Just looked at this on the chrysler 300 forum!!
http://www.300cforums.com/showthread.php?t=1167

That forum is funny......

How can you compair a $26k car with a $60K+ SUV??? And the guy who said he traded in his BMW 745i for a 300c?!?!?! (LOL) He is crazy! So let them drive their 300 "c"rap, an I will continue to drive my Escalade ESV (Exclusive Supreme Vehicle).

K-Lac Out......

I respect both cars equally, I don't see why there is a conflict, other than rappers getting "tired" with their Escalades and moving over to the new 300's, which is something I couldn't give a damn about. The 300C is a very nice, fast car, and I'm looking forward to the srt version, which is even better :D. Base model seemed a bit underpowered when I drove it though.

Some of the posts there made fun of the Escalade as an "oversized monstrosity", which I kinda agree with, I'm only driving it because I need 8 seats. But it does offer a bit more comfort than the 300C, in terms of ride quality, seating, etc. If I had $30k right now I'd be at a Dodge dealership quick, because the Magnum is cooler imo, and has a nicer rear end.

Both share poor quality interiors though, but its less of an issue with the 300C due to its smaller price tag.

I would like to know Northern Riders' source for the info regarding the 300 being quieter than a DTS by 2 decibels at 70 mph. My Dad has a new DTS and I've never been in a quieter car at high speed. I'm sure the 300 is quiet, but when you consider the brick like areodynamics of the front end, you're going to hear wind noise, period!


I see many 300 owners putting too much faith in the Mercedes involvement thinking that alone gives them a superior car. Have they not seen the latest quality ratings? It is very much Chrysler that has some catching up to do! Feel free to post this in your 300 Forum. :D I will try to get the JD Power ratings up here.

I intend to sell my 2003 Town Car Limited Ed in late 2005, and get a 2006 SRT-8 300C. I was in a 2004 300C Hemi last week. I'm sold. After a year on the market, the initial rush of "gotta have it NOW NOW NOW" sheep will be looking at another new face in yet another pasture, and I will not have to pay $5,000 OVER MSRLP. At 425 H.P. and 400 Tq there will not be many sedans to take it > bone stock -vs- bone stock. (and) it's sharp looking!
(I'm 100% positive it will NOT ride satin silky smooth like my T.C. however. (or for that matter, my '93 60 Spcl.)

Since they are putting so much faith in MB, post this and see the reactions:(much more serious than any Cadillac problems I've seen on this Forum.)

http://www.mercedes-benz-usa.com/mlclass.php


Cadillac also beat TOYOTA!

http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7285&sid=175&n=156

bwahahaha, go read user: Upstate's post (page 1). What a fool. read the list of cars he **SUPPOSEDLY** had and now is in love with a chrysler??? hahahahaha, I mean damn, atleast make your lie somewhat convincible! :histeric: :cookoo:

Since they are putting so much faith in MB, post this and see the reactions:(much more serious than any Cadillac problems I've seen on this Forum.)

http://www.mercedes-benz-usa.com/mlclass.php




That is one crazy website!

I dont know guys.... I was going to trade in my Escalade for a 300c, but now I'm thinking of trading it for a horse instead, I like the fuel economy and its easy to park!!! :)

Well the bug got to me too, I'm trading in my Escalade and the local Chrysler dealer is not only giving me two 300's, but is throwing in a Neon and a PT Cruiser. :histeric:

OH NO! somebody has a different opinion when it comes to what they want to drive? better go teach them a lesson! (please don't use this comment against me when i criticise people for putting altezzas, etc on their cars. two very different situations.)

the 300C is a nice car, especially when you factor the price in. i'd rather spend my money on a 300C SRT-8 than an Escalade. obviously, most of the people on this board have a different opinion and thats why they have Escalades.

like i said before, chrysler will always be the wannabe Cadillac. they know that and they are just mad. so im gonna go out and drive my Caddy and get the looks left and right and let those chrysler drivers stare in awe at the Fleet.

I think I will keep my Escalade, it will probably be better in the snow anyway. :p :p

i don't understand how some people can compare 2 very different segments of cars.
300c fits cts/sts class but the price alone makes a huge difference between the 2.

Also people that said cadillac has a lot of catching up to do, mb/chrysler has a lot of catching up to do in terms of these reliabilty/quality ratings.

few of my neighbors with 300c stare at my car everytime i pass by (it must be the high polished forged 19" wheels).
Oh i drool over a s-type r and s4 on my street every time i pass by them.

quotes from their forum:

"Isnt the Escalade a Truck. In its Chevy form it an Avalanche truck. In its GMC form its a Sierra. I dont see it way is everyone comparing the 300 to a truck.
Oh for the record i love the Escalade in all its forms. Also I own a GMC Yukon so i guess i have one in one of its forms.
It's the same as the Chevy or the GMC, with nothing extra that isn't glued or bolted on."

This ignorance speaks for itself. Comparing a GMC Sierra to a Cadillac? :cookoo: I like a good Yukon or Sierra as much as the next guy (if I'm going off-roading), but to compare the fit, finish, sound, and ride quality of a Sierra or Yukon with a Cadillac Escalade is stupid...stupid...stupid. Clearly this person hasn't taken the time to drive and compare all 3 vehicles. I test drove all the above and more, and Then I bought the Lade because it was quiter, more powerful, and nicer then all the above.

I can hardly make sense of why people are comparing these 2 vehicles to each other. The 300C is an eye catcher, but in its "base model" form its just plain ugly IMHO.

Regarding reliability of Chrystler products....I guess my luck has been much worse then most people. My JGC spent more time in the shop then it did in my garage. I ,and my family, have (with some exception) always driven GM vehicles, and had no problems with reliability.

there's no way you can compare a 300c to an escalade. why don't you compare a cts-v to an enzo while you're at it too. that's incredible. buy what you want, but don't try to tell me your 300c i can buy for 20k is going to turn heads more than my escalade. if your escalade can't turn heads, it must be a problem with what's sitting inside the truck, cuz it's not a problem with the outside.

I dont understand this, they are saying the 300c is the next big thing. Yes, it looks nice and the rear wheel drive hemi is nice. But in the end its a high volume car. You cannot tell the difference from the base model to the hemi. Also they are comparing a suv to a sedan. I would like to see that car go through mud or snow and have 10 sheets of plywood and 40 studs in the back.

The upcoming SRT-8 will look different. Lowered 1" - Unique Rims and 20" tires/wheels - Small rear "lip" spoiler - body colored grille, with chrome accents & surround - slightly altered headlamps - chromed dual pipes that stick out 3" from the body. SRT-8 badging.

I personally never owned a Chrysler product. My late parents however, ONLY purchased Imperials, from 1957 thru & including 1978. I never recall having any problems with them. If they were unhappy, they never would have continued with them. I learned to drive on a 235" loooong 80" W-I-D-E 5,200 pound 1963 LeBaron 4-Door Southampton Hardtop.

there's no way you can compare a 300c to an escalade. why don't you compare a cts-v to an enzo while you're at it too. that's incredible. buy what you want, but don't try to tell me your 300c i can buy for 20k is going to turn heads more than my escalade. if your escalade can't turn heads, it must be a problem with what's sitting inside the truck, cuz it's not a problem with the outside.

:yeah: :nyanya:

there's no way you can compare a 300c to an escalade. why don't you compare a cts-v to an enzo while you're at it too. that's incredible. buy what you want, but don't try to tell me your 300c i can buy for 20k is going to turn heads more than my escalade. if your escalade can't turn heads, it must be a problem with what's sitting inside the truck, cuz it's not a problem with the outside.

Last time I checked the 300C wasn't 20k, Your thinking about the base model 300 which is different in styling to the 300C if you compare the both. I've been coming on this forum for months now and never registered. But this post caught my attention and I had to sign up so I could post my opinion. I've had a Escalade since 2000, traded in my 2000 and got the 2003. I have also driven the 300C not the base model 300. Most of the comments been made on this forum and on the 300c forum are very immature and childish. First of all, yes I think the Escalade is played out and doesn't have the appeal it once had. And I am not a 300C owner nor am I thinking about buying one, im making this comment from my own point of view. Just a few months back when I heard that Cadillac was planning to come out with a new design for the Escalade I couldn't figure out why. The Escalade a few months ago was still looking sharp. But once the 300c hit the market it was clear why Cadillac needs a design change. With newer models hittin the market the design which came out in 2002 is now getting old. The fact of the matter is, even if it hurts and is hard to swallow the 300C is the new "bling" car. Price tag aside, the car is turning heads and it is a bold new design which is taking the market by storm. The CTS does not have a bling factor nor imo turn heads. The CTS is not a car which is geared for the younger market like the Escalade. The Escalade has been a success story for GM and Cadillac but the CTS can not compare to looks of the 300. And comments about been rich and poor are just plain stupid. I bought my used 2003 Escalade with 20,000 miles with no accidents and I purchased it for $34,000 which is pretty darn good considering that the owner paid close to $60,000 and lost about $26,000 in one year. A 300C owner can pull out a barley used Escalade for the same price. Does that make them poor? Does it make me poor cause I pulled a 2003 Escalade for $34,000? I work hard and don't front that I have a $60,000 car and I paid that much and put others down. The Escalade is not my dream car and its not a S Class Mercedes or a BMW 7 Series there is no way anyone can compare a Escalade to a high end european flagship car. Some of you on the forum and I say some should take it easy and not get too cocky about the fact that you drive a Cadillac and come out dissing anyone that drives anything other then a Cadillac. I am a proud owner of my Escalade but im not rich and im not a "baller" to put others down about that cars they prefer or they can afford.

there's no way you can compare a 300c to an escalade. why don't you compare a cts-v to an enzo while you're at it too. that's incredible. buy what you want, but don't try to tell me your 300c i can buy for 20k is going to turn heads more than my escalade. if your escalade can't turn heads, it must be a problem with what's sitting inside the truck, cuz it's not a problem with the outside.

I agree! It's like apples to oranges, etc. I do like the 300c, but there is something special about 5800 pounds of luxury that no "car" can touch.

I have some advice for everyone BUY WHAT YOU WANT TO DRIVE!!! I am about to buy a mini cooper s for no other reason than i like the way it handles and I like the car now unless you own chrysler or GM(cadillac) why would you even care? And as soon as another brand makes a product I like I will buy it. Whether you are rich or poor buy what you like and you will be happy. No offense but when I bought my 04 escalade I didnt care what any of you thought.

Hey Jah,
Let me tell you where my personal opinion of this topic primarily originated from. I have owned quite a few cars for my age(right now I have 1 Caddy and 2 flagship germans), not to mention being able to drive some of my friend's cars which are, to my standards, very impressive. I have been lucky enough to have been exposed to firsthand (by mostly senior co-worker's clients) some of the most fully equipped and customized Exotics in Los Angles. My point is, the Escalade screams out power, luxury, and class with a touch of Taboo Badass Appeal. The 300 IMO is bland; it will not be an icon, a statement, an experience; but will only be a Chrysler. This is not a negative attribute, but rather a degree of heritage that cannot change with one model's entrance into the current market.

I totally agree with you that Cadillac does have the image of been a luxury car that Chrysler does not have. But I do think Chrysler has a huge hit with the 300 and I don't think the hype is going die down.

everyone i've talked to has said the same thing, that cars looks cool. and then you look at it again and say....well....maybe not. that coupled with the fact that you will have a cheap version (might not look the same, but will look similar) rolling around, and you don't have a car that's going to be a major hit. and if you don't think the cts is geared toward younger buyers, you need to go over to the cts forum. it might not have the 'bling' stock, but if that's really what you want, you can get it out of the cts. and to think caddy is redesigning the escalade just because the 300c is coming out is ridiculous. i bet gm never thought anyone would be having this debate. i stand by the fact that the 300c is a midsize sedan with good looks and now some power. but the cts and sts also have good looks and the caddy name. and when you're talking about prestige, name is the major factor.

I've had a Escalade since 2000, traded in my 2000 and got the 2003. I think the Escalade is played out and doesn't have the appeal it once had. The Escalade a few months ago was still looking sharp.

You're an escallade owner who's been coming to the forum for months without signing up?? :hmm: Now that some people make some derogatory comments about a Chrystler 300C that spurs you to sign up all the sudden??
:wtf: Does any of this strike anyone else as really odd? :yup:

Hey guys, I joined a Chrysler forum today! :D

Check it out:
http://www.300cforums.com/showthread.php?p=12102#post12102post12102

Hey guys, I joined a Chrysler forum today! :D

Check it out:
http://www.300cforums.com/showthread.php?p=12102#post12102post12102


Go to our pole and vote:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20769

Hey guys, I joined a Chrysler forum today! :D

Check it out:
http://www.300cforums.com/showthread.php?p=12102#post12102post12102

Dang girl, you brought a tear to my eye. ;) You are going to do Cadillac owners proud, not to mention kick some major Chrysler-loving a$$ on that Forum. :D

I wonder if we should all join and teach them about real cars. :shhh:

Rock on Gothicaleigh, kick some ass.... i mean butt.... :suspense:

I agree, the 300C is a Great Car in terms of value, which it was meant to be. I dont think when they designed it they looked at any Cadillac product as competition. Instead, they designed it as a High-Value sedan, taking away buyers of OTHER middle of the line sedans. Sales is what determines if a vehicle is a hit or not, and so far this vehicle has done well. I dont think Chrysler would come out with a product that would get people who buy High end cars to trade them in for middle of the road, lets not forget that if the 300C was taking customers from Cadillac, it would as also take from other luxury marques (Mercedes Benz).

Can someone tell me why theres a pic of a blazer above??? I mean I like blazers.....

Can someone tell me why theres a pic of a blazer above??? I mean I like blazers.....

We call it "the firetruck" around here. :shhh:

RB had a nice Caddy but unfortunately a tree jumped in front of it and ruined it. ;)

Actually ralphie, it was a t-pole. QUite icy.
Before
http://adepssimius.is-a-geek.com:81/rob/new.jpg
After
http://adepssimius.is-a-geek.com:81/rob/Caddy%20from%20the%20front.jpg
I think im going to go cry for a lil bit. :crying:

Aw Man, that was an awsome car! For some reason I always thought you had a '92 or something, but that looks like a '94.

What is it with you Yanks and the flags all over the place. :hmm: Just kidding. :thumbsup:

p.s. what did you do with your gold hod ornament, it would look nice on my car. :yup: :p

i am amazed at how immature some of you are acting....LET IT GO...i love cadillacs, but i think the 300C is a great car. Be happy with what you have...stop comparing prices and this and that just to make yourselves feel better or other people look stupid. Cadillac has come a long way...but it still lacks in many areas in the premium sedan market. It seems to people on this board cadillac is better than any other car, thats fine if it is, but you dont need to sit there any put down everyting else, every car gets torn apart on this site because its not a cadillac, (my 93 sts beat a porche!, etc. YEA RIIIIGHT!!! :rolleyes2 ), and comparing a 300C to a cts v??? COME ON...two totally differnt markets, plus one is 15k more than the other. but then as soon as someone says anything abotu cadillac, everyone is crying a river making it a big deal. Let people like what they like and let it be. I am an automobile enthusiast, if i like it, i like it, no matter what marque it is. :rolleyes2

Comeon ralphie, its right in the ownership thing. Thats my moms old condo/house in the background. Ehhh, i can't wait till its sold.

You're an escallade owner who's been coming to the forum for months without signing up?? :hmm: Now that some people make some derogatory comments about a Chrystler 300C that spurs you to sign up all the sudden??
:wtf: Does any of this strike anyone else as really odd? :yup:

This is the immature and stupid comments I was talking about. You pretty much answered your own stupidity.

Ladies, lets not get in a fight...

I just wish that the 300 didnt bare the sad sad name of a chrysler wanna be luxury car, but came out as a cadillac or mercedes lexus ect.... I would think it would be way better, and more popular.

i am amazed at how immature some of you are acting....LET IT GO...i love cadillacs, but i think the 300C is a great car. Be happy with what you have...stop comparing prices and this and that just to make yourselves feel better or other people look stupid. Cadillac has come a long way...but it still lacks in many areas in the premium sedan market. It seems to people on this board cadillac is better than any other car, thats fine if it is, but you dont need to sit there any put down everyting else, every car gets torn apart on this site because its not a cadillac, (my 93 sts beat a porche!, etc. YEA RIIIIGHT!!! :rolleyes2 ), and comparing a 300C to a cts v??? COME ON...two totally differnt markets, plus one is 15k more than the other. but then as soon as someone says anything abotu cadillac, everyone is crying a river making it a big deal. Let people like what they like and let it be. I am an automobile enthusiast, if i like it, i like it, no matter what marque it is. :rolleyes2
easy now. as far as i can tell, it wasn't the 'caddy people' who started this fued. it was people coming to a CADILLAC board and saying the 300c is better than an escalade. you say comparing a 300c to a cts-v is ridiculous, well it's better than trying to compare it to an escalade. at least the cts-v is a car, and even a sedan. i'm a car nut too, and i love all cars. but at the same time, if you come on here and say the 300c is better than an escalade, i'm going to argue it. the same as if you said a cts-v is better than an enzo, or more luxurious than a maybach. before jumping on the caddy owners, you need to re-read and see who started the whole discussion.

At the risk of sounding inflammatory and argumenative:

This is the immature and stupid comments I was talking about. You pretty much answered your own stupidity.

Most of the comments been made on this forum and on the 300c forum are very immature and childish. First of all, yes I think the Escalade is played out and doesn't have the appeal it once had.


As far as I can tell there's nothing stupid about my post, which was intended to point out the fact that I believe you're not even a Cadillac owner. Of course, I can't prove that, but I believe your are a poser. :devil: I agree people regularly say childish things on the forum, but what possesses you to join the forum all the sudden when something negative is said about a 300C? I would never believe that an Escalade owner (no matter what year they own) would admit they think the Lade's styling is "played out, and lacks the appeal it once had." If I owned a vehicle I felt that way about I'd sell it pretty darn quick.

In summary: you own a Cadillac (which in your opinion is outdated and lacks appeal), but you only joined the forum (which you believe is full of childish and immature posts) to stick up for the poor, voiceless 300C owners. And...you think I make stupid posts? Come on.... :violin: get back on your meds man.

Rolex, quit being inflammitory and argumentative.

Look, the 300c is a kick ass car. It competes well with the CTS, and the SRT8 version will compete well with the CTS-V. It also competes pretty well with the DeVille and STS. It might be a slight step down from Caddy, but it's three new Kias cheaper too.

Did ya'll read the latest on that 300 Forum? Now they are so defensive they are saying there is NO difference between a Cadillac and a Chevy, and that they have shared components. This may be true for some things like the 5.7L engine in the Broughm, but as far as I know no Chevy had the 4.9, and tradition is kept alive by only producing Cadillacs in detroit. I don't think the new Devilles, etc. share components with Chev today, but they gave reference to the Cimmeron being a Cavalier. Ancient history. Things change.

BLAH BLAH BLAH There both nice vehicles i was thinkin about gettin one myself but instead i just picked up a 2005 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR TODAY VERY VERY VERY NICE.... But i do LOVE MY CADDYS.. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

BLAH BLAH BLAH There both nice vehicles i was thinkin about gettin one myself but instead i just picked up a 2005 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR TODAY VERY VERY VERY NICE.... But i do LOVE MY CADDYS.. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Blah Blah Blah, they also called the Escalade a truck equivelant to and no better than an Avalanche. :devil:

My God, what, do all Americans have a money tree in their backyard. :confused: :crying:

Rolex, quit being inflammitory and argumentative.



:hide: :canttalk:

Did ya'll read the latest on that 300 Forum? Now they are so defensive they are saying there is NO difference between a Cadillac and a Chevy, and that they have shared components.

I say who cares. If you drive around in a rickshaw and think that its the same as a stretch limo then all the power to you. You get ALL the luxury without the cost. I wish I had cheap tastes, I would spend WAY less money!! :yup:

Rolex, quit being inflammitory and argumentative.

Look, the 300c is a kick ass car. It competes well with the CTS, and the SRT8 version will compete well with the CTS-V. It also competes pretty well with the DeVille and STS. It might be a slight step down from Caddy, but it's three new Kias cheaper too.
i would agree with all of that, what i don't agree with is saying the 300c is better than an escalade. i don't think you can compare the two.

and for anyone who thinks the escalade is an avalanche, drive both of them like i did and see what you think. more power, more comfortable, less noise, softer ride, better warranty, nicer looking, gets more looks. so i guess except for the suspension, insulation, engine, seats, some interior parts, body panels, and emblems, yeah it's an avalanche :)

Did ya'll read the latest on that 300 Forum? Now they are so defensive they are saying there is NO difference between a Cadillac and a Chevy, and that they have shared components. This may be true for some things like the 5.7L engine in the Broughm, but as far as I know no Chevy had the 4.9, and tradition is kept alive by only producing Cadillacs in detroit. I don't think the new Devilles, etc. share components with Chev today, but they gave reference to the Cimmeron being a Cavalier. Ancient history. Things change.

I wouldn't think that someone with a Chrysler would want to be dredging up past automotive mistakes. Remember the K-cars?

The new Cadillacs are nothing like the rest of GM. With each new redesign, the company grows more independent of the corporate sharing, unlike the Chrysler divisions which are sharing more and more parts (how many cars have the Hemi now?). Hypocritical is what you call it.

I wouldn't think that someone with a Chrysler would want to be dredging up past automotive mistakes. Remember the K-cars?

The new Cadillacs are nothing like the rest of GM. With each new redesign, the company grows more independent of the corporate sharing, unlike the Chrysler divisions which are sharing more and more parts (how many cars have the Hemi now?). Hypocritical is what you call it.

Good points! If you ever need help on that 300 Forum let me know, I'll join up. I noticed it's only yourself, Hetrain, and Deville Concours there defending Cadillac tradition and heritage.

Then again, they might throw us out if I joined. :hmm: :p

The Escalade to me is a truck and thats it. Its not a image booster nor do I drive around like im hot sh*t and im sitting on top of the world. Because I come on here and voice my opinions makes me a Cadillac hater? If you view my comments in that way then let it be. Cadillac doesn't own me and doesn't pay me to tell people how impressed im with the Escalade or how "cool" I am when I drive one. The Escalade is a nice truck to go as far as to call it luxury I don't know. If you want to compare luxury suv's then compare the Escalade with the Range Rover. You just can't. Around here Escalades' are dime a dozen and go look in your local buy and sell or auto trader, used Escalade's are very affordable so how can you call a car like the 300C cheap? And when I talk used most of the trucks are in almost brand new condtion. The point of me posting was that I thought making comments about people who drive cars like the 300C are poor or can't afford "real" luxury was immature. I do take offence to that because I didn't pay $50,000 for my Escalade so does not me poor?

The Escalade to me is a truck and thats it. Its not a image booster nor do I drive around like im hot sh*t and im sitting on top of the world. Because I come on here and voice my opinions makes me a Cadillac hater? If you view my comments in that way then let it be. Cadillac doesn't own me and doesn't pay me to tell people how impressed im with the Escalade or how "cool" I am when I drive one. The Escalade is a nice truck to go as far as to call it luxury I don't know. If you want to compare luxury suv's then compare the Escalade with the Range Rover. You just can't. Around here Escalades' are dime a dozen and go look in your local buy and sell or auto trader, used Escalade's are very affordable so how can you call a car like the 300C cheap? And when I talk used most of the trucks are in almost brand new condtion. The point of me posting was that I thought making comments about people who drive cars like the 300C are poor or can't afford "real" luxury was immature. I do take offence to that because I didn't pay $50,000 for my Escalade so does not me poor?

Range Rovers were not doing good on quality surveys that I've seen lately. They are near the bottom along with Kia and VW. (JD Power)

News Flash, Cadillacs are luxury vehicles, and just because they depreciate (like everything else eventually) does not make them any less so.

You might be reading too much into this thread. Just because we drive Cadillacs does not mean we think we are wearing a crown, red velvet cape and sitting on a throne (well, I do :) ) but these are prestigue cars that have a proud tradition dating back to 1902, something no Lexus or Range Rover cam claim.

I havent really commented on this post....but Jah how can you say the escalade isnt luxury? Are you outta your mind? There is a reason why everyone stares at escalades when they drive by. I get looks from teenagers all the way up to retired elderly people. The escalade is a status symbol, and **ALMOST** everyone wants one. If you dont think its hot, then either A-your in denial, or B-your just plain blind. Ive never met one person who said they didnt like the looks of an Escalade, NOT ONE!!!

I didn't pay $50,000 for my Escalade so does not me poor?

:hmm: :hmm: Que?

:hmm: :hmm: Que?

Does he what mean? :yup: :D

The Escalade to me is a truck and thats it. The Escalade is a nice truck to go as far as to call it luxury I don't know.

I totally agree with you that Cadillac does have the image of been a luxury car that Chrysler does not have.

Is this what they mean by flip-flop? :devil:

Cadillac compared to Chrysler is luxury but for example I wouldn't compare Cadillac to Mercedes,BMW or Audi. Im not on here to start sh*t up, everyone has there own opinions and I don't think the Escalade has the best luxury value at $50,000+. I do own a Escalade and im pretty sure that gives me the right to make a opinion even though it goes againist what others on this forum might think. And about everyone wanting to own a Escalade, I think you should look at rappers to answer your question. Escalade has been mentioned in every rap song there is and has been placed in music videos. I think thats one of the biggest reasons why Escalade is doing so well with the younger buyers. If the Denali for explain was placed in rap songs and in music videos I bet the sales would increase and do as well as the Escalade. I mean look at the 300C, every rapper is putting the 300C in there music video but does it make it a luxury car? No it just hypes up the product so every kid out there wants one. Im not saying its because of the media but it sure does have a huge reason behind the success of the Escalade. The Escalade does have appeal don't get me wrong but I think its more hype within the media which has made it into what it is today.

Paragraphs dude.

THe escalade does have a lot of hype, which makes them popular.

The denali is also popular, but conisdered inferior even though its practically the same thing.

The 300c is a lot for the money, but can it tow a trailer? No. Can it carry eight people? no. Does it go somewhere in winter? yes. Does a hemi c? no. THey both look badass, but they are so different, i dunno what retard brought it to us that these two could even be compared, other than the freakin size of the 300c.

Jeez ya need WWII movie music when that thing rolls down the street, its a tank, plus it looks so retro.

anyone else find it weird that all 5 of jah's posts are in this topic alone and he just registered this month?!?!?! I mean damn, do you even really actually own an escalade? Cause some of things you are saying are just plain out there, like it not being luxury. Actually, scratch that, have you EVER even sat in an escalade? :confused:

Hey jah get the hell outta here, go back to your ***** chrysler forums.... Your more of a lier and flip flopper then John Kerry and George W. Bush put together. You dont own an escalade, you never have even had the opp to sit in one! You say the escalade has the appeal, but the 300c more?? Rap videos?? Half the escalade owners dont even like rap, it is just a good truck, a luxury truck that is the best. If you like the 300, why dont you have one? Why the hell buy an escalade if you defend and enjoy the retro 300?? With the "wheels turning to the right while you drive" problem with some 300c's, 300 is exactly about what they will be worth in a year! HA~~~~~~~~~

Wow Hetrain you don't even own a Escalade and your talking trash? Like I said before, I don't own a 300C nor am I going be purchasing one. I think "owning" a Escalade I have a god given right to make a opinion, you on the other hand should keep your immature comments to yourself until you buy yourself a Escalade and maybe THEN you can come up on here and make comments.

Are you serious?? UNLIKE YOU I do own an escalade, white 02, YOU DO NOT. You have no oppinion, your not respected, and you just signed up to this forum from the 300 forum a couple days ago. Give me a break, your fake, your a lier, and a bitch. You need to get your facts straight, or stop drinking. :drinker :drinker :drinker :crying: :lies: :lies:

Wow are you for real? I am not respected? Its funny cause I looked at the 300 forum you posted and surprise surprise you posted on the 300 forum that you had a 300C. Explain that? I dont' even own a 300C but you on the other hand own one and diss it? Lies and more lies eh?

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Hey, Im looking at the Omega 22" Spinners for my Black 300c with limo tinted windows... Check out the page below what does everyone think??? Also, I was looking at the Lexani 22's, how do the spinner kits work on non-spinning rims? Do they bolt on? Do they look good?
Please give me feedback..

http://www.car-rims.com/omega_wheels.asp


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Yea i really like those Dub Estims (sorry about the spelling) they look really good... Id like to see a car that had they though before i buy them. I wonder what an all black 300c with the black dub spinners would look like? Its always been my dream to have a car that everyone looks at and is luxurious (the 300c) and have some big spinners on it. Thanks everyone!

jah04 it seems your gona have to prove to us you own a Escalade. Oh, Aparantly you do not seem pleased with it. "to go as far as to call it luxury I don't know", "I don't think the Escalade has the best luxury value at $50,000",


"If you want to compare luxury suv's then compare the Escalade with the Range Rover." excuse me, why didn't you buy one then, oh and the Range Rover starts at like $80,000! The Discovery isn't that luxurios, It is a nice interior but the Escalade is much richer. Shoot the Discovery is aimed at being a excelent off roader not a luxury/highway/cruiser/whatever else like Escalade.

"The Escalade does have appeal don't get me wrong but I think its more hype within the media which has made it into what it is today" well you sure bought into that "hype" then, if you own one :hmm:.

"I do take offence to that because I didn't pay $50,000 for my Escalade" No you paid $49,999. You cant find the current model year Escalade with under 50,000 miles for anyless than $35,000 I bet.

"Its not a image booster nor do I drive around like im hot sh*t and im sitting on top of the world". Then why did you spend however many thousands that you did if you don't think it makes you look good/or feel good in someway.

"The point of me posting was that I thought making comments about people who drive cars like the 300C are poor or can't afford "real" luxury was immature." They could afford a certified used Cadillac, BMW, etc. But most wanted a brand new luxury car and the 300 was the best (new car) luxury for their price. I can't afford a new Cadillac right now but a few years down the road I definately will be able to(and will). But the truth is a used Cadillac is more "real" luxury than a new 300c.

"I wouldn't compare Cadillac to Mercedes,BMW or Audi." Once again why do you own a Cadillac then if you think they are inferior? Oh and you wouldn't compare Cadillac to those others because frankly you don't know how to compare cars(competing markets :confused: confudle :hmm: you), ($30,000 luxury)300c vs ($50,000 luxury)Escalade NO my friend No!

"Around here Escalades' are dime a dozen" I wish I lived in a Ultra Upper class neighborhood. I'm just pathetic mid/upper class where hondas and chevys are our second cars, not Escalades.

You do not seem like someone who owns a 330i and a Escalade. Most people with the money for those cars have a lot of class and more intelegence than you. Or you are the stereotypical anal BMW owner? Why do you even care about the 300c you don't own one, do you :suspect: ?

shame Hetrain, :histeric:

Jah04 at least he wasn't there to just diss a car, maybe he has a friend with one and it was easier to say "I."

Stop taking others lies to hide your own.

Fess up! or prove your not lieing about "owning" an Escalade and that 330i

Hahhaha... jah, u said I posted on the 300 forum that I owned a 300, but nowhere in that post did I say I did!!!! your such a lier, get real. So being that you where around the 300 forum long enough to see that I posted that ( about a month ago) that means that you really did just join this cadillac forum to "battle." You dont have any right to talk, you dont own an escalade, a 300, a bmw, even a ford for that matter. Just dont think you can go search the interenet for pictures of a cadillac and post them here too you lier. I admit at first when i heard about the 300 i was drawn to them, but the cadillac has always been my favorite. Just like political decisions, food, ect I changed my mind when choosing a car, and you really cant make a good choice untell you go and test drive and see in person. IN the end, I chose the escalade, bc after seeing a 300 in person I realized that its a fad, a cheap mans car, a knock off and nothing worth my money. The cadillac is forever, the 300 is for pathetic losers and cry babys like Jah. Jah maybe you should stop searching through all my forum posts in my life and go get a job at mcdonalds; in 5 or 10 years youll be able to afford a escalade you *****. :histeric:

I did say the truth in that post, at first i did have a 300 on the waiting list when it was first ready ( A long long time ago.) After the wait, and coming to my senses and figuring out it was all hype, I got an escalade. example- fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. :tisk:

You posted it a month ago? The original post is August 20th and you replied on August 26th is that a month? I think your full of sh*t if you ask me. Im the one getting flamed but this guy is talking about buying a 300C and then buys a Escalade within weeks, ok I guess im the only one that thinks this guy is bs. And ya I have a Escalade and BMW which is my wifes car, you have a problem with that?

I find it hard to swallow that an Escalade owner would put his own car down. Sell it and buy the 300. Like I said before, keep pics of your Caddy in the 300's dash to prove that blasphemy like "I sold my Escalade for a Chrysler 300" exists. :D