gothicaleigh
08-30-04, 08:52 PM
No one can deny that America has been making a comeback in recent years and the manufacturers seem to be locked in another horsepower arms race.
So how do these modern muscle cars stack up?
According to Road&Track the current performance pecking order is as follows:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
405hp
0-60: 4.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.7 @ 115.2 mph
Cadillac CTS-V
400hp
0-60: 5.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.4 @ 109.0 mph
Chevrolet Corvette
350hp
0-60: 4.9 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.4 @ 107.5 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
390hp
0-60: 5.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.4 @ 107.0 mph
Pontiac GTO
350hp
0-60: 5.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.9 @ 103.6 mph
Chrysler 300C
340hp
0-60: 5.6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 101.1 mph
Cadillac XLR
320hp
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 101.9 mph
Many of these are getting upgrades in the near future and I will update this thread as they are released, but as of today this is how they stack up in the published times.
gothicaleigh
08-30-04, 09:03 PM
You may notice that I excluded two other high-profile American cars. One was because it did not use the staple 'american V-8' and the other because it is twice the price of anything else on the list. At another time I will do an American SuperCar comparison (when the XLR-V comes out and will probably include the Mallett CTS-V):
Dodge Viper SRT-10
500 hp
0-60: 4.1 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.2 @ 119.6 mph
Ford GT
500 hp
0-60: 3.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.2 @ 121.6 mph
gothicaleigh
08-30-04, 09:24 PM
Of course, today's muscle car isn't all about Go (but that is still the entry consideration). Today's cars are also about how they handle.
Here is how they stack up in this area:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
60-0 Braking: 107 ft.
SkidPad: 0.94g
Slalom: 68.5 mph
Cadillac CTS-V
60-0 Braking: 115 ft.
SkidPad: 0.87g
Slalom: 66.0 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
60-0 Braking: 121 ft.
SkidPad: 0.88g
Slalom: 65.6 mph
Cadillac XLR
60-0 Braking: 125 ft.
SkidPad: 0.87g
Slalom: 64.9 mph
Chevrolet Corvette
60-0 Braking: 134 ft.
SkidPad: 0.89g
Slalom: 62.4 mph
Pontiac GTO
60-0 Braking: 121 ft.
SkidPad: 0.84g
Slalom: 63.0 mph
Chrysler 300C
60-0 Braking: 126 ft.
SkidPad: 0.79g
Slalom: 62.4 mph
There are some surprises in this one. I will post Motor Trend's numbers next to see if a different reviewer gets the same results...
gothicaleigh
08-30-04, 09:46 PM
Motor Trend's engine performance results:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
405hp
0-60: 4.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.4 @ 117.0 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
390hp
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.0 @ 110.7 mph
Cadillac CTS-V
400hp
0-60: 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105.3 mph
Pontiac GTO
350hp
0-60: 5.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.6 @ 104.8 mph
Chrysler 300C
340hp
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.3 @ 98.6 mph
Cadillac XLR
320hp
0-60: 6.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.2 @ 101.4 mph
You may notice I dropped one car:
Chevrolet Corvette
350hp
There Were No Test Results For This Car Within The Last Year By MT
Almost exactly the same as the results from R&T, so they seem to verify those results... in fact, other than the CTS-V and SVT Cobra swapping places, there was no change in the standings...
Motor Trend's handling numbers (no SkidPad given; not a real big loss though as it is more a test of the rubber grip than the suspension dynamics):
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
60-0 Braking: 105 ft.
Slalom: 70.2 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
60-0 Braking: 116 ft.
Slalom: 65.4 mph
Cadillac CTS-V
60-0 Braking: 121 ft. (suspiciously, their CTS V6 also does this; typo?)
Slalom: 65.0 mph
Cadillac XLR
60-0 Braking: 114 ft.
Slalom: 64.0 mph
Pontiac GTO
60-0 Braking: 120 ft.
Slalom: 63.5 mph
Chrysler 300C
60-0 Braking: 122 ft.
Slalom: 63.2 mph
davesdeville
08-31-04, 12:37 AM
I like the fact that half of those cars are luxury cars.. Also keep an eye out for Chryslers 300C SRT-8, 425hp. I don't like the fact that all this horsepower is going to make it cost more to have my car faster than them.
gothicaleigh
01-27-05, 01:09 PM
As the current debate on the forum seems to be CTS-V vs. SRT-8 vs. GTO vs. anything else with 400+hp... I figured it was time to update my muscle car pecking order list. In less than 6 months there have been many additions to the list:
Numbers from Feb 05 Motor Trend in order of performance:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2004 C5)
405hp
0-60: 4.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.4 @ 117 mph
Chevrolet Corvette (2005 Z51 C6)
400hp
0-60: 4.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 12.6 @ 113.2 mph
Cadillac CTS-V (2005 w/o factory performance add-ons)
400hp
0-60: 4.7 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.1 @ 109.8 mph
Chrysler 300C SRT8 (2005)
425hp
0-60: 4.9
1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 108.1
Pontiac GTO (2005 LS2)
400hp
0-60: 5.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.3 @ 107 mph
Ford Mustang GT (2005)
300hp
0-60: 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 103.6 mph
Cadillac XLR (2004)
320hp
0-60: 6.0 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.2 @ 101.4 mph
Cadillac STS (2005 w/ performance handling package)
320hp
0-60: 6.0
1/4 mile: 14.2 @ 97.5
Dodge Magnum RT (2005)
340hp
0-60: 6.2
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 98.2
Chrysler 300C (2005)
340hp
0-60: 6.2 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5 @ 97.5 mph
"Muscle car" of course is defined by go, but honestly anyone can drop a monster engine in a car and make it fast. What truly separates modern cars are their handling characteristics. The reason I chose Motor Trend for the comparison is that they have a new Figure Eight test that tests all the driving dynamics (acceleration, cornering, braking).
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2004 C5)
60-0 Braking: 107ft.
Slalom: 70.2mph
Figure Eight: NA
Average Figure Eight g: NA
Chevrolet Corvette (2005 Z51 C6)
60-0 Braking: 113ft.
Slalom: 68.9mph
Figure Eight: 25.2
Average Figure Eight g: 0.76
Cadillac CTS-V (2005 w/o factory performance add-ons)
60-0 Braking: 111ft.
Slalom: 66.8mph
Figure Eight: 25.6
Average Figure Eight g: 0.72
Chrysler 300C SRT8 (2005)
60-0 Braking: 113ft.
Slalom: 67.3mph
Figure Eight: 26.3
Average Figure Eight g: 0.70
Pontiac GTO (2005 LS2)
60-0 Braking: 121ft.
Slalom: 63.6mph
Figure Eight: 26.1
Average Figure Eight g: 0.68
Ford Mustang GT (2005)
60-0 Braking: 125ft.
Slalom: 65.4mph
Figure Eight: 26.4
Average Figure Eight g: 0.69
Cadillac STS (2005 w/ performance handling package)
60-0 Braking: 113ft.
Slalom: 64.4mph
Figure Eight: 26.7
Average Figure Eight g: 0.66
Cadillac XLR (2004)
60-0 Braking: 114ft.
Slalom: 64.0mph
Figure Eight: 27.1
Average Figure Eight g: 0.66
Dodge Magnum RT (2005)
60-0 Braking: 129ft.
Slalom: 61.2mph
Figure Eight: 26.9
Average Figure Eight g: 0.65
Chrysler 300C (2005)
60-0 Braking: 133ft.
Slalom: 61.1mph
Figure Eight: 27.8
Average Figure Eight g: 0.62
The list will update again in about another 6 months to include:
Cadillac STS-V (440hp SuperCharged Northstar)
Cadillac XLR-V (440hp SuperCharged Northstar)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (500hp LS7)
Dodge Charger (300 and 425hp Hemi's)
BeelzeBob
01-27-05, 01:24 PM
Thank you. I love reading stuff like this. :)
gothicaleigh
01-31-05, 11:11 AM
One more addition to the "Coming Soon" list:
The Chrysler Firepower! (the exclamation mark is part of the name), if put into production, will be the first Chrysler I have ever really desired. The SRT-8's 6.1L 425hp Hemi V8 in a 2 door coupe whose sheetmetal looks to be an American Aston Martin? Sign me up. This thing is just beautiful. :)
Nice thread. I think we're also getting more efficient cars. For vehicles with all that power most of the cars listed estimate over 20 mpg highway. Not bad IMO. :)
You should throw some stats in for cars like the Chevy Aveo and Daihatsu Charade just for contrast. :)
airbalancer
02-01-05, 07:53 AM
Gothicaliegh where have you been!
You always bring interest things to this forum
pimpin88
02-02-05, 11:21 AM
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
500 hp!!
manufacturers performance ratings
0-60: 3.8 s
1/4 mile: 11.7s @ 127mph
and still has an estimated 16mpg city, 22mpg highway
est. from car and driver