: The Gold Caliper Club



thebigjimsho
07-25-10, 01:31 AM
Who here has calipers that are changing to gold...or already are full piss color? The V1 section had a number of us who took pride in our gold calipers.

Just finished a session at tiny(but still fun) Waterford Hills last week and my calipers are turning bronze...soon to be gold, I hope...

dvandentop
07-25-10, 02:28 AM
how many track days on your car? i did 50-60 laps at local road course with 985 degree rotor temps but no change yet

wait4me
07-25-10, 11:01 AM
It depends on what pads you are using on how quick they changed. With the aftermarket higher grip pads the temps get alot more hot alot more quickly. :)

I have some Nasty custom pads i made for the 05 v and they are 5000% more aggressive than stock pads. They eat 10 rotors per pad set before they get to the rivits. ;)

wfo
07-25-10, 02:59 PM
How about a pic?

thebigjimsho
07-25-10, 10:20 PM
How about a pic?
I'll have to get that pic in the next day or two.

I am running a more aggressive Hawk DTC-30 pad. Throw some Blues or other track pad on it with some slicks and they'll turn gold really quickly...

baabootoo
07-26-10, 12:47 AM
You did clean the pad dust off good, right?

dvandentop
07-26-10, 01:52 AM
how much did you pay for a full setup of the dtc 30 pads?

Silver -V-
07-26-10, 01:26 PM
I have a very nice set of 4 - gold calipers. I was able to get them after a full day of hard runs with the stock pads. The Hawk DTC - 30 pads only marginally have darkened the color. I did notice, that the gold color fades slightly after a few weeks, as soon as you get back on the track with a few hot laps, the color deepens, and turns a pretty deep gold for a few more weeks.

thebigjimsho
07-28-10, 11:40 AM
how much did you pay for a full setup of the dtc 30 pads?
About $400 F+R

IBNR
07-29-10, 03:38 AM
Gosh, it sure would be nice if someone would post a pic of these alleged "gold" calipers....

AZstar
07-29-10, 07:32 AM
That's why I painted mine RED.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/172193-caliper-painting.html

thebigjimsho
07-29-10, 11:30 AM
Gosh, it sure would be nice if someone would post a pic of these alleged "gold" calipers....
Lighting is too dark to get a pic yet. I got home the earliest I had all week last night when I was home at 9:30PM...




But until then, I'll show you my V1's...







http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2241/2287429/4482063/320375166.jpg

IBNR
07-30-10, 12:18 AM
Well. That's actually pretty cool. I assume it's the heat that does this? Changes the color of the factory silver paint?

snzuloz
07-30-10, 01:10 AM
Now you need to paint the rear caliper to match, looks funny with gold and silver...

thebigjimsho
07-30-10, 02:03 PM
Now you need to paint the rear caliper to match, looks funny with gold and silver...
Nope. Tis a badge of honor...

blkCTSv
07-30-10, 03:01 PM
I'll post a picture of my "BrownBos" tonight. My calipers are the inverse of the V1 picture. Golder in the rear and still silver'ish up front. I have over 6 races and another handful of trackdays on the car. I'm currently running Carbotech pads for the track (X10's front and X8's in rear) and Brembo stocks for daily driving. Flushed the system and running Motul because I was boiling the fluids on the tighter tracks.

rjoffe
07-30-10, 03:55 PM
How are you managing gold in the rear? That sounds like a brake bias issue.

blkCTSv
07-30-10, 06:22 PM
How are you managing gold in the rear? That sounds like a brake bias issue.

Good question. I don't know. Is there a way to calibrate the bias?

Caddyscat
07-30-10, 07:56 PM
That means the front ones aren't overheating. Looks like the calipers on your V1 are the same as the rear on the V2. Just take a acetylene torch to your calipers for faster results.

thebigjimsho
07-31-10, 01:36 PM
That means the front ones aren't overheating. Looks like the calipers on your V1 are the same as the rear on the V2. Just take a acetylene torch to your calipers for faster results.

Cheater...

digital1021
07-31-10, 05:10 PM
Lol...

Fubar75207
08-17-10, 07:26 PM
If you could email me my membership information, that would be great.

http://www.dfwautoclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2024&d=1282083388
http://www.dfwautoclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2025&d=1282083388

rjoffe
08-17-10, 10:57 PM
Lighting is too dark to get a pic yet

Chop Chop, it's been over two weeks, come on Jim, get some pics posted :)

Caddyscat
08-18-10, 01:36 AM
Yeah, been waiting to see them! I know you're one of few who actually wrings their V out!

thebigjimsho
08-18-10, 06:01 PM
Sadly, the one time I drove my V the last 2 weeks was last Friday night. And the new garage doesn't have adequate lighting yet. But I'm taking it to Monticello on Saturday so I'll get some then, at the latest...

baabootoo
08-18-10, 07:28 PM
I got back yesterday after tracking, and running hard, for a few days in NE. It was in the 100s at the track, and mine have still never gotten "gold". This is my 3rd time too. Are you sure it isn't brake dust coloring? My laser temp gun showed 800+ for the rotors and 600+ for the calipers up front.

rjoffe
08-18-10, 07:36 PM
Push harder !

Fubar75207
08-18-10, 09:32 PM
My laser temp gun showed 800+ for the rotors and 600+ for the calipers up front.

Mine said "WTF?"

dvandentop
08-18-10, 11:50 PM
yeeep
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq60/dvandentop/hot%20summer%20nights%202010/DSC00702.jpg

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq60/dvandentop/hot%20summer%20nights%202010/DSC00638.jpg

baabootoo
08-19-10, 01:37 AM
Wheeeeeeeeeeew!!!!

OldRoadDawg
08-19-10, 10:10 AM
Wonder what temp these rotors would have read?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skDCazS-cLU

rjoffe
08-19-10, 11:50 AM
Stole this from : http://hearth.com

How to tell what temperature a glowing object (metals) might be:

Doesn’t really matter what the emitter is…stainless steel, cast iron, tungsten in your light bulb, the temps are about the same for a given color. Generally accepted colors/temps are:

C F Color
--- --- ---------
400 752 Red heat, visible in the dark
474 885 Red heat, visible in the twilight
525 975 Red heat, visible in the daylight
581 1077 Red heat, visible in the sunlight
700 1292 Dark red
800 1472 Dull cherry-red
900 1652 Cherry-red
1000 1832 Bright cherry-red
1100 2012 Orange-red

Umrswimr
08-19-10, 12:40 PM
Re: The Gold Caliper Club
How are you managing gold in the rear? That sounds like a brake bias issue.

Competition mode. The computer is basically activiting the rear brakes midcorner which tends to chew through pads pretty fast and increase temps significantly...

rjoffe
08-19-10, 12:48 PM
Active Yaw control eh ?

Fubar75207
08-19-10, 02:29 PM
The first few laps I ran with full stability control on. So the rear calipers over heated and I got the yellow color on the rears first. After that, I turned the traction control to competition mode and the rears rotors stayed about the same as the fronts. I had never tracked a sedan before and wasn't sure how it was going to play out. The car certainly has some roll but it handles very predictably. By the end of the day all nannies were off but the pads were toasted anyway.

thebigjimsho
08-24-10, 02:47 AM
I've run with both full StabiliTrak on and in Competition Mode and have never overheated pads like that. Although, there were Monticello Vs that had full gold calipers front and rear...

Fubar75207
08-24-10, 10:39 AM
I've run with both full StabiliTrak on and in Competition Mode and have never overheated pads like that. Although, there were Monticello Vs that had full gold calipers front and rear...

My V is an automatic so I didn't use the motor as a slowing mechanism as much as I would have in a standard. However a seasoned racer would likely be more conscious of brake temps. As a side note, when I changed my brake pads, I noticed that all of my front piston seals were completely baked.

OldRoadDawg
08-24-10, 10:44 AM
I've run with both full StabiliTrak on and in Competition Mode and have never overheated pads like that. Although, there were Monticello Vs that had full gold calipers front and rear...
I noticed that also on some of the coupes and was going to take some photos, except the rain was coming down in buckets. :annoyed: