decent. Otherwise he sucks. lol

billc83
08-06-10, 05:54 PM
OK, a bit less tired; some deepers cuts you probably won't find first round out:

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message
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Fat Boys - Fat Boys
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UTFO - Roxanne Roxanne
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Boogie Down Productions - My Philosophy
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De La Soul - Me Myself and I
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Way too much for one post to cover...

Stingroo
08-06-10, 06:20 PM
Me Myself and I are great.

The Message is probably one of my favorite rap songs of all time.


My son said: "Daddy I don't wanna go to school
Cause my teacher's a jerk he must think I'm a fool
And all the kids smoke reefer
I think it'd be cheaper
If I just got a job; learn to be a street sweeper.
I'll dance to the beat
Shuffle my feet
Wear a shirt and tie, and run with the creeps.
'Cause it's all about money
Ain't a damn thing funny
You got to have a con in this land of milk n' honey."

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-06-10, 06:27 PM
Rappers Delight is awesome. They're rapping about things that happens in every day life for normal people. Nothing about killin' hoes or pimpin or whatever. Is that the first real rap song? 1979 seems like it would be...

Stingroo
08-06-10, 06:34 PM
Pretty much, yeah. Rapper's Delight is what started the rap genre off as far as I'm concerned.

Rapper's Delight is far and away my favorite rap song ever.

Have you ever been over a friend's house to eat, and the food just ain't no good?
I mean the macaroni's soggy, the peas are mushed, and the chicken tastes like wood!
So you try and play it off like you think you can, by saying that you're full.
But your friend says "Mama he's just being polite, he ain't finished nuh uh that's bull!"
So your heart starts pumpin' and you think of a lie, and you say that you already ate,
And your friend says "Man there's plenty of food!" so you pile some more on your plate.
While the stinky food's steamin' your mind starts a-dreamin' of the moment it's time to leave
Then you look at your plate, and your chicken's fully rotted into something that looks like cheese!
So you say "That's it, I gotta leave this place, I don't care what these people think.
I'm just sitting here making myself nauseous with this ugly food that stinks."
And so you bust out the door while it's still closed, still sick from the food you ate
And then you run to the store for quick relief from a bottle of Kaopectate.

It's so incredibly good! Now I need to listen to it again. :D

billc83
08-06-10, 08:54 PM
Rapper's Delight was the first rap song with any sort of presence outside of the little rap world of NY. Rap was around before then, and even recorded, but never had the popularity that song did (it hit #1 on the R&B charts, IIRC).

The Sugarhill Gang got a lot of hate from many of their contemporaries; they essentially were three guys put together to become a group and hadn't "paid there dues." Also, some of the verses were written by Grandmaster Caz (short for Casnova), which is why the one line starts "I'm the C-A-S-N, the O-V-A, and the rest is F-L-Y."

Sugarhill Records signed many of the original rap groups, but refused to change with the times.

Stingroo
08-06-10, 09:05 PM
You see I go by the code of the doctor of the mix, and these reasons I'll tell you why.

:hide: Oh, sorry. lol

Destroyer
08-06-10, 09:41 PM
I myself don't really care for rap just because I don't get along with the style. However, I still agree with this. This isn't unique to rap. The OP asked for some 80's and 90's rap. If you are concerned with the messages that 80's and 90's rap delivered, a lot American rock from the same era also delivered some really messed up messages as well. However, wrongfully, rap is always the first one to get "demonized".Rap music does suck with the exception of some of the early stuff like RUN DMC. At least it was clean. You never heard any hate with RUN DMC, never heard anything derogatory stuff against women, police, white people, didn't even hear them say the N word either. It was good, clean, fun to listen to rap music.

Stingroo
08-06-10, 10:02 PM
House of Pain - Jump Around

Just heard it on the radio, I was smiling the whole time. :thumbsup:

Destroyer
08-06-10, 10:34 PM
Vanilla Ice? Really?
You were there, you remember how huge he was in the late 80's. Sure he's a douchebag to the nth degree but he has left a permanent scar in music history.

77CDV
08-07-10, 01:57 AM
I vaguely remember the parody of "Ice Ice Baby". I was already tuning out from popular music by then.

Stingroo
08-07-10, 08:04 AM
Rice, Rice, Baby?

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 12:53 PM
IMO Freaks of the Industry is the Digital Undergrounds best song (2Pac started as a roadie and backup dancer for DU before getting a shot on one of their albums)

For you:

qz8i1AL3uls&feature=relatedDamn Maui, we must be brothers from another mutha...

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 01:09 PM
Here are some of my faves from a very impressionable time(excluding a ton of stuff already poasted...)


7A3 had one album: Coolin in Cali. a lot of good sings on that album.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU8AptKpOGM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmBIW-XRs7c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-cmkOssA-8




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UuFHMnWMRo

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 01:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCQhq6Ua70


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rJe2tOS90E


How about this? j/k...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLV9LstbmAo

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 01:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXEOESuiYcA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EXJHZ_KHRY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvS_Uk5yJM

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 01:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaUw_u55cEc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYp28tEAVvs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPfIIn5V_LQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGisre9xNU

thebigjimsho
08-07-10, 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwOEf05Lryk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB_fZ2ldJ9Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XF_aZvcb-c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iTfrmhDdFA

Stingroo
08-07-10, 02:16 PM
Oh! I almost forgot:

Naughty By Nature - OPP

and also by them: Hip Hop Hooray!